That debate was so bad, Craig didn’t even believe in the normal trinity he didn’t even believe Jesus was begotten and then. Mono hijab compared the trinity to a pregnant woman😂
If increasing the sources of the heat doesn't create a bigger flame, then your food shouldn't cook faster when you turn up the stove. Maybe you should block all the holes in your stove top except one. Only one should be enough.
@@delistoyerSure but analogies aren't supposed to be taken as one to one equivocations. The candle analogy proves that two different sources who each have the ability to create a specific effect when put together can still create the exact same quantitative and qualitative effect as they can on their own. Another fun enology is batteries connected in parallel deliver similar voltages all an all Mohammad hijab had very low arguments and clearly was aiming for the low hanging fruit of the audience who only think at surface level.
@@delistoyerSure but analogies aren't supposed to be taken as one to one equivocations. The candle analogy proves that two different sources who each have the ability to create a specific effect when put together can still create the exact same quantitative and qualitative effect as they can on their own. Another fun enology is batteries connected in parallel deliver similar voltages all an all Mohammad hijab had very low arguments and clearly was aiming for the low hanging fruit of the audience who only think at surface level. 😅
@@platorsokoli1706 It does. 1 Corinthians 7:36 uses the word hyperakmos in reference to a female. In this case, it’s a young woman who’s engaged to be married. Hyperakmos is translated as “past her youth” (NASB), past “the flower of her age” (KJV), or “past marriageable age” (CSB). The word literally means “ripe,” a common euphemism in many cultures for describing a woman’s capability for bearing children.
@@platorsokoli1706 The Islamic PDF File verse. Muhammads cousin (The greatest explainer of quran) explains quran 65:4! - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of their young age, their waiting period is three months. - If any doubts about Ibn Abbas reliability ----- Sunan Ibn Majah 166. Grade Sahih. It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said: "The Messenger of Allah embraced me and said: 'O Allah, teach him wisdom and the (correct) interpretation of the Book.'" As Ibn Abbas confirms, this verse is clearly including prepubescents.
I support you brother but he meant two flame sources put together will make the one bigger. He clearly says two sources together will make one big flame.. this is a bad video that won't support the Christian side
Both Flames have the same essence so you have one essence Hijab. The essence of both match flames is the same so both are 100% responsible for lighting the candle.
Even after this well demonstrated example of causal over determination Hijab and his fanboys still would not get it. All members or persons of the trinity was active in creation not partially active but fully active in creation.. Hijab really should take lessons on philosophy.
Even ChatGPT gets this: Q: If I bring the flame of two candles together, is it generating more heat than just one of them? A: Yes, bringing the flame of two candles together will generate more heat than a single flame, but the increase isn’t exactly double. The flames will merge, and since the heat from both candles is concentrated in the same area, it will feel hotter. However, the combined flame will still be constrained by the surrounding environment's ability to dissipate heat, so it won't scale linearly with the number of flames. Think of it like two small heating elements next to each other-they combine to create a larger hotspot, but the overall heat generation isn’t exactly the sum of the two independently.
Q: when you combine the flame of two matches does it get bigger? ChatGpt answer: Yes, when you combine the flames of two matches, the flame typically gets bigger. This happens because the heat and fuel from each flame merge, creating a larger, more intense flame. The combined heat increases the combustion process, which results in a larger and brighter flame. However, the size of the flame will also depend on the amount of available fuel (in this case, the wood of the matches) and the surrounding oxygen. You're wrong siiig.
Yo I actually laughed, I’m not muslim but I understand what hijab was saying. If you take a match with a flame and take another match with a flame and put them together next to each other you will get a bigger flame. This is madness siig. Can’t believe you posted this.
Making it, even worse, his response wasn’t even relevant, that example was employed by WLC to demonstrated the concept of over-determination, if both P and Q causes R and the 2 of them occurs, it is utter nonsense to state that P and Q contributed to causing R together, rather it is that both P and Q caused R.
not a sufficient response!! Causal overdeterminism here entails that 2 causes have the same identical effect logically. So if X and Y are the 2 causes and Z is the effect, there would be no logical distinction between the effects. One way of approaching this is by saying that when you add 2 flames together, the resultant fire is caused by a partial combination of the combustion of the 2 flames. So the resultant flame created is taking parts from both the 2 inital flames causing. You would then need to admit that the father and son partially created the universe adding elements from both wills!! If Y contributed something extra to X causing (like fire B making the turbulent flow higher or When you put two flames close together, you're basically reducing the surface area over which they can lose their heat), then the effects aren't logically identical. Therefore this analogy fails. You cannot claim then the father and son 100 % equally caused the universe without now admitting one of them maybe added something extra to it.
@@SIIIG1Chat GPT: Can you explain scientifically what happens if you take two candles to light a flame, will it be a bigger flame. Answer: When you take two candles and bring their flames together, the flame does indeed appear to become larger, but it’s important to understand what’s happening scientifically. 1. Combining Heat Sources: Each candle flame is a result of heat produced by the combustion of wax. When you bring two flames together, the heat from both flames combines, increasing the temperature in the immediate area. This can cause the wax vapor (which is the fuel for the flame) from both candles to combust more intensely, which results in a larger flame. 2. Oxygen Supply: Flames need oxygen to continue burning. When two flames come together, they will initially merge into one larger flame, but the size of the flame is still dependent on the amount of oxygen available in the air. If there is sufficient oxygen, the flame will stay larger. However, if the oxygen supply is limited, the flame may not stay large for long, or it may even shrink or extinguish if starved of oxygen. 3. Wax as Fuel: The size of the flame is also governed by the amount of wax being vaporized and burned. By bringing two flames together, the combined heat can cause more wax to melt and vaporize at once, briefly sustaining a larger flame. However, the wicks of each candle still control how much wax is drawn into the flame. So while you may have a temporarily larger flame, it won’t be indefinitely bigger unless you have a larger fuel supply. 4. Thermodynamics: The increase in flame size is also a result of basic principles of thermodynamics. When you bring two sources of energy (heat in this case) together, the combined energy raises the overall temperature and sustains a larger reaction. The hotter the area, the more vigorous the combustion reaction, hence the larger flame. Conclusion: Bringing two candle flames together does create a larger flame because of the combined heat and combustion reactions. However, the long-term size of the flame depends on oxygen availability and the fuel (wax) supply from the candles.
@@SIIIG1 Chat GPT: When you take two candles and bring their flames together, the flame does indeed appear to become larger, but it’s important to understand what’s happening scientifically. 1. Combining Heat Sources: Each candle flame is a result of heat produced by the combustion of wax. When you bring two flames together, the heat from both flames combines, increasing the temperature in the immediate area. This can cause the wax vapor (which is the fuel for the flame) from both candles to combust more intensely, which results in a larger flame. 2. Oxygen Supply: Flames need oxygen to continue burning. When two flames come together, they will initially merge into one larger flame, but the size of the flame is still dependent on the amount of oxygen available in the air. If there is sufficient oxygen, the flame will stay larger. However, if the oxygen supply is limited, the flame may not stay large for long, or it may even shrink or extinguish if starved of oxygen. 3. Wax as Fuel: The size of the flame is also governed by the amount of wax being vaporized and burned. By bringing two flames together, the combined heat can cause more wax to melt and vaporize at once, briefly sustaining a larger flame. However, the wicks of each candle still control how much wax is drawn into the flame. So while you may have a temporarily larger flame, it won’t be indefinitely bigger unless you have a larger fuel supply. 4. Thermodynamics: The increase in flame size is also a result of basic principles of thermodynamics. When you bring two sources of energy (heat in this case) together, the combined energy raises the overall temperature and sustains a larger reaction. The hotter the area, the more vigorous the combustion reaction, hence the larger flame. Conclusion: Bringing two candle flames together does create a larger flame because of the combined heat and combustion reactions. However, the long-term size of the flame depends on oxygen availability and the fuel (wax) supply from the candles.
@@SIIIG1 ChatGPT: Can you explain scientifically what happens if you take two candles to light a flame, will it be a bigger flame. Answer: When two candle flames combine, the heat and fuel increase, creating a larger flame, but it’s limited by oxygen and wax availability.
1+1+1 = 3 persons Father , Son , Holy Spirit Father + Son + Holy Spirit = One God This would be a more honest representation of what Christians believe.
My goodness, you proved his point when you put the 2 matches together & it was indeed abigger flane🙆🏾♂️ you people don't even believe this malarkey but God will judge you in the end
Dude, that’s not the argument that the Muslim was responding to the argument was if you take one match to a candle and you take two matches to a separate candle the separate candle with two matches would have a bigger flame, which is wrong. Listen to what Craig said, because the Muslim is responding to what he said.😂
@@RaniyaMinor no lmao the argument was that 2 equal flames , both sufficient came together to create 1 candle in unison so while the 2 matches are together is the analogy to trinity.. hijab is saying that the fact that they came together has increased the total amount of power that God has, the way the 2 matches make a bigger which is illogical since God is all powerful! Jeez well may Allah have mercy on you guys, it's clear you don't have much going on upstairs so it's not your fault really
The debate was hours long, you just choose the best straw man from it and tried to refute it Even worse, it wasn't a straw man, you just didn't understand him. What he was trying to say is more fuel, more flame. Not more than one flame
I listened to hijab, watched your video, then listened to him again just to make sure you're testing what he said. He did not make any claims that two fire will make one candle burst as a big flame (seriously that's so elementary that it's not even an argument), he was speaking in perspective to what the other person/source provided. But of course, we will just take 15 second clips and revolve the man's whole life around it innit?
To be clear: Craig’s example: two separate candles both light a wick (a third unlit candle). Both are causally responsible for lighting the flame and don’t produce a bigger flame, neither are they co creators in producing said flame. Hijab’s response to that specific example: “YU WIL HAF A BIGGA 🔥”
This is a complete misrepresentation. You just don’t get it. They both aren’t EACH FULLY the cause for the flame. This went over your head. The video is a complete misrepresentation. That’s why the churches are empty. The flames together are bigger and have more energy. There are not each fully the cause. Hijab is right.
That’s true. They focus on irrelevant analogies or arguments. But if we were to entertain this , we could ask if one match was enough to light the flame .Wouldn’t 2 be redundant? To light the same flame ? Is God redundant now as well ?
@@MGM783 You are completely right. They always do this. That’s why they make these silly videos. They try to portray themselves as winners for their sheep followers instead of dealing with the valid logical objections against their heretical analogies.
Yeah, you’re a little slow. The argument that your Muslim dude was responding to was that two matches won’t make the flame of a candle. It’s lighting bigger, which is true.😂
