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Monarch 612 Lathe Restoration: Installing an Aloris DA Tool Post, Chuck, and Making First Cuts! 

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@hairyfro
@hairyfro 8 месяцев назад
What happened to the bathtub of Evaporust?
@tiredoldmechanic1791
@tiredoldmechanic1791 8 месяцев назад
Anyone else get flashbacks from shop class as Keith was installing that chuck without a board on the ways? I recall teachers hollering at students doing that.
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 8 месяцев назад
Those ways are hardened and if you’re careful it doesn’t hurt them. Still, a board to protect them is always good practice.
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 8 месяцев назад
In my shop class we had cradles to support the chucks, handles front and rear for lifting. I made some for my lathe many years later.
@garybrenner6236
@garybrenner6236 8 месяцев назад
B. S.!@@ellieprice363
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, he sometimes does things that makes me cringe...
@Labrador_Iron
@Labrador_Iron 8 месяцев назад
if you look closely the chucks diameter is small enough that its resting on the 'Inner" ways which only the tail stock and steady rest use, neither of which will ever be in the chuck area so no real harm in regards of function of the machine just aesthetics. a lot of older Lathes I've seen are pretty beat up in this area anyways from years of little nicks and bumps.
@guillermocarrillo3959
@guillermocarrillo3959 8 месяцев назад
I’m surprised you didn’t soak the pieces in Evaporust to remove the rust.
@juliancripps1580
@juliancripps1580 8 месяцев назад
Great to see the Tally Ho capstan base , clean and ready for a new cast cap!
@65BAJA
@65BAJA 8 месяцев назад
Pretty sure the first "job" for the lathe is machining the capstan base for it's powered conversion.
@Paul-FrancisB
@Paul-FrancisB 8 месяцев назад
Good morning Keith, that is a big boy's tool post! I think the guy who made that jib crane assumed that you would swing in from the back of the lathe rather than the front with the post being offset to the rear, then the load wouldn't want to move as much when you lift it.
@cyrilhudak4568
@cyrilhudak4568 8 месяцев назад
Was going to say the same thing. Anyone else cringe when he set that chuck on the ways without wood protection?
@m9ovich785
@m9ovich785 8 месяцев назад
He said the cart was too wide to fit between the lathe's...
@Paul-FrancisB
@Paul-FrancisB 8 месяцев назад
He did 😁, the chuck cradle wants a smaller cart but it sounds like he wants to build a new crane anyway
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 8 месяцев назад
Taking that Aloris tool post apart and reassembling it was a good learning experience for me. The three start thread and matching movable cams continues to be a very valuable and useful invention by Mr. Sirola. “Aloris” is the inventor’s name spelled backwards.
@ianpendlebury9503
@ianpendlebury9503 8 месяцев назад
That 3 jaw chuck is a work of art. As an amateur, I've never seen anything like it.
@Sizukun1
@Sizukun1 8 месяцев назад
I was hoping for a bunch of parts to go into your giant vat of evaporust! I guess I never thought about it before but I didn't know tool posts had those giant screws in them like that!
@thefirstcalled
@thefirstcalled 8 месяцев назад
OMG! My sphincter tightened and my toes began to ache when I saw the little crane bend.... LOL!!! Thank you as always Mr. Rucker! Since retirement, my new career in watching people move metal is awesome! 😊
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 8 месяцев назад
Exciting to see that machine finally making some chips!
@edbennett8257
@edbennett8257 8 месяцев назад
Just a hard learned lesson, when tapping a tee nut, stop the tap just short of forming the threads all the way through. Make it so a bolt won't thread all the way through the nut to prevent forcing against the bottom of the slot accidentally.
@nighttrain1450
@nighttrain1450 8 месяцев назад
So I am going with Leo’s capstan for the next job. I saw it in the background on the floor and the top should be ready soon. What ever it is, I can’t wait to see the lathe used .👍🇬🇧
@doughunt5175
@doughunt5175 8 месяцев назад
That crane sure looks like it was meant to lift the work from behind the machine. Which makes sense, so you don't risk smashing the controls.
@m9ovich785
@m9ovich785 8 месяцев назад
He said the cart was too wide to fit between the lathe's...
@jimc4731
@jimc4731 8 месяцев назад
Keith, you used to use evaporust for everything, as of late you do not use it at all! Did you loose the sponsorship? JIM 🎉
@ellieprice363
@ellieprice363 8 месяцев назад
I’m guessing the name- brand stuff is a little too expensive for general use when white vinegar at $2.00 gallon works just as well. After the vinegar soak the light acidic action must be neutralized and the part dried and coated with oil.
@Hoaxer51
@Hoaxer51 8 месяцев назад
@@ellieprice363,Yea, but Keith already built a vat and had put at least a 55 gallon drum of Evaporust in it, it had a lid too so it wouldn’t evaporate. I wonder if he still has it, that Aloris tool hold and those Chuck’s would have been a perfect use for that stuff. Maybe not enough time in a day because you should probably let whatever you’re working on soak overnight for best results.
@scottthomas5999
@scottthomas5999 8 месяцев назад
That Cushman Chuck has really nice features. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@phillipyannone3195
@phillipyannone3195 8 месяцев назад
Sounds like the capstan will be making an appearance.😊
@Hoaxer51
@Hoaxer51 8 месяцев назад
I could see it sitting in the background on a pallet so it’s probably going to happen real soon.
@stuartm8335
@stuartm8335 8 месяцев назад
Keith says at 29:27 the cart is a bit too big to fit behind the lathe so i guess that is why he is picking up from the front.
@4englishlies875
@4englishlies875 8 месяцев назад
Congratulations, first cut! This was very cool.
@ericmcrae7758
@ericmcrae7758 8 месяцев назад
Hi Keith A couple of observations I was surprised you had that chuck clonking around on the ways, why not use a plank of wood on the ways then the chuck? and I seem to remember you used to have a tank of Evaporust wouldn't that have been perfect for cleaning up the tool post.
@LanceMcGrew
@LanceMcGrew 8 месяцев назад
Ditto - cringed when chuck banged against ways thinking get out the plywood please
@trainman2860
@trainman2860 8 месяцев назад
It might help to put a piece of plywood across your ways to put the chuck on so it does not damage anything.
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 8 месяцев назад
What a gorgeous set up. You really turned some beat up equipment into pure jewelry. Kudos Frank
@scottbishop7899
@scottbishop7899 8 месяцев назад
Should've lifted the chuck on from the other side of the lathe to have your jib crane pivoted out over the floor, if you're going to mount from this side you would need the pivot arm moved to this side of the lathe or extend the boom on the jib crane (you may have to put extra support on the mounting arm etc though).
@m9ovich785
@m9ovich785 8 месяцев назад
He said the cart was too wide to fit between the lathe's...
@scottbishop7899
@scottbishop7899 8 месяцев назад
@@m9ovich785 well that's a bugger, needs a thinner cart then lol
@tedmiles2110
@tedmiles2110 8 месяцев назад
I remember when you brought that big lathe into your shop! It has been years; but well worth all the work you put into it! Ted Miles long time watcher
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 8 месяцев назад
Your happiness is hard to contain but it’s beautiful to watch. Thanks for sharing. I know that chuck was so heavy it may have broken a piece of wood between the ways. That chuck is art.
@CothranMike
@CothranMike 8 месяцев назад
ArmoredPepperDuex the way to prevent ways damage from mounting and dismounting chucks and faceplates is to place a device, prepared well in advance, which has wooden riser blocks connected at the bottom which drops between the ways in question and supports any falls or even scratching, had an oldtimers adjustable way caddie in a shop I worked at which fit the purpose. Very handy and easy to store with the chuck cart.
@hpda44
@hpda44 8 месяцев назад
Wow it’s been a long time coming! Congratulations Keith.
@Charlybob9008
@Charlybob9008 8 месяцев назад
I think you'd benefit most with an overhead beam and trolley system designed to be able to move on a second set of two beams and trolley that will allow you to lift and move things in every direction above the lathes
@markbernier8434
@markbernier8434 8 месяцев назад
Really impressive to see that working. I will say I think the crane needs to be near the top of the list. What I saw you do today is a finger smasher waiting to happen.
@littleworkshopofhorrors2395
@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 8 месяцев назад
I think the chucks are meant to be loaded from the back of the lathe , not the operators side, judging by the cranes pivot point. Would save the finger mangling possibility, or at least reduce it lapse of attention senior moments.
@CothranMike
@CothranMike 8 месяцев назад
@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 As Keith said, it does not fit at present, I too would seek to accommodate a useful addition such as the jib crane and chuck cart. Trouble is... which lathe to move, or even rework the cart a bit. A lot to ponder.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 8 месяцев назад
@@CothranMike the cart is fine and the crane is fine, its just that it looks like the cart should be at the rear where the crane could lift a chuck straight up and then swing Inboard.
@johnhughes3995
@johnhughes3995 8 месяцев назад
Definitely need to improve the crane. Great work as always.
@grharr4136
@grharr4136 Месяц назад
I see Tally Ho's windlass in the background..! The video's that you made depicting the huge amount of work required to refurbish and rebuild their windlass was phenomenal A huge undertaking and I watched them all. I was very impressed with your skill and ability to create such great work. In fact, it's how I became a fan and watch every video you post. Great job. Great work!!
@boogiewoogiebubbleboy2877
@boogiewoogiebubbleboy2877 8 месяцев назад
If you are going to be changing the 3 and 4 jaw chucks over on a more frequent basis, I suggest you sort your crane out ASAP before one of you gets injured! It's great to see some actual machining done for a change. Thanks, Keith. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚒️
@carlkulyk366
@carlkulyk366 8 месяцев назад
I admire your taste in machine tools, all top shelf kit. I think you have the best home shop on you tube.
@avoirdupois1
@avoirdupois1 8 месяцев назад
Great to see that lathe making chips! Looking forward to seeing it put to work.
@ianmoone2359
@ianmoone2359 8 месяцев назад
Awesome work as always. Really nice to see an old lathe have new life breathed into it. Of course to restore a lathe you first have to own a lathe 😂😂👍 If I were to guess, I’d just about bet dollars to donuts that the large machining job that you have coming up is the new cast winch capstan for Leo’s Tally Ho Boat restoration that’s being cast over at Windy Hill Foundry. Can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to this next series on that project Kieth, it combines two of my passions - boats and machining. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
@TheAukel
@TheAukel 8 месяцев назад
“I kind of got an idea on something I can build.” - Keith Rucker See a problem, solve a problem. Love it.
@Barnagh1
@Barnagh1 8 месяцев назад
Great to see it running so well after all your careful work.
@waynep343
@waynep343 8 месяцев назад
Years in the making. Looks beautiful. Congrats on the first chips from that. I have seen most if not all of the videos on that rebuild.
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 8 месяцев назад
I agree with @davidt8438 Evaporust would have done a better job by removing the most rust and converting any left into a stable form. The phrase that springs to mind is “Don’t spoil the ship for a ha’porth of tar”
@waynephillips2777
@waynephillips2777 8 месяцев назад
It's great to see this lathe making chips.
@johnwallace9002
@johnwallace9002 8 месяцев назад
A trick we used to use at work was put the come-along on upside down then you have the ratchet down low mor convenient.
@johnsherborne3245
@johnsherborne3245 8 месяцев назад
It’s funny how obvious simple ideas can seem. Good one!
@masteruniverse3506
@masteruniverse3506 8 месяцев назад
Single point threading is always magic!
@robrobitaille4235
@robrobitaille4235 8 месяцев назад
Nice job. What a beautiful lathe. And, as usual, I learned stuff. Thank you!
@truckguy6666
@truckguy6666 8 месяцев назад
I love how you do what is reasonably necessary without going to great lengths to repair/replace/remachine every little aspect. Its a glimpse into a real life shop where stuff needs to get done, not necessarily to make video content. One of my favorite channels for a long time now! All of the woodwork/metalwork channels are trying to outdo each other and its giving amateur/novice viewers an inaccurate depiction of the trades..
@SciPunk215
@SciPunk215 8 месяцев назад
It's ALIVE !
@andrewstoll4548
@andrewstoll4548 8 месяцев назад
It's kind of funny watching you use this large handle with the big tap when earlier I watched Curtis of CEE sweating using a 2.8mm tap hoping not to break it.
@samuraidriver4x4
@samuraidriver4x4 8 месяцев назад
I rather tap a 1 inch hole then a 2.8mm one😂 Tapped plenty of m24 and m30 holes by hand but I hate the small sizes under m5.
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 8 месяцев назад
*Kurtis
@phildegruy9295
@phildegruy9295 8 месяцев назад
Your mention of your friend having worked for Cincinnati Milacron brought to mind we had a body shop full of Cincinnati Milacron T3's as spot welding robots back in '95. They were beasts and could rip a Suburban body off the carrier and fling it around like it was a toy. In 1990, ABB bought the robotics business of Cincinnati Milacron in the Us and the Cincinnati robots were gradually phased out for ABB robots.
@johnsherborne3245
@johnsherborne3245 8 месяцев назад
Years back as an engineering student I was shown round the Swindon railway works. Nothing there was small. They had the mother and father of a travelling crane, ran down each side of the building, spanning everything. I’ve often thought Keith would really benefit from a proper crane. Any one got one going spare ?
@petertitterton6836
@petertitterton6836 8 месяцев назад
I also went round the Swindon Railway works. My late father-in-law was a chargehand coppersmith there. After it closed it became a designer outlet centre. Some of the old cranes and other pieces of equipment are still there.
@johnsherborne3245
@johnsherborne3245 8 месяцев назад
@@petertitterton6836 rather a sad come down for what in its prime was one of the worlds greatest engineering works.
@PhilG999
@PhilG999 8 месяцев назад
I'm only 2 minutes in but I can tell this is going to be a good one! Can't wait to see that 612 making chips!
@mikes4408
@mikes4408 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Keith! Nice vid. Please check your audio. Thanks
@TheLfd213
@TheLfd213 8 месяцев назад
Love the sound of the rain frogs in the background. Brings back memories of the shop at my grandparents farm
@jsteifel
@jsteifel 8 месяцев назад
oh boy Keith, I was holding my breath when you were moving that chuck over. I was hoping you were going to put some wood in there to protect your ways. did you clean the scroll out after all that wire wheeling and scotch brite work.
@alun7006
@alun7006 8 месяцев назад
It's alive, it's alive! Congrats on the big milestone - looking forward to seeing what you do with the beast. That chuck is a monster - it probably weighs more than my whole lathe!
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 8 месяцев назад
I saw a guy online that did a home DIY nickel plating on his tool holders to keep them from rusting...have you ever done a video on that? Very cool on clean up and setup of the tool post! Awesome stuff! Keep em coming!!!!
@switch2472
@switch2472 8 месяцев назад
Keith, you can wire wheel and then boil your rusty steel parts, and it will convert the red oxide rust into black oxide. Still need to rub down/wire wheel off the flaky red before and after the boiling, and you just repeat the boil-rub down-boil cycle until only black oxide is left. Then, just treat it like any other black oxide coating
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 8 месяцев назад
WOW,! A very big moment. First chips on the Monarch 10 EE lathe. CONGRATULATIONS,Sir.
@ratdude747
@ratdude747 8 месяцев назад
Wrong lathe. This is a Monarch 612... his biggest lathe. Monarch 10EE is a small toolroom lathe...same company, but very different product.
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 8 месяцев назад
@@ratdude747 Ah my bad! Sorry
@rickswanberg4995
@rickswanberg4995 8 месяцев назад
You might want to make a chuck for the tail stock similar to the one Curtis of CEE made for his big lathe.
@davekummer6587
@davekummer6587 8 месяцев назад
You beet me to that. Comment. Same. Idea I Thought.
@joelchabot5167
@joelchabot5167 8 месяцев назад
Keith you should put plywood to protec the lathe bed of that big boy. Keep on
@johnbewick6357
@johnbewick6357 8 месяцев назад
I guess you are going to need this lathe to machine the Tally Ho capstan, which looks like it is on the crate by the forge. Saw a preview of Clark casting a prototype capstan top which was broken in your shop when dismantling it. Cant wait to see it being machined and put back to working order.
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing Keith
@davidhall1779
@davidhall1779 8 месяцев назад
yeay team, first chips on the monarch. its been a great project to watch.
@StevenEverett7
@StevenEverett7 8 месяцев назад
Congratulations Keith on a job well done!
@swarfster
@swarfster 8 месяцев назад
I wonder if they loaded the chucks from the back of the lathe and that’s why it doesn’t swing over the front?
@WillyBemis
@WillyBemis 8 месяцев назад
Great video! Thank you Keith!
@frankerceg4349
@frankerceg4349 8 месяцев назад
Thank you Keith!
@HorsleyLandy88
@HorsleyLandy88 8 месяцев назад
Making chips, well done Keith.
@MaverickandStuff
@MaverickandStuff 8 месяцев назад
That is a nice chuck. You could flip the inner and outer jaws around and get what looks like 6-8in of engagement on the part. You can really get a good hold on your parts.
@johncloar1692
@johncloar1692 8 месяцев назад
Great job Keith you have a very nice machine. As alway you do very fine work. Looking forward to see you use it in the future.
@robertmatel8136
@robertmatel8136 8 месяцев назад
What happened to the huge Evaporust tank?
@Ron-k8e7f
@Ron-k8e7f 8 месяцев назад
good job keith
@dcrahn
@dcrahn 8 месяцев назад
Why not use your tank of Evapo-Rust? Also (Lathe Care & Maintenance) Never lay your chucks or any tools on the Ways!
@darkwinter7395
@darkwinter7395 8 месяцев назад
I was thinking exactly the same thing... don't grease it yet, evapo-rust it first! 😬
@ddblairco
@ddblairco 8 месяцев назад
thank you Keith
@wallaceknifeworkshomestead
@wallaceknifeworkshomestead 8 месяцев назад
Nice ! Would that big job have anything to do with a sailboat? 😁😁
@maureennewcomb7882
@maureennewcomb7882 8 месяцев назад
That’s my bet.
@timf6916
@timf6916 8 месяцев назад
Great job
@jamesnorman415
@jamesnorman415 8 месяцев назад
Tapping that hole made my back hurt!😊😊
@pinterelectric
@pinterelectric 8 месяцев назад
Looks like so much fun!
@davidt8438
@davidt8438 8 месяцев назад
With the magic of editing you could have done a long soak in Evaporust and gotten a non abrasive way of removing the rust. At the very least a brass wire wheel would have removed the rust without the aggressive action of a steel wire wheel. But I know the comment section of this site doesn’t take kindly to any kind of criticism so let’s just agree that it would have been an option.
@markedis5902
@markedis5902 8 месяцев назад
I agree. Evaporust would have removed what it could and converted any surface rust left to a stable form
@crystaldragon141
@crystaldragon141 8 месяцев назад
I'm surprised he didn't cause I think he has a big tank of it.
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 8 месяцев назад
The classic way of rust bluing firearms is boiling in water to convert the rust then carding with a fine wire brush to remove the fuzz.
@Arnie10101
@Arnie10101 8 месяцев назад
Good morning, Keith :)
@johnmolnar2957
@johnmolnar2957 8 месяцев назад
I see the Tally Ho Capstan casting fitted up in that lather for machining
@PixelSchnitzel
@PixelSchnitzel 8 месяцев назад
Why use the wire wheel to remove rust when you have that big tank of Evapo Rust? It would get into the places the wire wheel didn't and keep your grease from getting a bunch of rust suspended in it.
@ronshumway1
@ronshumway1 8 месяцев назад
So you've given up on Evaporust, Keith?
@petegraham1458
@petegraham1458 8 месяцев назад
Looking forward to seeing you put this to work!
@fjjunker8388
@fjjunker8388 8 месяцев назад
A very good video. Thank you very much.
@GreeceUranusPutin
@GreeceUranusPutin 8 месяцев назад
Finally, someone who isn't on the evaporust payroll!
@paulcopeland9035
@paulcopeland9035 8 месяцев назад
Keith has the largest tank of Evaporust on RU-vid. You need to review past episodes.
@mudnducs
@mudnducs 8 месяцев назад
Congratulations!!!!
@tpobrienjr
@tpobrienjr 8 месяцев назад
Fine looking machine
@rgmoore
@rgmoore 8 месяцев назад
Wonder why not use that huge tank of EvpoRust you used to have. That stuff should have eliminated all the rust in all the areas for a bit of soaking.
@bryansmant870
@bryansmant870 8 месяцев назад
Great to see the first chips!
@donmedford2563
@donmedford2563 8 месяцев назад
The scroll on that 3 jaw chuck is the slowest I have ever seen. One think I would love for you to show is cutting a 2 or 3 point thread like is on that tool post. I have seen lots of single point threads cut on you tube but never any thing else.
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing 😅
@6NBERLS
@6NBERLS 8 месяцев назад
Most excellent.
@walterplummer3808
@walterplummer3808 8 месяцев назад
Good morning Keith. Have a great weekend!
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing.👍
@butter262
@butter262 8 месяцев назад
Good morning
@kevinkohler5140
@kevinkohler5140 8 месяцев назад
Knowing your familiarity with evapoRust, why not use it for the toolpost?
@edcallahan6952
@edcallahan6952 8 месяцев назад
Nice video I have a cushman 4 jaw combination chuck works slick probably 16 inch , you have a cushman chuck publication showing them and how to use them. Thanks for all your effort making this video ed
@FutopiaAD
@FutopiaAD 8 месяцев назад
A board across the ways would be really cheap insurance while mounting that chuck. That chain looks pretty spindly
@seapy2398
@seapy2398 8 месяцев назад
Naa, chain made in China will lift ANYTHING!
@donaldcreg5110
@donaldcreg5110 8 месяцев назад
I see a oops already this morning. The windy hill foundry is still casting the capstan for tally ho . You forgot and left it on the floor in your recording for this mornings video. 😮 I guess I have to much time on my hands this morning drinking coffee ☕😂
@gagasmancave8859
@gagasmancave8859 8 месяцев назад
Just thought the same
@andrewskipwith9401
@andrewskipwith9401 8 месяцев назад
That's the original.... windy hill just casting a new top for it
@melshea2519
@melshea2519 8 месяцев назад
Happy Friday Keith! 😊
@MartsGarage
@MartsGarage 8 месяцев назад
Hello Keith. I love the big Monarch, what a sweet machine. You've done a great job on it. I was also impressed by the adjustable 3 jaw. That's a pretty versatile piece. Re the crane. The addition of an intermediate arm would allow far more range and would be a neat way to do it. Of course the roller beam type of device would also work but just pointing out an alternative. I'm interested to see what you want to do on the lathe and any more mods you care to do. All the best, Mart in England.
@lynnplestid2711
@lynnplestid2711 8 месяцев назад
Is that the capstan the back ground from windy hill?
@marvinschleicher5542
@marvinschleicher5542 8 месяцев назад
I think you should put a board on the ways to keep from dinging them up. Chuck is heavy and wouldn’t take much to mar machine. Just thinkin
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