Model A on the DYNO!! 

Oh yes, I forgot to mention that - SAE horsepower are measured from the engine, no generator, fan or waterpump connected. So that's most likely where those couple of horses went.

They can, they start on fuel then run on kerosene .

Yes and that turbo noise 🤤 I bet it has got a biturbo setup

Oh, you're giving me ideas... Hill climbing, maybe xD

I agree

Hi Paul, it’s great to see you here!

Thanks alot - it's always great to hear that my attempts at making videos informative and watchable at the same time are somewhat successful :) Best of luck on your purchase. They are attention-demanding little buggers, but the more care you give, the more joy you get :)

I'd love a roots compressor kit - it doesnt even have to make extra power, just sound like it :D

You know ,they were all equipped with Turbos ,, especially the early ones,,,, HONEST ,,,

Genau so sehe ich das auch. Bei dem zähen Öl und der etwas... konservativ ausgelegten Lagerung geht sicherlich das ein oder andere Pferdchen verloren. Aber absolut kein Grund, jetzt am Motor herumzudoktorn. Ich nenne das immer "die Automatik der 30er Jahre" - dritten Gang einlegen und da lassen :)

LOL

It makes sense, since HP is torque times speed and it "redlines" at just 2,500rpm. I think my '13 Corolla's engine makes around 130hp, 100lbft at 4,000rpm, with a 6,000rpm redline, and according to the graph, the 'A made maximum power at only 1,300rpm; that's pretty much the same!

Thanks alot. Finding a comparable diagram is quite complicated for a number of reasons: First, there are hardly any cars that output only 40hp, these days. Even a Smart Fortwo has 70hp! Then, should you find a 40hp engine, its rpm range will be totally different. Today's engine get their power through high rpm, not large displacement (since power = work per time, more revolutions in the same time equal more power). While my car's engine tops out at around 2600rpm, most modern engines won't even have "woken up" by that point. And on the other hand, if you look up the curves of an engine with similar displacement, torque and hp figures will be completely off the grid. Imagine a Ford GT with 40hp xD A big plus for the Model A engine is it's constant torque. From 20 to 55mph, you basically have all the torque the engine can deliver, which is also the reason why you don't have to downshift even on steeper hills or roundabouts. It's not fast, but it's determined :D

@@AstraWerke thank you for the,added explanation. I too drive an A and marvel at its wide torque range. Now I feel more justified not shifting down as frequently with a modern high RPM engine.

Not to add insult to injury, but does you Buick make peak torque at 1300 rpm?

@@rhekman exactly. I think it redlines at 3.8k max.. That said I'd love to see the MPG that astrawerk gets from his Ford.

@@Blurredman My average over the last 8 months is around 17mpg. 3.3l of displacement want do be fed xD

@@AstraWerke English gallons or American? Either way that's not bad I'd say..!

@@Blurredman Oh, my bad - I used american gallons here. It's around 14 litres /100km, just to be clear.

Oh, I'd be very interested in the results of that! Packard built some incredibly beautiful and well-engineered cars in those days - I bet it'll be a torque monster!

Well, Germany is a long drive from the US, but I don't doubt you could find a variety of pre-war era cars, but those willing to Dyno run, eh, not do much, heh. Maybe even make a thing of it. A possible point of interest could be the performance differences between a US spec and UK spec car due to the different engines used as a result of taxing laws. It would be a great way to see the effects of various "improvements" that people would do. Such as a B model head on an A model, the ubiquitous Stromberg carb on an early flathead V8, etc.

@@danielhomant2832 Pre-War is a dieing breed, unfortunately. And they are guarded like a holy grail - the Model A-ers are the folk that drive the most, while many others rarely see the light of day. Putting one on the dyno... even rarer xD

@@AstraWerke oh absolutely. Numerous Model A, and a few other common pre war domestics around home. I have the only known Packard within a couple hours that is even somewhat road worthy. The other two are post war parts cars. It seems that every fourth house has some kind of popular 50's through 70's muscle car. Going to shows and meets, most of the owners and interested people for pre war are 60's and up. It's all about resto-mod muscle. Or if they are older, convertible, roadsters and at least coupes. I am completely out of place with my big 7 passenger sedan that I drive any chance I can. Even on muddy roads in the rain! Heh.

@@danielhomant2832 Over here, it's tons and tons of '80s cars - even to me, they just aren't "Oldtimers" - they're just some old car that got hyped because it's old and no different to operate than a modern car. And of course, they're all lowered, with wide tyres and whatnot... More a tuning show than an old car meeting. A few times a year, there's a dedicated pre-war meeting here and there - my car is always the dirtiest, but also the one that starts up first - because it's not a trailer queen that gets dragged from show to show, but actually drives itself there :)

One point Twenty-One Gigawatts?!???

That'd most likely bring up the figures a little more - trouble is that the amount of advance you can give is limited by the travel of the ignition lever. If I advance it too much, then I won't be able to retard the timing enough for it to not kick back during startup.

My guess is they measured engine hp, whilst we measured wheel hp. I can easily see 6hp getting lost in the drivetrain with the SAE250 oil and all that. Seeing that the engine performs just fine, I'll leave the head where it is until the gasket starts to leak - then, we can talk about removing material from it.

Ich denke auch, wenn die Jungs bei der AU ein paar Klare intus haben, bekomm ich die Plakette eher, als nüchtern ;P

First off its a Model A, secondly, I edited both the sound and the flames on the exhaust. The graph is from an Audi R8. Gotcha! xD

@@AstraWerke good try bro ! I can't believe how many people brought this ,,, what ever happened to common sense ?

Kann man machen, möchte ich aber nicht, weil dann die Belastung der Lager steigt - und das möchte ich bei druckloser Schmierung vermeiden.

@@AstraWerke das ist natürlich ein Argument… wobei das ja sehr viele gemacht haben, hab aber nicht so viel Ahnung von vintage Autos haha

@@blubb7711 Stimmt, das war und ist eine weitverbreitete Sache. Für meinen Teil bin ich aber vollkommen zufrieden mit der Leistung, die der Wagen bringt - ich komme alle Berge hoch, halte den Verkehr nicht auf - und schneller als 80 will ich mit der Kiste sowieso nicht unterwegs sein. Da fahr ich lieber gemütlich und hab den Motor dafür 10 Jahre länger - ist schließlich ein 90 Jahre altes Auto und kein Golf 2.

I guess the friction loss from the dyno is pre-determined and deducted from the result. Either way, it'd probably be the more real-life result as to what power is actually put onto the road and not lost in friction.

@@AstraWerke The difference is when the car is going down the road inertia is what is driving the front wheels. There is a difference.

@@76629online But the rear wheels still have to push the front wheels along, they don't turn on their own. The dyno will add extra friction due to the roller mechanism which the road doesn't.

Nope, that was the Model T, it's predecessor. The Model A already has the standard coil and distributor setup, but since the spark plug wires are bare strips of brass, interference is through the roof.

I would say no. A model t is more like a tractor

My understanding is the early engines architecture are all pretty closely related mechanically, mostly refined versions of the previous engines...model T engine -> model A engine which split paths with the 9n, 2n, and 8n tractor engine along one path and the Model B 4 cylinder & Flathead v-8 along the other. They even submitted the tractor engine for use in the WWII jeep during initial development and briefly used it in '42 for vehicles up to the 1 ton truck... so it is kinda all related

Never underestimate our ancestors!

No... You may have the same torque figure, but you have several times more horsepower from less than 1/2 the capacity. Also far greater reliability So no you are not being scammed