Silvia B. She also has the right to devote her life to helping her mother. That’s the beauty of America, we’re free to do what we want, regardless of if others think it’s right or not.
Samantha Williams that’s my grandma she laid in bed until her legs didn’t work she just lays their and screams at my mom because she helps her I’m 12 and just wanna do fun things with my grandma but I can’t I love her she is nice but sometimes she yells at me for dumb reasons my other grandma died of brain cancer but I hope I can get my grandma out of her bed one day
Omg. I know... my sisters in laws they are all just not doing nothing and depending on my brothers... and i cant help but to think of what will happen if they all get divorced? They will stay with nothing. Cause my brothers are the ones that make and have the money. I just think of all the wasted time. They dont have to work but at least they could be studying or something to prepare them for the World . Cause it might not last forever.
Richgirl Famous TAROT yeah that’s true. Some women LIVE to “take care of the home” and be homemakers. I could never. I like having control over my own life. I can’t depend on someone else. I would love have an equal household
Ikr, in India, literally many of my friends got married early at 21 or 22 and are fully dependent on their husbands and people here consider it a pride, you know like get a job or get married. When we are searching or studying for jobs, it means that we are really dumb and lazy and that girl who got married gets alot of applause!!!😑
@@evelynanderson6016 I would understand her scenario if she was actually sick, but she's not diagnosed (I think she WebMDed herself) because if she had a diagnosis, she'd be able to collect disability. And if her practitioner believed her, she would have been directly referred to a specialist. I'm just baffled by her. She "wants" to get better, but she doesn't show it. My heart goes out to those with this condition who really are suffering, but I don't think this woman is one of those people.
Shes depressed off the divorce I've seen people break down after seperation from a spouse educated people who worked so hard in life to only drown after a seperation
I agree. as someone who's been diagnosed with depression, I completely get the lack of motivation and physical fatigue. But, depression is no excuse to burden your daughter and guilt trip her when she wants to live out her own life.
I’m a quadriplegic for 33 years since I was a sophomore in high school. I live independently and can’t understand how people like her choose to mooch off of others instead of getting that rewarding feeling associated with success one gets from overcoming adversity. Smh very sad
She’s lonely.... her husband left her, her children were growing up & about to leave her .... This is nothing more then a lonely woman DESPERATE to never be alone - so she forced her daughter to support her the way a spouse would 😬😬😬 Financially. Emotionally. Physically Most “caregiving” situation - the person in need of care have some type of income of their own ... she was a stay @ home Mom who lost her husband’s income & decided to leech of her child.
I’d rather be a quadriplegic than have EDS. It’s extremely disabling. I’d honestly rather have cancer so if I beat it the pain would go away. This is for life and it’s degenerative. I can’t even use a knife and fork.
My mom has pancreatic cancer and cries when she has to have help walking to the kitchen/restroom because she feels bad having to have help. I can’t imagine having a mother that is so unapologetically manipulative
😂 I love how Dr. Phil immediately hit her with the cut the bull; that gets no gas round here. Where's the rest? I really wanna watch all of this roasting.
Seriously, I feel for any person with actual diagnosed EDS who has been unnecessary exposed to watch this woman using the condition to escape her own responsibilities.
Linda B B i have EDS and I really appreciate this comment. After being diagnosed and joining support groups, you see all sorts of people, from very seriously affected people who are very humble and honest, to people who are mildly affected and use it to get whatever they want and play patient. Really hurts and invalidates peoples struggle
I have an official EDS diagnosis. I traveled out of state to get my diagnosis with a specialist because they are hard to come by. I am a full time college student, and work 30 hours per week. It is HARD some days, no doubt, but those who have been diagnosed spend the time learning how to help themselves as well. It’s not a crutch for me to use in order to not be a functioning human, but I am aware of when I need to pause for a few hours because I have pushed it too hard. Thank you for this comment!!
I have an official diagnosis and I'm actually very scared that people are going to think this is the new BS condition to claim to have. It's extremely disabling.
This lady is fatigued and depressed and possibly sick. It's unfortunate that there isn't more help for both mother and daughter. Mother needs proper tests run. and treatment for any illness she has She also needs a nutritionist and a exercise program. Once she drops some weight her energy should increase and her self-esteem could lift her up out of this situation. Ultimately relieving her daughter and becoming more independent. I believe there is hope in this situation. Always respect and take care ofl your mother. My humble opinion.
@Anita Mullaly yes I agree with you. What I meant to say is she needs physical therapy and treatment for her pain and whatever illness she may have. They both need a support system. I also understand sometimes it takes many years to get a proper diagnosis. I just recently have been diagnosed with gastropeiresis complicated by scar tissue and intestines are entwined. I have been in extreme pain for years. Gained a lot of weight because I haven't been physically active which, is why I have decided to push myself harder to get proper treatment. I finally found the right Dr to do the right test's. So I have compassion for this mother and daughter. My boyfriend helps me and my grown children. I think this lady also needs some antidepressants to help her out with depression. Btw, I'm sorry you hurt with fybromialga. I also have osteoporosis and multiple degenerative diseases. My neck is in a terrible shape . We all have our pains and we should encourage each other to push through the pain. To push through the depression that accompanies illness be it diagnosed or not. The mental pain we all go through at different times in our lives. I hope you push through your pain and can find relief.
@@melindahearld1470 EDS and gastroparesis go hand in hand as does POTS and MCAD. These alone make it impossible to walk some days and theres not always tests or doctors to help. If someone told you to just eat a raw vegan diet, wouldnt you be a bit put off by it? I can't afford to pay specialists out of pocket and most doctors need me to spell EDS and think gastroparesis is a skinny persons' disorder. Its not so simple sometimes.
This makes me so mad. I’m a home health aide. The man I takes care of absolutely hates the fact I have to take care of him. He literally pushes himself with one arm in his wheel chair and tries his best to do anything he’s able to. He wishes he could still work and provide for his family.
Why does this make you mad? You should probably get out of home health aide if you think some disabled people are too prideful to ask for and accept help.
@@aimeemckim5863 what she’s saying is that the lady who is deadass faking a serious and painful condition makes her upset and is giving actual disabled people a bad name
I'm 24 years old and I'm also have arthritis in severe .. but still I'm working having my whole household work and do wants move my life with this.. pain . I dont use excuse just like her . This is her own mentality she is using .
This is beyond sad, I think she just accustomed to living this lifestyle. She hasn’t had any former education or experience, so she probably doesn’t even no where to start, she’s wrong for putting this burden on her daughter.
Other people have said basically the problem going on, but this is also why its so important to get a job or a career and work BEFORE you have children, its important to have a skill set.
My wife has EDS, and I try my best to understand what she feels and I try to do everything in my ability to help her, even sacrificing my health at times for her. She's thankful for me and respects me, she allows me to take pride in what I do and that makes me a stronger person. Everyday she strengthens me, and that is the difference between someone who needs help and a user. Someone who uses and manipulates you will not allow you to feel confident in yourself and good about what you're doing. As a caregiver I can tell you with confidence, from experience that is my way of life, the daughter is being used, and if the mother really needs help, whether she has EDS or not, she needs to have respect for her daughter.
So sad that this Mum seems to have no desire or drive to help her daughter! I think even if she showed some determination to move forward this would be positive towards the daughter!
I have EDS and this angers me so much! It is debilitating sometimes but you still have to live your life! I feel so bad for that poor girl. That woman does not have the right to claim that she has this disease because her nurse mentioned it to her!
Idc what the situation is your parents raise you you return the favor when their older no matter the situation I'll always welcome my parents into my house
It is very hard to get official diagnosis these days. People barely have healthcare . Lots of doctors do overlook pain people are in and won't diagnose them even when all or most symptoms are present. Not saying this lady is or isnt sick but not being diagnosed and suffering because of it is a real issue.
Im 37 I have severe chronic gout. The doctors have said i wont walk in 10 years so dont automatically judge anyone i have 3 kids i raise alone and have to work cook, clean and all so i feel her pain but also she might reallly need help
Not saying she has it but it’s VERY common with EDS to struggle to get an official diagnosis . Please understand just cause someone doesn’t have a diagnosis doesn’t mean they aren’t in pain and disabled
Wane felicia Its true. Don’t speak about things you obviously know Nothing about. This lady is definitely toxic but it doesn’t mean her pain or illness is fake.
My coworker and I both have Ehlers Danlos (actually diagnosed by a physician). We both work full time in physically demanding jobs (were nurses). We’re both moms (I have four, she has one). We both also have autoimmune disorders. We both got our masters after having kids. It IS possible to work and live a fulfilling life with EDS. Some days are difficult but it’s possible.
I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia since my 30s. My muscles hurt all over. I get up everyday and I swim and walk and yoga for the past 30 years so I can work my job as a dentist. I don’t make a lot of money. Never made over 100k. Raised two wonderful kids , college graduates and working wonderful careers. Your life is what you make it lady .
I have a chronic back injury and have had multiple spinal surgeries. I also have a brain tumour that is causing migraines. I'm a single mum and I can't work so I don't have any money either .. no car ... But I'm still surviving and rent my own place. My kids are happy. We look at the positive things in life. I would never, ever expect my children to care for me like this. Id drop dead looking after them before I became like this woman. Your children are your world .. you want a happy future for them, the absolute best for them. Not to smother and exhaust and use them. This makes me so sad for that lovely daughter
I had a “friend” who’s kinda like the mom here. He’s lazy and depends on other people to do things for him. The main difference is that my “friend” is 18 and this lady is in her 50s. Eventually I came to the realization and stopped talking to him like a lot of my other friends have.
As a person with type 3 EDS, life can get really hard. And what I gotta say is that at least in my experience, EDS is not debilitating. I've spent a lot of time being useless and not being able to walk properly but this is just plain extortion. Plus, if the nurse thought she really had it, the mom would have had to have her heart checked among other things.
Unless you're mad that she's using her daughter, you shouldn't be mad. She very well could have eds. They didn't really talk about her symptoms very much.
Bruddah, my mum left school at 14, and didn’t go back to education till 40 and is now a fully qualified social care worker... some people are just so lazy its mad
Never had a job, no formal education AND expects her daughter to take on the burden that SHE caused. Her daughter needs to remove herself from her mother's life completely!!
if me and that girl had the same mindset, it would go like 'ok, you have a month to find a job, and help support the place you are living in, or im kicking you out'
I have hEDS- I work. I mean it’s hard and I take lots of medication and see lots of doctors but I want to have as normal life as possible. I know some EDS patients can’t work and that’s horrible. This woman makes me very suspicious
She needs mental help she got depressed after her divorce and let herself go she doesn't know how to do anything but to be a wife and a mother. My mother raised me to knows better I will never allow myself to be that dependent on another person for my own survival. After she got divorced she put all of that on her daughter because she doesn't know how to take care of herself I feel bad for the daughter because she will never be able to break free now unless her mother gets some help and she puts her foot down.
I have fully diagnosed Ehlers Danlos, arthritis, CVS that has me hospitalized at least twice a year and polycystic ovarian syndrome. I’ve also had cancer, broken many bones including multiple vertebrae. I’ve had over 30 surgeries in my life and I work full time. I’m in terrible grinding unending pain. But I pay my bills and work 40 to 50 hours a week since my divorce left me with nothing over 8 years ago. I could’ve given up at any point but I didn’t because I’m a badass mother and grandmother and I won’t let anything hold me back. This woman paints herself as a victim so that she can continue to hide from the world. I’m disgusted that she’s doing this to her daughter! Shame on her. I hope her daughter bounced out and has her own life.
My grandfather is legit 77, honestly very fit and healthy, still works (he’s a professor with a PhD!), has written books, travels, workout, and surfs while she sits there, and guilt trips her daughter into being her caretaking when she is 20+ years younger than him
i have hEDS, i got diagnosed at 17. the older you get the worse it gets but to abuse, mooch off and manipulate your family because of an illness is wrong. to be independent and self sufficient is so important for people with EDS. having EDS is different for everyone & the pain is real but using it in such a destructive manner is disgusting.
Dr Phil, educate yourself. It is VERY hard to get diagnosed with EDS and once a doctor is finally found some of us had to wait months or years for a diagnosis. I have EDS and it took 12 years for doctors to figure out what was making me so sick. It wasn’t until my 15 collapsed at school did we figure out what was wrong. EDS and it’s comorbidies are absolutely life altering. She still needs to become self sufficient but she didn’t deserve this treatment. So disappointing
Why doesn't the mother find a caregiver or can't she find a job do from home or she should find a nursing home. She should speak to a social worker and her doctor and find a plan of her own now drain her poor daughter.
I have been diagnosed with EDS and I suffer acute pain everyday, if it wasn’t for large doses of morphine I really don’t know what I’d do. After finding life too much I asked adult social services for help and now have a carer. I’m in the uk, I don’t know how it works in the states, but I asked for external help as my eldest child was helping me too much personally and helping me look after my three young children which was unfair. Now my carer helps me personally and supports me to care for me younger children freeing my older child to lead her own life. EDS is so very painful, I can sleep for days on end, having a bath will wipe me out completely as it drains all my energy. Don’t underestimate what this poor lady goes through. If I didn’t have children that needed me there are times with the pain I would have killed myself. She doesn’t say it to guilt her daughter, but because life is just too much. She can’t look after herself, I know as I’m there too.
As someone who actually has two conditions that make my bones break a lot and had to be on bed rest for extended periods for a long time, your muscles hurt cause of atrophy. That is something a lot of people apparently are not aware of. Atrophy is painful. Get up and move, and it relieves it more than you realize.
This infuriates me - myself and my daughter both have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and we both manage our conditions, unfortunately my daughter is now in a wheelchair but she still lives alone and does the best she can on her own, yes she needs help sometimes but this lady needs to start living her own life and not ruining her daughters with her selfishness
I was diagnosed when I was 34, the specialist said to my face I have it, but that the hospital letter would have to say I have probable EDS as it’s the hyper mobile kind and there is no actual test. This poor lady is in the states so can probably not afford to see a specialist. The nurse would not have said it unless she was really sure. It was my physical therapist that had me referred as she noticed it. My local hospital didn’t know enough so I had to travel to where there was a specialist. EDs is rare, I’ve spoken to many doctors who haven’t even heard of it. Please stop attacking this lady as she can’t afford the right doctors.
I have Primary Progressive Multiple Sclerosis, officially diagnosed, plus degenerative spine disease, arthritis and a few other things but I do not have any of my four children taking care of me. My youngest does live with me, he's almost 23, because he has Duplication 15q syndrome and Autism. We basically take care of each other. The moment I feel I can't take care of myself will be the moment I move into a care facility. I will not burden my children or interfere in their life.
Honestly, this is ridiculous if she feels guilty and she feels like a burden, why can't she just at LEAST do something for her daughter, if not for her house, or for herself and do something healthy physically and mentally?
Thank you to Dr Phil for acknowledging that EDS is a debilitating, crippling disease. It’s an awful thing to deal with and this lady acts like she wants to have it. Sick.
I’m 20 and I have psoriatic arthritis. I know the age gap is huge between the mother and I but I can say that I have been diagnosed and take chemo for my disease. I pretty much work out everyday and try to be active which helps me immensely and I bet that’s the case for her too. Staying in that bed 24/7 will deffo make any healthy persons muscle scream in pain smh.
I find this highly disturbing. Children should serve their parents no matter what, this girl's siblings need to contribute too and make sure their mother lives like a Queen. This is the woman who gave her everything to raise her children, how is it that a child sees it fit to go to a TV show to kick her mom out? Im lost for words.
