NGL, first few fights of Risen Shagaru made me tilt pretty bad. I can beat him consistently now but he's still so annoying. Risen Valstrax seems tame now.
@@Amatsu_storm_approach I don't even know what those are, I only beat the regular versions and regular special versions, still leveling up anomaly rank to max it out
I thought I was the only one who was tired from playing too much, so I decided to take a break for a few days. Turns out, this creature is just too aggressive! LOL.
@@francy6962 I mean as alot of people I have seen said those types of people are no lifers and always get carted and never go for defensive skills like defiance or divine blessings so more like egotistical world players cause old players like frontiers and shet just want to have fun
i never in world nor rise used dual blades for more than experimental hunts, but this fight enlightened me to the absolute cheese of heaven sent dual blades
The thing with Risen Shagaru and Risen Valstrax is they are relentless. They leave little breathing room while they aim lock you. Definitely harder than AT of world.
Shield HBG is a godsend for these guys, Risen Shaggy moreso, since his Shot weak-spot is much easier to target than Risen Valstrax's. Shield + Guard 5 + Embolden 3 + Tune-Up 1 = tank almost everything when they're targeting you. You just need to remember to not fire/reload when an attack is headed for you, and know when to avoid their unblockable attacks...although I swear actually blocking Shaggy's laterial wingarm swipe isn't always guaranteed. Also, the thing about Risen Shaggy is not only is he aggressive, but he SEVERELY punishes anyone who tries to counter too soon, as the video shows over and over.
The most painful experience is when you've tried your best to survive, you haven't fainted once, the monster is already weakened, and all your team mates failed you. Especially the anime protagonist. You were the chosen one. You're supposed to bring balance to the galaxy.
That was your first mistake. Relying on the anime protagonist teammate. Those fellows are typically the first to be wiped like various liquids in a ShamWow commercial in my experience with them
@@MrTreespace I mean I have done it to zinogre a ton and nargacuga, also remember you can cancel foresight slash into a sacred sheath or special sheath on the back dodge if you know they do a follow up
Reminds me of fighting the Apex monsters before sunbreak after beating the main story. Apex Arzuros one shotted me like 15 times and Rathalos also roasted me non stop, didn't even try Alex Zinogre or Mitzu because I knew I stood no chance. Apex Rathian was the only one I beat somewhat comfortably and then Arzuros after learning his whole moveset and learning to avoid the one shot smack.
@@astral4227 So when the monster is asleep, the very next attack has increased damage. Therefore, you'll want to do your weapons most powerful attack. You add bombs just for that little extra damage afterward.
@@el_sinor5709 ONLY bombs. Unless you have an actually powerful attack like great sword, funlance and heavy bowgun with the wyvern fire ammo whatever it's called. In the absence of bombs (you used all you had) a lance's charged counter or charged sweep will do too
@@astral4227 when the monster is sleeping the next attack will do increased damage (double I think, it used to be like 5 times the damage!), however only ONE hit will get the bonus. So what I think is proper sleep bombing is you always carry mega barrel bombs, when the monster is sleeping everyone puts 2 bombs near a weak spot (usually the head), there's no point in spreading them out, and then you detonate the bomb. Now this part is tricky, you have to "deal damage" to the bomb but you can't hit the monster or it will wake up and the bombs will do regular damage, so if for example you throw a kunai, it must hit the bomb and nothing else. Some people also attack the monster with their "most powerful attack", problem is, either you hit the monster with your attack, it takes extra damage (from the attack, not the bombs) and the bombs might not even explode so they're useless, or you hit the bombs, they explode launching you back so your attack was useless and you take damage... An exception is the bow's dragon piercer, if lined up well it's a great opportunity to deal extra damage and hit the bombs without taking damage (whether the bombs or the first hit of the piercer gets the bonus doesn't matter).
I do enjoy myself a quite solid furious + dragonconversion cb build with max guard, guard up and embolden. That's a consistent sub 10 min on lv250 risen shaggy. No need for health drain.
@@niklaspeter2568 WAIT!!! You're using Dragonheart, right? Since Shaggy is weakest to Dragon too (It sets all elemental resistances to 50 which is the max, thus giving ya some sweet sweet dmg numbers if you can fit it in obviously)
It's worse if you use a build that uses berserk since shugaru's frenzy virus makes your health drop way faster than normal I ended up not using my main build for BD and went to charge blade with a odd mix set built for defense
for me this guys patterns are just too interchangable and unpredictble, love the direction capcom is going but specifically with longsword for example this fight is just a barrage of attacks which can only be countered because otherwise theres no window to get an attack in so it always comes down to pressing left click in a 3 frame time window and doing that for 15 minutes is not peak fun for me tbh. you could say its the last and strongest enemy and thats nice, which makes it really sad that I have to end this game having my last fight have been too unbearable to actually learn :(
Playing multiplayer is way more difficult compared to playing solo. The monster has more HP and you constantly worry for your teammate not to die. But its very fun if you have VC though
@@arfianwismiga5912 yeah its easier if you can easily find teammate like that but with the addition of followers you can pretty much clear anything easily.
@@kitsune2712 but followers are still icky mindless robots. I specifically hunt engame content online and it's quite fun. 9/10 times there's one cart, if someone carts, and then we win.
risen shagaru is actually pretty easy and fun. Hes really fast paced he has predictable but wide range moves that require precision. His ultimate is deadly even though I use berserk, which is very rare. I think his only attack that really hits me is his hip check, but ive gotten a bit more used to the signs between that move and his energy swipe. Overall I really enjoy risen shagaru, I hope they make risen velkhana as fast or faster than him.
sorry, I realize after watching more of the video that for weapons like charge blade or maybe greatsword this guy is tough because of all his follow up attacks and jumping everywhere. With dual blades I just think dodge, dodge, dodge, spiral slash.
@@garylai363 honestly berserk IS kind of a cheat code? When I first tried using it when it came out I thought it was impossible to use and super difficult to get used to. I would get hit once and not know about switching scrolls so I would just die and I tried mixing it with dereliction and was getting murked by the health drain. I only got used to it when I started using blood rite plus kushala blessing. I ended up doing around 100 furious rajang hunts to level up from 121-220, and during that time I got very used to berserk and now it's difficult to play without it. I think for people capable of mastering it, it is definitely a cheat code but personally I think even if I didnt use it I would be fine, since I still try to avoid getting hit at all even with berserk. And having to switch scrolls immediately after getting hit can definitely cause issues so I think even without berserk I would still not get hit. I think what it is is just dual blades. Without dual blades I would get completely smoked by any of the higher tier monsters for sure. Rise in general is just too quick and the hitboxes are wild without counters or quick dashes. I tried using great sword even though I used to main great sword for 2 generations and couldnt do anything in rise with it.
@@boynextdoor931 bro I admit for me its a cheat code, it makes the game way easier. But for others I would argue that it makes their game worse. For example my girlfriend can barely maintain heaven sent, if she tried to use berserk she would die instantly. And we both use dual blades.
Monster Hunter World is hard because the monsters are fast. Rise is mostly easy but the monsters hit harder and sometime just one hit is fatal. World i couldnt solo anything late game, i really sucked. But Rise I can solo everything, the game is easy, sure the Risen Elder can be hard, but since im not a speedrunner and I play mostly defensive i can kill them no problem. Gunlance is too much fun in Rise.
there is too much people to fight this monster so its hard to see what's going on and hard to see the enemy's moves. unlike 3ds & psp generations, its easy to see the monster moves so u won't fail many times.
I didn’t find this hunt difficult but I then realized that Dual Blades make this fight a cheesefest vs using a weapon where you need to actually use your brain to dodge. Tried it with SnS and I realized why this shit was so hard. 10/10 fight though. Really fun experience overall
Why that petalace? 30 stamina over 30 health is such a weird choice especially with CB. Or is it the one with 5 more raw? either way so not worth it lol.
Why would YOU not bring ironwall and Guard Up ?? Speedrunners really have done damage to common sense in this community. If this quest is carting all of you then bring dragon res, defense7, divine blessing, etc
I had WHOLE teams cart to this Shagaru. Bloodlust lv3 is better than Shagaru's version...WORSE,this Shagaru beat a Guard lv5 guard up lv3 GL set called "E Swat", a Risen Kushala set...
1:01 imagine not running guard 5 + embolden 3 and/or doing multiplayer, so that embolden is not up all the time. Due to max guard I've become really lazy and just block if I'm not shure about the guardpoint window.
guard 5 is a fucking joke in sunbreak, i still get some knockback and chip damage with lance. i play guard5 + guard up 3 in icebourne i was chilling inside fatalis cone flame, kulve taroth's flame sea, casualy block novas with no chip damage at all but i love the new amatsu armor tho, infinite stamina and sharpness is great for lance
@@zolozoro58 yea, idk about lance but embolden basically doubles guard. That way I can block litteraly every move risen shaggy and risen strax throw at me (except the nova and the dive bomb) and still have medium knock back with cb (and cb has much less base guard than lance) Have you tried some levels of embolden? Also, yea guard up has really been nerfed. Form 1 to 3 skill points and still not blocking 100% of the damage.
@@zolozoro58 Gunlancer here. Add Embolden 3 to your build, problem solved. You can block everything in the game except Risen Valstrax and Risen Shagaru super attacks.
@@Aescavalis What. I was able to block them O_O. My build includes Guard, Guard Up and Embolden. And I can block that beams. I made my build specifically against Risen Valstrax and yeah, it blocks everything except Ambush
@2:24 why was dragon conversion listed as something that lead up to your death? The Magalas don’t have elemental attacks so whether you had DC or not you still would have died.
My best guess is that the Hunter here's build is tailored to Dragon Conversation (like adding skills like Elemental Exploit and whatnot to it ), leavin not much else space for defensive skills like Guard, Guard Up, Divine Blessing, and so on in their build ya sees.
Idk about anyone else, but with Qurious Crafting it means I get a free 0 resistance to all instead of like -20 to each element. I always try to get 1 dragon conversion on my sets after qurio.
@@skymaticsamos9478 what do you mean? Like How people don't typically use full Dereliction but actually only one level? And when it comes to late game crafting I think I'm starting to prefer equal niche skills like for make affinity builds using Wex and Latent Power or Bloodlust Chaotic weapons combo or Crit Draw Pluto max Crit Eye for draw builds like GS and LS. So instead of dereliction or dragon conversion I'll use agitator or resuscitate and Crit Element and Crit Exploit
@@SoraTsubasa What I meant was Dragon Conversion is actually a defensive skill for me (I use raw), because I have -10 to -20 to all elemental resistances on my armor after qurious crafting, hence the "sets resistances to 0" part of the skill actually nets me a HUGE positive gain in resistance
Honestly- I swear I have a problem with these games. I can die to an Anjanath and get rofled by a Basarios but for some damn reason my comfort fights have been the most bs ones (Fatalis in World and Risen Shagaru in Sunbreak)
@@HerbMandoom Oml- I know how you feel!! For me, my most hated fights are Azaros and Lagombi. They send my ass to camp constantly... the mandatory anomaly quest hurt so very much
@@destinystriumph1573 exactly! I don't have to many monsters that I hate, but Volvidon and Congalala (not in Rise) are on my "hunt as little as possible" list because of their poo attacks. Such a gross gimmick
@@HerbMandoom Yeah, I feel that one- I know it isn't accurate but my headcannon is that he sharts over your edibles and that's why you can't consume anything after you get hit by it. Also, the hardest part of Volvidon is getting to him- Is it just me or are the low tier monsters just massive pains? (I like Great Izuchi tho tbh, he's cool)
Ah yes, a perfect example of the amateur hunters that keep dying, forcing me to solo the bastard. Like playing online becomes your handicap instead of the monster's
@@el_sinor5709 Nah. Adding followers to the game was Monster Hunter's greatest addiction aside from Palamutes. Don't have to waste time with people who copy online builds but have little to no idea how to play.
@@Netherwolf6100 This is a video game, most people play it to have fun not sweat their balls off. You aren't studying for a PhD, don't take it so seriously.
@Bro Zhang When a monster drops for the first time, I go in with my strongest, most durable build designed for survivability, not damage and attack power, *ESPECIALLY* when I go online. I know full well I have no clue what the monster's new attack patterns or abilities are and I don't rush in head first, I pace myself and even gather SBs if need be. I enjoy playing online for fun and to this day, my favorite part is jumping into a low-ranked room and helping other players gather the material to craft their builds. Its fun helping others but its not fun being a determent or having one on your team that just wants to button mash can cart 3 times in 5 minutes. Basically, at some point people need to understand that there is a balance. If you want to jump into other people's hunts online, prioritize surviving, not rushing the monster if you're not above an Advanced level player. Take the experience and hunts of others in account because they want to have fun with others, but not restart the same mission over and over. One example for me is like, Risen Teostra, hard motherfer. I can fight him by myself and its not that hard, just takes 15 minutes. But I'd rather have fun with others online, provided they at least KNOW what they're doing and aren't jumping online hoping to find a good team to carry them instead because they don't know what to do, but can't carry the though forward and beyond actually being of help.
@@el_sinor5709 What? Are you offended that I call out people like you that button mash without thinking and jump into other's hunts, hoping they can carry you but you become the burden?
