Daemon told Willem Blackwood to "do your worst" in order to "persuade" the Brackens to bend the knee, but he also said "there are things the crown must not be seen to do." He wanted the Blackwoods to commit atrocities against the Bracken people while maintaininng plausible deniability about his involvement, but they did it while waving the Targaryen banner, making the crown complicit. Now the Riverlords see Daemon as a tyrant. Apt, as Daemon sits in Harrenhal, the castlle Harren the Black enslaved the Riverlands to build.
@@CocaiineCowboy are you a snowflake? I simply corrected the person by saying "Meleys chose Rhaenys", whilst they said the dragon went to Rhaenys as if the dragon was an inheritance? How is that being insufferable?
@@majestic8054 I mean you’re the one that got so triggered you felt the need to set the perceived mistake straight. ‘But the dragon went to Rhaenys’ could mean she inherited it, but it probably means the dragon went to Rhaenys willingly. It’s pretty well known by now that it’s a two way street the dragon ALLOWS the rider to mount. & a rider usually can just not hop on
Like in this instant what do people expect Cole to do, be like Aemond blasted Aegon arrest him?!?? Like okay that basically giving up the war as Aemond is the only Dragon rider they have left and their strongest piece on the board, Aemond knows it Cole is basically handcuffed
@@herecomesthescience I ain't no saying how it's written in them wikis. I be saying how it should be written. don't try to fix me cuh, if u ain't finna stand on no business. funny how u think u did sumn there while I clearly owned u.
@@accountnew7030 Wrong spelling, dummy! It's spelled "Jon" Sometimes when you're corrected, you should stop insisting on being stupid and being wrong and just accept the correction.
What happened with the Brackens: Daemon told Willian Blackwood to get the Brackens to surrender to Daemon by pillaging (destryoing crops and sacred spaces, killing peasants, r*ping women). The Bracken, being overwhelmed and wanting a stop to it then surrendered to Daemon. The other lords of the Riverlands heard what happened to the Brackens (and the Blackwoods used the Targaryen sigil) so they came to Harrenhal to curse out Daemon. So, now, Daemon has the Blackwoods' true loyalty and the Brackens' forced loyalty. But all the other lords said they will not raise their banners for him.
What you girls don't understand is by telling the Blackwoods to attack the Bracken's weaknesses, that means that Daemon literally gave them the green light to commit war crimes by pillaging and murdering civilians, including women and children. That's what Alys Rivers was talking to him about when she was wrapping his hand, and that's what those people were upset with Daemon for. If you think about it, Daemon is not that much better than Cristian.
Daemon ordered the Blackwoods to ravage the Brackens and forces their fealty and did such things in House Targaryen name. The riverlords denounce his atrocities and brutality.
The Gold cloak who let Daemon in was Blood and he's dead now, so that was just another gold cloak who the handmaiden knew from her time in King's Landing. This was a great episode as it shows both Daemon and Rhaenyra working the back channels, she is getting things moving while he's just creating one mess after another.
The people who confronted Daemon in the Night are NOT BRACKENS!!! They are other "Riverlords" who saw the Injustices being Commited and are Angry with Daemon: thus they said they "WILL NOT RAISE THEIR BANNERS FOR A TYRANT!!"
Daemon did infact not know that was his mom she died when he was 3 years Alys gave him that vision hence why she said "its a shame you never knew your mother" Daemon was horrified but yeah the thing is what's Alys goal by giving Daemon all these visions?
Why would she settle for something less when she’s going to become queen on the 7 kingdoms plus like she said, she’s Targaryen she’s been raised as a Targaryen
@@Shiera_Seastar_ Or it would make her rule with Jace stronger as she would be head of one of the richest families in the kingdoms at this time, and give them the backing of powerful naval force. But I get it, Blood and Fire is cooler than Salt and Sea.
@@Okkotsu86275By that logic, Jace should not inherit the Iron Throne because he is technically "Salt and Sea" , and not "Fire and Blood". This was just a cheap way to make the blacks look better in the eyes of casuals lol. And I love your reference to Hill's Alive video lol, she is so good at analyzing this show.
Correct; Rhaegar, Jon Snow's father, was Daenerys' older brother indeed. There's most likely going to be some significant differences in the books from the show though, but we won't find out until _The Winds of Winter_ is finally published.
Wlliem blackwood the guy daemon sent to attack the brackens is the kid from season 1 that killed the guy ( a bracken ) bullying him when he proposed to rheanrya
What Daemon meant by Willem showing the Blackwoods his worst was that Willem should forget about trying to defeat the Brackens in a pitched battle but rather he should send out his men and loot Bracken villages, burn their fields and crops, and kill and abduct women and children until the Brackens will be terrorized into surrender. Filmmakers don't really show it for obvious reasons but during the middle ages( the period that inspired George Martin) this sort of assymetric warfare was much more common and often efficient also than two great armies lining up on the field against each other and fighting untill someone emerged as the victor.
Going into this episode I was 50/50 on whether or not the show was finally gonna let Jace(my third favorite team black member) cook in this war !!!! Finally now we can see him display his leadership, the way he does in the book at this point. Unleashed the the 🐉 SEEDS !!!!😈
As a "green", I also love Jace's desire for action and his diplomatic skills. Still, the🐉seeds idea was a very bad one. Giving the only source and symbol of power of the dynasty to random strangers and b*stards is so reckless and stupid. Although I get that he maybe thought they had no choice
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 I'll give him that at least. He seems to be aware that Targaryens are not "gods". Still, you need to protect your family's competitive advantage lol
Blackwoods raped and pillaged Bracken lands until they submitted... fine, but both houses already had their war, they're very diminished in forces. But by doing this Daemon just lost all the other dozens of big Riverlands houses.... that's what we were seeing: Mallister, Piper, Vance,...
Okay 3 of the 4 eggs were Dani its already been proven to us by the writers of this show so Daemon daughter in the vale is huge for protecting the future of the eggs alone , Also its 170 before Dani was born this show so living 60 year average its 3 generations at max ! So these people would be related pretty closely to House of Dragon folk its clear the dance was huge for the whole GOT story line and also Daemon mother died when he was only 3 he has no memory of his mother so he was making love to a women he didn't know was his mother in his dream its Alys Rivers messing with him she is clearly a green seer and perhaps a morg like 3 eye Raven and one clue I will give ya is 3 eye Raven was BRANDON RIVERS in the book so he is related to Alys some how in the lore story !
By Robert's Rebellion only the Mad King Aerys, Rhaegar, Viserys, Maester Aemon, (Aerys's grandfather's older brother,) and Rhaegar's children Rhaenys and Aegon were alive. Jon and Dany would be born during the War. There are lots of people with Targaryen blood that were never part of the Royal House. Various members of House Targaryen sired children who then fell out of the pages of history. The Smallfolk of Dragonstone called such people Dragonseeds, because they often had the Valyrian silver hair and purple eyes. Jace is suggesting reaching out to these people and putting them on the 6 Dragons on Dragonstone currently without riders. Seasmoke, Vermithor, Silverwing and the 3 wild dragons. Baelon and Alyssa Targaryen actually had 3 sons. Viserys was born in 77AC. Daemon in 81AC. Alyssa flew on Meleys with both when they were only a few days old. Alyssa had another son Aegon in 83AC. He died before the age of 1. Alyssa's health never recovered from the difficult pregnancy, she died at the age of 24.
Why are the targaryen children that fell out of the royal house poor? You would think they will have a treasure chest or something. Did Hugh's parents spend it all?
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Some Targaryens had bastards with smallfolk. Some married lesser lords who had children, 7-8 generations later their children have a thimble-full of Targaryen blood. Ulf the White claims to be a bastard brother of Viserys and Daemon. Daemon claims he and Viserys fucked their way through most of the brothels on the Street of Silk. It's not impossible that those whores might have had bastards. Hugh Hammer is descended from Maegor the Cruel perhaps, or maybe Aemon, Rhaenys' father. Aegon the Uncrowned and his brother Viserys (after whom King Viserys is named,) also might have sired bastards before their untimely deaths. Vaegon the Dragonless might've sired bastards despite being an Archmaester and having a general aversion to women. Remember that Littlefinger line: Fuck enough women and some of them will give you presents. One of the claimants at the Great Council was a man who claimed descent from a younger granddaughter of Aenar the Exile, who brought House Targaryen to Dragonstone. Aegon the Conqueror had 2 great-uncles who died unwed and supposedly without children. And another great-great uncle a generation before that.
Jon snow is son of Rhaegar & Lenna the right king of Westros was going to be Rhaegar after Mad King Aery's II when he dies, you might say Aery's wasn't mad he was being messed with by the 3 eye Raven its ironic that the 3 Eye Raven tells Bran he tried to warn the king but he fail nah I think he drove him mad because he started saying Burn them all burn them all over and over again I have a feeling the 3 eye Raven caused everything in GOT we all were just pawns in his game when you think about that Bran was morg the whole battle of Winter fell during the long Night with the fight with the dead odds are he was going back into the past and effecting crap like giving Arya the dagger to kill his enemy because the Night King only came south once 3 eye Raven made connect with Bran interesting theory is he was only coming to kill Bran and everyone that stood in his way was a pawn for Bran and he knew it . I also have a feeling like Holdor was altered by Bran effecting the past time line I think he messed with Dani you notice a change in her she started to not sleep or eat she didn't trust anyone odds are she was hearing things from the lord of Light or lets say Bran putting that crap in her head he drove her mad is my theory. You ask why if you think about it the only weakness Bran has as the 3 eye Raven is Drogon he can't morg into a dragon there to magical and way to smart he needed Jon to kill Dani it was the only way he gets the throne at the end. Either Blacks or Green side of Tars end up related to Dani and Jon without them being together neither would of been born wont spoil who but its clearly the importance of this show goes deeper its the outcome of return of the dragons in the future without them Dani wouldn't of been around to bring back dragons to stop the dead! So this dance has huge outcome for the future of LIFE in WESTROS !
Surprised no one was like yay the dragon that killed my mom last month is dead revenge!!!! If Cole had silver hair he would be less hated cause Daemon calls for some of the most heinous crimes and people are just like “Daemon you Gotta stop and just help Rhaenyras, but we still love you” Cole just appears on screen, “burn in hell Cole”,”I can’t wait for you to get yours” like ain’t no way in hell Cole is a worst person than Daemon
25:17 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE THIS WHAY ARE YOU WATCHING THIS SHOW IF YOU FORGET EVERYTHING ?????????????BY NOT KNOWING A LOOOOOOOOOOTTT IF STUFFFF YOU MISSSS MORE THEN HALF OF THE GOOD STORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:16 It's okay, Sam As long as you don't overemphasize the "goo" sound in any of the dragon's name's I'm sure we'll all be considerate and mature in the comments