More Questions Than Answers On Covid-19 Origin | The Mehdi Hasan Show 

dr angela rasmussen is in cahoots with Peter Daszac and still believes in the wet market theory..one more political scientist marking her own homework.

This is the first time I’ve heard anyone address the difference between an accidental lab leak and an intentional bio weapon. Honestly thank you, Mehdi.

Scientists like Dr. Chan that spoke up early deserve a lot of credit. They are incredibly brave. She must have worked very hard her entire life to get to where she is and she put it all on the line to speak up and risk becoming labelled as a conspiracy theorist. I think that is one reason why it has taken so long for the lab leak theory to gain traction in the mainstream. Scientists that put forth and support that possiblity are taking a giant risk. By comparison, nobody is going to ruin their career by jumping the gun and making wrong claims of a natural origin. Alina is also right that this should not be about finding someone to blame. This should be about performing research in a manner that does not endanger lives.

Dr. Chan has the kind of elegance I truly admire. Don't get me wrong, at times there's a need for brashness to punch through the veil of doubt, deceit, and obfuscations, but at other it requires a sensitivity that calms ones higher faculties in face of the insanities that are running amuck.

Science is not settled and shouldn't be treated like it is. The two qualified scientists on this interview don't even agree. Dr. Rasmussen is quite sold on the zoonotic theory but Dr. Chan believes there's evidence of both. The problem is people with vested interests in covering this up have been treating the issue as settled when it hasn't been.

Dr. Rasmussen claim that the emergence of convergent evolution variants in late 2020 and 2021 is evidence for a natural origin is flawed. In a zoonotic event, according to evolution, you expect that after the species jump you have an initial period of fast adaptation in which several mutations are selected to maximize the spread in the new species. But, as the virus becomes more adapted, the mutations continue happening but are selected at a lower rate because the virus is already well suited for the new host and the chances that a new mutation increases the transmissibility are smaller. SARS is an example of this. With around 8000 people infected, it accumulated many noticeable adaptations during the outbreak. If the virus came from a passage experiment in the lab (or any sort of similar research work) the initial adaptation would occur in the lab, but it doesn't mean that it will already be the perfect unmutable virus adapted to humans. With SARS COV 2, the initial phase of adaptation to humans is missing. The initial samples from Dec 2019 were already well adapted so two hypothesis may exlpain this: the intial cases after the natural zoonotic jump have not been detected or the zoonotic jump happened in the lab as a result of an experiment like serial passage, or testing in humanized mice. The variants in late 2020 and 2021 have emerged because the virus has already infected hundreds of millions of people. No lab experiment can work with a sample size comparable to hundreds of millions of people to maximize the transmissability in humans. It's nonsense to claim that a lab leaked virus would magically stop evolving when infecting hundreds of millions of people. So her argument simply adds nothing to the discussion and its only purpose is to deceive people without a scientific background. Her ties to Peter Daszk and cooperation with the WIV however pose a potential conflict of interest that may explain why she is using such a deceiving argument.

Alina Chan showed more fortitude than anyone else. We should all be thanking her.

You are the best interviewer on earth right now, I love how you stay objective and press questions on both sides equally.

Dr. Chan seems more authoritative.

angela rasmussen is a political scientist who made he mind up early 2020

Nobody is saying to shut down all of virology, just dangerous gain of function work.

Mehdi is greatest when he can burrow into an issue. His variety show is fine, I just wish we could see his greatest work as well.

I don't think it's helpful to rule out anything, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Much like how plants are selected or farm animals for specific genetic traits is it not possible that the government of China look for, found and then cultivated a specific strain of Corona? (This would help hide the crime while also allowing for a limited amount of damage) Also, after years of dealing with these types of outbreaks in Asia, China's predictive modeling would show that they would be much better prepared under a dictatorship to deal with an outbreak of this specific Corona then Western democracies furthering the decline of American hegemony and speeding up Chinese communist parties domination of the East? Fauci suggest that the Chinese government wouldn't release this disease into its own population BUT this is also the same government that has over a million of its own people in a concentration camp (Americans profit in China despite this fact). So while there is no evidence to support this theory, there's also no evidence to dismiss it. In any crime it's most important to ask "who benefits from this?" I don't think it's helpful to dismiss any theory as it does a disservice to The pursuit of Truth even if some of it is true or none of it is true. I'm tired of all the self-serving government and media dictating the terms of what's acceptable inquiry or not.

A question that I worry about with the current obsession about origin is: would knowing what the origin is definitively change our response? Would people have worn masks and be more willing to get the vaccine if the origin was a lab leak? If not, then the only thing that could change is lab protocol, not totally insignificant, but once a virus is racing among the population it is not helpful in reducing the amount of illness and loss of life.

Crooked Sasketchwan scientist underplaying lab involvement in the same manner as a market animal, meaning the same thing that she speculates happened in the wild could have happened in the lab, for goodness sake do not rule it out for the sake of humanity

Between believing and demonstrating there is an ocean

Mehdi is the kind of television reporter that is keenly aware of how to peel back layers, whether through his own analyses or via questioning of the guests. I really enjoy his work. Plus, i thought the two speakers above did a great job of illuminating the general arguments at play without getting to involved in the politics surrounding it all. Just the facts.

Dr. Rasmussen seems to have lost the thread

Rasmussen is fear-mongering about "shutting down all of virology" at 12"26.

How did this age? The more I hear wet market the more racist it sounds.

The answer lies in Ft. Dietrich...this is why the U.S. government has closed it. You need to look here before anywhere else in the world.

My favourite anchor😊

Typical of the warmongers Amerikkkan regime always blame every Country around the world except themselves.

I wouldn't mind spending a few hours in the lab with Dr. Alina Chan.

It was a bio lab but medhi s Qataris handlers keep telling him to say it’s racist

These people are just taking lime light of gates..

Stop treating the weeds like idiots.

Alinia was shouted down...let her speak

To be able to pinpoint the origin of covid what is needed is to search all the caves where bats live, test all the animals, which is not what the US intel is focusing. SARS and MARS took of months to pinpoint a bat and a camel as the origin, covid-19 might take years. Most labs are not open to investigation. Choose your options, when no one is cooperating.

David lcke knows the truth

Bill Gate?!

Can't stand this Mehdi Hasan. He is completely biased. He has had to eat his words many times.

Let scientists decide about virus origin!

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Wet market!!! Angela u r a QUACK

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i dont care about its origin only the cure

Interview Li-Meng Yan, Chinese virologist who compared and studied sras family and mutations... covid is artificial. Bring in the right experts plz. That research paper is public

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Covid 19 from pork meat.

I kinda like Mehdi when he's not spewing anti-Semitic lies.

One of the rare Mehdi Hasan episodes where he hasn't brought his religion as a bogey to play victim!

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