Mogadishu- GSG-9 Freeing the hostages 

Apart from when they killed a ton of the Red Army Faction

@@fivesageger6651 Wolfgang Grams commited suicide. It‘s meanwhile 100 procent evidented.

dessen Segen brauchen die nicht! Das machen die schon selber!

​@@heppoify49 stimmt schon. Glaube diese Männer haben so viel drauf dass ein segen ein ehr Risiko wäre

Psychisch kranke Einzeltäter? Hat nichts mit der Religion zu tun?🤯🤯

Na-im Gegensatz zu den Amis werden die bei uns ja auch ausgebildet

@@Paddymysterio1 Ich würde das swat team der USA nicht als unausgeblidet bezeichnen

​@@LS-Moto die werden trainiert alles zu töten was sich bewegt das ist keine ausbilung

The GSG-9 did not ask for advice. The SAS offered help to desperate politicans of the the German interiour ministry wich welcomed any consulting. The GSG-9 itself was not asked. A SAS man introduced the GSG-9 leader (Wegner) a SAS strategy, but Wegner rejected the strategy wich included the use of stun grenades. The stun grenades could by Wegners opinion cause a fire and also panic in the plane. With panicking passengers there would have been no room for action of the special forces.

An SAS man threw the stun grenade that blinded those in the cockpit.

@@alexanderchan76 Nope, no SAS have been involved by this operation. There was also no stun grenade involved, this idea was rejected by the leader of the GSG9 team. The hostages have been overpured with hard alcohol and the alcohol could have been inflamed by stun granades.

@@alexanderchan76 It wasnt a stun granade and no SAS took part in the operation, it was simply an explosion that was set at around 200m far from the plane, as a distraction so that the terrorists would look to the front of the the plane and outside the cockpit while the GSG9 men storm the plane, btw the plane wasnt only entered via the doors like you see in the video.

A SAS Sergeant led the raid, and he also entered the aircraft.....

They only shot about 6 times ever I belive

@@cyma1178 that is a myth - they only shot LETHAL 6 times Their overall shot count is much higher Its still mad impressive though

@@Di3cy Police Units are better at stuff like that

American Police. 1 shot = 3 innocent civilians.

Name?

Men had balls back then. It was more the rule than the exception. Unfortunately, in today's world not so much.

Facts.

wenn sie die echte operation feuerzauber gezeigt hätten dann wäre das für die grenzschutzgruppe jetzt nicht mehr so einfach

@@drucker-herum-treiber wurde nicht ein GSG9 Mitglied angeschossen? Das ist der einzige Fehler der mir jetzt aufgefallen ist.

@@meganoob12 Genau. Einer derjenigen, die die vorderen Türen beim Sturm öffneten, hatte einen Halsdurchschuss abbekommen. Das einzig andere, was aus den Interviews hervorging war, dass Wegener selbst beim Sturm in der Maschine war und einen Schusswechsel mit dem Attentäter hatte, der die Handgranate fallen ließ. Hier steht er "nur" unter dem Flieger und hält Funkkontakt.

wie heisste der film?

@@chiko32100 Mogadishu

Oh yes....thankfully back to old efficiency after that horrible debacle in Munich...so that stuff like that won't happen again.

The American Crusader oh yes... luckily, this was the beginning of the end of RAF terror. It was a good decision not to negotiate with the terrorists

Well Munich was a disaster, they tried fo free the hostages with traffic cops, no special unit existed back then and the help the Bundeswehr offered was rejected due to some ridiculous laws which said the Bundeswehr must not be used at home.And last but not least it was state controlled event not federal cos the Bavarians insisted on it and they had the law on their side, back then so the Federel Government backed of.After that disaster though, the Bavarians had no qualms letting the Federal Government deal with the blowback

it's actually what happened, GSG9 is an elite SWAT team created to counter these incidents

@Anonym Please Well I must tell that Munich changed everything. Today it would be in the hands of the federal government and the GSG9 (a federal police unit) would be tasked with the solution

THis was the first public appearance of them, they were litterally building the unit from scratch and didnt have much in the way of specialised equipment at the time.

@@JohnDoe-kv3cm also it was 1977. "swat gear" came much later

Rainbow Six.. the old ones, how much i cried over losing agents in there. Im not a fan of using reserve units when you can have the top guys on the go. He

allah is gay

@@ang47 shut up u pig

Thank you for saying that! 💌

That tense moment occurred because the German government had lied to the Somali government by saying that all terrorists were German, which they knew was not true of course. The Somalis were a bit pissed off because they feared problems with Arab countries and especially Arab terrorist groups who might have taken revenge against them. Somalia is also Muslim country you have to know. So the information about the origin of the terrorists was not so irrelevant at all in diplomatic terms.

... der auch vollkommen gerechtfertigt war. Es leben die Kameraden der GSG 9 und ihr unvergessener Kommandeur Ulrich Wegener!

Auch eine andere Sache wurde unterschlagen und bis heute wenig bekannt. Die Somalis umstellten das Flugzeug der GSG9 als diese heimreisen wollten. Wegner lies darauf auch die GSG9 bewaffnet vors Flugzeug positionieren und standen sich gegenüber. Die Somalis sahen sich mit den PLO Terroristen verbündet. Deutschland zahlte später reichlich Entwickelungshilfe ( 30 Millionen)

@@Marvel66666 Danke für die Info.

@@Marvel66666 Interessant. Hast du dazu zufällig eine Quelle parat? Finde leider nichts im Netz. Danke. :-)

@@matzemuller6468 Bereits vorher sympathisierten die Somalis mit den Terroristen und wollten die GSG9 nicht landen lassen, versperrten mit Tankwagen die Landebahn. Laut Lufthansa Vorstand damals W. Utter, lies man für Entwickelungshilfe und ein neues deutsches Flughafenfeuerwehrfahrzeug die GSG 9 dann doch kurzfristig landen. Nach der Befreiung schwenkten die Somalis erneut um 9: 00 min watch?v=G3AX5vXpY5c .

Well thank you but they wouldn't do it today anymore, would they? Today Somalia is a failed state rife with terrorists pack.Sadly

now is not fail state it is recovering from civil war. we hope we shall stand our feet sooner.. somalia is rich country u may end up in somalia one day searching jobs..

Haha, I like your sense of humour.I tell you what, I and the rest of the world we would be content if Somalia would become a proper state again and kicked out the whole bunch of terrorists currently residing there.Good luck with that

sooner u will see it.

Yes we'll see

Conrad Dev I have seen Deadliest Warrior, and still unsure how accurate the results were when paired up against S.W.A.T. But still, respect for GSG9 in “from what I heard of” a successful hostage situation

The guy who said this, is Mr. Dieter Fox.

Die waren in hamburg

Ja die waren in Hamburg und die Deppen von Politikern haben den Einsatzbefehl nicht gegeben. Erst als die Cobra dann das eine Haus klar gemacht hat, war Ruhe im Schiff. Die hätten sofort mit 20 SEK Beamten diese bekloppte Rote Flora und den Schwarzen Block auseinandernehmen sollen.

Ja

It's Wegener, my friend

Gibts in voller Länge hier auf YT:)

Lohnt sich wirklich

@@superkent2245 wie heißt der?

@@derlord2186 Mogadischu

@@superkent2245 danke bro

Actually it was realistic.One of the GSG-9 members remembered the moment, he told the grenade this greanede wasn't in a steel shell like it's supposed to be so there were no shrapnells only the explosiv charge.Otherewise there would have been some dead people and a lot injured

Mogadischu is the name of the movie. www.imdb.com/title/tt1153112/

You're right

@@tigercat5439 Ahh right. I literally came here after watching a deadliest warrior episode. GSG 9 v Swat lmao

iiCharlie they didn‘t even have enough helmets for this operation 🙈 Because they never expected to operate with such a large unit

@@xiCh4rlie Worst crap ever made!

It is actually understandable if you only know English. There are sub titles of speech in English and most of talking on plane is in English. Interesting film that co pilot really did well he said in interview he had no sleep at all during the hijack. yet still managed to safely fly and land the plane after a sand landing. With added presure of seeing the captain killed and being the only pilot. Seriously anyone would of expected anyone under so much presure to mess up.

Ahornblatt2000 The plane came back a few days ago

Yes I know.Its last place will be in an aeronautical museum

+Tom Friel Police Academy 12; Shenanigans In Somalia!

das todespiel tv produktion

No sha wasn't! Why?

@@Ahornblatt2000 She was shot in center mass, but still fired back.

There were two chicks with the same Che shirt.One got shot center mass and the other in the toilet

It’s true. There’s original footage where they carry her away in a stretcher, she is bleeding from her body, but survived

Mogadischu, wie es da oben steht

@@Ahornblatt2000 OK wow.... Danke

Yep, it is. It's found its way back to Germany after it was discoverd on some airplane graveyard in Brasilien

If you want to know what this movie is about then google "German Autumn" and you get the facts

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zekiahepic you can look up „Landshut hijacking“ (the name of the plane)

It did explode but it was selfmade therefore it did very low damage

@@Ba-gb4br it didnt explode...ive seen original Interviews and reports

IT did. In Interviews with the gsg9 members in a Doku. They said that The granade wasnt wearing splitter or something, and because of that, IT didnt made much damage. Iam german and Saw 2 Dokus and Interviews about it

@@klecksy laber kein scheiss bei der granate handelte es sich um eine sovietische F1 splittergranate eine der höchstgeladenenen granaten die im umlauf sind die stweardess sas genau neben dem ding und starrte es 5 sekunden an und war dann gott froh als nix passierte

@@tavish4699 junge schau dir die Dokus dazu am bevor du laberst

Steht's doch.Es heißt Mogadischu 2008

Superflotte Fickmütter 4

@@DarkPsy xddd

Ja und wieso nicht? Was habes sie für eine Waffe gehabt damals?

Revolver sind aber zuverlässiger

@@justinf.3293 und haben meist ne viel zu hohe durchschlagskraft in kombination mit geringerer kadenz und hohem rückstoß - ausserdem ist das nachladen unglaublich ineffektiv

@@Ahornblatt2000 ganz normale pistolen - revolver sind in den meisten armeen nichtmehr verwendet und bei den meisten SpezKr nie verwendet worden. Die spezifikationen sind, wie bereits in meinem anderen kommentar erwähnt, einfach ungünstig

@@Di3cy Auf manchen Fotes is aber Wegner zu sehen mit einen Revolver an seiner Hüfte

What confuses you, mate? That is the GSG9! They looked that way back then

@@Ahornblatt2000 Yeah I know lol I'm saying I only clicked because I saw the GSG-9, didn't expect any movie. What's going on in this scene confuses me haha

@@Ahornblatt2000 ohhhhh alright thanks for explaining👍

@@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 You're welcome, mate!

Flashbangs

​@@zulugu6465in real life they probably did wear them. stupidity kills.

Deckung

I assume camouflage; not to show that there is a military unit and a GERMAN unit in Somalia

All nothing much of interest just the normal hijacker lingo Do this or I kill you, do that or I shoot you, I kill if........, Shut up or we'll burn you.Back then in the 70s there wasn't so much Allahu Akhbar that came later

@@Ahornblatt2000 They where communist not islamist that was the difference

@@felixbeutin9530 First read then write

@@Ahornblatt2000 It was a response to your last sentence. There wasn't so much allahu akbar because they wheren't religously motivated

@@felixbeutin9530 Tomato, potato, man!

But it's true.It happened in 1977 back then the special units didn't have the high tech stuff they have nowadays.Even the armor vests, today standard were new high tech stuff back then

Ahornblatt2000 Cool, thanks man!

Illuminati Confirmed You're welcome

Using only a standard armor vest and a 6 shot .38spl/357 mag. revolvers 👍

It happened back in the 70s so I think it might be true

mp5s were designed in the late 60s so I would assume they did, being a german design and produced gun this happened in the 70s right?

@@qk-tb2df Right it happened 1977

Yes, they did. But after this operation - no more. Not enough rate of fire etc.

"Not enough rate of fire " I highly doubt that would be the reason, the mp5 has great ROF (but a little on the higher end) the main reason is more likely to be that there is no reason to take handgun cartridges and put them in a rifle when you can just use rifle cartridges.............

Abdiweli Ibrahim Hassan thank you somalia.

@@nikitaeurope as a Somali person we must thank to Germany and Angel Melkal and all Germany people. Because Germany isn't like USA. ❤ Germany From Mogadishu. 🙏🙏🙏

@@AbdirizakHAdan Thank you for your very positive message. Sorry for getting so aggressive. It is just a little weird to me that people tend to want the praise of other peoples accomplishments but when things go wrong they want nothing to do with it. This action could have easily gone wrong and in that case no one would have wanted the blaim. Wagner and his team had practiced this type of rescue missions over 900 times in the previous 2 years. So wat seams like a miracle is actually the result of very hard work and being well prepared. And the Somali police / Army did help by lighting a fire near the tower to confuse the hijackers right before the Germans stormed the ✈ plane. Anyway thank you very much for your positivity. Totally understandable that you might see it different but Merkel is no Angel. She is the worst Chancellor that Germany has ever had. She is corrupt and very incompetent. And sadly she is damaging the country with her stupidity. 😃

fuck somalia

Noone has to thank your pathetic country for anything

because that is what they used at that time, in 1977, they went in with standard body armor and a 6 shot revolver each. They used only pritty basic stuff back then.

Yes back then, the RAF formed a clear counterweight. Back then, normal society did not want to be radical left. Now in peacetime they join the antifa because they are bored and ignore the past.These people are more privileged than ever, but do not appreciate it and want to rebel.

scipio 88 Weil Sie wissen ,dass Sie schlechter dran wären ,wenn eine rechte Regierung regieren würde.

@@hentrow7778 naja

@@hentrow7778 lol

@@hentrow7778 ja

Weil es Dummkopf wie dich gibt.

You you're right!

Merkil is a traitor

@@Ahornblatt2000 armer trottel

And what you failed to mention is that the SAS suggested to storm through only one door to prevent friendly fire but Wegener hat much confidence in his guys and they went through multiple doors simultanously. But thanks for the flash bangs they were really cutting edge back then. And no SAS took part, Wegener mentioned 1000 times

Once again there were no SAS operators, how often do I have to tell it? Wegner himself said it so many times there were no SAS guys charging the plane, they just lend some blend grenades to the Germans.Blend grenades were cutting edge back then

ok

@@Ahornblatt2000 Tu mir einen Gefallen und lese dir die Interviews von Wegener zu dem Thema noch mal gut durch. Die SAS hatte Blendgranaten angeboten und Wegener hat sich entschieden das er die gar nicht wollte. Man sieht doch ganz deutlich das hier nirgendwo eine Blendgranate benutzt wird. Die SAS hatte ausserdem Ideen eingebracht wie man denn vorgehen könnte oder sollte. Auch die Ideen der SAS hat Wegener abgelehnt und sich für seine eigene Taktik entschieden. Das heißt die GSG9 und die SAS waren damals miteinander im Gespräch. Die GSG9 war noch ganz neu und hat wahrscheinlich gerade mal 2 Jahre existiert. Das man dann gerne mit Kollegen im Ausland kommuniziert und sich liebend gerne anhört wie andere Dienste mit so einer Situation umgehen finde ich eine logische Sache. Aber dieses Getöse das ein Teil des Erfolgs irgendwie mit der SAS zu tun hätte ist schon reichlich lächerlich. Es ist sehr wahrscheinlich das die GSG9 auch regelmäßigen Kontakt hatte mit anderen ausländischen Diensten. Ziemlich sicher sogar mit den Israelis. Entebbe war gerade mal 1,5 Jahre her und davon konnte man sehr viel lernen. Kein anderer Dienst oder Land macht sich jedoch so lächerlich als die Engländer mit ihrem SAS Gedöns was man ständig einbauen will obwohl die Leute gar nichts damit zu tun hatten. Erfolg hatte viele Väter. Weil die Aktion perfekt verlaufen ist will man mitgeholfen haben. Wenn die Aktion ein Disaster geworden wäre dann würde kein Engländer auf den Gedanken kommen zu erzählen die SAS hätte irgendwie mitgeholfen und es läge bestimmt daran das man die Ideen und Vorschläge der SAS befolgt hat. Übrigens hat Stauffenberg für sein Attentat auf Hitler im Juni 1944 Englischen Sprengstoff mit einer ungewöhnlichen Art von Zündung verwendet. Wie toll das geklappt hat wissen wir ja alle. Da kommt doch bisher niemand in England auf den Gedanken das Attentat wäre so enorm in die Hose gegangen weil der englische Sprengstoff totaler Mist war. Auf jeden Fall hat die deutsche Armee keinen Grund um englisches Material zu benutzen. Als ob Deutschland nicht selber im Stande wäre um funktionierenden Sprengstoff zu produzieren oder eigene Ideen zu entwickeln. Diese Übereifrigkeit mit der die Engländer die SAS mit einbauen wollen ist reichlich lächerlich.

@@nikitaeurope Warum erzählst Du mir das? Sag das der Die-SAS-war-da-Brigade

@@Ahornblatt2000 Weil ich ganz einfach mit dir kommunizieren wollte und nicht mit denen. Ich mag es das du dir die Zeit nimmst um denen die korrekte Information bei zu bringen, aber es gibt im Netz sehr viele Leute wo man Hundert mal hintereinander die korrekte Info ausführlich beschreiben kann und die es ganz einfach nicht kapieren wollen. Ich stecke da meine Zeit nicht rein wenn ich das Gefühl habe ich müsste mit Idioten diskutieren die eine Situation gar nicht begreifen wollen sondern steifköpfig drauf beharren das ihr Märchen die richtige Version sein muss. Das erinnert mich sehr an Sawsan Chebli die einen US Amerikaner dessen Eltern christliche Kopten sind die aus Ägypten fliehen mussten weil Sie wegen ihrer christlichen Religion verfolgt wurden, zum grossen Stolz für die gesamte islamische Welt erklärt weil er einen Oscar gewonnen hat für die Rolle von Freddy Mercury in Bohemian Rapsody. Sich mit den Federn von anderer Leute Arbeit schmücken zu wollen ist echt ein ganz beschissenes Niveau. Ich glaube nicht daran das lange Diskussionen mit solchen Leuten etwas bringen. Jemand der es nicht begreifen will wenn man ihm die korrekte Version darlegt der wird es auch nicht begreifen wollen wenn man ihm 100 Mal die korrekte Version vorhält. Also ich kommuniziere dann lieber mit jemand der eine ähnliche Meinung hat. Also du solltest dich nicht angegriffen fühlen wenn Leute ganz einfach mit dir quatschen wollen. Wie gesagt Respekt für jeden der diesen Dumbos die korrekte Version erklärt aber es gibt auch Leute wo das ganz einfach Zeitverschwendung ist.

Like I already said-Wegener himself told that there were no SAS man involved in storming the plane. He said they met 2-3 days before where they were shown the blend grenades which had been all the rage by then, by the SAS, which he took. He also said that the SAS advised him to storm the plane only through one door in order to prevent friendly fire but Wegner deceided otherwise going in through all doors simultanously. If the SAS had taken part they would have been credited with it, I mean it's not something you have to keep secret when you help to secure some innocent civilians

@@Ahornblatt2000 yeah I agree with your explanation I think I was just trying to say there is supported evidence of the other explanation but it looks like the author got some things messed up. Good thing we have the internet today so we can cross reference and help each other out.

@@maxconing812 Even Frederick Forsythe wrote in one of his books that the SAS not only took part but went in point. But it is not true

+George Maverick Failed? That was a success.No hostages killed except for the Pilot who was shot day of two before, and all terrorists were shot, three of them deadly.So what do you want? Do you know what Wegner said about the SAS? SAS insisted that the GSG-9 only uses 1 door when charging because of friendly fire but Wegner let his boys charge through all doors and that was key for the success

Ahornblatt2000 SAS did not board the plane. But one terrorist got killed by an SAS trooper named BARRY DAVIES. God rest his soul.

George Maverick It is not known if the SAS even took part in the action. And they never trained the GSG9.

Lol SAS only provided the flashbangs are the guys who built the guns heroes now because they provided them to GSG9?

+Steve Mario If he didn't board the plane how could he kill one of the terrorists?There were no SAS-members in the assault team, Wegner has always denied it.I believe it's Frederick Forsyth fault, he wrote in one of his novels that 2 SAS man went in, even first but that is bullshit.I don't get why you guys insist so hard on that detail.Don't you think the German government wouldn't not thank your government and the SAS openly?

Troll somewhere else.

SAS again! Oh man that is a legend There were no SAS guys present they met them day or two before they stormed.The SAS gave them the flashbangs but I don't know if was used within the carrier or outside.Wegnere even disregarded their advice to go through only one door, he chose to go through all doors simultanously

Looking back on it yes they would have advised it but still why couldn’t they do it on there own

Young Pappy none of the gsg9 Would have been experienced enough but I may be wrong

Young Pappy none of the gsg9 Would have been experienced enough but I may be wrong

Young Pappy none of the gsg9 Would have been experienced enough but I may be wrong

Young Pappy you don’t start of with massive hi jacked plane

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