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Moog Subharmonicon | Two Years Later 

Cinematic Laboratory
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When the 'Sub' was launched in 2020, I did not feel it was my thing. But I was also missing two years of experience. In my last video I rediscovered the Mother-32 when I added a Warps and joined it with the 0-Coast.
I usually hear Subharmonicon making 'organ' sounds and simple (but intricate) polyrhythms. It's a great design, but it just did not suit my experimental cinematic/westcoast style. Then I realized that in modular, it's not the module that makes the sound, it's the sum of all modules involved. Just looking at the patchpanel triggered my curiousity so I decided to get a 'Sub' instead of a Mavis. Just fooling around with it for a day, but the results are amazing. To be continued!

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Комментарии : 93   
@davidowle3772
@davidowle3772 2 года назад
This is the best Subharmonicon video on RU-vid.
@MimiAdamson
@MimiAdamson Год назад
Yes, it is!
@christopher_ecclestone
@christopher_ecclestone 5 месяцев назад
It's probably the best modular channel on RU-vid. And the guy's really helpful too if you have questions. He seems like a really good fella.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 26 дней назад
@@christopher_ecclestone I am not so bad :).
@gridus5380
@gridus5380 Год назад
Got to stop watching videos like this. Now all i want to do is go home and play with my sub..instead its a night out... lol... this machine is magical. It is the first one i start with when i want to create an atmospheric backdrop to a tune. Its also a love hate relationship. Sometimes i just stare at it and think...why...
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 26 дней назад
I can completely relate to this :) Sorry for the late reply. I try to read as much as I can, but a cool comment is easy overlooked....
@chrisburbul
@chrisburbul 27 дней назад
Fantastic video! The content is super informative and inspiring and I really dig the way you present it with text instead of voice over. Bravo and thank you!
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 26 дней назад
Wow, thanks so much!
@chrisburbul
@chrisburbul 26 дней назад
You are most welcome!
@MimiAdamson
@MimiAdamson Год назад
Brilliant, inspiring, instructive! Thank you.
@AlchemicalAudio
@AlchemicalAudio Год назад
Nice video with a unique production vibe. Intimate and informative, while keeping the focus on the sounds. Good job
@nolake
@nolake Год назад
Love the atmospheric and almost ethereal vibes you’ve crafted with that Sub. Nice space ambient soundscape.
@stujay
@stujay 2 года назад
Watching your videos is as good as meditating.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Wow, thank you Stu! Indeed it is. I lost quite a few hours patching things up. What looks like a few minutes on video, sometimes took hours in real life. But it's such a great hobby.
@0VRLNDR
@0VRLNDR 2 года назад
@@CinematicLaboratory making something look effortless takes a TON of effort. I’m with Stu
@quantumcadillac4748
@quantumcadillac4748 2 года назад
Inspiring as always. Thanks!
@justanothersounddiary
@justanothersounddiary Год назад
Love the sound - very Krell, thanks for inspiring!
@danielcarlsson615
@danielcarlsson615 2 года назад
Awesome as usual. Sitting in my dark room and put it up on the tv and thx sound. Just sooo nice 😊
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing this! It's amazing to know my videos have added value like this.
@mistergenerator5430
@mistergenerator5430 Год назад
Inspirational video. Thanks for sharing.
@christopher_ecclestone
@christopher_ecclestone 3 месяца назад
Outstanding!
@moonandmelodies
@moonandmelodies 7 месяцев назад
Sounds great! Kudos!
@kaykramer9045
@kaykramer9045 Год назад
Great ideas! Thanks a lot. This is quite a lot to process 😀
@chitlun
@chitlun Год назад
Wow! This is ace… I have a SubH, various other semi-modular synths and have just ordered my first case and modules. Two of the ones I’ve ordered are Maths & Pam’s New Workout… I expect sleep is going to be a rare commodity for a while! Excellent video man, cheers! 👍
@CaughtInJoy
@CaughtInJoy 7 месяцев назад
Love this!
@jcbarker1
@jcbarker1 Год назад
I really enjoyed this
@juliantaylor5956
@juliantaylor5956 5 месяцев назад
Bro has two shared systems I love it, it was nice to hear it plays so well with all these make noise modules that I own
@reddenstudio
@reddenstudio 2 года назад
That’s was inspiring! So good!
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Thanks!
@db_illin
@db_illin 2 года назад
Super cool!!
@gabrielsudholt1870
@gabrielsudholt1870 Год назад
Excellent
@SamMcEwin
@SamMcEwin 2 месяца назад
Very nice.
@wadehathawaymusic
@wadehathawaymusic 2 года назад
The art of not giving a s@#t, the most noble of pursuits. Just look at the results. Beautiful.
@happylittlesynth
@happylittlesynth 2 года назад
excellent!
@brianreilly6545
@brianreilly6545 2 года назад
Fatastic work, super creative with the Sub. Your freewheeling attitude breads creativity within us. Thx!
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
You're so welcome!
@madscientistlife
@madscientistlife 3 месяца назад
Your crazy. Good shit
@parsa.mostaghim
@parsa.mostaghim 2 года назад
So inspiring! just got my subharmonicon and dfam a week ago. Love their company with makenoise easel @_@
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
I really need to make a M32, DFAM, SUB video soon. But it will take a lot of exploring before I dare to post something useful.
@pfmmodule5144
@pfmmodule5144 3 месяца назад
Nice video. Experimenting now by midi pairing the subh to Octatrack, audio out from subh to Octatrack and then some patching between the subh and grandmother.
@KattKirsch
@KattKirsch 2 года назад
Love this! The Subharmonicon is the definitely the least touted sibling of the three in my next of the woods. Great to see its potential exploited a bit. :)
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Thanks for checking it out! Coming up next (soon) is exploiting the sequencer to drive other gear. So cool...
@PaulBoos
@PaulBoos Год назад
I've been wanting to do that 6 out experiment with my SH - bought the mixer, but don't have the individual filters and VCAs (yet). Didn't think about polyphony so much, but individual processing of the oscillators to get 6 distinct sounds. So thanks for doing that science and making me think about polyphony.... Very, very cool.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory Год назад
Hi Paul, it was a fun experiment to do, but it's unlikely I'll do it again because of the subharmonic relationships. It's very hard to make proper music. But it can make a LOT of noise.
@darkpolarmusic
@darkpolarmusic 2 года назад
Love it, beautiful and interesting sounds. Your videos are always interesting to watch. And you need to watch (not only listen), because your comments are always a great mix of interesting details, education and humor. Thank you and keep exploring 👌🏻🎶
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Super thanks for your comments! I always have to think twice or more before I add a 'caption', making sure I don't speak bullshit, if it's spelled correctly (I am Dutch), if it's technically right and if my personal opinion is indeed personal. You can't imagine how many times I had to add 'I think' and 'I feel' to the comment because social media sometimes feels like a minefield. Fortunately the modular community is forgiving and supportive. I love to make videos for the modular world.
@Audhentik
@Audhentik Год назад
10:16 i made some patches by using 4 of them and sent them to a sequential switch so i had the main output for chords and the single notes to the switch which i've sent to the DFAM, an effect or whatever. nice video with some great results! fits very well to your channel name :)
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory Год назад
Thanks for sharing! Do you have it on video somewhere? Such setups definitely deserve a channel!
@Audhentik
@Audhentik Год назад
@@CinematicLaboratory this is the only one i've uploaded ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XwqOvCV5b6c.html i can record something more specific if you want to
@wrenchposting9097
@wrenchposting9097 2 года назад
Good for you my dude. I've used my Subharmonicon for all of the above, and even with some Doepfer trautonium modules. I feel like it needs a couple extra patch points, like a NEXT gate
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
I've been checking out those trautonium sounds and it's a shame the Sub doesn't come close. I am going to do more research, I've seen Hainbach also doing some great magic with the Sub.
@wrenchposting9097
@wrenchposting9097 2 года назад
@@CinematicLaboratory You gotta use the Doepfer trautonium formant filter module and put the Subharmonicon through it, and keep the Moog ladder filter mostly open or bypassed completely
@jonv2911
@jonv2911 2 месяца назад
Electronic witchcraft… yes. Awesome textures!
@michaels8607
@michaels8607 10 месяцев назад
That things sings it's won wonderful tune..
@Probbie
@Probbie 2 года назад
Wonderful!! 👏👏👏
@tezkakoakpk9367
@tezkakoakpk9367 2 года назад
the subharmonicon have a lot sound for exploring, I think lot of people subestimates these gear. the combination with MF's its gorgeous
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
I definitely underestimated and underappreciated it before I got one. It took a while to realize there's more than what's on the panel.
@csselement
@csselement 2 года назад
modular synths are like sculpture 💯
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Yes, that's how I feel it. You start with a rock, clay or a blank canvas and then you need to figure out what beauty is hiding in there. It's not always beautiful, but always worth it.
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin 2 года назад
I love that Submarine clip - I love your Lableaks ..... and your spacey progressive musical ideers ,-
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Thank you Mikkel!
@snorrevonflake
@snorrevonflake Год назад
I wait another two years and explore the B.udget version.
@Lcrymlgy
@Lcrymlgy 9 месяцев назад
You talking about the filter right at the beginning just got me thinking about just *how much bass* it loses with resonance, it's quite exasperating sometimes😅
@tomjepson2295
@tomjepson2295 2 года назад
Fab, fab, fab! I only got the SubH a couple of months back and - doing it's thing - it's a fun instrument. Hearing you use it like this, though, is inspiring.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and I hope I'll find new ways to use it. It's fun 'in the box', but there is always more space 'outside the box' :).
@andrewnancarrow
@andrewnancarrow Год назад
Great video with inspiring sounds. I too am struggling with the sounds of the subharmonicon sounding too “nice” or almost cheesy like a kind of chip-tune 80s video game soundtrack. This gave me ideas to darken it. I have a Strega, 0ctrl, and Pam’s. Any other ideas for good module pairings? Was there a lot of mimeophone processing in this video? I kind of wish you got a little more detailed with the patching so I could better wrap my head around the process. Any other tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
@CallumMcphee
@CallumMcphee Год назад
To clarify, virtually everything apart from a pure sine wave contains upper harmonics. Just don't want someone watching this to be misinformed about what makes an organ sound like an organ.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory Год назад
Well, thank you for clearing up the misinformation but I was referring to the registers you can slide in. Regardless, I don' like the sound of it.
@BeatnikHimself
@BeatnikHimself 2 года назад
Love my SH. So glad they got the bugs worked out FINALLY. She is the heart and soul of my system and I’ll never tire of her. I suggest programming 1-maj4-maj6 scales in Just Intonation and running the two seq. outs into a precision adder, no quantization needed. Also works with 1-min3-min5. Just intonation let’s one create “additive” scales without the need to quantize the result. Leads to many new ideas like easily pitch bending your whole patch. Hope you enjoy years of fun with your SH. Now that the sequence clk out jacks work and the rest of the bugs seem to be at bay(for now)she is a real beauty.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely try this in my next Sub video, where I'd like to exploit the sequencer. I wasn't aware it had bugs, one of the benefits to dive into this machine two years later :).
@literacypolice
@literacypolice Год назад
Great synth demo! The English phrase you referred to as "trial on error" is actually "trial and error." I'm going to let you off with just a warning this time. Now you know, for future use! Cheers.
@returnofthenative
@returnofthenative Год назад
I wanted it for the same thing & mine arrived yesterday, but I had to return it this morning, as it produced no output signal & it ha a stuck down trigger. I'm hoping to get a replacement.
@madscientistlife
@madscientistlife 3 месяца назад
Not a bad way to spend $15,000 and untold hours of proper effing around.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 3 месяца назад
It's much cheaper compared to marrying a partner who smokes weed and loves to own a horse. And a farm.
@madscientistlife
@madscientistlife Месяц назад
I've got a similar money pit good sir. Perhaps that's why we enjoy our machines and gadgets. They don't bitch. Peace and love. God bless you and yours brother
@0VRLNDR
@0VRLNDR 2 года назад
Love it when people discover the Subharmonicon “beyond the organ” (which it does very well). If you want some further west coasty patches, I’ve got a bunch of high res patch templates for the SubH on my insta. 🙌
@ericlloyd7981
@ericlloyd7981 6 месяцев назад
BLIND SPOT you heard it here first, don't get it twisted.
@markslandingsandaviationvi3123
What effects are you using? Are you using a DAW for effects?
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory Год назад
Main effects are coming from Desmodus Versio from Noise Engineering. At the end I think I used Mimeophon. I use Replika XT from Native Instruments occasionally, but I don't think I've used it here because Desmodus and Mimeophon are powerful enough on their own.
@skelly790
@skelly790 Год назад
Yeah, it does sound a bit cheesy. Processing the crap out of it works, but what it really needs is stereo, for those voice blending vibes. Which can be done, if you can dedicate a mixer to the thing. Lots more filters would also be nice. And some VCAs.
@jbc1951
@jbc1951 2 года назад
> 'Trial on Error' Trial and Error > the tail is sweeped the tail is swept > not sure this is done before not sure this has been done before
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
I wish I could correct these mistakes, but it's a bit like a blind spot. RU-vid doesn't allow a reupload without losing stats and comments. After a while you don't see them anymore. And I am dutch so I can't see what I don't know. I'll just doublecheck more in my next videos, but I don't mind if my stuff isn't perfect. And I think I'll put 'Trial on Error' on a T-shirt because it's almost like a movie where people get punished when making a mistake.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
It's structural problem :). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dZKqC0v6nZ8.html
@hobboth
@hobboth 2 года назад
Subharmonicon is my first synth and it can do so much things! I like it with some distortion before reverbs.
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
This is the Way :)
@BrendanSpengler
@BrendanSpengler 2 года назад
Don’t like organs??
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад
Indeed. I've been thinking why. First reason is mandatory organ lessons playing music I did not like and second is the sound itself (exceot hammond with leslie speaker on a floyd album). I grew up in the 60's, 70's and 80's and I was super happy with the birth of the synth. Oh, and church organs are awesome too.
@bobphillips2341
@bobphillips2341 2 года назад
Check Louis Payne here
@madscientistlife
@madscientistlife 3 месяца назад
Do you sleep?
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory 3 месяца назад
You are a mad scientist too. We sleep when we're dead.
@DayflightTrok
@DayflightTrok Год назад
Quatsch
@CinematicLaboratory
@CinematicLaboratory Год назад
How rude.
@DayflightTrok
@DayflightTrok 4 месяца назад
sorry@@CinematicLaboratory
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