Modern Distribution of Nordic Haplogroup I1-M253

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A brief summary of the modern distribution of the Nordic Haplogroup I1-M253 among populations of Europe: Top 15 nations reporting I1-M253 as their y haplogroup according to the latest data release. These charts were gathered off of the internet and were not created by me - a special thanks to RU-vidr Irish Lioness for creating the series of charts referring haplogroups of modern Europe - I used these for the sole purpose of showing the top 15 reporting percentage of I1-M253 by country. It is speculative that I1-M253 developed in Scandinavia but it is certain that is where it become most proficient and most patrilineal lines trace their roots to the Battle Axe Culture era through to the Nordic Bronze Age.

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@FABIO_MARTINSS 7 месяцев назад

I'm I m253, and I'm from Brazil. My mother got 55% German autossomal DNA and my father 14%, but he got It from his father, of course. My patrilineal grandfather is from North Portugal, Galícia, invaded by suebic Tribes in 409 DC

@jonahslaton 7 месяцев назад

Nice history there! Thanks for sharing!

@billmclaurin6959 2 месяца назад

My YDNA is I1-M253-S12289 and originated during the Nordic Bronze Age in NE Denmark.

@sustainableselfrelianceire8768 4 месяца назад

Just a suggestion maybe don't have background music or at least lower the volume substantially it's very annoying and distracting

@masterofreality5528 6 месяцев назад

Fun fact: In Serbia is around 9%, but in Raska oblast it goes up to 15%

@paolosasso2189 3 месяца назад

I1-Z63 checking in

@IgorMuravyov-o5r 6 месяцев назад

There is no such thing as a Nordic haplogroup, sorry folks.

@spokemagnet19-zs9de 6 месяцев назад

You got that right! It is all time-sensitive as to where any male or female haplotype developed and stuck around, and no one really knows.

@jonahslaton 6 месяцев назад

Using the world Nordic? Should I’ve said North? Is this political correctness? I called it Nordic because at its highest percentage it’s found in the Nordic country. Pure facts. Name one other region where it’s at a higher position in both modern population with a higher amount of ancient finds? I’ll wait - and once you find that we can change it to the region you find. Of course we are not talking basil or any of the branch besides M253 which is very young - possible less than 5,000 years old. Debating where the branch came from before coming proficient out of its bottle neck is fruitless as there is no solid evidence for that, purely speculation.

@urseliusurgel4365 5 месяцев назад

@@jonahslaton What did the Romans, sorry!, Nordics ever do for us? Open-topped sandwiches, furniture design, sagas, each with 5,000 characters and not a single pronounceable name - yep, I'm running out of ideas. Except, of course, being the focus for a warped and entirely unscientific ideology that led to industrial murder on a staggering scale in the hands of the Nazi Party.

@SimpleMinded221 3 месяца назад

@@jonahslatonAlso, I1 or I1a started within northern Germany to sweden. So North or nordic is quite fitting. I1 here as well !!

@michaelmactavish4445 8 месяцев назад

great video jonah 👍

@jonahslaton 7 месяцев назад

Thanks Michael!

@krunomrki 6 месяцев назад

You forgot to mention Slovenia with 9%, Poland with 8,5% (same as France) and Serbia with 8% ... even Montenegro (Crna Gora in Dinaric-Adriatic region has 6%) ... For example: 8,5% among Poles is not small number, because Poland is a nation of cca. 36 million people. If we take that males are some 17 million of general population, then in Poland around 1 445 000 of males are belonging to I1 paternal haplogroup. More further: Population of Russia is now, in 2024 around 144 million people. Half of that number cca. 72 million are males; 10% of 72 million is: 7,2 million and 5% is 3,6 million of males in Russia which are belonging to I1 paternal haplogroup. And as I just checked, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland have all together population of 27 million and 700 000 humans, what gives a number of males approximately to 13 million and 500 000 individuals. Counting all together gives that in entire Scandinavia there is around 4 million and 600 000 males (4.6 million) belonging to I1 haplogroup, while in Russia number is cca. 3.6 million of males. And if we add to the number of 3.6 million another 1 445 000 males with I1 in Poland, it gives that in Poland and in Russia lives cca. 5 million of males having I1 paternal haplogroup. If you compare this to entire Scandinavia (4.6 million) you will see that in Poland and Russia summon together lives more I1 males than in all of Scandinavia. And I didn't include here I1 males from Ukraina. Conclusion is that a gene-pool of I1 males in the east of European continent (Russia, Poland, Ukraina) today is much bigger in total numbers than in Scandinavia.

@c4rt3ls. 6 месяцев назад

No way!! Your tests are not accurate!! There is no real I1 in Poland, neither I2!! You slavics doing racial eugenics to the maximum, means all your people are produced, you are R1a and R1a sub-haplogroups, R1a-Z282, R1a-Z284 and R1a-L664, even R1a-Z93 variants, hybrid species, it is a lie naming these R1a- variants as I1 !! Same with Ukraine, it is R1a-variants far away from anything germanic, you are slavic people no matter your hair- and eye-colors, all of you R1a and its variants!! And even if you score I1 in any genetic tests it must be wrong, then you have mainly I1 on an slavic R1a carrier, means you will never reach 100% I1 there will always be traces of these R1a variants just maybe less than 50% when you can score I1 °`

@jonahslaton 6 месяцев назад

Interested that you bring up I1 from Eastern Europe - as many believe I1 to come from the western hunter gatherers, I’ve often speculated the possibility that perhaps they were actually eastern hunter gatherers that mixed with the western I2 hunter gatherers to form the Scandinavian hunter gatherers. Also - the main focus is M253 here - we have no idea where I1 formed or originated, but roughly 4300-5000 years ago the branch of M253 formed somewhere in northern Germany or Scandinavia. Or even perhaps Finland. Over population totals are important but percentage of the overall gene pool shows the dominance of proficiency. Also, a lot of the I1 DNA in Ukraine and the Baltics and Poland trace back to older roots found in DNA remains in Scandinavia. Until ancient DNA remains are found for M253 in Eastern Europe, there is zero proof that’s that branch of M253 formed. Scandinavia or Northern Germany is still the highest possible location as the origin of M253 - before that we have several supervene potentials of where I1 and earlier branches originated and migrated to and from.

@c4rt3ls. 6 месяцев назад

@@jonahslaton Funny theory °° But unlikely, cause the slavics, your so called eastern hunter gatherer, they would never really coexist with germanic people, it is related to them being different hominids already kinda Neanderthals °´ They would always steal everything from us, even our women, while killing germanic males systematically, so everything today is as it always was!! Just take the Haplogroup R, if R1a in the slavics, or R1b in the romans, they all the same enemy, coming somewhere from Caucasus, R1b more interbreeding with orientals while R1a tends to denisovan or similar hominids compositions, anyway they destroy everything germanic until nothing is left, so it is utterly impossible that we are related in any way to these creatures!! And there was I*, I1, and I2 in ancient times, the differentiation 5000 years ago is just the evolution!!

@masterofreality5528 6 месяцев назад

In Serbia, Raska oblast, I1 goes as up to 15%, it's the only region in Serbia that goes that high up

@kristinownby7883 3 месяца назад

My maternal great grandfather was a Silesian German. Silesia was a "cross roads" where the region was ruled by many different empires/countries including Germany until WW2. The region is now part of Poland. Supposedly there were two periods of migrations of Germans into the region - one being when the region became part of Prussia and the earlier in the late Middle Ages when "Germans" were invited to settle in the region (the Ostsiedlung). I have a male cousin who is I-M253 which means my great grandfather was also. My hypothesis is our family were originally from Northern Germany and as the tribes such as the Saxons moved into central Germany, our ancestors were one of the peoples. Then they later migrated into Silesia. I guess the point to my comment is that people of German ancestry in Poland who carry the I-M253 haplogroup, could be from the early migration into Silesia and Pomerania.

@IgorMuravyov-o5r 6 месяцев назад

Its total bs as haplogroup snips could be different for a set haplogroup. Only an extended haplogroup analysis can tell you the routs of migrations of the haplogroup carrier.

@jonahslaton 6 месяцев назад

Simple video based on modern I1/M253 distribution by modern testers: this changes daily but rarely by a large amounts. I stated that origin theory presented was speculated and my opinion - which is based on I1/M253 dna finds and how populations spread across Europe share older SNPs only found in Scandinavia or Germany. But the video was just to show people where the percentage of I1/M253 with other Haplogroups is found from current testers in Europe:

@RPSchonherr 7 месяцев назад

I'm Z138

@michaelmactavish4445 7 месяцев назад

scotland looks like nice place to visit

@imperskiikulak446 7 месяцев назад

Again, the distortion of facts.If Norway and Finland have a high percentage of this haplogroup in humans, but a small number of people live in these countries, for example, 5,568,637 people live in the whole of Finland, and for example, 13,867,347 people live in the northwestern Federal District of Russia, just in this region of Russia this haplogroup has a large percentage,from 15 to 20 percent .In Finland, from 5.5 million of the population, 1.5 million people are carriers of this haplogroup, and in the northwestern federal District of Russia from almost 14 million people, if we take 15 percent of the population, then 2.1 million people live there.And we still do not take the central federal district of Russia, where the carriers of this haplogroup range from 8 to 10 percent, with a population of more than 40 million people, if we take 8 percent in this region, we will get 3.2 million people with such a haplogroup.

@jonahslaton 7 месяцев назад

I’m not sure if the point you’re trying to make? These maps are a little dated but they are the best we have at the moment. There probably could be a plus or minus 1-2 percentage points, but as always, with more people testing the percentages always go up and down.

@finnicpatriot6399 5 месяцев назад

I think you may be a bit slow and dumb.

@dl3472 5 месяцев назад

What a typical russian comment thinking quantity is more important than quality

@imperskiikulak446 5 месяцев назад

@@dl3472 A typical Western jerk who thinks he's worth something.

@spokemagnet19-zs9de 7 месяцев назад

Maps are too small to be very helpful, but the chart/map at 0:56 is a contentious issue, because it is not clear if I-M253 men were driven south from Sweden/Norway by aggressive Corded Ware people towards Denmark, or migrated north from what is now France and Germany. Because this is titled "Modern Distribution," it is not clear what this Denmark-centered map is based on for timeframe. For reference, see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ro5NQTj5eAk.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jSi4t-wb3L4.html posted by Viking Stories.

@jonahslaton 7 месяцев назад

Better viewed on a PC or lap-top and not so much on mobile phones. The I1-M253 founder ancestral line came from Germany/Doggerland or possible around from the Baltics via Finland /Northern Norway. Neither possibilities can be proven at this time. It does appear that the I1-M253 became proficient in Sweden and branched out to Norway, Denmark, Finland and then into the rest of Europe. I suppose the major question is: Were the ancestors of I1-M253 pushed north / south by the corded ware peoples? If so, this makes M253’s ancestors location of origin problematic.

@krunomrki 6 месяцев назад

You can not have answers on such a complex pre-history questions in video format like this, (you can expect answers only from very detail and narrow focused scientific paper). Video like this is more informative, but you can not expect scientific precision. For example, the author didn't mention 9% of I1 among Slovenians, or 8,5% among Poles or 8% among Serbs. For example: 8,5% among Poles is not small number because Poland is a nation of cca. 36 million people; if take that males are some 17 million of population then in Poland around 1 445 000 of males are belonging to I1 paternal haplogroup.

@spokemagnet19-zs9de 6 месяцев назад

@@krunomrkiBut I can expect enough precision to mention the population groups you just mentioned. Your point begs the question: how does less than seven minutes on the topic of a mutation set that is theorized to about ~6,000 - 4,000YBP inform anyone? If it prompts discussion, all to the good, but rehashing a Wikipedia article without the numerous disclaimers found in its sources ignores the fact that virtually no genetic anthropologists agree on these topics.

@jonahslaton 6 месяцев назад

You do understand at the start of the video I stated that this was speculative, and my opinion. I’ve read all of the comments in opposite opinion and they offer no fact based rebuttals? Also, this is a simple quick video about modern DNA distribution as reported by testers taking DNA tests. This changes every day because of the number of testers increasing - but the percentages rarely drop or increase enough to show a big change in each country listed. This is based on percentages! This is a short simplistic video only showing the distribution of modern DNA and what regions it is found with possible roots. Make a detailed video yourself if you don’t want to just scrape the surface as I did - that was not the intention of this video.

@jonahslaton 6 месяцев назад

This video was about modern distribution. It’s sole purpose. Wikipedia? 🙄 I started off saying the origins are speculative and I was voicing my opinion, we can disagree respectfully but making comments like that is what…your opinion? A very simple video of where people with modern I1-M253 are found today within Europe. That was all? Six minutes and thirty-seven seconds. Because its sole purpose is to show the percentage of testers that tested possible for M253. Very simple. Because many people (especially those new to Y Haplogroups l) would like to know where their Y haplogroup is found amongst other peoples today. How hard is that for people to grasp? I believe som of you are asking way TOO much from a six minute simple video attempting to cover modern distribution. I would love to see more in-depth videos on I1/M253 but when I checked, zero of you have made any. For those of you that aren’t biased (or relying on super old stuff like Ken’s) it would be nice to use such knowledge and develop short videos covering the topic, both factual and of course speculation is welcome because it’s in that discourse we can explore the different possibilities of migrations, origins, and so forth.

@repla2992 7 месяцев назад

Totally wrong maps. Turkiye is shown as a J2 dominant country which refers to Persians. 😂 The dominant dna type is Turkic in Turkiye and the persian group is a quite small minority. Who drew these maps, your kid? 😅

@jonahslaton 7 месяцев назад

This video doesn’t mention Turkey or Turkey’s Haplogroups…