@@anonanon9880 Yea, no, not all are fake. Master Yu, or Ipman, was famous for his Wing Chun. In fact, the fight we see here against someone who knew Wing Chun, was actually fairly even. Even Bruce Lee wanted to be taught it from Ipman, but was refused.
Well it’s not better in the west. The insane russian collusion propaganda was in the media 24/7 and to this das countless people believe it. That’s how propaganda works.
@@natyaprabowo2141 basically media Chinese: boxer Media:meh... Chinese: fake kung fu Media: hes asian so its true and itiots want something interesting
Yes you're right, MMA itself is a pack of martial arts style that's why it is abbreviated from mixed martial arts, so MMA is not a fighting style it is the compilation of it
I am proud of Xu Xiaodong. Becuase he exposed these fake masters, he, his family and his parents are constantly harassed by authorities. His all social media accounts have been shut down. He continues to fight alone, but many people from all over the world admire his strength and support him.
@Jezthedead actually, is there any other way to prove his points other than fighting? both sides are fighting-oriented. and if you only speak out your opinion, your social score will get reduced and/or you'll get ignored. in my eyes, he's doing the absolute best he can exposing frauds and scams.
@@reihanboo I mean he is right in exposing these fake master and out there, there are definitely real chinese martial arts masters in their own right. And I will admit, some chinese martial arts are definitely just for show, like wushu taolu, which simply are pre-choreographed forms on a carpet. However, some others like wushu sanda really is actual chinese boxing.
Exactly. He didn't really like calling anything a "style". He wanted to do away with that term. Not to say that there shouldn't be a distinction between Karate and Taekwondo for example. But he was tired of the style vs style viewpoint. I think his quote on being water says it all.
It ends with him saying "maybe it won't be 20 years until I'm respected"... Mate, I'm Australian but you have all of my respect. Anyone who stands up to frauds and is willing to fight against this censorship culture we are all as humans experiencing, I respect them more then any other that walks this Earth. This man is already guaranteed to be remembered, just keep doing you brother! ✌
that's why they call you "DOWN UNDER" ... do the world a favor and stay there, and speaking of standing up to frauds, let's start with those Gracie scammers, the only thing people like him will be remembered for is his arrogance and the ways he paid for wrongly expressing it
this man is already respected. just mostly not in China. He has a lot of courage for speaking and proving the controversial truth in a country like China. Hats off to Xu Xiadong.
Nah, he did bring light to MMA in China. It's what he had done afterwards that shattered his life. He became an extreme streamer that slowly drifted out of his first goal in the beginning.
@@georgetsoukalas1409 You ever heard of the person "Ma Bao Guo"? He basically claimed himself as a master but got knocked out by a boxer in 1 hit and every Chinese person is making fun of him now.
@@rheejin9987 if streaming and becoming popular along with making mma popular doesn't correspond with opening mma up to more people in china then what does
@@hello-gx6oi Interesting quote. From what I gather, the quote means, “I shall arrogantly be denial of anything that doesn’t fit my beliefs than accept them.
@@markparkinson6947 well that's right because before there Twitter account tweeted that There was someone asking What happens if they shut you down Then vegetales responded with that sentence
this is what happens when the mantra "the technique is the most important thing" becomes reality and because of that raw physical strength, stamina and conditioning are ignored completely for the sake of tradition. Maybe there are some super-duper kung-fu masters (say 1 of 1000) who can beat a guy who's bigger and has a background of some fighting style. But we see what's happening in reality.
@@blu3flare25I agree, it's like someone telling someone, their an artist. But they've only practiced holding the pencil in many ways and never drew a picture.
I love your comments my dear dear folks, so true, thumbs up, thats what Bruce Lee wanted us to learn, salute to this man who have the same spirit of master Bruce Lee!
They have mastered child's play. It only took them several decades, too. Look at them now, a sobbing mess begging their communist overlords for false validation.
@@killua5081 there's only one thing more annoying and pathetic than W*mao 50c*enter pro-china brainwashees. And that's bitter, no money receiving, life wasting anti-china bots.
Especially in US, try to say you dont believe in LGBT, wait what you will get. You can loss your entire career just because of that. You dont even need to move your hand
@@ZaiinSan that makes better sense. it's a lot easier to 'win' against someone compliant to your moves and in the same style, eh? lol. put them in an MMA ring and all that fanciness goes out the window when your opponent doesn't throw a half-speed punch exactly where you want.
Dude was basically chilling in all those fights. His casual attitude should've been enough indication that he could end them in a moment if he wanted to.
@Hermanto Sagitarius well actually pulling out a gun can be used for self defence, rather than using your frail old man bones to punch a meat mountain of a man
@Hermanto Sagitarius tai chi only works in set of moves, most practitioners really don't have any experience in fighting other than sparring, ever heard of a streetfight where someone used taichi? no because most people would either run away or take out a weapon
@Hermanto Sagitarius true. But situation needs to assessed before using martial arts as self defence. Most countries do not forbid using pocket knives or pepper spray as self defence though.
@@SnoopNakha cultural revolution, Mao believed that communist philosophy is better than the traditional chinese confucian philosophy and buddhism teachings. Many paintings, books, and buildings were destroyed. From which some were over 2000 years old.
@@elderinisrael "martial" is not the equivalent of philosophy. Actually the word martial comes from "preparation for war". Martial arts exists due to wars. Philosophy is not directly related to that.
@@elderinisrael Isn't the definition of martial artist a person who does martial arts. MMA is a martial art so wouldn't that make someone who does mma into martial artist.
I dont get how hes "exposing" anything. Have 10 guys ambush him in the street and he'll be "exposed" too. Not everyone in the martial arts is trying to be a tough guy.
@@revonz I know this, you're are speaking to a Karateka, that has studied for close to 40 years of my life, of and on, I am familiar with several styles of karate.
@@cinimatics it's not about how many people can attack you at once and if 10 people were to ambush him, it would expose, that the attackers were cowards.
@@amuroray6930 malaysia and Singapore and dominated by Chinese people. In fact, if I remember it correctly, Singapore is actually majority Han Chinese.
@@radityaananda9457 Yes indeed. The reason why China advanced as it did is because Deng Xiaoping freed their economic policies from ideological crusades.
@@awonoto yeah, my lecturer used that quote because my friends were arguing whether autoritharian or democracy is the best ideology to develop a state.
@Karl S the censorship has nothing to do with CCP. When twitter banned Trump, would you say "Oh~ It's the US propaganda"? The mainstream media and the government has little to no interactions, but they do share many ideologies so they might seem equal.
They were effective at some point in time eg-wing Chun was invented 400 years ago someone at the time probably thought of what others around them weren't doing Fast forward to 1990s Garcie beat people only using bjj, because the rules allowed to continue the fight on the ground and others didn't train for it Present day You can't just do that you also need striking abilities When you can't copy and use stuff from 90s it's self explanatory that except for few principles and techniques we won't be able to use a 400 year old art in exact form.
Kinda surprised that the Wing Chun guy actually threw some pretty decent strikes. Only issue was that he was clearly untested in actual combat and didn't know how to break a boxing style defense. Traditional martial artists should be praising this MMA guy for strengthening their art by putting it to the test, not vilifying him for exposing their weakness. Really shows who is actually a martial artist and who is delusional/ a con artist.
Well said. Most traditional martial artists I know who are practical and focused on functionality DO respect this guy. Myself more so after watching this. I had not heard is point of view of things before watching this video. Having listened to someone trash my art and call it garbage like Mr. Tai Chi did, i probably would've done the same in his position.
@@niagara7star Honestly people like this guy give me hope for the future of traditional martial arts. Rather than see these arts disappear, I want to see them evolve and become viable once more. This is a step in the right direction, even if it is painful to some.
Very few martial arts are practical in real world scenarios. I've studied Ninjutsu for fifteen years, and most of the techniques are impractical or rely upon trickery/deception. My brother holds several black belts, Wing Chung is one of them. Totally useless in a real world scenario, but quite 'practical' in the Dojo where the students respect their teacher and wouldn't think of knocking him to the ground.' Bruce Lee is on the greatest examples of overrated in the history of martial arts, not to mention a bad actor.
@@invisiblesouldier6166 Last time I checked, Ninjutsu was not a martial art, or even a fighting style. It is a system of guerrilla tactics used for sabotage and espionage. Shinobi rarely ever fought and were chiefly used as saboteurs or spies. Assassinations by shinobi were also few and far between. Schools taught today (if my knowledge serves me right) don't actually practice these tactics (don't have a direct lineage to it) but practice an immitation of it that has been expanded upon. I wouldn't compare an ancient war fighting system to martial arts, apples to oranges and all.
@@Skylander404 You should check out Zabit and the school of that UFC fighter and that gives hopes that there is a way for Chinese Martial arts to be incorporated. But it's always a problem since superficiality of Kung fu movies triumps the sad reality of an actual fight. These Chinese masters seem to cultivate an aura of invincibility rather than a humble way to approach a situation based on constant failures.
Nobody will say Kung fu or any other martial art is weak. As already said, most of these peole are fake .. The real ones practice for decades to make them physically and mentally strong.
LOL :D I think Tai Chi is great for relaxation, kinda like yoga, but not for self-defense. In a street fight an amateur MMA practitioner, a Tai Chi practitioner will get knocked out b4 he even raises his/her hands!
Tai chi is a joke. The best kongfu is from shaolin temple, it’s been this way for over 1000 years, some fellow Chinese won’t accept this because they are not pro buddhism like our ancestors. How sad.
Your prbly just a dumb log.. I don't, beating up defenseless old man.. we all know martial arts is full of balcony at times.. but this guy is clown just like u
Andrew Ortiz any of it can “work” it’s honestly a matter of setting. Wing chin STRICTLY in MMA wont do great. WC on the streets against an aggressor does wonders
"said that MMA is useless" MMA is the culmination of every fighting style developed around the world by combining all the best parts of everything into one dangerous and flexible package. And its the non-lethal version.
All right. In China everyone knows that the masters are fake. Xu xiaodong is not a hero, he is just a clown. The real heroes are those who really gave their lives to martial arts, such as IP man and Bruce lee.
@@liokilo1723 Bruce Lee is the founder of Jeet Kun Do, a literal MIXED MARTIAL ART. Xu is not a clown, because he is bringing more practical martial arts back into focus amongst the Chinese community, much like Bruce did. The clowns are those that believe Tai Chi and Kung Fu are useful in practice and brainwash people into thinking similarly.
@yellowleaf Thus the reason why many Chinese "master" FAKE their ability to focus and use Chi. Thus this all Fake Kungfu from Wushu Association because it makes lots of money. How many people can use Chi in China? I can tell you not all the "Famous" Kung fu masters from the look at of it. I suggest you look at video of all the "masters" this guy fought with, some of them are pretty famous with their "Chi" mastery trick.
@yellowleaf I don't believe in this 'chi' stuff, but to each their own. But when one villifies other techniques to make yourself look better even after being shown proof, that's where arrogance takes over the art.
“Tai chi is an aerobic exercise for the elderly” FACTS BRUH Anyone who believe Tai chi allow u to enter some Goku ultra instinct like in them Chinese movie is dumb bro
There are 2 styles of Tai Chi. One actually is very hand hand combat focused, the other is the balance, flow, chi focused style. Most are unaware of the fighting style of tai chi but it is real and it is effective.
Traditional Chinese martial arts should be thought of as fitness now, with the emphasis on "art"...imagine if people mistook a military's honor guard or D&C units for actual fighting forces!!
There is a BIG reason, All ARMY in the world use Karate and MMA style as the training. Simple, fast, and very effective to disable and take down anyone.
i think the pidgeon technique is to work on reflexes. when the pidgeon tries to fly away and you move your arm down, the pidgeon wont get the momentum it needs to fly off the arm. i think it is a hard technique to do and practice in martial arts
actually the "pigeon method" works like this: when pigeon about to fly away, their claws or talon or whatever feet toe part clench naturally, so if you push your finger into their claws, they'll hold onto your finger, making it unable to fly so the concept is that taichi is about going with the opponent's flow and counter or redirect their blows to somewhere else, and if you can match/sense pigeon's movement, it shows your ability on taichi to a certain extent although I know how it works but I am still supporting this dude's work on exposing fake martial artists
Real-time translation on a podcast is certainly not impossible, but it would be a really short Rogan podcast. 2-3 hours of translated questions and translated answers would get pretty tedious.
@Me Myself Sure, and that's not something he would argue as well, I think. What is certain is that he sparred full pads and contact CONSTANTLY. So much so that he was able to test out and fine tune his concepts. His concepts were sought out by fighters who did fight professionally and went on to either be champions OR were already champions who added his concepts to their arsenal. There is a great video on RU-vid on Mr. Lee's demonstration sparring. You may have seen it, but if you haven't, it is pretty CLEAR by his footwork, timing, angles of attack, tactics, etc, that this guy was NOT the average 'master' who never fought professionally. Even in a controlled setting like a demo, it is VERY clear that he would be a rough customer to have to deal with. Lol!!
Man he got famous asf. this is a wake up call for traditionalist to train their students more realistic combat applications of their arts. And nothing hidden for internal students only
Nothing wrong with training in the traditional arts as long as they go into it knowing what they are getting into and its limitations. Specifically, its limitations in practical fighting.
It's a mark of refined civilization when martial arts turn into complete theory and magical nonsense. China has had the chance to develop fighting styles then let them decline into nonsense many times. Because the remaining nonsense props up racist, nationalist ideas based on nothing else, it will be defended by all means. China would rather have everyone obediently thinking the same thing even if it's wrong, especially about something as obsolete and anti-social as hand-to-hand fighting.
The real marcial arts are reborn when the war or something bad is coming. Like the real capoeira style which is letal but since there's no war they train in a exercise way or dancing-culture way.
@Derron James Jabutay I've watched Shaolin monks doing some totally bogus party-trick stunts as demonstrations. Sure they're very athletic, but so what? They don't often do well against Lethwai or Muay Thai opponents. That Yi Long guy got decoded and flattened, he was clearly running on fitness and basic skills.
China’s been dominated by flashy martial arts with moves that wastes more energy for presentation of the camera. He’s just trying to introduce MMA to China.
That's not entirely true. Kung fu movies, are the same kind of movies as Rambo, you're not supposed to believe that they are realistic. Grab any stunt man on a martial art movie set, or even martial art movie stars like Jackie Chan, they'll absolutely agree that they are not fighters, their acrobatic skills are for stage performing only. It's those self-claimed masters that deceived people into believing they can become the hero in those movies, to make profit from it.
A bunch of misconception. Martial arts seen in Chinese and Hong Kong movies are for the badassery, cinematic and theatrical purposes. They are mainly for showing off, not absolutely practical for fighting though they could be used for self-defense. However, like many other real martial arts, they are for the strength, the health, the discipline, and the morals.
These dudes are not in his weight class lol. These "masters" need to pack on some pounds if they seriously plan to win fights against other martial arts.
I might be mistaken, but the entire point of a lot of these “martial arts” is that you can take down someone bigger and stronger than you, so they’d kinda be probating their own martial arts wrong by doing that.
MMA boxer: Defeats a fake martial artist. Whole China: "You attacked the traditional Chinese culture!" So being fake is traditional in Chinese culture? :)
This man is a patriot. He represents China with honor, and wants the Chinese to have the best fighters on earth. If they don’t start training like the rest of the world, that won’t ever happen. I hope he will go down in history as a true patriot for his country. Weili is an amazing athlete. She has COUNTLESS fans in the west for her amazing technique and warrior spirit. She kickboxes and uses BJJ and wrestling. This is so sad and confusing.
Agree. Even Bruce Lee created his own fighting style, and he was all about adapting. He even street fought between movie takes. Kung Fu is great but to think that a kung fu master will win, they must be getting themselves. "Be like water my friend" -- adapt, B Lee.
This MMA guy is being exploited and manipulated by Westerners that include their media and even their governments --- to use him as propaganda tool to discredit Chinese martial arts. SCMP is also a part of this western media bias and bashing.
So your saying the Chinese communist government punished a man through its social credit system because he destroyed people?? I call BS, because they just imprison people like falun Hong and take their organs..
All of my respect to this man. Not to talk down on China, but the fact that the government treats him like this is beyond words, although not, unfortunately, unbelievable. Keep it up!
Aladria Why would you not “talk down” on China? It’s a evil place. The people are just people, but the communist government and society is evil. They destroy their own people. It’s getting better but still a million miles to go.
@@akiyamato3299 Yes, everyone knows how old China is and that communism is a fairly recent concept, but Mao killed tens of millions of his own countrymen for the communist cause as I'm sure you well know.
Historically, Ming Dynasty great general Qi Jiguang actually had same opinion about those fake martial artists 😊 "To be pretty isn't practical, to be practical isn't pretty" - Qi Jiguang Edit: I just realized after watched video for second time that the way Xu Xiadong treated has similarity to how Ming court treated General Qi Jiguang during his late life. For being vocal and non sense approach about corruption and general weakness of Ming military during his tenure, General Qi died in semi exile and poverty.
That's because, as a soldier, he practiced actual martial arts, which no longer exist today; almost all "Kung Fu" schools are peasant village boxing styles.
They are a bunch of hypocrates to be honest. I'm pretty sure China Military dont use these "traditional" martial arts for their soldier. It must be some kind of mixed style. Even in my country Indonesia, the home country of martial arts called Silat, the military doesnt use it. They instead use some kind of style of mixing Taekwondo with other style.
Well, look what happened to Ming dynasty, a century of humiliation by western powers. Even Mao's China survived because US invasions severely weakened Japan, and they couldn't hold onto their occupation in China any longer. Also Mao had Soviet backing. Being delusional and arrogant serves no purpose, it only brings danger and defeat to your nation. Modern China and India should also learn from that.
"Nobody knew about MMA In china but me" - Bruce Lee was the original MMArtist, and brought many forms of martial art along with popularity to the USA, indirectly becoming the father of American MMA. Part of his whole story was about his chinese community being against for not only mixing arts to create a new one, but for teaching it to americans as well.
@Karl S I was comparing him to the MMA guy that said he was the only person in china to know MMA. He wasn't by far, Bruce Lee was, and was ostrisized for it by these same "fake masters"
@@NinjaTheEvan it is possible that it was merely hyperbole, used because he knew no one there who knew of it. He can’t be expected to know what a billion other humans know anyways, and it is certainly true that China would wish to have as little overt western influence in their culture right now as possible. For that to be limited in the public domain is expected under their current regime, and the demonizing of MMA as foreign influence does sound about part for the course. Why would such a narrative permit its subject to become widely familiar to its people?
He's honorable warrior worthy of respect. It took a lot of courage to literally fight for what he believed it. He is an MMA Missionary, traveling into hostile populations to spread the word of true combat sports against the fake masters
China is too worried about politics for everything. East vs West etc. Look at Russia, you have amazing MMA fighters come out of there like Khabib. China is missing out of unleashing its potential on the world stage, it has almost 20% of the world's pop, there has to be some awesome athletes there if they would just sponsor them. Props to this dude for exposing fake martial artists.
True ... Jet li fell out With those in charge Of modern wushu in china Bcause they waterd it all down Took out the martial training.. Made it into Gymnastics By adding Acrobatics Instead of Combat related moves Or anything Similer to Combat
Define China. Don't use it interchangeably with the Chinese people, their government, and the country. All three are different. The whole country literally is backing this guy.
Think you meant cultural revolution. Great Leap Forward is where they got peasants with no experience in metallurgy to make waste metal out of pots and pans
Xu Xiaodong seems like a nice guy and an honest man. He already has my respect, and I hope he succeeds in gaining the respect he deserves from everyone.
I believed that kung Fu is real, however as society progresses, people are less exposed to dangerous situations like wars. I thing that it caused kung Fu to detoriate and lose it's fighting or killing prowess. Now it focuses more on forms, appearances and are mostly used for keeping a healthy body and mind.
@@americanmade6480 when did I get ahead of my self. I'm just voicing my opinion. I also didn't state that kung Fu is useless. If it is really useless no one would have continued practicing it. What I mean on my previous comment is that those fake masters are getting popular, that common people believe that what they are doing are real kung Fu. Because of it those people who doesn't know the truth will try to learn from those fake masters, then the cycle goes on. Fake kung Fu will spread.
The ancient kung fu was powerful and invented by Indian saint bodhidharman. But now China creates totally fake kung fu and illustrates that they have best fighting technique. Chinese kung fu is just attractive action.Nothing more. It is weak fighting method in real fight.
Exactly. Martial arts in the past was continuously fine tuned due to constant battles. If an enemy beats you, you don't complain that he's using foreign forces, you figure out how to improve your art so it becomes strong enough to beat those foreign forces.
The MMA fighter was focused on shedding blood rather than showing how fake the guy was. MMA cant expose anything if it cant show itself properly. You dont need steroids to prove the kung fu master is full of hot air.
@4:53 "Maybe it won't take 20 years before I will be someone who is respected by many people." count me as one of those people. Your fight against national level, false belief is something worthy of RESPECT
This man need some support outside his country, like boxing china produce a lot of boxer on amature than pro boxing same thing on this guy said that he maybe recognize him not more than 20 years... I think it will happen sooner as he move forward and show what MMA can do in country of china
I'm an ethnic Chinese and I fully support this guy. Most traditional martial arts in China are long removed from actual combat and what's left have been modified to be performance arts (basically dance moves) or used as exercise (the current state of Tai Chi, which originated as a defensive stance specializing in the use of the opponent's momentum against him) The existence of these "show" forms is fine as long as it's not advertised as practical combat forms, but if you want to advertise them as combat forms, you actually have to teach the combative parts of the forms and let them evolve as a whole. These older Chinese "masters" are refusing to do that
@@yup2570 It was a muay thai guy that smashed him. Xu is also passed his prime as well being over 40 while that thai boxer was much younger and had professional fights under his belt. At least that shows that Xu isnt afraid to fight those who are younger and more skilled than he is.
If only people would make content like this about fake dog trainers, too bad the only videos interesting enough to pull enough clicks are ones in poor practice.
I am not in MMA (and I will not, I stay in Judo), nevertheless the better fighter has to win and not any regime. As already stated, there should be no east, west or whatever.
That’s the most accurate description of Xu Xiaodong “MMA Activist”. He would benefit from adopting this term more than making fake claims about his role in “China’s first MMA” match. He was on the wrong ideological side.. he probably expected to win against Andy Pi and that would indicate that he was poorly briefed about MMA or just brash. Looking back, Andy Pi was probably told that Xu Xiaodong was absolutely no threat. His students at the time were much better Sanda fighters and would’ve had enough BJJ skills to take an easy win against Xu. I guess Andy wanted that low hanging fruit...
@@antdx316 u should also remember that getting trained in mma won't save you when someone who is armed with weapons/guns or is trying to rob you in a group...
