Montaigne, On Friendship: Ellie Anderson and David Peña-Guzmán

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Dr. Ellie Anderson and Dr. David Peña-Guzmán, philosophy professors and co-hosts of Overthink podcast, discuss Michel de Montaigne’s famous essay, “On Friendship”. Ellie and David give some context for the text through Montaigne's friendship with Étienne de la Boétie and how la Boétie's death shaped Montaigne’s creation of the essay form. They attempt to answer some questions that arise from the text: do love and friendship require or follow reason? Can one be platonically polyamorous-have more than one true friend? How does Montaigne’s theory of friendship diverge from Aristotle’s, and how does it form a critique of universalism in ancient philosophy more broadly?
Graphics and editing by Aaron Morgan
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8 янв 2024

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@bourdieufan7433 6 месяцев назад

the coolest philosophers in the game

@Dino_Medici 6 месяцев назад

Green suit for the win

@tjberrian 6 месяцев назад

The commitment to not being self-contradictory is just *chef’s kiss*. Love the vibes.

@qtaroj Месяц назад

love the ending - searching is re-searching!!

@rhiyabhattacharyya880 6 месяцев назад

I honestly love your discussion sessions. They are sooo wholesome. Please keep them coming ❤

@DemetriosKongas 6 месяцев назад

I think that the friendship between Marx and Engels was exemplary in terms of mutual admiration and intellectual cooperation. They were also ‘comrades-in-arms’ for a society of justice and equality. In their friendship, it is true that Engels supported Marx and his family financially, without which he would probably not be able to write his magna opera.

@robertalenrichter 6 месяцев назад

Another interesting conversation. I've heard and read about Montaigne in French media over the years, but had no idea about this extreme conception of friendship. However, I also believe that there is a hidden meaning or purpose in life, so that was his experience. Can't even imagine being fused with someone, and who wants to feel like "half a person" afterwards?

@MandyMoorehol 6 месяцев назад

Montaigne’s essay On Smells inspired my book lol

@stephanesigouin2049 6 месяцев назад

Très intéressant. Vous êtes mes amis imparfaits préférés.

@Jay_The_Cat 6 месяцев назад

Dr. Ellie! 🧠🧠🧠💪💪💪 Dr. David! 🧠🧠🧠💅💅💅

@sierramaestra4998 6 месяцев назад

I was looking to buy penguin great ideas of "on friendship". Thanks this is a great overview before I read it

@jessukawska5245 6 месяцев назад

I read a French blog about their relationship; honestly felt like a wattpad fanfiction... all the citations were suggesting one thing. Also I honestly recommend you to check on Virginia Woolf's essay Montaigne published in The Common Reader. I wrote a piece on their essayistic style of writing and similarity regarding defining what obstacles a person creating an honest essay is finding.

@Verulam1626 3 месяца назад

Hi. I would love to read your piece. Can you send it via email, or?

@manuelfcasas3472 6 месяцев назад

Montaigne's ideas are always worth pondering about. It would be interesting to compare, in Montaigne's view, friendship and love and how one influences, encourages or hinders the other. They are two feelings which boundaries are frequently tricky to establish with precision.

@hellebartelsen8208 6 месяцев назад

By "love" do you mean romantic love or Eros? Because friendship is also love.

@wildukind442 6 месяцев назад

Friendship will be the last family in the dying West - Oswald Spengler

@bijaypandey9218 Месяц назад

What about Shakespeare's view on friendship?

@firesalamander4795 6 месяцев назад

Woo the nails 💅

@sara-fy2tm Месяц назад

Montaigne was such a Pisces

@priapsus 6 месяцев назад

I have had one friend (who, sadly, also died young) in my life, like de La Boetie. There was nothing sexual about it, so none of this sounds strange to my ears and, unless there is some historical evidence to the contrary, one needn't jump to the conclusion that there was something "sexual" between Montaigne and de La Boetie. Having read the essay, I am even less inclined to believe so.

@adriangee4272 6 месяцев назад

Marissa G Franco's Platonic is a great modern book on platonic relationships.

@bobcabot 6 месяцев назад

plz read Lindemann´s essay " Was ich liebe..."

@emmakorb5990 4 месяца назад

Ellie is so Drew Barrymore coded

@christiansmith-of7dt 6 месяцев назад

You are better people than me , now you owe me money

@mikeycham3643 6 месяцев назад

I get why folks think you're dating. Watching y'all figure shit out together, is adorable.

@brenkelly8163 6 месяцев назад

I’m certain attacking the people means you listened to nothing on the subject.

@Gemelli_ar 3 месяца назад

That's all you got out this video? Smh

@MrJamesdryable 6 месяцев назад

I am not a rapper.

@crackedcoco 6 месяцев назад

Guys, I love your videos. Can you please please please color grade your vids? Your color profile is very very flat.

@brenkelly8163 6 месяцев назад

Incredible to know that essay was created in the 1500s in France. Socrates had been dead for 1800 years, and there was absolutely no tradition carried on between his death and 1200. There was just a massive frozen wasteland to the north of the Greeks who wouldn’t go up there because it was full of “pink barbarians.”So how was this “tradition” transmitted generation after generation when everyone was illiterate? How Western is Western Civilization when the uncivilized Anglo illiterate pink barbarians invaded the Celtic aisles starting 450 AD, killing the Celts who were learning to read and being Christianized. Look, I don’t care if the French, British and Germans stole Greek ideas 1,800 after they died, but anyone could have stolen them.