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[MKW TAS] Moo Moo Meadows Flap (Ultra) - 9.207 

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This is a tool-assisted speedrun. This time will not count on any real-time rankings. Done on Dolphin 5.0 with savestates, slowdown, frame advance, TAS code, and Info Display (created by SwareJonge). Input Display Overlay created by WhatIsLoaf.
Disclaimer: This run takes advantage of the analog inputs of the Wii Wheel. In order for this run to be performed in real-time in a playback, pause buffering would potentially need to be used.
TAS Flap BKT Cut: -8.521
Previous BKT: • [MKW TAS] New Ultra Sh... (by Ejay)
A little over a week ago, Ejay proved the newest and most elusive ultra shortcut in the game, the Moo Moo Meadows ultra, to be possible. If you haven't already, go give him some love for his discovery. He really deserves it :). But anyway, before the ultra shortcut was formally released, I had been given some insider info that got me theorizing as to how the time could be brought down from the low 17 Ejay got in his demonstration. This run is the result of that theorization.
Before we begin, let's make something clear: yes, this run is an official best known time. For whatever reason a lot of people seem to forget that Flaps are considered official categories, and so whenever an ultra with a long setup shows up, they immediately think it doesn't save time. This track is by far the most extreme example that we currently have in the game (though it may not last too long). The idea for this lap is to perform the shroomless out of bounds entry the same way Ejay did, but after getting out of bounds, we drive an entire lap without going back in bounds. This is where 95% of the time for this strat execution comes from since we can't use any boosts while on the heavy offroad. However, because we don't care about the lap 1 time, how long we spend isn't really important.
After driving out of bounds for about 5 minutes, the actual flap starts. The main difference from the original discovery of the ultra, as you can probably tell, is that we perform the outside drift clip (or ODC) before the flap begins. This section is a lot harder than it looks since the wall becomes double sided too early for us to clip using the same method Ejay used. If we used that method, we'd never enter the finish line and the lap wouldn't begin. To circumvent this, I had to figure out some weird shroomless momentum nonsense that would allow me to initiate the shroom while already having momentum directed towards the wall. The space we have to get the clip without bonking early, missing the wall, or being respawned is quite small, so I was quite surprised that this ended up working at all. Upon clipping, we steer the vehicle midair to start the lap as late as possible then perform an OOB bounce to land on the OOB seam. Notably, we land on the seam far enough forward that we don't need to back up to get enough room to perform the final part of the ultra. We can simply turn around and shroom as soon as we turn far enough to the left. The final bit utilizes a technique that we've coined the seam swing. By landing on the OOB seam as low as we can while performing a right drift, we can land back on the seam, start a drift to the right (which sends us to the left due to outside drift bike physics), and then immediately fall off the seam using precise control stick movements. The end result is a redirection of our speed while underneath the floor. If done properly, we are able to barely reach the final key checkpoint without having to delay our acceleration with a hop prior to the seam swing. We respawn right before the finish line and do a small wiggle to shave one final millisecond off the run, nearly cutting the flap time for this ultra in half.
Special thanks to Ejay for telling me about the ultra being confirmed early as well as for helping me understand what I was doing wrong when attempting the shroomless clip! Thanks for all the help you've been to me, and congrats again on discovering this behemoth of an ultra!
Music: Mt. Chill - Thegur90
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Комментарии : 94   
@Kierio04
@Kierio04 Год назад
Ok I wanted to do a real comment but I’ve noticed a trend in what people have been saying so I just need to clear things up. - MMM has had an ultra since last week: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A_38TZSWDDk.html - The ultra was first performed by Ejay B, and was uploaded on his channel (Jellopuff did not discover the ultra) - The ultra is faster for 3lap by several seconds, this video shows two flap-exclusive strategies which add up to 8 seconds of timesave over the original demonstration - The “drive a lap OOB” setup used in this video was known but not used in the original demonstration to specifically not create this confusion - Jellopuff did actually find the “clip facing the other way” strategy himself. You can give him the credit he deserves for that
@ttt3117
@ttt3117 Год назад
I can’t believe there’s still ultras being discovered 15 years later
@Kierio04
@Kierio04 Год назад
Same! But this isn’t the discovery of the ultra
@timberlin4075
@timberlin4075 Год назад
shoutouts to the nintendo employee who hid this one really well
@Yes-lm1lc
@Yes-lm1lc Год назад
Feels nice to see gd pic lol Nice ship, please watch Ejay B's video dude
@ttt3117
@ttt3117 Год назад
@@timberlin4075 bro fr
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
Honestly the cow strat is the best part of the run
@cheesegloriouscheese
@cheesegloriouscheese Год назад
fr
@Kierio04
@Kierio04 Год назад
Wall
@CowMaam
@CowMaam Год назад
obviously
@timberlin4075
@timberlin4075 Год назад
holy cow
@saunaboi4910
@saunaboi4910 Год назад
Carried the run
@john04260
@john04260 Год назад
I still can’t believe of all tracks Moo Moo Meadows has an ultra shortcut
@dijek
@dijek Год назад
Massive finds! Would have never thought 150cc to be possible without another method, but here it is. Congrats to everybody involved.
@lowercaseletters_
@lowercaseletters_ Год назад
This ultra shortcut is incredible and that timecut is insane. I love the input viewer and the checkpoint and key checkpoint information and graphics.
@Ultra_Pear
@Ultra_Pear Год назад
truly one of the bikes in the game
@117james
@117james Год назад
Let’s go jellopuff, you never cease to amaze me
@Yes-lm1lc
@Yes-lm1lc Год назад
Ejay B
@StepBaum
@StepBaum Год назад
Appreciate the in detail explanation! Super cool that you outperformed the discovery we got last week
@ReservedCar
@ReservedCar Год назад
Had to do a double take at my calendar to make sure it wasn't April 1st, moo moo fr got an ultra now
@bunstie5208
@bunstie5208 Год назад
This gonna go crazy in worldwides 🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️☝️
@danielchillis7878
@danielchillis7878 Год назад
Excited to see the mmm glitch and superhopping strats.
@tas_clem
@tas_clem Год назад
that is honestly insane
@JoniKauf
@JoniKauf Год назад
Very nice! 🍫
@PyraminxstarsHD
@PyraminxstarsHD Год назад
Absolute madlad
@dankmemewannabe7692
@dankmemewannabe7692 Год назад
Weird but True! Did you know that cows have best friends?
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
Yes! Best friend of the cows is the Mario Kart Wii TAS Competition :)
@tacticalslyme
@tacticalslyme Год назад
Cowzers
@TRC_aka_TheRightCheek
@TRC_aka_TheRightCheek Год назад
This happened to me on my way to work this morning.
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
Doubt. Not enough dust in the air.
@skoochoo5851
@skoochoo5851 Год назад
This shit happens every time I drive through Kansas
@EjayB
@EjayB Год назад
@@skoochoo5851 Is this a Dust in the Wind reference?
@spriterocks03
@spriterocks03 3 месяца назад
While this TAS was incredible. The new Bkt was even more marvellous
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS 3 месяца назад
Um...ok😅
@Loki_SR
@Loki_SR Год назад
Amazing run Jello!
@maldthekidd
@maldthekidd Год назад
it’s still hard to believe this is real LOL nice work!
@adcgdsin9320
@adcgdsin9320 Год назад
Bruh what!!? There's an ultra on Moo Moo Meadows!!??
@glitchedblood
@glitchedblood Год назад
holy shit moo moo now has an ultra?
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
It does! Ejay discovered it! Go check it out on his channel and give him some love :)
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 Год назад
its also 3 lap but u dont go ll the way adound the out of bounds which is slower for flap
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
@@vincenzofranchelli2201 *slower for 3lap. Going all the way around the track OOB is faster for flap.
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 Год назад
@@Jellopuff_TAS ye thats what I meant
@vincenzofranchelli2201
@vincenzofranchelli2201 Год назад
@@Jellopuff_TAS i think i wastryna say not going all the way around is slowerfor flap but it was worded poorly
@spacewhalegaming4161
@spacewhalegaming4161 Год назад
gaberboo cow strat
@josef01880
@josef01880 Год назад
Phantom underrated
@GaelLazerYT
@GaelLazerYT Год назад
clean
@saunaboi4910
@saunaboi4910 Год назад
Awesome!
@olb3587
@olb3587 Год назад
Okay but if moo moo meadows can be broken then any track can. I always thought we could possibly get 31/32 ultra shortcuts but never this one, congrats
@sustaining
@sustaining Год назад
ok this is crazy
@jammies701
@jammies701 Год назад
nice run
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Год назад
Absolutely.
@janemcelroy6044
@janemcelroy6044 Год назад
Yo my man be speedrunnin' with cows
@TheAmazingRaptor
@TheAmazingRaptor Год назад
Revolution 2.0
@omarmkwii
@omarmkwii Год назад
Amazing run!
@KaiMK
@KaiMK Год назад
COW STRAT
@toadetteserverenglish
@toadetteserverenglish Год назад
Bruh a new one? We shredding this game
@luis.m3rcad049
@luis.m3rcad049 Год назад
w phantom
@Vuxzlo
@Vuxzlo Год назад
Wow nice tas
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Год назад
Absolutely.
@RADish-official
@RADish-official Год назад
I wonder if this is viable with the Twinkle Star.
@jameskelly-smith1279
@jameskelly-smith1279 Год назад
Surprised MC3 ain't got anything, MC2 is broken in 7.
@StillSpacey
@StillSpacey Год назад
did you just give moo moo meadows an ultra-
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
No I didn't. Ejay found the ultra. Please read the description. I put it there specifically so that this confusion won't happen.
@Merlinistisch
@Merlinistisch Год назад
Does this ultra have potential for 3lap?
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
I believe so, yes
@Sonico98
@Sonico98 Год назад
Looks like you completely ignored the "driving out of bounds for more than 4 minutes" part of the video
@EjayB
@EjayB Год назад
@@Sonico98 You don't have to do a full lap for a 3lap run, you can just hit the banner and reverse into the spot you need to shroom at. Sure, the ultra shortcut lap will be slower than the one in this video, but we're not concerned about individual lap times in the context of 3lap
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
@@Sonico98 Yeah that bit is only for flap, but you can still get a 3lap viable lap time without it!
@louiswolfe5012
@louiswolfe5012 Год назад
Ok On a serious note HOW BROKEN IS MARIO KART WII!? WHEN WE THINK THERE'S ALMOST NOTHING LEFT TO BE BROKEN HOW MUCH MORE BROKEN CAN YOU GET MARIO KART WII!?
@hyperspacestorm
@hyperspacestorm Год назад
Didn't think it was as simple as a wallclip
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
It's not.
@monion05
@monion05 Год назад
💀
@hyperspacestorm
@hyperspacestorm Год назад
What is it then? Wall bounce?
@hyperspacestorm
@hyperspacestorm Год назад
I mean yeah there's that extra stuff too
@monion05
@monion05 Год назад
@@hyperspacestorm a very high shroomless parallel wallclip (probably not rta viable) a crazy outside drifting bike wall clip (not rta viable) out of bounds bounce into landing on an out of bounds seam that you cant even see, into a crazy seam swing to hit the checkpoint (100% absolutely not rta viable)
@montyy3130
@montyy3130 Год назад
MOO MOO MEADOWS GLITCH!1
@idontcheckmynotifications
@idontcheckmynotifications Год назад
WHAT
@idontcheckmynotifications
@idontcheckmynotifications Год назад
Seriously I JUST watched a history of ultras vid, ive been a scene follower/casual player since the game came out but WOW
@Rukir
@Rukir Год назад
moo moo meadows glitch
@mreevee7785
@mreevee7785 Год назад
Rta viable?
@Ultra_Pear
@Ultra_Pear Год назад
yes definitely and you should grind it
@mreevee7785
@mreevee7785 Год назад
@@Ultra_Pear im not talking about the 5 minute seam driving i mean the cut itself
@Ultra_Pear
@Ultra_Pear Год назад
yes definitely and you should grind it
@mreevee7785
@mreevee7785 Год назад
@Ultra_Pear i don't see the need to be so sarcastic about it, i dont really see what would be so obviously impossible for a human to do here other than some of the oob movement being pretty precise. Im also not looking to grind any ultra im just interested in whats possible within the game.
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
This is currently the second hardest ultra to TAS in the game given no prior experience in TASing, and as far as RTA goes it's THE hardest physically possible ultra shortcut. Let me go over why. First, the shroomless wallclip out of bounds. This is the most deceptively difficult part of the entire run. It took me over a day of TASing just that part before I finally got it. It requires either an insanely precise wheelie clip or an equally precise drop-wheelie delay clip, and when I say precise, I don't just mean in terms of where you hit the wall. I also mean in terms of how long you're in the air when you hit the wall, how high the pitch of your bike is when hitting the wall, and how fast you're moving when entering the air. You have to clip the wall on exactly the 5th frame of airtime with no less than 80 speed and with a pitch no less than 45.1 all at the same time. It is ludicrously difficult to get all of these things to happen at once, and even if you get them all to line up and get a high enough clip, you have to be just the right distance away from the finish line or else you'll either bonk on the pole before or after you reach the apex of your clip. Let's say you pull that off though. By some miracle you pull of this absurdly precise clip. You now have to drive forward and turn around without accidentally hitting the killplane that has no visual indicator, then shroom and perform a fast double spindrift without popping back in bounds or hitting the killplane and perform a wheelie upon landing. You THEN need to pray that you hit the double sided wall (which once again has no visual indicator) after being airborne (which you can't really control) for no fewer than 5 frames. After that, you have to angle down and perform a frame perfect OOB hop that isn't always consistent and land precisely on the OOB seam which can respawn you if you get even slightly too far to the left. If you land from the wallclip too far forward, the OOB hop will send you too far and you'll miss the seam, and if you land too far from the seam, the OOB hop won't get you far enough. Then finally you have to somehow perform a perfect one shroom seam swing without being too far to the left or right and then barely enter the final key checkpoint region to get the lap to count. Calling this ultra pretty precise is a massive understatement as far as RTA viability is concerned. Technically it's not physically impossible, but it'd be roughly on-par in difficulty to performing the rBC ultra 3 times in a row, and you're not even guaranteed to save time with it because you have to drive two shroomless laps with the Phantom compared to the one shroom laps of the Flame Runner WR. This is not being done humanly.
@captainobvioustas
@captainobvioustas Год назад
slower
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
bruh show me a faster lap time on this track
@monion05
@monion05 Год назад
Thank you captain obvious
@Jellopuff_TAS
@Jellopuff_TAS Год назад
@@monion05 It's not even obvious tho it's just wrong
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