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Moneyball - It's An Unfair Game: Billy (Brad Pitt) is frustrated with the scouts when they refuse to think differently about their financial problems.
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Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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Cast: Brad Pitt, Nick Searcy, Vyto Ruginis
Screenwriter: Aaron Sorkin, Steven Zaillian
Director: Bennett Miller
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@wyomingptt 4 года назад

"...and then there's us, then there's 300 more feet of crap, then there's Pittsburgh Pirates."

@braindamage8922 3 года назад

DUDE FINALLY SOMEONE REALIZES WHAT PITTSBURGH HAS BECOME

@machinist7230 2 года назад

As bad as it is, at least they're not the Diamondbacks... Who lost 17 straight games in the 21 season.🤮

@timregan1005 23 дня назад

@@machinist7230 padres................... i guess i am a fan

@zaczaccaro6740 5 лет назад

"Who's Fabio?" "Hes a shortstop from Seattle."

@shiv3510 4 года назад

@Montana Roots No there was actually a shortstop from Seattle named Fabio

@king_supreme1102 4 года назад

That’s probably the funniest thing in here

@BryanKalloo 4 года назад

@@shiv3510 yea but I think Brad's character meant the other one

@jgalvan09 3 года назад

@@shiv3510 lmaoooo

@Pete_Finch 2 года назад

I always laugh out loud at that part

@brodhax6148 4 года назад

1:07 Barry actually was correct. He focused on the numbers, not the names. Thats exactly how Billy fixed the team, by getting the OB%, hits, HRs, etc.

@tacotom3492 4 года назад

@Daniel Treadwell the team certainly did... they always lost in big games

@hd-xc2lz 3 года назад

@Brodhax Agreed! and Billy's image of "rich teams, poor teams, crap teams and then there's us" was just a bellyaching generality that said nothing interesting or true.

@noahbaden90 3 года назад

The difference is that homeruns and RBIs don't show the clear value. You can be an incredible hitter without home runs, just ask Ichiro Suzuki, and RBIs are completely dependent on the external factors of the other players. Stats like OBP and OPS narrow the scope down to what a team really needs out of one singular player.

@EMETRL 3 года назад

@@noahbaden90 wait, in what world does ichiro not have home runs?

@noahbaden90 3 года назад

@@EMETRL I'm just saying that Ichiro has 117 homers out of his 9934 at bats and 3089 hits. Home run generation is nice to have, but you hardly need to be hitting 38 homers a season to be one of the best. HR number is a stat that shows greatness when you have it, but you don't need it to be great, and thus, overlook players that would otherwise be a great help to a team.

@66RainySuper 5 лет назад

Actor who played the scout who gave Brad Pitt resistance was excellent, not sure I’ve seen him in anything else

@chendaddy 4 года назад

I think some of these guys were actual scouts. No proof, just something I might've heard once or maybe I made it up in my own head.

@PrehistoricLEGO 4 года назад

As far as I looked, the guy you’re talking about is named Ken Medlock, and from imdb he only did to two other projects after Moneyball. Moneyball seemed to be his only major role in an iconic movie which is really sad since he looked like a really great actor, not a lot is known about him, he wasn’t a real scout btw, non of the people in this movie are

@devinbaird2470 4 года назад

Yes his portrayal was great.

@NYRican1505 4 года назад

That actor was the umpire who threw out the entire team during the brawl in the movie Major league 2 .. and he is the assistant manager for the Minnesota twins in the movie major league 3..!I guess he really knows baseball if he lands these baseball roles

@TSNAnnotator 4 года назад

@@PrehistoricLEGO He was a player before. He was hired originally as a technical advisor on the film and ended up playing a scouting role. Some of the actors in this scene have been scouts before, with the exception of one or two

@dougg2012 2 года назад

“That sounds like fortune cookie wisdom too me.” “…no, that’s just..logic.” My favorite line 😂

@suspence5832 2 года назад

Who's Fabio? 👴🏻

@kidoku 3 месяца назад

Hes a shortstop....a shortstop from Seattle

@leonardlong3129 5 лет назад

“His girlfriend is a 6. At best”

@zacharyfrank4723 4 года назад

Lmao

@cyruscuddy4934 4 года назад

Some go for the 6 and drink until she’s an 8.

@kingsasquatch 3 года назад

But she gets on base

@codyeble6764 3 года назад

We all been there...

@dangelo1369 3 года назад

@M It's also the most corrupt. FIFA scandals dwarf anything that's ever happened in MLB, NBA and NFL combined. And those leagues are older.

@JustSomeCanadianGuy 3 года назад

“Each and every man under my command owes me 100 Yankee scalps. And I want my scalps!”

@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 3 года назад

I totally agree

@Bobaklives 5 лет назад

"Who's Fabio?" "He's a short stop in Seattle."

@Dan-eh4tg 3 года назад

Brad Pitt is becoming Robert Redford before our very eyes

@jzplayinggame 5 лет назад

I think the biggest part of the movie that people missed is that the “problem” was never fixed. Boston and the other large market teams simply adopted the Athletics ideas in future seasons. The competitive advantage essentially disappeared overnight

@0412lennon 5 лет назад

Yep...they only truly had the advantage for one season

@AllUpOns 5 лет назад

Missed? It's the ending to the movie, man. No one missed it.

@whitesoxrules 4 года назад

Exactly. Thank you.

@dannytallmadge2161 4 года назад

Sorkin wrote a movie to deconstruct the Beane myth- which was really the Michael Lewis myth. This movie makes a lot more sense if you don’t assume Beane is the hero but instead a man damaged by his past who like the head scout says had it in for the whole scouting system. In that sense Beane did prevail because that entire school of thought was destroyed. The “problem” isn’t that baseball has rich teams and poor teams it’s that billy wishes that scouts hasn’t talked him into going pro. The story of Billy’s own career as a prospect is fascinating and a perfect example of the scouts getting it completely and utterly wrong. Moneyball is a revenge story.

@nombreespablo 4 года назад

Beane’s theory was to fix the problem w/o spending money. That’s how Moneyball came to fruition. At the end of the movie, he was offered a deal to manage the Red Sox and declined because that would’ve defeated the purpose of Moneyball since Boston is one of the most expensive teams in baseball. Teams with money to spend in future years used Moneyball to their advantage to be able to win w/o being the most expensive. 2015 Royals and 2017 Astros are a great example of that.

@DaveHalpernShortSale 2 года назад

"Who's Fabio?" Hilarious!

@joshdavis3743 Год назад

Don'tchaknow he is a SS for the Mariners!!

@PackerBronco 4 года назад

The thing about Fabio is that he gets on base.

@AmericasComic 4 года назад

underrated comment.

@chessmentor63 4 года назад

Fabio always gets to at least 3rd base

@justinsimon154 4 года назад

Lmfaoooo

@segasys1339 3 года назад

So he walks a lot...

@GizmoBeach 5 месяцев назад

But does Fabio talk when Billy points to him?

@daredevilseyes7493 4 года назад

"An ugly girlfriend means no confidence." A very underrated line.

@abigailbruner5790 4 года назад

It's frustrating that you don't understand even after watching that scene how absurd this sounds to agree with him. Evolution has clearly not selected for your perspective. "It's logic." Show me a being who is cruel and singularly self-serving, and I'll show you an ugly person. Beauty is form and function, and nature has much broader definitions than our petty, outdated, unscientific notions on the subject. Ever noticed how many "ugly" people there are? Did it ever occur to you that those who are truly confident and intelligent select for those attributes over the by far inferior choice of this decade's transitory notions of beauty? Is it hard to imagine that a truly confident person might select for their own happiness or for what a being brings to table to enhance their well being and success in life? While i respect why you might find a reasonable proof here, it is fascinating that you don't see how glaringly you've missed the point of the entire film about which you are commenting. I apologize if my tone is condescending or didactic. I'm fed up and want this way of thinking to leave the grand narrative. It is untrue and it is hurtful rather than helpful to our ability to thrive as a species.

@king_supreme1102 4 года назад

Abigail Bruner bruh was that really necessary for this troll comment

@abigailbruner5790 4 года назад

@@king_supreme1102 You asking why I'd give my energy to his troll comment? Because i seldom articulate what i see in the world, & it felt quite satisfying to try it out. ;)

@charlesscruffy5214 4 года назад

@@abigailbruner5790 I agree with you there Abby , Ugly girls are a sign of weakness in a ball player, They should have some fine machine on their arm

@abigailbruner5790 4 года назад

@@charlesscruffy5214 Well, advancements in A.I. claim to be exponential. Soon they can order one. Top notch, million dollar plastic. ;)

@simbasrealdaddy2830 4 года назад

If this scene is accurate, I actually have sympathy for the old scouts. There was a time when the A's were the big dog at the table. They competed for and won World Series. The idea that they had devolved into the laughing stock of MLB must have been hard to accept. Which is why it is necessary to bring in a new, fresh perspective that can see things differently.

@NJGuy1973 3 года назад

The A's were the big dog when they were owned by Walter Haas, the CEO of Levi-Strauss. Hence the "selling jeans" line. Then in 1995 the team was sold to a group with less money to sign players.

@dakkuri1 4 года назад

This scene is like life every step of the way.

@Pherecydes 3 года назад

Financial issues, people abandoning ship when you need them, a worthless peanut gallery of doubters... yeah, been there.

@goodguynow 2 года назад

I loved the dialogue in this movie makes me feel like I’m eavesdropping

@51gan788 3 года назад

Can't think how many times I've rewatched this scene

@jims512 4 месяца назад

“Who’s Fabio?” “Short stop…short stop from Seattle.” Pure gold

@Warkive 4 года назад

Old Guy1 - "Who's Fabio?" Old Guy2 - "He's a shortstop from Seattle."

@kross517 Год назад

"Whos fabio?" "Hes a shortstop for seattle." 🤣🤣

@joshdavis3743 Год назад

Most people are talking about the other lines, but I think those two were the best of the scene lol. I wonder if any of these guys lived to see fidget spinners lol.

@thefozzybear 4 года назад

Can't wait for the sequel, "Funnyball" based on the Houston Astros cheating scandal.

@anngraber9384 3 года назад

Astros weren’t the only ones that cheated, they all were doing it

@tvtitlechampion3238 3 года назад

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"-Ozzie Guillen

@mookiestewart3776 3 года назад

@@anngraber9384 lol whatever helps you sleep at night champ 😂. Your ring will be looked down upon as fake long after you’re gone. Literally no one respects you or your franchise

@Korijenkins1414 3 года назад

Now Billy Beane is gone. Sad days for Oakland ahead. He made them competitive every season, coming 1st in their division this year, 2nd every year before. They honestly need to move the team.

@Streetspeed-om5fy 3 года назад

What will moving the team do ?

@m.kennedy342 3 года назад

They don’t need to move. They have have one of the best and most loyal fanbases in the game of baseball...real diehards that I am proud to be a part of! The A’s to start need a new ballpark..or at the very least tear down that eyesore known as Mt. Davis so it looks like the coliseum I remember from my childhood. It was much nicer when it was open and you could see the hills in the background. The A’s are in a large market metro area. They need to do a much better job of generating revenue by any and all means necessary!

@martindavis9930 3 года назад

Compare Brad Pitt acting in this movie to his early stuff like Thelma and Louise. Incredible what an excellent actor he became.

@djargus 5 лет назад

Guys who care more about appearance of the players and not their abilities in playing baseball.

@BurnedSpace 5 лет назад

djargus but does he pass the eye candy test

@los17504 5 лет назад

But can he get on base?

@connorjackson7995 5 лет назад

Some MLB scouts like to look at things like that. Also with the rating of the girlfriend. They want confidence, its hard to be good in baseball withput confidence.

@djargus 5 лет назад

@@connorjackson7995 True, but it also seems like they're not getting the idea that you shouldn't care if the guy is ugly, can he play and can you make him a good professional ballplayer.

@NYG1991 4 года назад

That’s one thing with today’s game. It’s not right.

@danielrodrigues2041 3 года назад

The idea for the "Money Ball" theory started in Oakland a few years before the streak. Most of the organization was on board with it, including Art, and it had to be built over time. Not a single season as Hollywood makes it out to be.

@trevscribbles 3 года назад

Honestly, the 3rd guy ended up saying exactly what the problem was - the problem Billy goes on to repeatedly mention throughout the rest of the movie.

@evanhaskel206 4 года назад

It’s interesting how these guys did not seem to understand that they didn’t have the money to afford players who could play like the ones they lost.

@descuderovalle 4 года назад

“...If we try to play like the Yankees in here we will loose to the Yankees out there...”

@edmontonoilers4096 3 года назад

Underrated line

@wvu05 3 года назад

*lose

@tarekben5524 3 года назад

Brad Pitt is so good. Nice script too. Great movie.

@juliagregory922 4 года назад

This movie is a masterpiece

@Chrissummerill 5 лет назад

17 peoples girlfriends were a 6. At best.

@king_supreme1102 4 года назад

All the old person talk cracks me up

@toomuchdrivetothrive 4 года назад

Brilliant book and movie by a brilliant author but it is funny that Lewis (or the screenwriters) got the meaning of the jeans quote by Beane all wrong. When Billy Beane said "We're not selling jeans here" what he meant was that the team was no longer owned by the Hass family of the famed Levi Strauss company. In the A's heyday of the 80's and 90's the A's were the big spenders poaching players from other teams (Dave Henderson from the Sox, Rickey Henderson from the Yankees, etc.) with the fat checkbook of Walter Haas. Beane was on those teams.

@robertgarcia7024 4 года назад

"An ugly girlfriend means no problems"

@vernefits1953 3 года назад

passes the eye candy test LoL

@Meepmeep888 4 года назад

Passes the eye candy test

@jessedampolo 3 года назад

Fabio used to be so good when he was in Seattle, was right up there with Jeter, Nomar, and A-Rod

@Riley_Mundt 3 года назад

*A-Roid

@JasonEmerson711 3 года назад

my favorite part....who's fabio? "a shortstop...a shortstop from seattle" LMAO

@swiftslick 3 года назад

Ken Medlock kills in this scene.

@Cyclops0000 3 года назад

Anyone with common sense can walk in that room and understand they are all being dumb. None of what they said in the first 20 seconds had anything to do with playing the game but they were counting them as major factors against a player. It's like when people need a new car but their main criteria is the colour. ITS DOESN'T MATTER! Or should at the very most be the last thing you consider if you have two entirely identical options.

@albertsebastian4489 4 года назад

Who's Fabio?...shortstop from Seattle..lmfao!

@spdcrzy 3 года назад

Imagine if scouts talked like this about Vladdy Jr. and dismissed him because he wasn't a sculpted Adonis.

@mookiestewart3776 3 года назад

That’s why you can thank the A’s for squashing this type of bullshit lol

@WilliamThee4th 3 года назад

How do they have jobs? Not a single stat mentioned, just their personal player preferences... That's the worst kind of scout, one with something in mind already

@hd-xc2lz 3 года назад

Yeah, the set-up here is a tad cartoony. In real life Beane's battles with old school scouts was no doubt much more of a struggle, less revolution than trench warfare, every scout speaks in numbers.

@Korijenkins1414 4 года назад

This movie conveniently doesn't mention they had the AL MVP on their team.

@davelanger 4 года назад

Nor does it mention they had three great starters lol

@wvu05 3 года назад

The movie was based on a book written by a business journalist. Of course, he's going to wonder how a team is going to win more games after losing three of their best players. The book is very clear that player development simply means that, after the six years are up and they make it to free agency, they are going to get signed by richer teams. This is why they lost Giambi and Damon in the first place.

@beashnpull 3 года назад

He only won that MVP because Oakland had that winning steak. A-Rod hit 57 homeruns with .392OBP that season and Tejada hit only 34 homeruns with .354 OBP but won the MVP over A-Rod. A-Rod's WAR was 8.8 and Tejada's was 5.7. Also, the whole point of the movie is that they had good players while paying much less money so yeah.

@jengable4888 3 года назад

When you are in a room full of individuals who are "Just not getting it" = total frustration...

@medic3993 2 года назад

That first dude talking looks like John Wayne Gacy...

@enricorossi3968 4 года назад

"Jesus Christ I tell you you can live too long" Bill Burr line fits perfect

@indydude3367 4 года назад

This movie is about thinking differently. I sure as hell don't know jack about baseball.

@hakuei7530 3 года назад

Hey, Dr. Fauci is sitting next to Brad!

@pepsiguy52883 4 года назад

Who’s Fabio? Shortstop lol

@reptileguy8458 3 года назад

That one scout was pissing me off.

@su2sa1li4 3 года назад

Fabio is probably the blond long hair model from 90's

@PoopVintner 2 года назад

“Who’s Fabio??” “..he’s a shortstop.. he’s a shortstop from Seattle”

@jacobbenjamin325 3 года назад

I forgot the problem every time

@JoseLopez-lh7jz 2 года назад

I didn’t know Fabio played for the Mariners

@pj8324 3 года назад

"There's rich teams and there's poor teams. Then there is 50 feet of crap, and then there's us"

@darryljorden9177 3 месяца назад

So Fisher owned the team then, too?

@markforbus6794 3 года назад

Pitt should have been nominated for this role.

@hawaiifiveohoh 3 года назад

Didn't most of that team including that insane pitching rotation get found and drafted by the scouts and developed in the first place? They were great at finding Talent.

@davidkbrees 3 года назад

Barry Zito and Tim Hudson. Yes they were both drafted by the A's scouting department, under Billy's rule of drafting college pitchers. Read the book Moneyball and it explains it in great detail.

@notsauer 3 года назад

Barry Zito, Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, Dan Haren, Rich Harden, Joe Blanton. They had no shortage of talent in the rotation. But this movie is more about the FA side of things, so it makes sense I guess that they go after David Justice, Scott Hatteberg, and Jeremy Giambi in this movie. But as for the drafting, yeah, these scouts were good at it.

@knightfall209 3 года назад

Who’s Fabio 🤣

@RN-jo8zt 3 года назад

He looks best this time on entire his career

@christopherellis416 4 года назад

Brad Pitt kinda reminds me of Arthur Morgan in this film

@RUmlas 2 года назад

Someone should get an A's jeresey with Fabio's name on it.

@briankeller9153 3 года назад

the good ol boys

@phiixyn2950 2 года назад

I bet you didnt expect a reply after a year of commenting did you

@kylew.4896 4 года назад

Whose Fabio? ...he's shortstop..

@jl8138 7 месяцев назад

The problem they have to solve is understanding how Fabio got a contract with the Mariners.

@Inthatgoodway 5 лет назад

Hes a short stop from Seattle

@NotShowingOff 4 года назад

micheal cameron *nods*

@kendallevans4079 3 года назад

Grady represent everything that is old and bad in MLB

@JasonNahRealFitSG 3 года назад

Who’s Fabio? 🤣

@marinemccord1059 5 лет назад

I had a coach hit on my gf in college and it was creepy having an old man talk about her like that...maybe there’s a problem 🤷‍♂️

@charlesscruffy5214 4 года назад

If she was good looking alls well, ugly, he was doing you a favor

@charlesscruffy5214 3 года назад

@Rodzilla Sense of Humor??? LOL .. If a girl said it all well !

@ludovicforbes-tardivel8450 2 года назад

Same thing with Olson and Chapman !

@thomasbedient9191 28 дней назад

"We know what the problem is-" "Then what's the problem" *silence* They did not, in fact, know what the problem was.

@inutero10 3 года назад

The hearts a muscle.

@ada_unknown_2738 3 года назад

Dam, this sounding like my Baltimore Orioles now... all love though

@alexvlangas2142 3 года назад

Yeah it’s been rough

@dylanf3108 3 года назад

The O’s don’t actually develop good players worth poaching now though.

@renee6524 3 года назад

Okay not only is this Brad Pitt's best performance but he looks most attractive here too.

@georgeprchal3924 2 года назад

Legends of the Fall, Fight Club...

@QiuyuanChenRyan916 Год назад

Scout aren't coaches or manager, they can't be responsible for who to pick in the first place, but I guess this is the changes happening.

@huckfinn9225 2 года назад

shortstop for Seattle

@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith 2 года назад

Every session of Congress: Colorized

@sencanboz2645 2 месяца назад

2:32

@MrZackavelli 4 года назад

Damn Yankees

@bryanbl44 4 года назад

What is the problem

@user-nk7zt4qs7b 8 месяцев назад

I still wonder why Brad didn't get the statue Oscar for this role even on net is written something else. But maybe someone saw the same as me in 2012. 😢

@HajiStaxGaming 5 лет назад

Infinity

@michaelgreene582 3 года назад

Grady was a victim of his past success and expertise. He couldnt think outside the box.

@Hero-3 3 года назад

To be fair to the old guys. They did make a couple championship runs in the 80’s or was that the 90’s?

@NJGuy1973 3 года назад

The A's won the AL West in '88, '89, '90, & '92, going to the Series '88-'90 and winning it all in '89. They had Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, Rickey Henderson, Dave Stewart, Dennis Eckersley, and other notables.

@stephendean2896 4 года назад

Is there some kind code that makes all bosses jerks

@tedioussugar384 2 года назад

They aren’t even his bosses, he’s theirs. Doubly infuriating when your offensive and defensive coaches think they are better than you, the GM.

@creativechau Год назад

WHO'S FABIO

@nicksewell6642 3 года назад

So what does no girlfriend say....asking for a friend.

@carennorthcutt7724 3 года назад

Who's Fabio? A very, very nice man. Ummmmm.

@deezynar 3 года назад

I would have fired 2/3s of those guys right there. They are clueless, and taking money in exchange for stupidity. He told them exactly what is happening, what is obvious to every 8 year old baseball fan, and it bounced off of their stupid skulls. When you tell someone something obvious, something so fundamental, and they completely dismiss it, and then speak to you condescendingly, you have to tell them their services are no longer desired.

@ZakEmber 3 года назад

It says a lot about 'entrenched' management... guys who have been there so long and are so firm in their ideas that not only do they not know how to change, they are clueless as to WHY. I love this scene, because Billy cuts right to the heart of the matter, and just like a lot of zealots, they don't try to listen, they try to convince Billy that BILLY is wrong... even though he's in CHARGE, and pointing out the right problem! From a management standpoint... Billy wasn't just having a money issue in this scene, but a titanic ego problem with that whole staff. Just like you said... they were completely condescending, which makes the follow-up scene with Peter Brandt, (Jonah Hill), so damn good!

@dangelo1369 3 года назад

@@ZakEmber Scouting is always a crapshoot. Give you an idea: in 1967, the two NY teams drafted two young talents available. The Yankees drafted Ron Bloomberg (ultimately became the first DH in MLB history) and the Mets, acquired a pick from the newly relocated Atlanta Braves and picked Tom Seaver. The rest is history.

@NJGuy1973 3 года назад

@@dangelo1369 The Mets had some luck in acquiring the rights to Seaver. Luck that literally got pulled out of a hat.

@Alan-yb8kx 3 года назад

I know ntg about baseball but is the criteria of a baseball player being scouted really that shallow??

@georgeprchal3924 2 года назад

No.

@johnaldine4099 5 лет назад

This clip, at least to me, seems to take a shot at old time scouts. Yet it was these same scouts who probably found Mulder, Zito, Hudson, Chavez and Tejada, guys who had much more to do with the A's success than Scott Hatteberg or Chad Bradford.

@johnbostwick4139 3 года назад

asmr ear cleaning

@lazthegreat10 3 года назад

This boys club thing is so dumb I find it hard to believe it was ever like that, was it?

@cdvvdc3191 5 лет назад

@Mark-jv7dx 3 года назад

Moneyball works but at the end of the day, you need stars. Stars fill seats. Oakland has a good season going this year but attendance is null. Not just because it's a poor town...getting stripped of its teams surrounded by the richest areas in the country.

@sencanboz2645 2 месяца назад

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@tommytimp 3 года назад

The Moneyball model sucks. Reliance on analytics rules, but the idea that it's cool to sign a player with any kind of value for a relative pittance can suck it.