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More Horsepower and Improved Cooling. Supra / BMW CSF Charge-Air Cooler Manifold Test 

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@abelalf
@abelalf 2 года назад
Perfect..my build list is almost complete…now I just need the Supra …
@MarkCalica
@MarkCalica Год назад
Lol
@AnManHydro
@AnManHydro 2 года назад
This intercooler is the bees knees my guy Calling in when I have a Supra
@350Zquicksilver
@350Zquicksilver 5 месяцев назад
Remove the manifold to quickly change the filter... what in gods name is going on here. And I thought pulling off my filter directly above the alternator on my 86 300ZX was dumb, wth! At least these guys thought of this and improved the nightmare situation with this beautiful looking part!
@Namesi
@Namesi 3 года назад
To make conservatively ~20hp/~10tq in the process of bulletproofing is fantastic - this mod would be worth the reduction in stress on the engine alone.
@boblast5582
@boblast5582 3 года назад
you know price on this thing is $4300 right? I mean its worth it if you need it, if you're actually being limited by the factory part. but thats a hefty price tag for just 20hp and a little stress reduction...
@Velodictorian
@Velodictorian 3 года назад
Right. This intercooler will give you much more overhead in heat management and flow. Much more safety margin for tuning
@motoiq
@motoiq 3 года назад
@@boblast5582 A cheaper version that is cast is coming soon.
@CSFracing
@CSFracing 3 года назад
@@boblast5582 It actually opens up a lot more features such as included port injection and ability to control cylinder spray if running nitrous / meth. You're getting a lot of features included with this manifold that make it a great value when comparing all of the different features bundled together.
@boblast5582
@boblast5582 3 года назад
@@CSFracing yeah, absolutely. Thats why I said if you actually need something like this or if the oem intake mani is limiting you, this is a great part. but if you wanna get this just for the 20hp gain a little less stress on the engine, not really worth the price for that...
@charlesschwab7651
@charlesschwab7651 3 года назад
I’d like to see this with a pure 800 or 850. That’s my ideal set up and I think this would be awesome.
@Studio_RSR
@Studio_RSR 3 года назад
We added the Pure 850 onto the car a few weeks after this video. Trying to talk Mike and Nik to do another test with the Pure on it.
@A92_
@A92_ 6 месяцев назад
B58 is such a great engine.
@blech71
@blech71 3 года назад
It’s a real problem with the power fade due to heat soak and man if you have the cash it’s definitely worth it to gain that consistency in performance curve with more extraneous environmental contributors.
@slfrules1
@slfrules1 2 года назад
WOW that thing is cool! The tune isn't optimized so it has power to make still! With support for MPFI and nitrous, the manifold making power is just extra. I didn't catch the IAT difference but those gains can't all be from increased density. Impressive they improved flow and density maintaining that packaging!
@Norcal_a90
@Norcal_a90 2 года назад
On my purchase list. Can’t wait to slap one on at the same time as a pure turbo 🚀
@charlesanderson7214
@charlesanderson7214 3 года назад
I would like to see one designed for the 1st gen B58 as in the F series BMWs
@VashEXE
@VashEXE 3 года назад
Man I had no idea the new Supra's cooling system was so interesting. I just assumed it had some air to air front mount. This aluminum piece is beautiful!
@floridaman2528
@floridaman2528 2 года назад
Looks like a great product for this engine when looking for more performance, not sure it makes sense for me yet but I will have this on my watchlist going forward.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 3 года назад
Curious about the specific back pressure of this manifold vs stock on a graduated flow chart.
@bulldogb5
@bulldogb5 3 года назад
Super interesting. Good one Mike!
@TheMultiDouche
@TheMultiDouche 3 года назад
Custom plenum creations in Aus doing the fucking business on the manufacture of these bad boys.
@TheGinger1
@TheGinger1 3 года назад
Great content. Keep up the good work!
@kevink2315
@kevink2315 Год назад
Great review, but overly conservative showing the hp/tq curves when thermally stabilized after 20-30 pulls every 30 seconds. I think that relates to track events with a lot of tight corners, not street driving. I remember shopping for intercoolers, and at Corky Bell's site, the data on those bar & plate A/L intercooler cores at high HP ratings had less than 1 psi pressure drop ! Early A/L kits were flawed by using high pressure oil coolers up front, later VW Scirroco radiators were a popular up grade.
@motoiq
@motoiq Год назад
We wanted to be conservative.
@kevink2315
@kevink2315 Год назад
@@motoiq Understood, but who wants to know the power gain after 18-20 back to back dyno runs? Great point about the the low dp with the new bar & plate core, reducing compresser outlet temp and likely pressure ratio on stock turbo, landing on a more effcient map island.
@wezkerlim
@wezkerlim 3 года назад
super cool & useful to the enthusiasts! wonder how's the effect on fuel efficiency?
@motoiq
@motoiq 3 года назад
All things being the same, probably better.
@755hp
@755hp Год назад
Did they do an ABA swap though? So go back to the stock Intake Manifold and see if they got the same results as baseline (first tests)? 🤔
@motoiq
@motoiq Год назад
It’s pointless to do that.
@TheJishwa
@TheJishwa 3 года назад
Imagine porting the intake manifold
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 3 года назад
Does it have a bolt on lid to change the core? It looks like the lid is tigged on. That's a problem for me. If I get a core leak and I have to buy a new intake, I'm seriously pissed. Besides that I can't stand the new BMW 500ml cylinder with the same bore and stroke for everything they make. It's just a cookie cutter engine for no horsepower and big horsepower depending on the bolt ons from the factory. It's a straight emissions design with cam timing and direct injection used to make the different power levels. Frackin i8 has a half a Supra motor.
@scottb4104
@scottb4104 Год назад
Bore and stroke are different for s55, b58, and s58. There's actually lots of bottom and top end hardware differences between the newer platforms, so not as cookie cutter as it seems
@curvs4me
@curvs4me Год назад
@@scottb4104 The 55 is an older platform. The 58 is modular like all new platforms for most OEs. All small bore stuff is the main factor. Big bore, short stroke is the key to ultra high performance. Small bore is the key to ultra efficiency.
@boblast5582
@boblast5582 3 года назад
pretty sure that oil filter thing is an everybody thing. Kinda the opposite of what Ravi said, I can only imagine race teams buying these if removing the manifold was required for an oil filter change.
@desi_supra2871
@desi_supra2871 3 года назад
EOS manifold has to be taken off for access to oil filter. It’s not an “everybody” thing.
@boblast5582
@boblast5582 3 года назад
@@desi_supra2871 any people buy that? For normal street driven Supras? So oil changes take hours? Why would anyone put up with that?
@yogimaster2654
@yogimaster2654 3 года назад
So changing the oil is going to be a nightmare.... fuck that
@desi_supra2871
@desi_supra2871 3 года назад
@@boblast5582 No idea but it’s a terrible design from EOS. I was waiting for either CSF or AMS manifold but I like the CSF one more so I bought that one. Hopefully AMS design allows for oil filter change without removing manifold which I’m sure it will.
@M3E92V8
@M3E92V8 3 года назад
@@desi_supra2871 next time put your oem manifold back on bro, wtf every oil change you have to deal that shit... oem is OK
@kevin-jm3qb
@kevin-jm3qb 9 месяцев назад
everyone just get a EOS intake manifold. mikey botti and majority of all the top drag guys run EOS manifolds.
@motoiq
@motoiq 9 месяцев назад
If you like removing the manifold to take the oil filter off, This manifold also has a PWR core.
@MikeL-FL
@MikeL-FL 2 года назад
Whats the latest on the cast ones? I'm sure as shit not dropping $4k on one. Thats a turbo, not an intercooler/manifold price.
@carmello000jp
@carmello000jp 2 года назад
Over priced for sure.
@carmello000jp
@carmello000jp 2 года назад
Look into Ppe icebox
@messiah7935
@messiah7935 2 года назад
Aluminum Intake Inlet Manifold CNC? so EZ
@seamusmcfitz913
@seamusmcfitz913 2 года назад
200hp never looked so fast! Should have swapped the M2 CS engine into it. IMHO. That's the real 2J successor.
@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883
@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883 2 года назад
Wow all those need is a lil powder coating sell them pups like hotcakes.👏👏🥰🥰🥰♥️🏁♥️🏁🦾🦾🔥🔥🔥
@motoiq
@motoiq 2 года назад
They are available in custom colors.
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