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MORE EXP THAN 5WAYS - CHEAP, FUN AND SOLOABLE 

Ventrua
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Brand new XP farming method, might be a little OP, nerfs by GGG possible.
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@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Please someone tell Jungroan to not snitch
@ArticulateArena
@ArticulateArena 2 месяца назад
Theres nothing fun in poe anymore. The game is dog
@pepe3062
@pepe3062 2 месяца назад
Keep it the content up ventrua
@gasser5001
@gasser5001 2 месяца назад
@@ArticulateArenaWant to know why? Chris and all of them sold everything to Tencent now. As of march 25th, Tencent is 100% owner of GGG and PoE. New league delayed a month... PoE2 pushed back to an undisclosed date... and Chris sold out... HMMMMMMMMM...... I've played games that Tencent has slowly taken over... they've all turned to shit. PoE2 will flop like D4 did because they're trying to COPY D4 instead of MAKE PoE2. (and this is coming from someone who's played PoE for 10 years and spent WAAAAAAAAAAY WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much on it....)
@vulpine3431
@vulpine3431 2 месяца назад
@@gasser5001you are delusional and ignorant. Stop crying about nothing lol
@ArticulateArena
@ArticulateArena 2 месяца назад
​@gasser5001 you actually think this or one of my alt a counts? All true
@MrTokki
@MrTokki 2 месяца назад
Subscribed! Thanks for the content this league Ventrua. I found out about you from the early videos of Ruetoo's CoC DD. Thanks for being well spoken and concise in your videos. Will be looking forward to more content from you. One thing I hope to see in the future is the ability to have chapters on your videos. This would make it really helpful whenever I need to come back to refer to one of your videos and re-learn about a certain part!
@Vexferen
@Vexferen 2 месяца назад
i gotta admit. i really REALLY REALLY FUCKING HATE 5 ways. so i hope this stays at least at the same level (both budget/and xp per hr).
@JamesFuston
@JamesFuston 2 месяца назад
GL with the budget, the teachings scarabs jumped to 6/d lol
@EdgeOfEclipse
@EdgeOfEclipse 2 месяца назад
gl finding another exp strat when you can stay afk
@achgehzu2125
@achgehzu2125 2 месяца назад
anything that makes TFT less necessary is good, no matter how bad it is, it is still better if it does not involve TFT. So, being able to lvl for less on a second char more efficiently is awesome. I like that and hope it stays.
@mercerwing1458
@mercerwing1458 2 месяца назад
@@JamesFuston wdym it's still 30c at most.
@guitarsolos89
@guitarsolos89 2 месяца назад
​@@mercerwing1458looks like u dont know math or chaos:divine ratios
@slutmonke
@slutmonke 2 месяца назад
"14 levels in 10minutes. I'm going to give him a divine so he doesn't feel like i wasted his time" rofl
@MrSmacki
@MrSmacki 2 месяца назад
Haha True, He can waste my time any day, for 14lvls and a div for 10min. no problem :D
@Equilibrium2903
@Equilibrium2903 2 месяца назад
Shame its already like 10x as expensive as it was during this video.
@fearstreak7462
@fearstreak7462 2 месяца назад
considering 5 ways is multiple divines per and you can level gems in your offhand if you really want to recoup currency, 17, 19c a Teaching scarab is perfectly fine.
@kevinknoll4504
@kevinknoll4504 2 месяца назад
It's prolly still the best way to solo level right now and it's dirt cheap. I ran a few maps and actually made profit so currency shouldn't be the issue.
@Hax4Snax
@Hax4Snax 2 месяца назад
and just like that teachings are 10x the price lol
@bungus2bungus317
@bungus2bungus317 2 месяца назад
Just found this video, tested it out, and holy shit its gold. Thanks for the tip
@St_August
@St_August 2 месяца назад
Keep in mind, that there's also devoted mods that increase exp from specific mob packs + u can use the exp allflames
@MaleixonTwitch
@MaleixonTwitch 2 месяца назад
Ventrua your content has gotten really good this league, keep it up brother!
@JuicyG_
@JuicyG_ 2 месяца назад
I ripped my lvl 98 last night, this vid couldnt have come at a better time
@Xhibbi
@Xhibbi 2 месяца назад
another banger of a video, thanks for sharing the strat!
@thetyman995
@thetyman995 2 месяца назад
Opinions on breach vs abyss, im doing something similar with abyss and shrines because of the abyss tree nodes that give bonus xp from the monsters. Do you think breach beats out abyss?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Breaches are a lot of fun for me and they are pretty fast so you can finish them while the shrine buffs are still active, but honestly as long as you have shrines, you can combine it with any mechanic that's decent exp
@charlesm835
@charlesm835 2 месяца назад
What a mad man. These scarabs are breaking the game in so many ways 😂
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
That's just what happens when GGG introduces so much stuff at once, but it's fun, I have been enjoying myself a lot this league in trade
@TrafficLi9HT
@TrafficLi9HT 2 месяца назад
By the way you can easily fit the league mechanic into this if you get rid of niko & some of the breach nodes that dont increase monster count
@mikehorn9171
@mikehorn9171 2 месяца назад
Is there anyway to do in a group? We have tried and myself or someone else is always crashing. I didnt crash last season mind you just this season :(
@natekerk7905
@natekerk7905 2 месяца назад
Will adding allflames of untainted beast just further improve this strat?
@YoutubeStyleChannel
@YoutubeStyleChannel 2 месяца назад
I think something like this is amazing for the game. I've always wanted a good solo experience farm that wasn't super expensive or rippy. Hope it stays in the game to some extent.
@genelee5598
@genelee5598 2 месяца назад
Have you done any testing with allflame ember of untainted beasts?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Tried a little bit ya, but the packs are kinda small - maybe if you use boxes instead of breach to spawn more of the untainted beasts
@roguethemachine3928
@roguethemachine3928 2 месяца назад
@@Ventrua iv used them in boxes and reopen and it was pretty insane you put ambush reopen 2 breach and allflame of exp on every single mob
@paciumusiu1225
@paciumusiu1225 2 месяца назад
i was thinking about doing deli + beyond with those domination scarabs, went to sleep, ventrua posts a video ehhh
@DoCKeDfromBSS
@DoCKeDfromBSS 2 месяца назад
Widetime no more 5 ways Widetime
@david20229
@david20229 2 месяца назад
Should I put on Gull and self-curse temp chain? Start with picking up all the shrines then do abyss, since they can get more exp with atlas tree.
@Ceen328
@Ceen328 2 месяца назад
I think Gull + Blunderborne + Caspiro jewel should be the base for this.
@tobidas1652
@tobidas1652 2 месяца назад
why not take the left side necropolis nodes aswell so when u get 1200 increased exp u get way more exp from the league modifiers?
@Bwern
@Bwern 2 месяца назад
Do you need to activate the shrines for the exp buff?
@victorcossio
@victorcossio 2 месяца назад
yes
@NightfallGemini
@NightfallGemini 2 месяца назад
in the tree, are the branches not connecting to anything just for explicit mod power or were they being pathed to something specific?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
just for explicit mod power since that gives more quant/pack size
@NightfallGemini
@NightfallGemini 2 месяца назад
right on, ty :3 ​@@Ventrua
@arthursolans5099
@arthursolans5099 2 месяца назад
man you are so amazing ty for your content
@ahmose8730
@ahmose8730 2 месяца назад
go go ventrua keep on them guides.
@w0bbelr531
@w0bbelr531 2 месяца назад
is it good for farming breach for chalupa's red dream?
@yorkel2
@yorkel2 2 месяца назад
does shrine effect scale the increased exp?
@anderswiberg1539
@anderswiberg1539 2 месяца назад
does the shrines stack with "the gull" aswell?
@Classic112
@Classic112 2 месяца назад
Prices have changed but this was still really helful! Thanks Ventrua
@HungNguyen-yg4wg
@HungNguyen-yg4wg Месяц назад
What kind of scarab do you use in this video?
@andrewbarichello9483
@andrewbarichello9483 2 месяца назад
Ventrua blasting out fantastic content.
@oldDrunkLightning
@oldDrunkLightning 2 месяца назад
do you think this strat could be merged with deli + beyond + red altar spam? 2 shrines + influenced packsize + magic size. It's what I'm running right now and I'm considering doing something like this once I get my HH to just blast my deadeye to high levels. (HH should probably let me not need Huck and Niko anymore) Or is the exp from from breach like super substantially better here?
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
I'm doing Deli + Beyond with Eater Altars, so yes, you can. You don't really have the points to buff up the Eldritch altars if you want free beyond and deli though along with the best breach nodes.
@Sucharek22
@Sucharek22 2 месяца назад
What do you think about additional switching all monsters with allflame that give huge xp but cant drop loot?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
I tried that a bit, it seemed decent but not THAT much better honestly
@FangsOfKomodo
@FangsOfKomodo 2 месяца назад
How long does it take to max out a gem to 20?
@Detlevboi
@Detlevboi 2 месяца назад
Does this work with lesser shrines from devoted mods?
@tdcfc
@tdcfc 2 месяца назад
Now all I have to do is wait a couple of weeks for the scarab prices to go down again. Yay!
@chrismartin5436
@chrismartin5436 Месяц назад
Wonder whether 'monsters drop mini shrine on death' interacts with this...
@bimirino
@bimirino 2 месяца назад
Good job ventrua
@tobbhert2256
@tobbhert2256 2 месяца назад
Can i do this but with red altars instead? (im a RF chieftain)
@pigeon7777
@pigeon7777 2 месяца назад
Wow thank you! hopefully the prices don't get too high. I wonder if the scarab also works with the shrines from the Gull unique helm
@skop6321
@skop6321 2 месяца назад
it did and it got patched
@aarondrivesabus
@aarondrivesabus 2 месяца назад
no it didnt@@skop6321
@pigeon7777
@pigeon7777 2 месяца назад
@@skop6321 riipppp
@yopi4003
@yopi4003 2 месяца назад
@@skop6321 Even if it got patched its still the best way to lvl up, I got 30% per map on lvl 95(I did this today)
@mz4797
@mz4797 2 месяца назад
Hi, great video. Can you tell me if xp is applaying to gems also?Ty
@birdog23
@birdog23 2 месяца назад
Use the gull for increased effect or does that not work?
@VividFlash
@VividFlash 2 месяца назад
Nope
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
Hotfixed
@Romial34
@Romial34 2 месяца назад
Does the 30% exp stack if you do more than one at the same time?
@c-tothefourth4879
@c-tothefourth4879 2 месяца назад
The limit is 1
@Darkspawn6666
@Darkspawn6666 2 месяца назад
Will try how this compares to abyss, but looks nice
@Brian9824-ct8cv
@Brian9824-ct8cv 2 месяца назад
Do lesser shrines the packs can spawn on death count for the 30%?
@leprifacioncustard4921
@leprifacioncustard4921 2 месяца назад
I heard somewhere that they do not, but I have not tested it myself
@geoffreyrutherford9665
@geoffreyrutherford9665 2 месяца назад
Imagine you added all the exp all flames to that also
@krystofpribyl2892
@krystofpribyl2892 2 месяца назад
I had same idea and I have upgraded it little bit and did from lvl 98 to 99 in 6 maps meybe 7 but still that's insane, took me like 30 mins meybe
@tobbhert2256
@tobbhert2256 2 месяца назад
As a RF chieftain with loads of explosions, i cleared jungle valley T16 within like maybe 2 mins (boss dead aswell and i looted abit) but i went back and looted after boss killed too, but didnt take long haha, also started with 0% XP and went to 15% in just that map (which was low rolled cus my char is slightly weaker)
@trpike08
@trpike08 2 месяца назад
I hope you added untained beasts allflame?
@Evil_Arthas
@Evil_Arthas 2 месяца назад
So 20 to 30c per Gilded domination, so around 6 to 10 times more expensive now? Sadge I only have one question, does inc effect of shrines work on this 30% exp buff?
@seanofthedead6483
@seanofthedead6483 2 месяца назад
I would say no, since the exp comes from the scarab itself
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
Do the Shrine XP buffs stack or just a flat 30% if you have any shrine effect up?
@ILikeGuns1992
@ILikeGuns1992 2 месяца назад
Adding Breaches with Scarabs is better than adding Shrines with Scarabs, right?
@paperstars9078
@paperstars9078 2 месяца назад
what are good maps to run with this? I assume you want some kind of circular layout...
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Ashen woods or Dunes felt really good when testing
@paperstars9078
@paperstars9078 2 месяца назад
@@Ventrua I tested with Bog map, put in 2x increased exp mobs from allflames and the map got me 20% exp on lvl 94 character. I went and unspect 2 breach open/close faster nodes as I only run 1 breach scarab as well as sacrificed some map quant (I'm missing a bunch of unique maps/boss atlas points). I can run it on my DD Elementalist ~ 10 div budget, though I wished I had invested more into physical mitigation. Also I will add paying attention to when your shrine buffs run out is important as you will be a lot weaker all of the sudden. So don't be overconfident.
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
Jungle Valley, Dunes
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
I prefer jungle valley due to the Eldritch Altar Advantage and it has often more mobs than Dunes.
@TheHbk1985
@TheHbk1985 2 месяца назад
i just tried this. first map : eater divine altar. So i can confirm: its also really good currency
@sf5028
@sf5028 2 месяца назад
Aaaaand scarabs are 35c now and rising. Guess I have to sell the ones I bought instead of using them. Was fun while it lasted.
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
Been doing this with Beyond - otherwise the same - its very fun!
@alexanderjanak4239
@alexanderjanak4239 2 месяца назад
and prices are through the roof. fck i hate this volatile economy
@illustrukarma
@illustrukarma 2 месяца назад
It will level out in a few days
@AquaticSkipper
@AquaticSkipper 2 месяца назад
Full map mod effect seems risky for a levelling strat?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Shrines and Niko buffs give you a lot of extra power so I have had 0 issues personally, but you could drop effect nodes for scarabs for example if you feel like it would be too much to handle
@sanmaru5555
@sanmaru5555 2 месяца назад
what is the build in the video ? the profile shows different ones
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
The build is CoC DD inquis, I have a lot of content related to that build on my channel in the last 2 weeks
@zachkoa
@zachkoa 2 месяца назад
What build are you running? Looks fun af
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
I am playing CoC DD Inquisitor in this video, I have a bunch of content regarding that build on my channel including a guide, you should check it out!
@kokorochin01
@kokorochin01 2 месяца назад
Does Niko Sulphite count like shrines, or why are you taking them ?
@alexanderjanak4239
@alexanderjanak4239 2 месяца назад
you are taking niko because he gives you defense boost + movement speed + dmg boost with atlas passive called Packed with energy
@kokorochin01
@kokorochin01 2 месяца назад
@@alexanderjanak4239 I see. Regardless, strat dead, teaching scarab 25c.
@alexanderjanak4239
@alexanderjanak4239 2 месяца назад
@@kokorochin01 yep. stopped doing the strat few hours ago as prices went to moon, atleast i had a fun few maps and leveled above 90 with my second char. was fun
@will968
@will968 2 месяца назад
Is there a reason not to take the 30% monster density in breaches at the top of the tree?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
must have forgotten about those when making this video sorry, my current tree ingame has them
@user-qy3et9wi2d
@user-qy3et9wi2d 2 месяца назад
The venntrua
@CephasTheWanderer
@CephasTheWanderer 2 месяца назад
What an absolute legend 👏 thank you so much for this!
@BrystarG
@BrystarG 2 месяца назад
I am currently gaining 1 billion xp/hr @ level 97 in jungle valley, using Archamge icenova. I frostblink to every alter and then pop the breaches while having a huge increase to xp gain. If you're failing to get high xp/hr with this strat consider rushing the altars and using a nice open map layout
@burntoast-tx1vb
@burntoast-tx1vb 2 месяца назад
only 40c per run!!!
@DiscoverwithDan
@DiscoverwithDan 2 месяца назад
Appreciate this sort of content for noobs like me ❤
@strandwolf796
@strandwolf796 2 месяца назад
leaving a comment for algorithm ok THE ventrua WHAT
@truedps8
@truedps8 2 месяца назад
And they're at ~12c per scarab now lol.
@paperstars9078
@paperstars9078 2 месяца назад
not if you buy them one by one. I could still get 1/2 at a time for 5-6c
@Hentou01
@Hentou01 2 месяца назад
its jover
@user-fp5ks4md9y
@user-fp5ks4md9y 2 месяца назад
Multiply that by 5 on console......
@isaal7118
@isaal7118 2 месяца назад
now 30c per >
@matejbosela9093
@matejbosela9093 2 месяца назад
​@@isaal7118service, 6man group, 1 div each for 20min run. that would be kinda good, sitting at (18div - scarabs) div/h
@lesterjrobertson
@lesterjrobertson 2 месяца назад
Have you seen Sirgogs video on abyss exp? Could maybe even swap the breach nodes for abyss nodes and get even more exp. Not that its really needed. This strat is already broken.
@fandorgaming
@fandorgaming 2 месяца назад
You should try untainted monster alflames and spam shrines then kill the mobs
@EmreMotovlogveOyun
@EmreMotovlogveOyun 2 месяца назад
fantastic!.
@samdillard1824
@samdillard1824 2 месяца назад
2 bars of exp at level 99 in 5 maps. thats pretty good
@blaiseaka7157
@blaiseaka7157 2 месяца назад
1st map at 98 got 11mil xp holy edit: 2nd map 27mil xp after replacing every pack with untainted packs...
@diogoavelino6046
@diogoavelino6046 2 месяца назад
Any particular reason for Ashen Wood?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Just nice layout to collect shrines, dunes is better but didn't have any at hand.
@Rick_Sanchez_Jr.
@Rick_Sanchez_Jr. 2 месяца назад
Wouldn't domination scarab be better instead of abnormality? It gives 2 shrines
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
You can only have each shrine once and most of the time you are already getting all basic shrines, so abnormality seems to be slightly better (have tried both and there honestly isn't a huge difference)
@XLR8Tony
@XLR8Tony 2 месяца назад
Nice ty and gj
@FafurionYT
@FafurionYT 2 месяца назад
I am still dying at least once every 2 maps, so it's kind of progress with this strat finally. before I was always at 0% exp because the amount of times I get one-shot by random corpse explosions or ground effects I can't see is way too high. 10% exp loss per death in a game this random and unbalanced is too damn high, I've never gotten a character above 97 because of it.
@formatdrivec9608
@formatdrivec9608 Месяц назад
ive been doing it with abyss instead of breach cause i can combine with beyond
@christophermartinez866
@christophermartinez866 2 месяца назад
did this get nerfed?
@saiyanspirit8199
@saiyanspirit8199 2 месяца назад
I bet some one has thousands of these stashed and now that these scarabs price is x30 ventrua will swim in mirrors, well played.
@burntoast-tx1vb
@burntoast-tx1vb 2 месяца назад
that some one is ventrua
@bowlofspiders
@bowlofspiders 2 месяца назад
Ventrua is so cool
@user-bk9wt8gk1q
@user-bk9wt8gk1q 2 месяца назад
Got 20% xp from a map while at lvl 94. And i don't even have a 5-slot map device yet. It's really a nobrainer to keep one atlas set up with this strategy for the league to level alts aswell. Thanks for sharing!
@giannisgk5848
@giannisgk5848 2 месяца назад
Which is the best strategy to farm after latest patch notes? To earn xurrency?
@andrewbarichello9483
@andrewbarichello9483 2 месяца назад
Is it normal for these to cost 40c each in bulk or is that because of this video?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
They were 3c in bulk before and there was so many I didn't expect the price to actually skyrocket, my guess is that they will stabilize at a reasonable amount like ~15c which I would still consider worth it if you need to get some fast exp
@vulpine3431
@vulpine3431 2 месяца назад
@@Ventrua I mean, 200mil an hour at 99 is insane. No wonder it skyrocketed xD It's possibly it's also people playing the market which are contributing to it.
@Joytoph
@Joytoph 2 месяца назад
Thought of adding abyss for even more xp?
@balazsfenyes3880
@balazsfenyes3880 2 месяца назад
it's def cheaper than 5ways and shrines makes you tanky, I just use the xp scarab and domination and farm my own strats, still 4-5% xp/map on lvl98
@shnurr214
@shnurr214 2 месяца назад
aaaand its gone
@Garygrine
@Garygrine 2 месяца назад
Does it matter what tier mapnyou do?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
I mean higher = more exp but today when I got to maps, I did a t9 Dunes and went from lvl 68 to like 75
@ukaszkowalski9784
@ukaszkowalski9784 2 месяца назад
Still it works ?
@bobafett1299
@bobafett1299 2 месяца назад
This wont get nerfed, they were already aware of it. They hotfixed The Gull because people were doing this with lesser shrines day 1 and 2. If they didnt want us to do the normal shrine method, they would have fixed it then.
@supersamshbrosmelee
@supersamshbrosmelee 2 месяца назад
what did they do to gull?
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
Would be great, I would rather level my characters in maps than 5ways/breachstones
@aliasKalessin
@aliasKalessin 2 месяца назад
@@supersamshbrosmelee minor shrines probably dont stack the exp buff
@paulamblard3836
@paulamblard3836 2 месяца назад
probably not nerf for this league, but high chance for the next one.
@decnalabnu
@decnalabnu 2 месяца назад
does blunderbore work?
@RG32822
@RG32822 2 месяца назад
I've heard it does, along with small shrines from Gull.
@licielg3002
@licielg3002 2 месяца назад
@@RG32822 this was not intended so they alredy nerfed it
@user-gn7nr2ko6d
@user-gn7nr2ko6d 2 месяца назад
how long have you been playing poe? becoz im also coc dd and you progress so much faster than me ( its only my 2nd league)
@Ventrua
@Ventrua 2 месяца назад
~7 years and about 15000 hours, don't compare yourself to me (or others whose job is to play this game for that matter) and try to improve yourself league by league, keep up the grind
@TheBloodshotFilms
@TheBloodshotFilms 2 месяца назад
Scarab are now 20c each
@kkona4156
@kkona4156 2 месяца назад
widetime
@zaerchon8779
@zaerchon8779 Месяц назад
For all the people saying the strat is dead, not really. The scarab of teaching does cost 25-30c now. That means its 8/divine, or for the cost of a single 5 run 5 way, you could get about 40 of them. You would get way more exp doing this for 40 maps than sitting through the 5 ways. Plus the fact that you can buy them for less than 5 div at once automatically makes it more accessible to boot (based on Standard Pricing, Necropolis looks cheaper, but their economy is different and I haven't been following it). It does as advertised, easily hitting 300+ mil xp per hour esp at lower levels. To Ventrua, Good work, thanks for sharing the discovery. My friend just got a character to maps earlier today and we already have him at level 80 by doing a few quick maps in the brief time we had to play. Keep up the good work!
@adamblount1536
@adamblount1536 2 месяца назад
20c each for teachings now :(
@Dizturb3dwun
@Dizturb3dwun 2 месяца назад
I've been doing this, with abyss breach shrine. Now my strategy is going to get nerfed. No ooooooo
@idlelabor
@idlelabor 2 месяца назад
Has this been nerfed or not, can't find a straight answer hahah. Sick content this league Ventrua!
@idlelabor
@idlelabor 2 месяца назад
Can confirm this still works, was getting 1B XP at lvl 91 - LVL 95 now in like 45 minutes hahah
@PepinoOable
@PepinoOable 2 месяца назад
@@idlelabor wich scaravs do you use?
@Critterdale
@Critterdale 2 месяца назад
@@PepinoOable use the scarabs he says in video
@timothyfeldhaus297
@timothyfeldhaus297 2 месяца назад
Dont forget about The Gull, HH on a budget
@idn
@idn 2 месяца назад
Gul does not work for EXP buff, FYI.
@timothyfeldhaus297
@timothyfeldhaus297 2 месяца назад
No, but the duration helps and having gigashrines helps when blasting density
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