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MONDAINE vs. BERNY Homage - Is It Even Close?! 

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One might automatically dismiss Berny when comparing it to the Mondaine. However, I was a bit surprised when making this video and you may too. The results are very interesting to say the least.
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@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
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@violinmke
@violinmke Год назад
I consider the full lume Berny to be one of the best value watches on Ali Express.
@patricklgreen
@patricklgreen 7 месяцев назад
I am not one of those watch snobs who says homages are "wrong". But in this case, the Berny crosses the line. It is more than heritage. The design is not just well known, it is licensed. Hilfiker's design has been honored by both the Museum of Modern Art in New York and the London Design Museum and when Apple recently put the face as an option on their smart watch, it cost Apple more than 20 million francs. This one literally crosses the line away from homage and into copyright violation.
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 3 месяца назад
Agreed. It’s as you say officially recognised as a classic design Ala the red 🇬🇧 phone box etc etc . Blatant copy - so why aren’t mondaine taking them to court ? 🤔
@AlanDike
@AlanDike Месяц назад
@@serenityinside1 so the real question, are the swiss railway clocks the copy of the mondaine, or is the mondaine a copy of the swiss railway clocks?
@MonoXimian
@MonoXimian Месяц назад
only watch snobs care about heritage and history - EVERYTHING is a copy of something somewhere and apart from the awful name, the cheap Berny homage is a great buy. Dont like it, dont buy it, go pay for heritage, noone else cares.
@ftlbaby
@ftlbaby Год назад
For those that don't like the Berny name, they also sell this watch without the logo ( or a custom logo) for extra $. Model AM138MSZ.
@jarowinti9274
@jarowinti9274 Год назад
I bought the Berny and the real deal was that they put my name on the dial and on the screw case back and movement. And the lume is just insane. Even in the morning you can still read the time!! Great show, Joe!!
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Pretty awesome! Thanks bro!
@user-zc7bf7rn7v
@user-zc7bf7rn7v Год назад
How much did it cost in addition to the cost of the watch?
@jarowinti9274
@jarowinti9274 Год назад
@@user-zc7bf7rn7v $20-30 if I remember well. But they did a great job.
@thomassweet3132
@thomassweet3132 Год назад
I own the Berny. Very good watch for the price.
@user-tq6gg7ln4g
@user-tq6gg7ln4g 11 месяцев назад
Well, there is Cadisen's homage to Mondaine on AE already. It's got NH35 inside and polished case. And Cadisen's homage is cheaper than Berny's one)
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Месяц назад
The main point is , that people aren’t focusing on , that Cadisen has the seiko movement which is definitely the better option . No brainier - otherwise they look virtually identical!
@Chrisb8s
@Chrisb8s 7 месяцев назад
I bought the Cadisen version with the seiko movement. It's pretty nice. I feel that the Mondaine is really an homage also
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 3 месяца назад
A blatant copy - let’s be right !
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Месяц назад
Good move ..better movement by far Ps … I did too 😊
@somewhereintimewatchreviews
Good comparison. Ignoring the obvious "homage" thing for a moment. The Berny doesn't seem like a bad watch overall, seconds hand could have done with being a bit longer. I have always felt that Modaine generally are overpriced, so I can absolutely see the appeal of the Berny.
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
I couldn’t agree more. With Mondaine you’re paying for the whole Swiss Railway concept and history. With that aside, the Berny doesn’t look too bad next the Mondaine.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
This Berny might be better for me. I have pretty big wrists and with most 20mm straps, I'm at the second to last hole. The Berny comes with a 22mm strap, a Miyota automatic and sapphire. No, it's not a heirloom piece, but a stylish office or casual watch depending on strap. Not bad at all!
@gmr2048
@gmr2048 Месяц назад
I'm an entry-level watch guy. I took a trip to Switzerland last year and loved the Swiss Railway clocks. I'd love to have a Mondaine with the "stop2go" feature where the second hand stops at the :58 mark (happens so all the clocks in the railway system can sync up), then jumps to the :00 mark. But I can't justify paying the Mondaine price for that. Maybe one day. Until then, I bought the full-lume Berny during an Ali sale, but didn't love the greenish hue to the dial. So I bought the un-lumed version and 100% love it. Still need to sell off that lumed one :)
@defer-rare-rah
@defer-rare-rah Год назад
Cool video! I see a green tinge and not yellow in the Berny dial. Maybe get around that, psychologically, and it won’t bother as much. The Mondaine case presents as cheap, and the finish won’t hold up to a rigorous lifestyle. The Berny case is pretty common but I do like it better. Anyone not familiar with Mondaine’s “stop2go” should definitely check it out. It emulates the 58-second sweep and two-second pause at noon like the actual train station clocks do. I believe it has two movements..one for just the second hand. None the less..I would take a weekend with Berny in this head2head battle. Cheers!
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Thank you. I’ve seen the Stop2Go. It is pretty neat and unique. Thanks for sharing bud. That shiny shiny does present as cheap. I agree.
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Год назад
It's pretty ok for the money if you like the look but don't have the cash for the Mondaine. The name could do without the Y at the end! Excellent comparison!
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Take off the “Y” and you have the capital of Switzerland! Believe it or not?!
@objective7042
@objective7042 Год назад
​@@AvgJoeWatchReviews What's funny, Berny's about page mentioned their name came from the name Bern
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
@@objective7042 let’s be honest… they took the name that was available off the list of names that were still available to own.
@jameseisen9371
@jameseisen9371 Год назад
I own a quartz Mondaine...... Bought it in 2001..... Still going strong.....
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
That’s good to know. Thanks for sharing.
@GuySasha2022
@GuySasha2022 6 месяцев назад
😯
@bowmarsh
@bowmarsh Год назад
I have a quartz powered Mondaine Big Date which unfortunately fell and stopped working, I took it to my excellent watch maker who said it needed a new Ronda 519 movement. I checked on eBay and saw that the average price for this movement is about $12-15. What I don’t understand is how Mondaine get away with charging hundreds of dollars for this watch.
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
You’re paying for the iconic layout of the dial as it looks exactly like the clocks at the Switzerland train stations. They’re iconic.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
​@AvgJoeWatchReviews I thought about this & it's true, you pay for the name and the quality it implies. The problem with many products that have this heritage and iconic name brand recognition, is that they are no longer loyal to building the quality product that made them famous and that their customers expect. Mondaine, for example, could easily give the customer a Ronda 700 or better series quartz movement and sapphire precisely because it IS a Mondaine. Where's the pride in their own brand? If Mondaine put the same features as this automatic Berny in a better quartz movement watch for around $200 it would still make money for them, be an entry level "affordable " Mondaine, while backing up the brand with actual quality. What are your thoughts on this?
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
@@antoniotula262 here are my thoughts. This simply my opinion based on multiple products and not aimed specially at Mondaine. Companies have a tendency to underestimate the customer base and in fact, to put bluntly, insult our intelligence by taking shortcuts to save money for higher GP (gross profits). Sure they may save penny’s per product which add up when multiplied by bulk over time. However, when the customer catches on and goes elsewhere (Berny for example) you lose that repeat customer and your best marketing tool… word of mouth which outshines the savings they had by putting a mineral crystal instead of sapphire for instance.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Thank you for your response. I agree, and I would thank you even if we did not agree. Consumers have much more info at their fingertips and as you said, "catch on" eventually. I don't mind paying more for quality, but I won't pay a premium for what I know to be below average just because a known brand name is on a product. I went to Berny site & will order one sterile face or maybe just the shield. I definitely want the luminous dial though!
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
@@antoniotula262 I enjoyed chatting. Hope to see you again in more comments. You asked a thought provoking question and I enjoyed your insight as well.
@stizanley3987
@stizanley3987 10 месяцев назад
"Very similar design cues." LOL
@rrich52806
@rrich52806 10 месяцев назад
No brainer my Berny was $69. The original does NOT do the 2 second click at 12 as on the Swill clocks in the train stations.
@DadgeCity
@DadgeCity 2 месяца назад
My Mondaine isn't working, so I'm considering getting the Berny - the luminous dial is an incentive.
@SidBonkers51
@SidBonkers51 9 месяцев назад
Its all done to VFM for me so I guess the Berny is the winner but the Mondaine is not badly priced considering its heritage at least in the UK as they sell here for around £270 in the mesh bracelet and less on leather.
@1gman858
@1gman858 Год назад
I believe the Mondaine watches are made by different manufacturers over the years. Feels like the specs and licensing is what travels with the manufacture. I have been inside a Big Date EVO and an auto with the SW200-1. Although the hour markers look applied, you can see on back of the brass dial that the hour markers are embossed.
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Месяц назад
Brass dial … exactly - for how much ? 🙄
@1gman858
@1gman858 Месяц назад
@@serenityinside1 Most Watch Dial "blanks" are a softer metal with the "feet" soldered-on, then coated, treated, over lay-ed with what you see from the front of the dial. In my case of the EVO Big Date (Quartz) I grabbed mine from an etsy user for about $90 needed a new movement Ronda 519 $30 and I replaced the crystal (Chinese Aliexpress single dome Sapphire $12)
@jameseisen9371
@jameseisen9371 Год назад
...... Although seconds hand never hit markers..... The timekeeping is good tho
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Tine keeping on the Berny is actually better. I was shocked at that.
@7Sheepinwolvesclothing7
@7Sheepinwolvesclothing7 Год назад
Great vid!! I just bought a Berny half way through. The lume shot got me bud! Now I’ll hunt the other watch. Forgot the name lol.
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Thanks! Wow… cannot believe I sold you half way through. 😂 👍
@simply_psi
@simply_psi Год назад
I have just ordered the Berny, it looks good and does offer a different perspective to the Mondaine watches, I have the StoptoGo Mondaine and do love it and what some might think is a gimik, but I never tire of it's little 'dance' every minute. I'm hoping that I will be getting the best of both worlds having the Berny Automatic and the Mondaine with the party trick, at the momet they are no longer making the StoptoGo, something to do with a fire at either the warehouse ot factory, I understand Modaine are plannjng to make it again in the future, but until then anyone wanting one will need to look at the 2nd hand market (a certain irony there lol)
@MirrlyonTime
@MirrlyonTime Год назад
Great comparison. My own observations. Mondaine def nicer dial the white is super crisp and while the berny has a fully line dial I don’t like the resultant yellow tinge to the dial. The seconds hand is also off putting to me on the berny. It looks short and stubby, likely because of the circle at the pinion on it instead of the straight line of the Mondaine. Berny would have been smarter to use bgw9 so the dial would remain a whiter colour, that yellow tinge just looks gross to me, I have a watch from a Canadian micro that did the same thing, great lume but the yellow tinge, ick….not interested in Berny, the name alone on the dial is a turn off for me. That Mondaine is so crisp clean and yes classic, while it doesn’t speak to me it looks awesome, nice one!
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Good thoughts on the BGW9. I didn’t think of that. Would totally work giving it a stealthy lumed dial. Thanks for watching mate.
@MirrlyonTime
@MirrlyonTime Год назад
@@AvgJoeWatchReviews not an original thought friend but something I learned from someone else :)
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
@@MirrlyonTime regardless, thanks for sharing. 👍
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
Berny does make a regular white dial that's not luminous & it's slightly less. Also black dial available.
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Месяц назад
Second hand is MEANT to be short - that’s the design … look at the mondaine! 🙄 Jeez
@johndesmond1987
@johndesmond1987 11 месяцев назад
The timegrapher test was really in favour of the Mondaine. It had bettwe motion and less beat error. The sec/day measure is no big deal- it's trivial to adjust.
@RenoLaringo
@RenoLaringo 3 месяца назад
No mention of the tappered hands on the Mondaine? To me that's what makes this watch really stand out against the Berny.
@ludgersolbach2708
@ludgersolbach2708 16 дней назад
Didn't listen to the whole thing, so it may have been mentioned somewhere, but the hands on the Berny a clearly a little too short, especially the seconds.
@joeciganik498
@joeciganik498 Год назад
Great review as expected.
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Thanks buddy.
@evgen5647
@evgen5647 Год назад
I'm not happy with Berny finishing quality. Maybe it's only my piece, but its sides has negative curvature instead of being just flat. They are sort of concave very very slightly, which is noticalbe on sunlight only.
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@TheChzoronzon
@TheChzoronzon 18 дней назад
Weird...mine hasn't
@droobie827
@droobie827 Год назад
If Mondaine doesnt make a lumed dial they should now, steal Berny's design
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
😂 good point
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 Год назад
I don't get the Berny. It has a totally lumed dial and a different case. Why not just make their own design? Does the Mondaine have the Stop2Go feature?
@Bob_Smith19
@Bob_Smith19 Год назад
You’re funny. Chinese brands don’t make their own designs. They rip off everyone else. When they do have an original design, which is rare, they are usually horrible in many ways.
@gregalonzo747
@gregalonzo747 Год назад
@@Bob_Smith19, yeah I guess you are right. Funny thing is, I speak Mandarin fluently, yet I doubt that I would buy anything Chinese))) 😉
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Thanks for watching!!
@AguilaEmplumada
@AguilaEmplumada Год назад
damn i wish the hands were a little longer on the berny --mine is on it's way.
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Месяц назад
They aren’t meant to be - that’s the design they are copying!!
@JohnSmith-oc9iw
@JohnSmith-oc9iw Год назад
Sorry Mondaine looks much better
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
I love my Mondaine. I like it more personally.
@doobeedoo2
@doobeedoo2 5 месяцев назад
Should we pay for design?
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 3 месяца назад
Yes - designers don’t come cheap !
@jeremybenson286
@jeremybenson286 Год назад
I honestly don’t mind a homage but just can’t get past this unfortunate name of berny.🤮
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
You’re not alone. The capital of Switzerland is Bern! Drop the “Y”… that’s all you had to do. 😂
@violinmke
@violinmke Год назад
You get used to it. I own it and I have.
@darrenfry4695
@darrenfry4695 3 месяца назад
Mondaine watches are cheap enough to buy so a homage isnt needed one bit LoL but i like bernys other field watches . ( On amazon mondaine watches are as low as 90 GBP)
@palemale2501
@palemale2501 4 месяца назад
The finer Berny bracelet is called a milanese bracelet (named after the Italian city Milan)
@AlanDike
@AlanDike Месяц назад
I'm averaging less than 5 seconds a day on my Berny... It's been 8 days, 20 hours since I set the watch, and I'm a whopping 40 seconds fast compared to time.gov... Thats better than my nh35 I have in another watch, which is averaging 6 seconds a day...
@markchamberlain8468
@markchamberlain8468 9 месяцев назад
Milanese......
@raytjandra8809
@raytjandra8809 9 дней назад
I love mondaine not berny
@MirrlyonTime
@MirrlyonTime Год назад
First too ha!
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
😉👍
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