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Make Your Mark has one MAJOR problem in that they are teaching... selfishness? Yes, MLP G5 is going there. We Analyze the My Little Pony character Posey and her "character arc".
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My Little Pony G5 Make Your Mark shows a new character Posey and her character arc is an interesting topic.

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@krmiistudios2479
@krmiistudios2479 2 года назад
G1: Yellow pony with pink mane, Friendly. G3: yellow pony with Pink mane, friendly. G4: Yellow Pony with Pink Mane, friendly, Inoccene, and Cute, as well as a RU-vid legend. G5: Yellow pony with pink mane, Grumpy, Stubborn.
@regigigaslover6541
@regigigaslover6541 2 года назад
Another thing is earth ponies DO have magic, it's literally stated in G4. Their magic isn't as obvious or grand as the unicorns and pegasai, but they 100% have magic of some kind. Considering all the farmers we saw in G4 were earth ponies, it's likely they have a specific connection with nature. Not to mention their magic probably makes them physically stronger, considering what we saw from Maud obliterating that boulder in that one episode. I like how subdued earth ponie magic was in comparison to the other 2 races, and I feel like giving them these unicorn-like powers was unnecessary and kinda ruins prestablised lore. I do like the idea of a earth pony being upset with their supposed lack of magic, but just giving them all this new type was stupid, for the reasons you explained in the video
@jamesk8654
@jamesk8654 2 года назад
They have skills not magic. Read my post
@amandaslough125
@amandaslough125 2 года назад
Yea, Earth ponies were essentially the druids of the world. Being a bit more clear in that is good, but the flashiness removes the grounded feeling
@jamesk8654
@jamesk8654 2 года назад
@@amandaslough125 its because the show had to give them something instead of just manual labour. You need to see applebuck season to see how meaningless their strength was. Watch the hearts warming tale to see how they were treated. They were the plebs, even their leader was a moron. Sunny doomed their entire race to servitude again. Sprout had the right idea, at least they were equal. The other two just couldn't handle not being special
@adrianen4644
@adrianen4644 2 года назад
@@jamesk8654 kinda agree? Sprout did have a point though he is definitely going about it the wrong way. The argument of earth ponies having magic through being stronger is kinda out the window now, (look at Izzy able to drill through a tree in seconds)
@aviko9560
@aviko9560 2 года назад
@@adrianen4644 Izzy can do anything, same as pinkie, though it made more sence since she was an earth pony. And Izzy was just a pony with a horn at that point.
@10thDoctorWhoovez
@10thDoctorWhoovez 2 года назад
The funniest thing is that Tell Your Tale arguably had "better” character arc, despite only being 5 minutes.
@blueotter5954
@blueotter5954 2 года назад
I loved Hitch's story when trying to give the others a tour!
@AlicornHana
@AlicornHana 2 года назад
Well this is why I like the "tell your tale" series better
@vanoskuro-ponyform1714
@vanoskuro-ponyform1714 2 года назад
@@AlicornHana That and the 2d animation flows a little better.
@ExploreTheWorldWithBri
@ExploreTheWorldWithBri 2 года назад
Yeah, Tell Your Tale is WAAAY better.
@LanguagesandCreativity
@LanguagesandCreativity 2 года назад
Tell Your Tale is honestly better
@Warrior-Of-Virtue
@Warrior-Of-Virtue 2 года назад
Here's how I would have done it. Make it so that having magic seems to be more trouble than it's worth. Every Unicorn has suddenly been handed the rough equivalent of a reality breaker, the Pegasi have the equivalent of jet packs, and the Earth Ponies have been granted the strength of Hercules but none of them have the slightest idea how to use their new powers. So you have Unicorns whose magic is constantly going haywire, Pegasi constantly crashing into everything (Derpy would be proud), and Earth Ponies breaking everything they touch. So when Posey says that they were better off without magic, she has a ton of ponies from all three tribes behind her with Sunny and the gang trying to prove that magic can do more good than bad.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
I think your idea would have worked phenomenally! I see a lot more potential with this idea than the story we got.
@anobody4606
@anobody4606 2 года назад
Isn't Posey the pony Lauren Faust based Fluttershy on? They really did her dirty in this special, lol.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
Yes
@JCBro-yg8vd
@JCBro-yg8vd 2 года назад
The problem with Posey is that "Tell Your Tale" episodes that are supposed to be set after the "Make Your Mark" special end up proving her right, particularly in regards to Izzy and Pipp.
@ixiahj
@ixiahj 2 года назад
Its missing a character with an arc because the only character with an arc is missing. That's Sprout. Oddly enough, its why the story of the game was better because he actually had a character in the game.
@SmokeTheHorsehog
@SmokeTheHorsehog 2 года назад
I'd think that kind of arc for Posey would only work if it were the central focus of the special, along with Zipp investigating the glitching crystals, instead of just being an overarching arc amongst the numerous sideplots.
@Spritefightman
@Spritefightman 2 года назад
Another complaint I have with this special is how they say that earth pony’s have never had magic. Even though they did in G4! They needed magic to use super strength, strength to throw bolders 3x bigger than them over a hill. I agree with your point
@sproutglob7126
@sproutglob7126 2 года назад
While it is a Kid's Show, it's not taking the time to actually teach kids proper morals. All this episode actually taught anyone is that if you feel "Left Out" you can just complain and whine and you'll eventually get it! I felt that Posey should have been a continuing villain, even if she got Magic. If anything I expected her to keep to her own values and continue trying to get rid of Pegasi and Unicorn magic as it's technically the more dangerous while glorifying Earth Pony Magic.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 2 года назад
She wasn't demanding that unicorns and pegasi be kicked out of town, or even excluded from the festival. She just wanted magic to be restricted.
@sproutglob7126
@sproutglob7126 2 года назад
@@82dorrin Didn't say she wanted rid of the other tribes, just their magic.
@yondaime500
@yondaime500 2 года назад
I think Posey didn't decide to apologize just because she got her magic. She just realized that she was being too rude and jealous and causing problems to other ponies who didn't mean any harm (although some of her complaints were valid to be honest). Likewise, Sunny apologizes for being so obsessed with magic that she denied the possibility of anything going wrong with it, and dismissed everyone else's concerns about it until things got out of control, which looks bad for her because she was effectively chosen to be the guardian of magic (or whatever her alicorn status is supposed to mean). That's how I interpreted it anyway, but the special is so busy setting up the earth pony magic thing and a million other things for the series, that the message it's trying to convey gets lost in the mix.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 2 года назад
Posey was being obnoxious, but her concerns about magic were NOT totally unfounded.
@vinnie-chan
@vinnie-chan Год назад
Every person could've been better if they had what they want, so she became. You can't just say she admited herself being wrong not because of the magic thing, because you made no argument why you think that way.
@yondaime500
@yondaime500 Год назад
@Vivec's Vassals Posey doesn't have Fluttershy's color scheme. Fluttershy has Posey's color scheme. Posey has been around since the 80s, and Fluttershy was based on her. Fluttershy's mom doesn't have a name, she's just known as Mrs Shy.
@trexadvent4726
@trexadvent4726 Год назад
What would happen if Posey was similar to Sprout? Would it be awesome if we saw those two as a couple in the MLP G5 universe?
@CineFunStudios
@CineFunStudios Год назад
I actually think Posey is supposed to be them attacking OUR BACKLASH to G5
@Maieveryday2
@Maieveryday2 2 года назад
It's really disappointing how bad the special was, people keep saying "well it's for kids" but really, if that was an excuse then why do actual good kids shows do so well with kid and adult fans. I had to stop watching the special halfway through because I was cringing really hard. I hope that the series will be more consistent in its quality, they still have plenty of potential, like,l seriously I was Vibing with Zipp. If they could really solidify the characters then that would be great. Because Hitch was practically a different pony altogether.
@Maieveryday2
@Maieveryday2 2 года назад
@@NikoZguri yeah I think this special was hard-core rushed because it's really quality inconsistent, hopefully that will be solved by the budget of a full series.
@TeamFriendship8600
@TeamFriendship8600 2 года назад
Plus this is supposed to be a follow-up to G4, a show that catered to kids and adults.
@Hannah_Grae_FanAccount
@Hannah_Grae_FanAccount 2 года назад
@@NikoZguri I think it gets more hate bc of how it’s set after the events of G4 and everyone basically just died and not all that much bc of the inconsistency like people grew up with G4 it’s a huge part of some people’s childhood and if it’s a kids show why make it so dark??? Like you killed ponies and wth happened to the rest of Equestria how is that not dark…
@Heavilune
@Heavilune 2 года назад
@@NikoZguri No the reason people are "writing it off" is bc of its iconsistancies, because if your gonna make a follow up to g4 at least have connecton to the lore. sorry im not trying to be rude.
@uget-uget
@uget-uget 2 года назад
yeah i thougtth the speacial looks good untill heard this video this is i dont like g5 in the first place new is always better
@krealyesitisbeta5642
@krealyesitisbeta5642 2 года назад
MLP failing to teach a lesson to the point where entire videos can be made to explain why their execution is horrendous? Aw, *I missed this.*
@matthewlo55
@matthewlo55 2 года назад
Izzy is a different character in Tell Your Tales and Make Your Mark. She seems like Pinke Pie in Tell Your Tales and out of control!
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792 2 года назад
I kinda like it
@IllusionMaster17
@IllusionMaster17 2 года назад
I'm still honestly pissed off about Posey. Since she was shown in the special, she was the most annoying pushout character, as her character was only to serve as antagonist with no enough solid reason to act against the problem. And I feel like the story had more magic lore exploration than character development. And yes, that Posey only apologized after learning that earth ponies have magic was a let down. Even if she apologizes first, and then they got magic, the message would have been received a little bit better. The special had its good things too, but I feel the story overall was quite dissapointing that overshadows those things.
@pfp-underwater
@pfp-underwater Год назад
Yeah her reason to dislike magic was dumb
@sage.81
@sage.81 9 месяцев назад
Misty has an arc in Make Your Mark. She goes from trying to steal Steal Sparky to help Opaline just to get a cutie mark to realizing Sunny, Hitch, Izzy, Zipp, and Pipp are her friends and that a cutie mark isn't that important.
@darkyboode3239
@darkyboode3239 2 года назад
The character arc for Posey you came up with is better written and incorporated, you deserve to be a writer of Hasbro.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
Thanks! Part of me would want to snatch that job up in an instant, the other part of me would be like: "Oh- yeah, that means I have to actually *work* with Hasbro... Not sure how fun that would be." XD
@Johnny_Three-hats
@Johnny_Three-hats 2 года назад
I really did entirely expect some kind of plot point regarding cutie marks, given the special's name. You know, Make Your Mark, it's about leaving your impression on the world, but also a pun about cutie marks being involved somehow. Especially seeing as in Tell Your Tale, a focal point is pretty often the cutie marks glowing when harmony is achieved, or so it seems. Hoping that there's something in the show about that ultimately, but I guess we'll see. I don't necessarily need everything explained, but I would like the ponies to at least realize, hey, our butts are glowing, that's kinda unusual, maybe that means something.
@johnsmith5255
@johnsmith5255 2 года назад
I agree about the lack of story on this one. Having several subplots tend to delude the opportunity to have some real character arcing, since your too busy zooming around to catch your breath. Also, the creators seemed to have a bad habit of teaching anything in a forced, generic, over-the-top manner, instead of making it feel natural. The usual 'racism is bad' push is a good example of this. I think I remember Firebrand mentioning this while covering the pilot movie, and the issue seems to continue with this special. Also, selfishness isn't the only thing that they accidently promoted. In this special, a possible subliminal hint from the pilot movie carries over and becomes even more obvious. It seems that Zipp is most likely the official heir to the throne (aka: the older one of the sisters and the one who will be wearing mama's crown later). However, she keeps skirting her lessons that she will need for such duties later in life. If she is to be an effective, prepared and reliable leader, she will first need to know what she is doing. For a queen, that would probably require several years of schooling. On top of this, any villains seeking to usurp the throne will find an ill-prepared ruler to be an easy target. To make things worse, Queen Haven lets Zipp have her way in the end. In this situation, not only is selfishness taught, but also over-leniency in child raising and avoiding responsibility.
@beccacroce7380
@beccacroce7380 2 года назад
Seeing what Posey puts up with in Tell Your Tale, her irritation to magic makes sense.
@jedgalang9808
@jedgalang9808 2 года назад
if i would write the story i would make posey realise that land ponys does have magic just a little it would be like being jelouse of something u didnt know u have
@mariahs6
@mariahs6 2 года назад
Oh my goodness, your idea for Posey’s arc is so much better than what we ended up getting! While I did enjoy Make Your Mark, I felt it was trying to spread its focus to way too many characters and ended up being paper thin on that front. If it just limited itself to a few characters to focus on, like Zipp investing the glitch, Hitch studying the dragon egg, and Posey learning more about Earth Pony magic, it would be more balanced!
@NewLeafPony
@NewLeafPony 2 года назад
forgetting zipss character arc, to me the movie was all about her standing up, to her mom, her friends and the others listening to her. Now where im on the same page is hitch in particular. You said it yourself, in the movie he grew to see unicorns and pegasi as just...ponies. But in Make your Mark he ran from his duties more then anything, seems almost like a completley different character to me. The Resolution at the end also is very sketchy to me, save two ponies and resolve the whole magic stability ordeal? seems a lot like equestria girls 1 level of writing. My biggest point to make on make your mark is, it doesnt feel like sunny is the mane/leading character but that falls to zipp
@WindStriker
@WindStriker 2 года назад
I noticed that but I still have hope for the make your mark series. Especially since it'll be far more story based.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
Let's hope they improve!
@nathanmeersman9723
@nathanmeersman9723 2 года назад
@@Star_StrikeI think you missed the real lesson basically. :/
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
@@nathanmeersman9723 Was there a lesson to the story?
@The_Roach_Hiding_In_Your_Room
@The_Roach_Hiding_In_Your_Room 2 года назад
They could have had some arc where posey learns to get over herself and frees the other ponies from the trap and then only after she's overcome her jealousy (as well as the other earth ponies) only then do the earth ponies get magic too
@willowallen4688
@willowallen4688 2 года назад
Omg I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw it this way!
@partyofnone159
@partyofnone159 2 года назад
Yeah I noticed this too and unfortunately it’s not just a problem with Make Your Mark but also other children’s tv shows and movies this past couple years. Unfortunately it seems to be getting worse with writers and morals seemingly don’t exist only having instant entertainment that isn’t really entertaining because it has poor writing or poor acting and most of all it has no morals and character development. The main characters of the movie and their personalities in the special seem completely different in my opinion. In the movie they are clearly learning and growing with lots to work on still by the end of the movie but when you look at their characters in Make Your Mark you just see hollow marry sues as the main characters which each are teaching poor morals in their own right.
@khosrowanushirwan7591
@khosrowanushirwan7591 2 года назад
I have a theory :- Sprout went to art school to get rejected.
@jakafontorkar9776
@jakafontorkar9776 2 года назад
This special is also bad because it pretends that Earth Ponies NEVER had magic, which is an outright lie. The G5 writers are completely ignoring the pre-established lore of G4.
@Reyna__y11
@Reyna__y11 2 года назад
You're so right all the time! And I love how you'd do your story, sounds much better than the original, lol
@techclass1896
@techclass1896 2 года назад
Mixed thoughts on your idea for a character arc. In some ways I really like how you established the concept of thankfulness/gratitude without resorting to the "it could be worse" mentality/phrase. However, I still feel like earth ponies having some kind of magic of their own will be linked to the overall plot of the series because Sunny is an alicorn, bit started off as an earth pony, even if the earth pony magic came later in the series. A lot of the personalities in the make your mark special did not match the New Generation movie well, but I sort of feel like the Make Your Mark special was G5's equivalent to an equestria girls movie (it fills in time gaps and may only have a few relevant plot points to the overarching story, but you don't necessarily feel like you missed out too much if you were not able to watch the movie along with the series). I feel like Hitch's change in character had the potential to be part of his arc, but the opportunity was missed. He could have had a reaction to how he was perceived in the first movie by the others (and of course the other tribes not being bad), then decided that he needed to be more lenient to compensate. By the end of the special, listening to Zipp's concerns and making her a detective could have been a way of showing that he reached a happy medium between laid back to the point of neglecting his duties and being over the top serious. However, the special didn't really seem too concerned with Hitch.
@keylime1237
@keylime1237 2 года назад
No, it teach you to not be unfair. Posey's jealousy was understandable, because while unicorn have telekinesis and pegasus can fly, what can earth pony do? she feel left out, it's not fair. you may argue "but earth pony did have magic in g4", no they don't, at least not all of them. you may argue "earth pony are stronger than other pony", so far only select few of them have super strength and most of them are from apple and pie family, which they are related. or you may argue "earth pony have the power to starve other tribe", how? because they have farming magic? well, twilight apparently better at farming than apple jack by using her magic. hell, starlight could easily put ms. cake out of business, what stop the unicorn from making farm of their own? admit it, unicorn are op and earth pony are at lowest in this race hierarchy, just how many unicorn oc are out there? and here it is, other race move into their town, their home, with unfair advantage, like a spit in the face. wasn't just that. posey was unjustly bullied a lot by the mane 5 in tell your tale, i'm not kidding. so she have been develop distaste for mannerless foreigner fore some time now. also sprout did said earth pony use to at war with other tribe and hitch confirm it was taught in school, fear and paranoid that build up for generation wouldn't just go away overnight. so here the conclusion, posey dislike mane 5 personally, still distrust other race, and feel left out because earth pony didn't have magic until now. i'm not trying to justify her. i'm trying to make other people understand her. you probably disagree with me anyways beacuse you already made up your mind on hating g5 from the start. so forget what i just said.
@smolson8471
@smolson8471 2 года назад
It really felt like I was the only person who saw this perspective. Yeah I don’t think the story was told in the best way but she’s not just being ‘selfish’ and ‘annoying.’ A bunch of foreigners come to her land and they have all of these powers while her people have nothing. Who wouldn’t be upset about that? And all the ‘powers’ that earth ponies had could be replicated by unicorns who could also do a variety of other things. Even in this series, I doubt that a trained unicorn couldnt do the same things that these new earth pony powers can do
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 2 года назад
You know, if they're not teaching that starting a race war, attempting murder, and destruction of property has no consequences, it's a step up from the ending of the movie.
@scoutgaming737
@scoutgaming737 2 года назад
I think that the ending of the movies can be kinda justified by the fact that, for his entire life, he thought that it was the right thing to do
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 2 года назад
@@scoutgaming737 Well, you would say that, you hurt people. LOL No but seriously, that's messed up.
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 2 года назад
What
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 2 года назад
@@SilverSpoonRiche When
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 2 года назад
@@SilverSpoonRiche How
@Logan_The_GiganotoZilla
@Logan_The_GiganotoZilla Год назад
Did anyone know that Posey in G1 was actually Super nice and motherly and literally just G1 version of Fluttershy
@velipamrainbow
@velipamrainbow 2 года назад
You are so right!!! And the alternative sounds so much better!
@thespeedyyoshi
@thespeedyyoshi 2 года назад
My gosh, I still haven't watched make your mark. With that summary, GOSH I kinda don't want to XD DID THEY REALLY DO THAT?? What kinda villain are they writing here? One that gets what they want?? The heck Remember g4? Remember Scootaloo wanting to fly, and never being able to? And she accepts wholeheartedly and still is living so happily. That was so emotionally and perfectly developed. Nah screw that, lets's give the jealous character exactly what they don't deserve.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
She actually played such a small role in the story that not only would I not consider her a villain, but she's barely an antagonist. She was horribly underutilized.
@VileOkami
@VileOkami Год назад
After TYT I'm on Posey's side. She reacted poorly to a life altering event at first then mostly calmed down. But apparently because she didn't like the Pegasi and Unicorns at first she's doomed to be harassed the rest of her life.
@joehumpston7937
@joehumpston7937 4 месяца назад
Posey’s just a Karen through and through.
@gwendolyndunn8021
@gwendolyndunn8021 2 года назад
Based on what I heard from a RU-vidr named Azenzone and his reviews of Doki Doki Precure, saying that it's ok to be selfish isn't a bad thing. To quote his fourth part of the series review: "Selfishness and Selflessness are two sides of the same coin and people NEED both in order to truely live. If you try to live your life with only the later it will only lead to complete apathy toward everyone and everything." He did explain that while Doki Doki was teaching the kids that selflessness was right a grand majority of the time, he also said that there are times when the two sides aren't black and white and that wanting nothing can be more destructive than pure greed. He did mention that overdoing it was a concern, but the point still stands. You can't throw away all of your desires, or will be suffering a fate worse than death: apathy.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
I don't want Posey to become completely selfless. The problem was that she went too far in the direction of selfishness, but then rather than being pulled back into the middle, she stayed where she was at and made people think she had changed because she wasn't angry anymore, but really she is only acting that way because she got what she wanted. So her extreme level of selfishness remains the same. I don't disagree with the point you made, I just don't think it applies to Posey.
@nyapkin
@nyapkin 2 года назад
This is exactly what I've been saying to my friends since I watched it! Make Your Mark had so many shortcomings, but I've hardly seen anyone talk about this point
@NJ-tm1vn
@NJ-tm1vn 2 года назад
Well it was unfair. Heck in mlp fim big mac wanted to be a unicorn, earth ponies complained about uniforms and Pegasus being able to do things they can never do, and especially when starlight was able to do a earth ponies job like bake a cake in a second. They wanted equality between the three races. How can they feel special when they couldn't do anything magical?
@nathenewendzel7806
@nathenewendzel7806 Год назад
Speaking of Big Mac, I am pretty sure Spout and his mother are descendants of Big Mac and Sugar Bell and don't know it. Imagine their shock when they learn they have a tiny bit of unicorn in their ancestry. I also think Posie is a descendant of Fluttershy. Imagine her shock when she learns there's a tiny bit of pegasus in their ancestry. Now I really want a story where they discover this. It would be really interesting to see.
@Beyondthe5thPanel
@Beyondthe5thPanel 2 года назад
Have we really come to the point where we’re regressing the stories characters just to put out content? You’re right, and the absolute pride and victim mentality really irks me now that you delved into this. It’s the same mentality our society has, why do we want to praise it. When Zuko said he was as proud as ever, Iroh gently admonished him by saying “Pride isn’t the opposite of shame, but rather its source.” Zuko then went out even more and struggled to develop his character, deciding not to play the victim card. This is something Posey could have done here and they dropped the ball majorly. She could have been the one, with the clues Zipp and Hitch had compiled, to figure out why things were going awry and SILENTLY start trying to help. She could have realized, and with some of your scenario, been the one to humble herself, apologize, and break free so she could be the one to shine.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
I love Iroh quotes! Also, I like your version better than mine. I think this would have been far more interesting.
@ZONTMUSOR
@ZONTMUSOR 5 месяцев назад
And that's why Misty is best pony in new generation. Because she have a character arc and change to better. And she do it like 3 episodes ore more
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 5 месяцев назад
100%! It's why during Harmonycon 2023 me and a couple friends had a panel talking specifically about her.
@lostpony4885
@lostpony4885 2 года назад
We enjoy indulging our selfishness watching spoiled magic pones
@RaisonLychi
@RaisonLychi 2 года назад
Wasn't Posey just a second Sprout?
@moonlightartrist6098
@moonlightartrist6098 2 года назад
me: left MLP fandome sees MLP gen 5: Alr bitches here i am
@johnadams7145
@johnadams7145 2 года назад
I feel like the series will improve over time, this was mainly just a special before the series in September.
@EYYYYYJustin
@EYYYYYJustin 2 года назад
Bro have you seen tell your tale? Posey didnt hate the other races because they envy her. They hate her because she gets shit on all the time. Besides what we see in make your mark Izzy fucked her over at the movie,and now in the latest episode of Tellyour tale Izzy outright assaulted Posey.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 2 года назад
Like I've said in other comment sections, Posey *is* being obnoxious in MYM, but her concerns about magic are _not_ unwarranted.
@jshadowhunter
@jshadowhunter 2 года назад
This special is also bad because it pretends that Earth Ponies NEVER had magic, which is an outright lie.
@prototype450
@prototype450 2 года назад
I would say that a certain amount of selfishness is important to do the right thing at times.
@fluffyderp7778
@fluffyderp7778 2 года назад
I think your idea is right , turn out g5 was not i expected . I'm still missed g4 a lot
@jamesk8654
@jamesk8654 2 года назад
I think you are not seeing everything. Remember g4 and the earth ponies. They had skills, not magic. Like labour, politician, farmer. When sunny brought magic back, she doomed the earth ponies to servitude again. Remember the hearts warming story. Remember how well the other two were well dressed or armoured and them in rags. That power to grow things is just the writers trying to balance the bad hand that earth ponies got. Remember the movie. Earth ponies were doing great because they didn't lose anything. They were eating fine. Now its back to give us food or we won't protect you plebes. Sunny giving everyone their powers back. Makes sunny a LITERAL TRAITOR to her species. She doomed them all back to servitude. Oh I can grow things. Good feed us plebes. That is why she is a princess now. I think sprout was smarter than you all think. They were equal, and the other races couldn't handle equality, so they fell apart, or lied.
@sunboltgift711
@sunboltgift711 2 года назад
But if an individual whose species had certain talents and they no longer have them, then it's not equal true equality comes when people or ponies on this case realize there are differences within certain ethnic groups within a race or even differences between male and female and they decide to work together regardless of those differences or even using those differences to an advantage for the betterment of society and themselves. To force a handicap on another isn't equality it's a crutch and it will only make things worse and bring the entire species down, there's a reason why love is preferred over hate because hate will eventually destroy a species while love will allow it to prosper, it wont be easy but it'll be worth it after all it's so much easier to hate because it's easier to point fingers and blame others for things that you're not willing to change or work hard enough for, or that are not even possible for you and you're just jealous that someone was born with a certain thing that you weren't this also applies to the real world which is the reason why the world's in the shape it's in too many selfish people that want everything and are not thankful for the little things they have, if the Earth ponies create the food they have the ultimate power because everything has to eat without food you starve and die so therefore the Earth ponies have the biggest advantage and even in our real world those pulling the strings really enjoy controlling the food because pretty soon they're going to be the only one's saying when and where we peasant folk can eat. Sprout wasn't on to something he was just jealous and selfish and it's because his mother did a bad job at raising him, but he was a cool character, after all if they decided to hate each other they would all end up dying because it looks like with magic being back it would just end up absorbing them all in some sort of abyss, or possibly even something worse. I guess what I'm trying to say is true equality comes from within and when you know you are at peace with yourself with who and what you are and your abilities and your limits, which you accept with the understanding that it is something you cannot do so don't worry about it and then others are also on the same level about themselves and they accept who and what they are and then y'all work together to create a utopia where even if one person is at a disadvantage somebody else is there to replace the disadvantage with an advantage but sadly it rarely works that way and people go back to bickering and fighting over stupid stuff.
@jamesk8654
@jamesk8654 Год назад
@@sunboltgift711 dude they were all earth ponies. No magic. Regular horses. There was no better equality. Horses have survived and thrived just fine. It still doesn't excuse sunny for betraying her species. Just like America. We don't boost our enemies above us. This was
@jamesk8654
@jamesk8654 Год назад
@@sunboltgift711 the worst thi g she could have done. She put them back on the bottom again. The hearts warming episode showed all this
@sunboltgift711
@sunboltgift711 Год назад
@@jamesk8654 She didn't betray her species she simply United them, as Earth ponies, Pegasus ponies, and Unicorn Ponies are all of the same species, Equine. The ones with wings or a horn are simply different variations of the same species. Now if you're talkin about Sunny star Scout giving another species such as say a hippogriff or a griffin or a Minotaur or whatever more power than they normally had then you could say she betrayed her species. I don't see how having Magical abilities brings one to the bottom, if anything the HWE episode showed us that through challenging times with friends you become stronger and can survive a dangerous challenge, sure they could have just stayed stagnant and not gained magic at all and continued to be weak living in fear, you don't understand this is true in life that suffering creates strength and when one is lazy, stagnant, and refuses to learn or adapt they in the end become weak and will eventually die off, imagine if an incident similar to the HWE event occurred regardless of how it could happen or if it was maybe technologically induced instead of magical when they didn't have the ability to use magic or work together, the outcome would have been different.
@jamesk8654
@jamesk8654 Год назад
@@sunboltgift711 come on, how can you not understand this. You sound like a hippie. We are the same race too. But we don't make the enemy stronger. This doomed the earth ponies back to farmers and plebs serving the others. Bring them together ha. What kind of stuff have you been smoking. They were equal, the others just couldn't handle it. No one had magic. Since the earth ponies were the closest , they had no problem adjusting. The others lied, or went into depression. Now that they have magic thanks to sunny now they have bigger threats. So not only did she ruin true equality but put everyone in danger. How is that not a traitor. She was a hippie with good intentions but no understanding. Sprout was right. Unity is a pipe dream even we know this. But we don't make China stronger in hopes they change
@quinnhouk5369
@quinnhouk5369 2 года назад
The ONLY GOOD THING about this was the opening. That was it. The rest felt like I was watching a PS2-3 cutscene. And I never had a PS2 or 3. Only PS4 and XBOX 360
@SunnyPopFeline
@SunnyPopFeline Год назад
ngl, if you remade the stories of the MLP G5. They would be 20% more cooler
@PurifiedCheese
@PurifiedCheese 2 года назад
“It’s evolving just backwards”
@looneymicrophone6431
@looneymicrophone6431 2 года назад
I don’t think it’s teaching selfishness I think it might help people understand why people act selfish like posey felt left out and she said sorry afterwards
@CineFunStudios
@CineFunStudios Год назад
I think the character of Posey is actually supposed to be them attacking OUR BACKLASH to G5 continuity.
@nathenewendzel7806
@nathenewendzel7806 Год назад
Theory: Sprout is decent of Big Mac and Sugar Bell and Posie is desendant of Fluttershy.
@Kuraimizu9152
@Kuraimizu9152 Год назад
Writers did say they wanted to push "anti-racism activism" in G5... So I guess, that means some of the ponies will be playing the role the the racist one... And never grow out of it... Activism never writes good stories... That's a fact... And you seem to begin to understand why.
@AngelVazquez-vs9xp
@AngelVazquez-vs9xp 2 года назад
Just be a writer for the show already😆
@ultimatecatnerd5741
@ultimatecatnerd5741 2 года назад
Am I the only one who thinks Posey looks like Chloe from Miraculous Lady Bug?
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon 2 года назад
Indeed she does, in fact it would be funny if Posey had the same voice actor as Chloe but thankfully she doesn't.
@Kamykc312
@Kamykc312 2 года назад
I don't think she's being strictly "selfish" ', you can't be selfish with things that are not your property (she doesn't own Maretime Bay nor that bunch of ponies) that's being envious and resentful. Also, I don't like this thing of "hey, be friendly or Friendship Police will obliterate you and you'll loose everything" what kind of moral IS that? They should see that diversity leads to economic and political freedom advantages, etc that leads to life quality improvements. Not even a single of these were showed, Sunny just says "we are better now" but she doesn't explain why. Well, I think lack of money leads to lack of resources like time and human capital, which leads to bad story telling and animation quality loss.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche Год назад
After watching all 33 episodes of TYT I am on Posey's side. She was literally chased down on a scooter and aerial attacked by Izzy in the street, knocked head over hooves many times all to steal a plastic earring from her. To say nothing what Sparky does to her rose garden on Nightmare Night. he turns it into the Olive Garden (lol) and Izzy EATS her plants turned into pasta.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike Год назад
Now if only they used these examples instead of her just saying: "I just don't like it when you pegasi fly too high up."
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche Год назад
@@Star_Strike That was the dumbest complaint ever. Too low I understood. Too high is just making Posey a b!tch for no other reason than they need an antagonist because Sprout doesn't exist until the video game came out or something like that.
@renealbrechtsen9743
@renealbrechtsen9743 2 года назад
While I agree with your points about her arc and how you would go about it instead, I thought Posey was very similar to that villain-type of character (I believe it was Mildew. Correct me if I'm wrong) they had in the beginning of Defenders of Berk (HTTYD). He hated dragons and was very much against the idea of the dragons moving into the town. My point is just that she's supposed to be a type of villain, just like him, so she's not supposed to be very likeable. I kind of hope that we'll see more of her and the main cast eventually pointing out her selfishness in some way, or that she learns it for herself, which would be a great lesson. :)
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
There are certainly characters that are designed with the intention of not being likable. I would say it's possible that Posey could later on be called out for her jealousy, except for the fact that by the end of MYM it was treated as though she had changed and everypony were now friends. The writers do seem to want us to like Posey by the end of the special, or at the very least not dislike her.
@renealbrechtsen9743
@renealbrechtsen9743 2 года назад
@@Star_Strike I agree with you. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see. :)
@NightCloudI
@NightCloudI Год назад
Your story about Posy is a great live lesson worth of mlp G4 ❤
@Spottedstorm27
@Spottedstorm27 Год назад
I have an earth pony oc that was born in cloudsdale to two pegasi. They had to move to ponyville for her safety and she grew up rather upset by this. She wanted to fly like them and see her birth home. But instead of a magical solution, she made her own wings with her own crafting skills and became the inventor of the hot air balloons we see in canon.
@SunIsLost
@SunIsLost Год назад
1:45 that's best way to describe it
@VcSaJen
@VcSaJen 2 года назад
Earth Ponies, Pegasi and Unicorns are meant to be equal. It's euilateral triangle. Your story would have worked if Posey was a cow or a donkey, but setting up Earth Ponies as "Unicorns without horns" or "Pegasi without wings" is goes against everything.
@widesunny3456
@widesunny3456 2 года назад
All I can say is just "lol what?"
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 2 года назад
You could say they 'missed the mark' (Ba Dum Tiss). Sorry that pun writes itself.
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
I'll allow it XD
@TheFloraBonBon
@TheFloraBonBon Год назад
G4 storyboard artists and the director helped and actually thought about each lesson and how they would plan out, some were great and some wasn't but they were slightly okay. I they had the same people then maybe G5 the series might've worked at actually teaching lessons
@dragonninja3655
@dragonninja3655 Год назад
I can not STAND Sunny. The more I see of her the more I actively dislike her. She doesn't care about anybody, just the message. She doesn't care if laws are broken, if ponies are in danger, if property is vandalized, etc. And she is supposed to be the "princess" character.
@Alexandr2222
@Alexandr2222 Год назад
Ну да, конечно... Возьмём пятый сезон G4. Выкидыш от Меган Макарти. Устроить сперва секту где занимались членовредительством, а затем вообще глобальный акт терроризма и объяснить это тем, что в детстве друг уехал, это, что? Акт безмерного альтруизма по вашему?
@yehuertas
@yehuertas 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure Posey was in g1. She changed A LOT.
@sorubitten
@sorubitten 2 года назад
It's not the same character, though. Look at Rainbow Dash in G3 and G4.
@SilverSpoonRiche
@SilverSpoonRiche 2 года назад
0:10 Oh, so they're going to continue that velcro hoof thing from the mo... WHAT THE BUCK!? How did she just spin that thing!? 0_o
@AngelVazquez-vs9xp
@AngelVazquez-vs9xp 2 года назад
There are moments in the special where you can see the characters use their mouths to hold things, like in the scenes where they are cooking. I guess that the animators knew about the Velcro hooves thing.
@CozyGlow625
@CozyGlow625 2 месяца назад
There are gargantuan amounts of characters i abominate, but it reaches its fullest potential with this yellow mess named Posey. I have never observed a character who makes me desire to rip my hair out, storm to the studio and demand that an animation of the character getting slowly and painfully abolished from the universe be created. This character does not merit a single positive thing.
@Tairafan
@Tairafan 2 года назад
2:30. It didn't block magic from being used. It only made it so the staff was alerted if magic was used
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792 2 года назад
I don’t think the posey was selfish. Hitch mentioned that magic can be scary and powerful. Posey was just mad that the Pegasus and unicorns who have magic are nit using them properly which is not true. Somewhere at the end of the episode when she was stuck, she still blamed it on the Pegasus and she got the frightened look on her face when windy said her magic is not working and she stopped talking and show the face that she needs help. She was just one of those earth ponies who were taught before that Pegasus and unicorn have magic and are dangerous. Most of the earth ponies are okay with other ponies coming to maritime bay but posey was staying away from the Pegasus and unicorn because she was too used to the old rules that earth ponies need protection but because after magic returned, she was mad. But also at the same time , she was jealous how other ponies have magic and she don’t. (Part of her feels that way)
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792
@baeldaikokuten_yj6792 2 года назад
My point is posey couldn’t trust the Pegasus and unicorns. It is fear that she is letting it control herself and it leads to destruction as always.
@Wildcard71
@Wildcard71 2 года назад
Fun fact: In French, "Pose y" means _put there._ Does this mean, she is only an obligatory character?
@emperorgrogar276
@emperorgrogar276 2 года назад
Excellent! Soon enough these pathetic Equines will make it possible for my return!
@Star_Strike
@Star_Strike 2 года назад
Uh-oh... Sooooo, can I join your Empire before everything falls apart?
@emperorgrogar276
@emperorgrogar276 2 года назад
@@Star_Strike Of course! If you don’t mind being turned into a Troggle.
@Kamykc312
@Kamykc312 2 года назад
Don't let them trick you kids. Be selfish
@SunIsLost
@SunIsLost 2 года назад
This series is officially over
@braveheartthewarriorcatajClare
@braveheartthewarriorcatajClare 2 года назад
Fr
@renamon5658
@renamon5658 2 года назад
Hope g5 gets better latter on
@Donut3949
@Donut3949 2 года назад
Lets juzt talk about how its leaning 1 pixle to the girl audiaunce
@redpanda881
@redpanda881 2 года назад
Why are people being so cruel over one bad mlp special. I never saw this much hate for one episode in my life.
@renamon5658
@renamon5658 2 года назад
So far the idw g5 comics are better than the show
@fuzzywheezledoodlers
@fuzzywheezledoodlers 2 года назад
Dude it's a 40 minute special i don't think they're gonna have time for any character arcs considerint the show hasn't even STARTED and ESPECIALLY for the main characters since they already had their introduction in the movie also the earth ponies were always supposed to have and always HAD magic just think abt the end of the movie the 3 ponies ran but only the earth pony left behind glowing hoofmarks and you dont call that magic?
@ksc1253
@ksc1253 2 года назад
You don't need 40 minutes to write a character arc. All you need to do is give a character a flaw, and have them overcome said flaw. Friendship is Magic did it in 22 minutes, and Tell Your Tale does it in 5. 40 minutes is more than enough time to write an arc.
@golden_laufeyson8
@golden_laufeyson8 2 года назад
Super unrelated, but at 2:15 - 2:23 the animation bothers me a little bit. Like it looks like a fan animation to me. Great video!
@StonedSatan
@StonedSatan 5 месяцев назад
I feel like I'm the only one who likes MYM more than TYT 😬😬
@toonmania25
@toonmania25 2 месяца назад
you’re not the only one 😊
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 2 года назад
This is another reason to ignore G5.
@sonicspeedproductions2.04
@sonicspeedproductions2.04 2 года назад
Good luck ignoring g5. I'll be on the look out the next time you are seen on a g5 video
@PWingert1966
@PWingert1966 2 года назад
@@NikoZguri So far I have seen divisive politics, racism, and selfishness 9WAY TO GO pOSEY!)in the movie and the make-your mark characters that I have watched. Do I need to know more?
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 2 года назад
G4 took time to get rolling too. I am giving G5 a chance. So far I'm cautiously optimistic.
@GreenHura
@GreenHura 2 года назад
i remember when same people freak out about mlp eg got revealed for long time
@redpanda881
@redpanda881 2 года назад
One person even created 5 videos centered around how much they hate it.
@ponytailpxs
@ponytailpxs 2 года назад
Your plot is definitely better.
@michaelstethem739
@michaelstethem739 2 года назад
It's 2022. Selfishness is par for the course in entertainment.
@patrickmao9406
@patrickmao9406 2 года назад
Maybe it was more on world building. I don't understand why people are obsessed with morals even when it isn't even considered an educational show.
@traciestreet4019
@traciestreet4019 2 года назад
I mean a kid's show is supposed to teach morals but i kinda agree that this video was really pointless.
@patrickmao9406
@patrickmao9406 2 года назад
@@traciestreet4019 Yet some kid's show got away with it like teen titans go
@MegaDynamiteDan
@MegaDynamiteDan 2 года назад
Yeah people are too strict and critical
@traciestreet4019
@traciestreet4019 2 года назад
@@patrickmao9406 Also if i may add posey did not want magic she hated it and she felt left out some people hate change she's not getting what she wanted because she never asked for it. what's funny is that FiM did that bad moral in season 8
@dancingwithpalmtrees
@dancingwithpalmtrees 2 года назад
just wished it was sprout not posey
@moth8455
@moth8455 Год назад
am i the only one who DESPISES this 3d format of the movie??…
@AndroiMofos
@AndroiMofos 6 месяцев назад
In my day ungragfull chilldren are beaten.
@AndroiMofos
@AndroiMofos 6 месяцев назад
Ungradful
@maus6095
@maus6095 2 года назад
sprout was erased
@Puppeterfan3751
@Puppeterfan3751 2 года назад
good
@maus6095
@maus6095 2 года назад
@@Puppeterfan3751 😭😭
@Puppeterfan3751
@Puppeterfan3751 2 года назад
@@maus6095 I never liked him so thank goodness XD
@ChildofChrist1983
@ChildofChrist1983 2 года назад
I will semi-quote BlueStarBrony for this one, because I am getting really sick of neighsayers. The show is literally called MAKE YOUR MARK. As in, ponies are still learning about magic and MAKING THEIR MARK with it in the NEW GENERATION. THAT is the point! Is this special perfect? No, absolutely not. Is the ANIMATION perfect? No. But guess what? NOTHING IS!! And complaining about Posey having a weak to "no arc" is basically pulling a Starlight Glimmer 2.0. Posey had every right to be upset/jealous for feeling left out because the Earth ponies got the short end of the stick for so long. No pun intended. And at least she humbled herself at the end, knowing how she reacted was wrong. Starlight, so far as I remember, didn't even do that. Even so, she still grew and became a better character. Posey could get the same treatment later down the line as this was only a pilot per se for MYM. We got great introduction in the original pilot movie, now this special is fleshing out more, expanding on it. People are inclined to like what they like, sure, that's a given. But we should also be grateful for what we've been blessed with and the fact that Hasbro is going out of their way to give us these specials and this series, let alone in the movielike style, when they didn't even have to do that for us in the first place! And here you and so many others are finding whatever you can to harp on about it like "spoiled brats". Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! I loved this special despite its flaws and imperfections and it saddens me to see so much disdain and outright hatred for it. Quite the opposite of what MLP has taught for decades. And like Pipp's song said, "Try something new, take a chance, just believe it!". Instead of looking at MYM for its flaws, embrace it for being new and continuing to try and for what it does right and give it a chance to blossom and bloom. After all, this new generation has only just begun, and adventure is full of surprises
@AngelVazquez-vs9xp
@AngelVazquez-vs9xp 2 года назад
That’s a perfect video script right there!
@ChildofChrist1983
@ChildofChrist1983 2 года назад
@@AngelVazquez-vs9xp Haha, just doing my part hoof to heart! ^.^ Who knows, maybe one day, I'll do a video review for MYM and Tell Your Tale as well. I'm certainly enjoying G5 as a whole thus far!
@traciestreet4019
@traciestreet4019 2 года назад
@@ChildofChrist1983 Your comment is the only one in this comment section i agree with. and i thought it was ok.
@ChildofChrist1983
@ChildofChrist1983 2 года назад
@@traciestreet4019 And to expand upon that, I really must add: Sprout anypony?? He complains about Posey being weak for this and that, but what about Sprout? He actually started another communist war or nearly did when HE was having his hissy fit! And just being a total "Mommy's boy" throughout the whole "A New Generation" pilot movie. At least with Posey, you can understand her reasons to an extent. Sprout was just a joke of an antagonist. So much so, even his mom all but disowned him at the end and he's currently on the run in "Tell Your Tale". And Star wants to call POSEY'S arc weak and non-existent?! Puh-lease!!
@traciestreet4019
@traciestreet4019 2 года назад
@@ChildofChrist1983 This is the same guy who complain about lore in his review to be fair his review was not the worst. mlpfever's video is so much worst.
@sandimiller5187
@sandimiller5187 2 года назад
Good stuff!!!
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