Monster Hunter Wilds Insect Glaive In Depth - Moveset Gameplay Guide Breakdown & Impressions 

You gave all the info I needed! Salute to you because nobody in mh yt was trynna show IG love

​@@myshozuhouseno problem! im glad the document helps for anyone who wanted more info

Nah bro you deserve your praise for your work Thank you 🫡

Cool profile pic

​@@benturtl9076oh thank you! i actually drew it myself hehe

To be honest, in Rise Demo given builds were awful, a lot of weapons weren't capable of slaying even Mizutsune.

Yeah and that was the playable demo for home consoles, not even the show floor first look demo that Wilds is. None of these damage numbers are going to stick at all.

@@thepowerfulpaet4937 And yet HH got nerfed as the only weapon from the Rise demo while Longsword is just dummy broken easy and persistently stayed so to the point that people stopped using armor alltogether and just used 1 level of quick sheathe and still outdamaged many weapons with endgame builds.

@@SilverTwinkle Well, let's just say I have slightly higher expectations for the World team. Longsword doesn't have any business being one of the highest dps weapons in the game. It should sacrifice that for the versatility and ease of use.

@thepowerfulpaet4937 It's okay that it is the highest damage (melee) weapon... but not for 3 games straight. And i have this gut feeling that it'll be again. I wish they'd bring all the weapons a bit more in line. It took me about 3 hunts to get used to Ls. It took me over 300 hours in world to not corner doot like an idiot with HH, yet it does so little compared to a low risk weapon. Honeslty, i just hope HH will be more toward the middle damage whise. It doesn't need to be the strongest, but mastering it (outside of rise) is literally one of the hardest things to do and should be rewarded somewhat, at least. But well, let's wait and hope.

@@mayuwu4408 the reason not to be in focus mode is to let the insect stamina regenerate since it uses stamina to attack with you. Or if you let the insect attack by itself for clouds then you also dont need to use focus mode.

@@Lubedrus ahh good thinking!

I'm happy to see the mentality you have for the weapon. I'm all for making a weapon more practical and consistent to use. It looks like the difference in how IG players will deal damage is how good they are at positioning and how quickly and efficiently they can gain extracts since its possible to blow your extracts for a super powered attack. I can already see a good player taking advantage of this by figuring out the best way to interact with each monster and constantly regaining extracts with little hassle. It just sounds so fun lol

@@sobervision1049 thank you! I try to see where the devs are coming from when I can as I like thinking about things from a game design perspective. and I noticed even in Rise (although I haven't got all the fun switch skills for it yet but) that I wasn't using aerial IG the majority of the time and more when I wanted to stay out of danger but still be dealing some damage. so I'm sure I'll find a way to enjoy the weapon still. I used to liken getting my extracts to having to stop playing monster hunter and start playing a random little minigame like tetris every 90 seconds just to be able to play again. but now I've started reframing it in my mind, and it feels more like I have a moment to breathe and observe/study and size up the monster before engaging, which fits the vibes of the IG very well imo. and the shift in playstyle is interesting!! now we'll need all our extracts for the good moveset and we'll be conciously choosing to spend our extracts for that big attack rather than it just running out on its own all the time, and we have new faster more engaging ways to gather extracts since we'll need to be doing it more often which also gives more purpose to the non-powered moveset so being out of extracts more often doesn't feel quite as bad. the tempo has increased, but the lower end of it doesn't feel as bad and we have more control over it! there's lots of potential for different playstyles here!

@@thedarkwolf25 I certainly hope that isn't the case that'd be a strange choice when every other weapon is getting one. I've heard it might be getting an offset attack but I haven't been able to find any confirmation so idk, and a perfect dodge would also make a lot of sense for the weapon. Using the Vault move also makes you invulnerable for a moment according to the hunter's notes in this video, idk if that was always a thing but if not then it could be that? idk.

I heard they closed the queue 1 hour after opening. At gamescom I waited 5 hours

Prob more to do with the queues lengths. It’s prob why it was was closer to 4 hours as opposed to the 10+ at gamescom

I played at Pax West on Friday, they only had 14 stations and the line was tiny. It was so hard to get in the line. The demo was just a doshaguma hunt but we did encounter the other monsters seen in the trailers. My group couldn’t get a turf war to activate unfortunately.

I heard them talking about it and saw what you mean for the green indicator, but they're saying it's listed but it's not listed in the details where it shows each extract. What are they even talking about??

@@Vynndis they said they weren't able to find footage of a successful extract of Green. Based on the limited experience I had playing 4U, Green seems to just give you about a potion worth of health and it also takes up an extract load on your beetle, could be the reason why it was abandoned.

​@@ErdingerLiCertain types of kinsect also got stamina back after recalling with green

@@ErdingerLi it exists in world too you get heals for it

green extract was one that you got from almost tails exclusively. It was not a buffing extract, but rather a small heal that in some of the older games could be pretty decent and even restore some kinsect stamina. In WorldBorne, it was not as good because the Wide Range Kinsect from GU wasn't in the game anymore so it was often just better to sheath, pop a potion, and then fight again. In Rise, it was locked behind the Kinsect Recall Silkbind so long as the kinsect connected with the monster during the animation. Now it seems like they brought back the more consistent form of Green from the older games. TL:DR - it heals you...but not enough for you to really care about. just sheath and pop a potion if you need it. trying to aim the kinsect or the focus mode to hit the tail mid combat is a nightmare

red + white, then grab orange later to refresh red was sick. now you can't do that anymore :/

I'd say the point of jumping advancing slash, for me, was going after an enemy in the air so I can get multiple hits without dropping.

@FreelanceSeven at that point just use jumping slash. It's faster and allows you to act much sooner than jumping advancing slash. also, staying in the air now seems to be gone, so until further notice my point still stands

THIS. I'm upset them supposedly getting rid of the bounce, but them doing that and keeping the advancing slash genuine baffles me, because without the bounce it is a genuinely useless move. If you miss you miss, if you hit the monster with all your slashes your now stuck recovering as you land on the ground (unless they give you some gimmick to get out of that animation), and if you miss all your slashes and you hit the last hit you are in the same boat as the previous example except with only one hit. if they're going to switch back to non aerial combat might as well just bring back the wild slashes glaive did in 4U and GU.

my feeling while playing was basically still (also like before in world) that it's good for positioning additionally to air evade.

@wilddreams I think they mentioned an additional mid-air evade in the video, so that would be an extremely niche use.

I'd defintely pick the kinsect being more integrated with your attacks than staying up in the air

@@Bryanneo1 same

​@@Bryanneo1Its how everyone who used the weapon to have fun and not just cheese feels

@kaiok6776 if you only started in the 5th gen games, wasn't like that in 4th. We'll be fine

@kaiok6776 Deffo disappointed about the airal combo removal myself. Sure it started without in 4U but then we recieved styles in GU & Airial style IG was fun af, then they doubled down on airial for IG in World & then doubled down AGAIN in Rise so it's removal makes as much sense as eating piles of salt to stay hydrated, hopefully it's either still there but in another form or gets added back later on.

Agreed

I think its quite fair. It's easier to collect extracts now in wilds and you can even collect 3 in one go, so its still a doable feat. most IGers would always collect all 3 extracts before going oonga boonga on a monster anyways

@@foi3182 It might very well be, we'll see how it plays. However, I simply must push back against that most IGers would grab 3 extracts before fighting statement. In previous games (MH4U, MHGU, and MHWIB), we'd grab Red and White for the upgraded moveset, bonus movement, and damage. Then, as the buffs were running out you'd grab Orange to refresh the timer on all of them. Giving a casual hunter more uptime before having to fish for extracts again. Orange also happened to be quite annoying to get on some monsters... waiting to do damage until you could hit that sweet spot just didn't make sense most of the time. So, we'd just get it when needed or was otherwise convenient. In other words, we'd *frequently* oonga boonga without all 3.

​@@foi3182 you are defending this with the argument "everyone did it anyway" that is limiting choice the player has on how to play the weapon, that's boring. if everyone did it then why change it when there was a skill expression to keep your buffs up even longer by waiting to get all 3. Thankfully we know this is a very old build and the IG weapon trailer shows red buff giving the player a heavy thrust meaning red buff will still be the only thing we need for better moveset when the game comes out.

Did anyone even start fights without all 3 buffs anyway? The 15% damage increase felt pretty mandatory in the old games. At least the gathering is integrated into the regular attacks now, actually providing a reason to use non-buffed attack in the first place.

So true it was legit half it's identity.

exactly, like if I want ground gameplay, I can go SA, or LS, or HH, or CB, or any of the other ones that can do way more damage on the ground already anyways!.. IG always traded some damage for its aerial maneuverability and positioning, but now they want it to be more grounded to be more like the rest of the grounded weapons but now with some flashy new moves. There just has to be something we are missing...there has to be.

Exactly bro like its been a core part of the weapon for like 10 years on top of this they removed the option to get buffs from red and earplugs from the other buffs. ON TOP OF CHANGING ITS INFINITE. Why capcome???????

@@Lubedrus In Sunbreak, aerial was the highest DPS playstyle of IG and was actually both fun and strong. It feels like they mastered its identity there, and to take it away is just a step back.

​@@Lubedrus But why implement it and fine tune it in other games? Rise had the perfect solution (kinsect slash to be precise)

Yes, this actually started with MH Rise where L2 is assigned to wirebug aiming. And in that game you cannot remap it. Focus Mode seems to be a similar central combat mechanic, so sadly I feel like it's not gonna be remappable in Wilds. I got used to it pretty quickly on in Rise tho.

There is a skill that increases bow charge level though, isn't there?

Yeah there was a bow charge skill in worldborne but I can't remember if rise had it

@@alexasarthur there was. In rise you had to do all the arena quests to unlock it, and it had only that skill and no slots. In sunbreak it was turned into a 4slot deco and isnt in any charm or qurio skill pools.

I mean, if you want to bounce back up/helicopter, you don't care about efficiency anyways. So having to slot it in really doesn't seem too bad. If you wanna be efficient, the bounce being removed is a buff already.

Ig mains could join their gen 4 buddies in having mandatory skills (capacity boost, load shells, etc). Seriously tho hope it doesn’t come to that

Wait where is this video can u maybe be more clear like wat channel and video u r talking about

@@Darthforce122 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rYogeQ_Klpg.htmlsi=Oq6L9-lGgUclBLYJ it happens at like 7:04

I just watched miyabi's 8 min video to look for this and didn't see any air popups, is there another video with more footage or did I just completely miss it?

@@SectionRatioTile It’s at 7:04 in their video, it’s not very flashy but they didn’t hit a weak point and didn’t have triple buff so there’s probably more to the move as well

@@epichi104 I just watched it aswell. The thing about what ur talking about is that it isnt like a damaging attack u just push of the monster, this means no chaining aerial attacks still if u did like some damage and bounced then we have something but because u just pushed off it means when u do, do an attack ull still fall

I was thinking the same thing. It would be dope if we could cancel into other aerial attacks though

Guy mashed circle and got locked in jumping slash, pay attention to inputs at 15:10, there are options there

It almost looks like that animation is unfinished, with how you freeze up.

There's footage that shows the button guide on the top right showing all the typical aerial options after the Rising Spiral Slash, including the Midair Evade. In this vid, whoever's playing is likely just mashing circle and ended up following the Rising Spiral with a normal Jumping Slash (it's why the animation just looks "frozen" too at the end, bro was mashing lol)

@@TheMoonman4 Yeah I'm really not convinced at all by this doomposting until the game releases.

@@TheMoonman4 yeah if you can dodge out or like a cultured player press Y to spin to win down that would be peak glaive

@@CatLordSix you probably won't be able to "spin to win" down since that's the strong version of the Jumping Slash I mentioned and Rising Spiral ends all your buffs (unless there's a way to recall kinsect to get the buffs you gathered in mid-air, kinda doubt it though)

May as well call it the pole staff now.

It’s not the end of the world, dude. I almost never use the IG’s aerial capabilities for anything other then mounting monsters so that doesn’t really effect me in any way.

​@KatanaJoelleLandt Cool, happy for you! Perhaps in the future, you could learn to consider someone else's point of view _before_ dismissing it out of hand.

I'm extremelly sad, they killed diving wyvern

@@Braxmegaman Most "IG mains" whining about this aerial change dismiss the rest of the weapon's moveset in favor of just killing their sharpness and doing no damage helicoptering around monsters (not even building up to mounts as effectively as just spamming the normal Jumping Slash lmao)

I almost never use the IG’s aerial capabilities for anything other then mounting monsters so that doesn’t really effect me in any way.

I loved going into airial combat against Rathalos, giving him the final smack or cutting his tail right in the air and enjoying it smash into the ground. I will miss that! Maybe LS helmsplitter is the new airial combat move.

@@KatanaJoelleLandt OK. I hope you have fun. I don't know why you are making this comment on multiple posts.

@@KatanaJoelleLandt good God, nobody cares about your extremely personal and narrow point of view. We simple want our options back.

Especially after they added the kinsect damage rampage deco that made AKA do really respectable damage. Kinsect Slash aerial with dive was great, AKA with powder vortex was also super fun, or AKA with an assist bug to regain triple super fast. Only weak points I think were speed types still needed something, and Leaping Advancing Slash (helicopter) was just not as good compared to KS.

I almost never use the IG’s aerial capabilities for anything other then mounting monsters so that doesn’t really effect me in any way.

@@KatanaJoelleLandtso your a bad ig user or you don’t use it at all noted

@@KatanaJoelleLandt more power to you, but just because you have no issues doesn't man the rest of us don't

@@AkenoAkine I’m not bad, I just use it differently.

Really? The weapon who has a entire extra "character" to it only had identity because of vaulting dance? You make me sad.

For me, the thing that mattered most was the fact that it was a cool glaive that you spin around a bunch. I'm super excited for the changes and will probably start off playing it

​@@nayd5043Man, everyone i see someone denying that being aerial isn't the identity of IG, i just ask? Just as Lance is the defensive weapon and DB is the fast weapon, how people call IG?

@@nayd5043the bug has been a side thing for a while. It felt like a stop in the action to get your extracts up. Gen 5 making it the aerial weapon was huge for it, especially since gen 5 is when a majority of the fans came in, sorry. Bouncing was fun and they shouldn’t have gotten rid of it.

@@barmacidic2257 not at all, the bug does a lot in Rise and will do even more on this version since you can directly control it. Awakened Kinsect attack, Powder Vortex and Kinsect Charge in MHR all make great use of the kinsect, and there is even a silkbind that moves you to the kinsect location that can be used to make aerial combos faster. It had the kinsect for MANY more games than 1 move, for gathering, dust clouds and animation canceling.

I was wondering that but I feel like the movelist deconfirms that. Surely if that were a thing there'd be something mentioning that in the movelist, right? At this point I think the only thing that could bring back dancing vault is maybe a kinsect type that lets you bounce as its unique property or something. But at this point it's probably safe to assume aerial bounce is dead.

@@0ceankingI mean there was stuff for SnS that just wasn’t in the movelist that people found

It might simply have been something like "we don't like how Wilds plays with aerial hitboxes and its taking to much dev time to fix them" Or It's simply our incentive to use focus mode But ultimately look around, wilds has generally leaned much harder into realism and less into fantasy moves. That's probably the real reason.

@@The_Philosophoenix Realism is definitely not the case, otherwise LS would lose half its moveset and Bow wouldn't have magical lock-on arrows. Magical slashes that appear after a single hit from your sword is so far from the realm of realism, terrible justification. MH at its core is fantasy with a functional ecosystem, not a realistic experience of hunting giant oversized monsters that can do all sorts of whacky shit. Realism would also detract from GL, Bow, the Bow Guns, and a decidedly large portion of the weapons in the game. Propelling yourself in the air using momentum and a glorified pole, is one of the least egregious fantasy elements of the series. I believe the term you're looking for is 'grounded' not realistic. But even that isn't the case, in my opinion. Wilds look to be a cross between the grounded nature of World, but with the added whackiness of Rise, albeit at a reduced nature.

@ManlyPicnics the tech is different from the physical capabilities of the hunter. Wilds has comparatively slow, impactful moves on many weapons, struggles with the clash, all that. Things are even a bit bleaker this time around, with a trailers were monsters invade a village - not to mention we seem to have a child in tow that we probably need to safeguard. Additionally camps can and will be destroyed- a frankly horrible thought in a universe that contains deviljho, if you ask me. Defying physics in the air is a Different vibe altogether. If IG was a tech weapon (all ours are btw salvaged from the ancient civilisation, the guild doesn't know exactly how half of it even works) then I wouldn't argue. But it's not, and without something like wirebugs propelling us, what is even keeping us in the air ?

Spamming decent trust is the closest we have imo Still want helicopter helicopter 🚁🚁🚁🚁 paracopter paracopter tho

Ppl be talking about how ground IG is the most dps way to play it, but i js want to enjoy playing helicopter, because not everyone is hardcore players 🙃

@@ChibiNaruto what I don't get is in rise they fixed this problem why delete it

@blue Removing playing options, or should i say removing something majority of players favor about, makes no sense at all. If aerial combat is too strong, nerf the dmg number, if it's too weak, buff it or add in other viable alternative combat options like those we see in MHWild Completely removing aerial bounce is the last thing they should be doing, because it's dumb😅

@@bluefiredemon448 And they made a *less* committal and *safer* attack the way to that better DPS. They could easily have just buffed JAS further in Rise and had it blaze past grounded DPS while *still* being riskier due to needing to commit 2 seconds to every attack>bounce. And if that's too good, lacking a wirebug makes it even more committal since you can't just charge aerial damage that way. So if we still need 3 bounces to get the most out of a vault combo that's plenty of room for monster knowledge and skill expression (there already was enough, this is just more). And if it truly just flies too high somehow... Just increase the speed JAS falls at or IG's general gravity or just the jump height to being with. I don't mind *climbing* my monsters like I'm playing Tonfas. Just let me BOUNCE

You only have the pogo Stick move from IB, not divine wyvern from Sunbreak

Ooohh which allows us to follow up with the new rising spirit slash if we have all three extracts… interesting🧐

Or the opposite?!?? Rising spirit slash to descending thrust😧

​@ssj409-2 you lose all extract after rising spirit slash

Unless I am confusing the name, Descending thrust, as Added in Iceborne, is in Wilds, Its shown at the end of the Glaive teaser.

Also changing the fact that you don’t get your strong attacks from red extract anymore is sad. Getting rid of the infinite that it used to have on top of the earplugs as well. Why did something like longsword get nothing but buffs but insect glaive got nothing but nerfs.😢

@@werecoth descending thrust is vault, dive thrust with a kinsect mark that can be followed by a tornado slash (r2+x, r2). it looks like we can do descending slash this time (r2+hold O)

@CaptainOtep ugh, I am terrible with names. Is Descending slash not the move where you spin down striking the monster multiple times on the way to the ground? I went back to doubled check the wilds Glaive teaser and is that not Descending thrust followed by tornado slash at the around the 45 sec mark? The hunter thrust straight down, notably attacking with the blunt end as the blade moves so a ''pneumatic'' burst similar to an air dash can propel the hunter straight down to impale the monster and when he hits the ground he goes into a tornado slash ground combo. The kinsect notably attacks in tandem on the dive and hits the monsters head but bounces back instead of piercing through.

@@werecoth That is correct. If you look at some of the english footage, it is shown as Descending Thrust on the guide in the top right.

Ppl argue about how IG should be played on ground to get higher dmg output... If that's the case, it makes totally no sense to remove aerial gameplay. By keeping aerial bounce, those hardcore players can still have their way on the ground, the rest of the others who favor aerial can continue helicopter the monster. This is called options, and removing options is definitely a stupid thing to do

I almost never use the IG’s aerial capabilities for anything other then mounting monsters so that doesn’t really effect me in any way.

​@@KatanaJoelleLandt ... so you won't miss anything. Good for you! But we others will def miss it. Please have some sympathy!

@@KatanaJoelleLandt Can you post your one-sided opinion under every single comment, please? There are quite a few messages you missed.

@@KatanaJoelleLandt Yeah I mean its not very useful for dps, however its still good to reach flying monsters and most importantly it's really FUN!!!

Arsxenne has a yt chanel. Look at it there.

the document that this video is quoting from is not the be all end all. You should definitely try to learn all the facts from it you didn't know yet, like vault getting s which is huge🤯 but also ignore the opinions and assume he missed something. it was a lot of time and effort to make this document which should be commended, but he's still a human that makes mistakes and from my experience being online, 9/10 people who try to make meta analysis of something are not competent in doing so, usually being oblivious to concepts that are vital in identifying certain values, like saying damage is low is a huge yikes. is this his first monster hunter demo? 😂

I almost never use the IG’s aerial capabilities for anything other then mounting monsters so that doesn’t really effect me in any way.

@@KatanaJoelleLandt Can you post your one-sided opinion under every single comment, please? There are quite a few messages you missed.

​​@@KatanaJoelleLandt good for you buddy. Aerial was the whole reason I played insect glaive so it absolutely sucks for me.

@@sheogoya9660 Love to, but I’m not a bot so I can only do so much.

We hope, but what ? IG seems to not have clash attacks or perfect dodge, like other weapons, so what do we have ?

It's just armor skills

Heard that, too. Think the devs said so at GamesCom.

Yes please

It's not from base rise, only sunbreak kinsects have it, therefore probably only master rank kinsects will have ultimate attacks, I really hope I'm wrong with this prediction.

But they took our dessert😢

Yea were crying instead 😢

Not starving. Just keep playing World and Rise for the bounce!

@@maddo-hq9jr I actually prefer the more grounded playstyle, I meant we finally have some glaive content because it was really hard to find from the people who played the demo lol

@@maddo-hq9jr but we want to play wilds?

You mean the kinsect's ultimates? Wasn't that sunbreak stuff? I loved it but probably they will reserve it for master rank again, I hope I'm wrong.

No earplugs, instead flinch free

@@The_Philosophoenix lame