Whatever Andrew Jones’ speaker design skills may be, he’s a marketing genius. He’s got every reviewer to talk about his speakers and the MoFi brand (that I’d never heard of).
It's kind of marketing by virtue of experience I think... He has a lot of 'fans' from kef days, and Elac etc. built on that. He's designed a lot of good speakers allegedly. Peter Comeau did the same for wharfedale and mission.
MoFi it's for Mobile fidelity, a very well known record label, popular among physical format audio lovers, for making audiophile reissued of vynils, cds and sacds. So they're no newcomers or anything like that.
Hegel makes excellent products i have h190 witch i had for little over 2 years. Will now pick up a h390 as it is on big sale picking it up later today exciting😊
@@abritishaudiophile7314 have had Hegel h390 for a week. I hope you can review it one day. H190 is a very good amp for sure. But once i plug in h390 i could not belive the difference i was hearing. A big upgrade from h190 in my opinion. Its sound quite a bit bigger and fuller at the lowend, better in the midrange and tweeter to. Little more transparent and more details. Its alla easier to listen a lower volume with good bass. But even when you crank it, its remain calm. I am very intrested in you h30a and p30a review even if i can`t never afford it
Thank you for providing prices. I really don't think a review is complete without prices. I agree, Andrew Jones is a marketing genius. I thought a number of American reviews were a bit over-the-top.
Let's hope Mofi has the guts to let you review them. From the video demonstration at Capital Audiofest I got the impression they were quite forward sounding.
Same here. I'm not sure if I watched the same demonstration video but the treble was piercing. It was probably recorded with an iphone so it could be misleading. I'm waiting for Stereophile's frequency response measurements. Of course, a review by A British Audiophile would be nice too, even though I have the impression that he has a preference for super revealing speakers (AKA speakers that make something like Carpenters sound bad 😆).
Let’s hope that corrugated paper surround holds up over the billions of cycles it will experience. A material is asked here to be both rigid for the cone structure, yet flexible for the surround.
Hi Tarun, those are interesting updates. So for the Hegel we can rest assured that they have made a phenomenal product. Though I think that power amplifier is more suitable for a high end club or an audiophile rock band. I am picturing Woodstock type JBL PA speakers with front loaded horns for base, mids and high (I used to to know the part-numbers of the top of my head) and epic dynamics. It takes me right back to the 80's 😁 I am not sure what to think about the speakers. I would be very interested to see some graphs as well as the cross over network. Coaxial speakers often have a very rough frequency response. Also, you are absolutely right about the Doppler effect and how a 10" woofer can mitigate that. But a 35mm tweeter has quite a mediocre off axis response. There is nothing like a free lunch with speaker building.
@@razisn No offense taken, quite the contrary. It means that these observations and comments made, are quite valid and the horse's mouth is not always needed if you know where to look 🤓
@@razisn Totally agree, Danny only seems to touch speakers his company can provide an "upgrade". His own speakers brands does not sell as much as the other speakers brands he provide an upgrade kit.
Ok, I'll bite. Kenwood, at 76 years old (in japan), has often been over shadowed by its Japanese cousins, pioneer and yamaha. But Kenwood have many firsts, including the first audio high frequency transistor. They pushed that technology to creating DC amps with frequency response up to 600k. Their products L-07C preamp from 79 can compete with current offerings. The L0X-M amps, also DC, also compete with current offerings. I now own four kenwood DC offerings so I am saying that first hand. With an operating frequency response of 100K,the have pace, rythm and timing like no other amp I have ever heard, including current 5 digit amps. They have excellent dynamics. The L-07C has wall to wall sound stage and seemingly infinite & continuous depth. It has detail and speed (preamp and amp) that is natural and not fatiguing. It takes special speakers (carbon fiber, ribbons, etc.) to hear all they do. They had a halo turntable back then, the L07D turntable, which had multilayer anti-resonant plinth construction and multilayered turntable arm construction aimed to minimize resonances. This was back in the 70's. It handily outclassed its Japanese rivals. Currently they get 4 to 5 figure prices. So, that is my answer to your request.
Guttenberg said something about the tweeter being a little bit too bright. And that's after Andrew Jones personally installed the speakers at Guttenberg's place.
I’m not sure about the Mofi, seems the most hyped speaker on the planet and have to agree with Jays Audio Lab. There’s nothing to be found on the cross-over and 4500£ is a lot of money for what you get. For me Andrew Jones is also getting much to slick...
@Justasimplefox My first thought when I saw his video was that if these sell really well and people like them, his business stands to lose out. He feels that more money equalls better sound ie his 500k system..
@@razisn I think you can compare it with an up scale restaurant. When recipes are discussed, nobody says to just taste it and never mind what is in it. No, the restaurant will tell you they know an organic farmer who has these rare breeds of cows that give that special milk. Or, they only buy Italian truffles. You get the idea. If I was ever in the market for 4.5K speakers, I surely would want to know how the cross over network looks like. And at that price I would have no tolerance for electrolytes or iron core inductors (bar transformer types for base).
The fact that there's not much on the crossover. When someone designs the drivers to work together it means, when done right, not much crossover needed.
Always good to get an update or two but I do prefer reviews where you evaluate the actual product. Is the Mofi speaker all hype? It does seem to be getting a bit crazy TBH, the only way to know is a real world review. They may do massive mid bass punch but most people can’t play that loud due to neighbours etc, so do they do all the other audiophile stuff well? They have zero WAF so they will need to be outstanding. Just bear in mind we can all visit a manufacturers website and read the spec sheet, but it’s the opinion of a trusted reviewer that really counts IMHO, (of which there aren’t many) that and a demo at a dealer. Cheers. Rich.
@@abritishaudiophile7314 Hi Tarun, that’s a fair point, I was only trying to explain where I see value in a channel and what info helps me on my journey. Keep up the good work and I hope you can get hold of these products in the near future. Regards. Rich.
I'll be first in line if MoFi comes out with a smaller version. A 16" cabinet is bit too deep for my listening area. Hopefully the smaller version will feature a 8" woofer. Hey, a boy can dream.
Doesn't seem to be anything more than an updated Tannoy with the AJ salesman touch. Old Tannoys were also a bit bright, particularly on axis. I believe his remit was to produce good tight bass which it seems he may have achieved.
Doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement, Tarun. Is that bc you haven't actually heard them yet? I highly respect your opinion and can hardly wait.
My $0.02.. They can’t furnish complete specs on the PA? Assumption: about 350W/Ch in stereo w/ 8 ohm loads and full freq. bandwidth? They should publish complete specs, including channel separation in dB. 👨🏻
I think some in the comments might be on Andrew Jones payroll,…or just fanboys lol. Will listen to these MoFi speakers at some point with interest as I have always liked the idea of a single driver speaker (played around with the E J Jordan Eikona drive unit in a transmission line concrete cabinet before with great results). Yet to find an all in one driver speaker design that works for me. Another interesting design Tarun if you can ever review a pair is the Sibelius by Pearl Acoustics. Note: am aware of the difference between a crossover-less all-in-one driver vs a dual concentric that has a crossover 😉
Its interesting how Hegel doesn't specify pre and power amp input/output impendences and gains, so obviously they're not to be sold separately. Strange.
I would mix and match Hegel Pre/power amps. I think the gain on the preamp is low (might even be unity gain) and it is high on the power amp (circa 40dB). I remember something along those lines but can be sure 😊
Yes, please compare them with each other when you receive the Mofi. I take this opportunity to wish you a merry Christmas and a good year 2023. Thank you
Hi Tarun, I enjoyed your intro to these two products. Here’s a thought. Andrew Jones has made his name several times over with designs that broadly followed the conventional layout. He needed to move up market from his last gig in order to fit with the MoFi premium proposition. What would have happened if his new box looked like his previous efforts? Unless it was spectacularly better, it would be deemed a rip off. So, enter a radical new design concept which has been adopted by only a few competitors, some of whom already occupy the premium market segment. Do I think AJ knows his stuff? Certainly. Do I think he’s designed his best loudspeaker of a new genre first time of trying? I somehow doubt it. Either this speaker turns out to be a game changer, and I can take my cynical old carcass and sit dribbling in the corner as my punishment. Or it will be only okay and Andrew will spend the next five years fixing it. I await your verdict with baited breath. On the amps, I expect them to be capable felling trees at fifty yards whilst making music that will cause angels to descend from Heaven. Only minuscule regret is their insistence in following the NAD school of design for budget amps. There’s a fine line between simple style and being plain dull. I look forward to part 2. Cheers, Mark.
*Mofi speaker* Thinking, it's a normal good speaker in a 1000-2000 $ range. My problem is, it is produced in China and for that, the price tag of 3.800$ is way to much☝🏻 It's good marketing...okay, but not more🤗
I hope you change your mind and bypass reviewing the MOFI Sourcepoint 10, the company can't be trusted (due to the vinyl scandal) - it's best they receive industry ostracism.
There is always redemption. I think they will have to prove them self. As long as these speakers are reviewed in an honest way, I see no problem. Having said that, Andrew Jones is the Gordon Ramsay of speaker design. So I am having some doubts if some reviewers may be intimidated.
There are only but a handful demo videos of the mofi SP 10 spks & so far i noticed the mid & highs of AJ’s new spk seem pretty good. However, due to the corrugated surround of the 10in woofer, the bass does not go deep but impact & bass dynamics still pretty strong. So that makes for bass that is tight but not supple. The bass will be very dry & one note just like PA spks. PA spks mostly hv corrugated surround to make them more robust & limit cone excursion but the resultant bass is very dry & lacks suppleness. I was wondering why doesn’t AJ use an inverted butyl rubber surround instead of that corrugated surround?
It could be an epic speaker but I won't recommend supporting such shitty company. Love andrew wish he worked with a better brand. What they did with their customers & the whole community this is exactly what they had to do to steel even more money.
