I always kind of felt sorry for her in the 90s anime. It was like she just wanted a friend but would kill anyone who she touched. I wonder if she is like a metaphor for something, or someone cursed her?
Moomin Valley is that fairy tale idealized version of what the socialist agenda teaches the dimwitted into believing as a true way of living. Even the Amish have a capitalist aspect to their society, so the whole 'true socialist' narrative is a dream only workable in a fictional story.
Yeah. And you know what? I encountered Moomin at the age of ten, and found the Groke a figure of sympathy, not fear The word has passed into my everyday speech ie. 'gerraway, you Groke', 'I feel grokely; etc. It's a great sustitute for swearwords, I find. [I'm nearly 70]
The opening theme and the Moomin stories always put me in a good mood, they have warm, friendly, homely feeling, especially when I'm feeling down, thanks for uploading!
Huh... As an English-speaking person This is exactly how I remembered it, if it was in the original how then could you market the program, its like saying the magic roundabout should have never been translated in English
@@UltimateFarter--007 I tried searching, but mostly I found polish translation of the Japanese version. I don't speak Polish, but just curious how it sounds.
Tufslan and Vifslan think the ruby's value lies in its beauty and the joy it brings. The Groke sees only it's monetary value, and is willing to intimidate others to get it, and eventually trades it for another very expensive object.
HOLY SHIT! I very vaguely remember watching this in Poland. I had to be 2-3 years old. When the Groke thing killed the butterfly literally gave me a very weird flashback!
The Moomins (Originally: Opowiadania Muminków/Die Mumins) - Poland/Austria, 1977-82 (TV series). The Japanese versions were made prior to this. The animation here is clearly in the Germanic style.
Groke seems to be a spirit of winter. Perhaps in the shows native europe, where winters are bitterly cold, people would dislike the groke... But here in Australia, I personally despise the extreme heat, and love what cold we get in winter and autumn. The heat miser from the rudolph cartoons is a more appropriate weather spirit to despise IMHO.
I must have watched this at some point shenbi was younger, but I have no clue wtf I would have seen it. It's like some weird fever dream of things I recognise but don't really remember
... I was so scared by this version of the momins years ago ... it is still scary ... It is like they have twisted the story into a horrible nightmare... .. . But really nice to see it again though !!
I remember this stop motion show! The Groak freaked me out! I saw this in English too on my TV. I can't remember what channel this was on. It was a while ago. I never saw the other Moomins show that was 2D animation but I remember this stop motion one. I think the other Moomins show was animated by a Japanese animation company.
modern software allows anyone to make movies like these.Its sad that the talent to be able to dream poetically is gone.Its ironic even.nowadays all you get are battling robots with gattling guns .
I'm only fourteen, and I'm from Canada, so I'm pretty sure I never watched this as a child and if I did I certainly do not remember doing so. But I saw a tumblr post mentioning how scary 'The Groke' was, so I looked (what I believe to be a her?) up and she's(?) not that bad. Kind of cute, actually.
Funny, I still remember the answers from my childhood. The suitcase contains the King-Ruby (symbolizing hidden love), and the hat belongs to Trollkarl, the Magician (mistakenly translated as the Hobgoblin, here).
I've never seen these versions of the Moomin before. I think they do capture the mystical and rather sinister side of the original Moomin books better than the Japanese anime version. Thingumy and Bob are originally called Tufslan and Vifslan in Swedish, or Tiuhti and Viuhti in Finnish. These are not really gender specific names, unlike Bob. I've heard that these two carachters represent the love affair between Tove Jansson and her partner Tuulikki Pietilä.
@clintrock it was the "king ruby". the most valuable ruby in the world. it belongs to groke and was meant to be a present from her to the hoobgoblin or the wizard as i call him.
