I think matheson is getting moved this off season, his value is higher than it will ever be and we have a defensive log jam. Somones getting moved and its the oldest guy. Maybe not for Necas because carolina wants more than just Mathesen but probably for a decent prosecpect.
@@viclevis Matheson played more games and plays more minutes in said games, and he has 11 goals to 51 assists compared to Necas's near even split. Add the fact that Matheson had his best season by far this season almost doubling his personal best and more than doubling his personal best season who had a similar amount of games played. Meanwhile Necas had a down season for his standards then got 9 points in 11 playoffs games, with once again an even split of goals and assists.
For the last 6 month I call Matheson for Necas… the lower cost of Matheson for what he give you fit so much with Tom Dundon philosophy. That’s why I believe a one for one deal would work.
Necas is already hitting 70 points and hes not even in his prime yet. Which means.....he hasnt even hit his full potential yet. Guhle for necas is a fair trade and im not even a canes fan.
I would trade MM for Necus. maybe add Dvo for a draft pick. I like both MM and Dvo but space is limited on the Habs blue line and if you're adding Necus you have two too many centers.
Guhle is untouchable. Personally, I wouldn't trade Matheson, either. 62 points for a defence man with a bottom feeder team. 30 years old with a "reasonable" contract with term. Also a mature leader in the room and on the ice who is happy playing for Montreal. I would trade him (or David Savard) for two 1st round draft picks and that's it! Good defence is a great commodity to have. One only needs to look at the playoffs to see that. The Canadiens are in good shape in that department. You don't plug a hole by creating another one.
I would focus on Rutger Mcgroarty. Jets need a dman and I'm sure the price will be lower than Necas. Maybe Jets will consider Matherson + 2nd round or late 1st round for Mcgroarty. This guy is a leader and can be as good as Adam Fantilli.
So let’s say Guhke does turn into a Weber esk player Montreal loses this trade handily . As a rebuilding team you do not trade projected top 4 studs who play amazing D with very good offensive instincts for a middle 6 winger with 1 ok season under his belt on a power house team . Silly imo if I was trading Guhke it would be for a bonafide star , yes they will need to sweeten it but that is why they’ve collected picks
are you aware that necas isnt even in his prime yet? he hasnt hit his full potential. so saying that......hes hit 71 points not being in his prime......which means......his value is going to be high.
I would move matheson over guhle. But regardless of adding a guy like necas they still should draft a forward at pick 5. I would only trade guhle if his contract extension demands are more than $5 million per season.
Tbh, just stay away from Necas and Zegras. The price is too high for them right now. They need to look at McGoarty ( I don’t know how to properly spell his name lol) or a Marco Rossi. Even I would see what the Jackets would want for Fantilli. Price would be high, but Fantilli is amazing compared to them both. I would trade the 5th overall pick plus a few other assets for Fantilli. We will see what happens. But just remember Hughes is there for a reason.
The notion of the "hockey trade" is nonsensical. Why don't people just describe what they mean using normal words? They want to trade for players that could help their roster now. All trades are "hockey trades" in one way or another. Even a salary dump is to open up cap space to add a "hockey player." It's just silly. I think if they're going to trade Matheson it should be for a top 10 pick. New Jersey's maybe? Otherwise a first isn't enough. I would not trade Guhle for Necas.
Guhle..no. Part of the on going rebuild. Matheson... maybe. But only equal for equal value: Dave Savard ! if he s not too old.. Honda Civic? Strudel/Harris ? yes
Pass on necas big time pass , he will want to much money coming off a down year and the team loses all leverage if you just traded for him . Matheson had more points then necas last season . Montreal can look elsewhere for help in the top 6 . Newhook looked good on that second line ,dach needs to stay healthy , and no need to force roy into the top 6 , montreal has to get 1 maybe 2, 2nd line players ,I don't think hughes trades nor necas , the value isn't there. My call is Laine, short term commitment and can get him for a decent price .
Stop mtl dont draft a left d they dont need another one they need RW and RD and mattheson is going to be trade for New jersey for their 10th pick and i prefer Patrick laine beacause only 2 year left but if we sign necas and he choke like anderson we are stuck with him for 7 years at 7 millions is worst than anderson
well, it already got reported zegras isnt going to montreal. Anaheim said the only way theyll trade zegras to montreal is if they get reinbacher in return. Carolina wants top players for necas.....but no picks. So if you arent willing to trade players.....then expect necas wont be going to montreal either
@@yourfate92 look, we don't need to sign an establish winger. I'm ok with just developing the team another year. Let's hope a young prospect comes up instead of giving away a promising defense..
Trading Guhle for a top6 player may give Montreal the opportunity to draft Buium which would likely become Montreal top 1 defenseman within 3 years. He has a much higher celling than Guhle, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Hutson and Matheson. This is a good year to draft a defenseman compared to last year which was a good year to draft a forward. But I still doubt that Hughes would trade either Guhle or Matheson !!!
@@powers1500 Finally someone smart. Guhle is good but over rated imo. Plus he already had two concussions so far so I say let's do it for Necas anytime and then we draft Buium which is a huge upgrade on Guhle.
you guys got to make some kind of moves. Zegras is not going to montreal either. Anaheim said the only way theyll trade zegras to montreal is if anaheim gets reinbacher
@@robertl8481 right but Xhakaj at best he is a #5. Guhlee in the other hand its seeing a core player on this team. someone they want to commit long term. so its different
nope. That wouldnt work. Necas isnt even in his prime yet and hes already getting 70 points. matheson would be no where good enough for a 1 for 1 trade for necas lmao
If MTL really wants Necas, they should trade either one period. You can’t keep all these guys. Like mentioned, you can always draft a top four defenceman. If Necas is valued way better than the upcoming draft forwards, there is no question MTL should do this trade.
if you want zegras? anaheim said they want reinbacher. If anaheim doesnt get reinbacher.......they wont trade zegras to montreal. Theyve already said that. if you want necas? hes not in his prime yet and hes already getting 70 points......hes going to cost a lot dude. no way around it.
the Jets are no dummies, they know what the have in McGroarty. the asking price will be astronomical. Hudson ? Guhle? I hate to say but Ill think about it really hard.. there's some really solid D-man available in this draft. Buium's a very similar player to Hudson maybe even better.
It’s absurd to me how little respect Matheson gets. ANY contender (which Carolina still aims to be) would absolutely be interested in acquiring a 60-point D who can handle top pairing minutes and skate like the wind while earning well under $5M for two more seasons. This is by far the most valuable trade chip we have if we’re dealing with a team that’s in WIN NOW mode.
The only one I'm not trading is Guhle (unless the Habs are VERY concerned about his health). Main reason being if you trade Guhle...then it probably means Matheson sticks around until the end of his contract, as Guhle is the only one who can play his minutes right now. I'd be hesitant to give Matheson, because I think he allows everyone to play in their correct spot for development, and I'd rather trade him next summer. But I'm still open to talk about it, and would probably pull the trigger in the end. Should Demidov go in the Top-4, I'd even be open to talk about Lane Hutson. Trading Hutson for Necas and picking Buium at 5 does sound like an upgrade to me + it allows the Habs to trade Matheson at the deadline or next summer, gives you time to evaluate Guhle's health, while Xhekaj, Harris, Struble can hold the forth while Engstrom spend the year in Laval and Buium spends a year in NCAA. I mean...as much as I like Hutson and want to keep him, that's not a bad scenario.
you got to give to get. If Habs have a position jammed packed in talent its leftshot dmen. Reinbacher or Mailleux can step up and take over future #1 team dman if Guhle goes. Habs do get back a potential top overall forward on the team. Or go draft Dickenson at #5 and u got your top stud leftshot dman again if Demidov is gone or have a Necas & Sennecke or Iginla future top 6 pairing which would be scarey good. I would still go out and try and land McGroarty as well. The assets are there to trade or there to step in if a roster position is needed. This is how Championship teams are built. Nice to have the "next man up" franchise talent when needed. Although Guhle is a personal favourite which stings......
Keep Buuim, Guhli, Reinbacher, Hutson, amazing core right there,the Jackeye can't spell and strubble... Then with time you chance the bottom 2 for newer younger players, solid D man, thst's how you're gona wiin Cups with a very good top 6 of course.
Carolina is not trading Necas for a defenseman. They aren't in nearly as much need for defenseman as the narrative would have us believe. But I'm a big Canes fan and I know how the front office here thinks. We've got 5 solid Dman under contract right now. We will sign a free agent for our 6th. Necas will be traded for a comparable forward or not at all. And frankly Montreal doesn't have any of those that they'd be willing to part with. For Seattle, Beniers or Wright could potentially get a deal done.
We have to trade good players to get good players, so I’m not totally against moving guhle, but my only fear with that is guhle is already in the nhl and is very good, he’s gonna be a solid top 4 d for Montreal for a long time, now I’m not to worried about our defence we have a lot of good young prospects, but a lot of them have not played a game in the nhl, where as guhle has been here for 2 years and been good, so i just get a bit nervous trading a guy like that away, necas is good, I would like to have necas, I’d prefer to give up just matheson and something else then give up guhle, but I’m not saying I wouldn’t move guhle I would just be very careful
if you want a player who has high potential......its going to cost a lot. Anaheim said the ONLY way theyll trade zegras to montreal is if montreal trades reinbacher
They will still have 7 Left D after the trade. Matheson/Guhle, Hutson, Xhekaj, Harris, Struble, and prospects Engstrom, Trudeau. So they can still pick a Forward at 5th. But all of a sudden the Right side D become stronger than the left with "studs" Reinbacher and Mailloux
We don't need 3 top pairing D's at every spots and not all D spots need to be promissingp prospects. Reinbacher and Mailloux are two great top 4 options and the last line can be filled by a veteran like Wideman or Kovacevic. We could even move Xhekaj to the right on the third pairing if he's not traded that would be a great roster.
I wouldn't let Matheson go, habs needs him to guide the young guy. Necas doesn'y worth Ghule... I don't even thing Necas is a 1st liner... he's a second liner at best and Ghule is a 1 first pair caliber.
he is going dude. The canes dont have cap for both necas and guentzel. So its either you keep necas......let guentzel walk in free agency. Or you keep guentzel......and trade necas.
@@RM-mh6jc its not like he is a free agent July 1st. LMAO. haha! he is a RFA ! he has to wait at least 2 more years. so yea no rush for the Canes to get rid of him for a garbage deal. if he doesn't want to sign let him sit home - like many teams do with players who refuse to sign.
@@RM-mh6jc exactly! so why trade him if it's not the right deal for them? you dont understand he is under team control for another 2 years! he is not going anywhere. theyre not giving him away
Here’s the problem I see is; 1) They can’t afford to resign him, (Canes), so why would we over pay for him. 2) Not giving Guhle nor Matheson no matter what, he’s not worth a solid D like Matheson, and a Future 1 D on any team in 1-2 yrs from now. 3) Has Necas proven that he’s that good Consuelo he has around him!
Weber had the luxury of being a pylon! He just had to stand in front of the net and players would avoid him like when you try to touch two positive ended magnets together😂
I love how much Habs fans overrate Ghule. He’s a 4 or 5 defenceman. He’s easily replicable and if the Canes give up Necas for him they would be crazy. The Habs have nothing to give them worth Necas value.
