My minor Louie theory is that when he was passed out on top of the Titan Dweevil, it was because his spacesuit put him in the "forced sleep mode" first officially referenced in Pikmin 3. Hell, if you want to interpret the "King of Bugs" title a little differently, maybe Louie made for such a cool hat that the Titan Dweevil was keeping him in a Plasm Wraith sort of situation... On the other hand, maybe after surviving alone on the planet long enough, Louie just decided he didn't want to go home after all? It's an all-he-can-eat buffet out there...
I'm almost positive the forced sleep mode has something to do with it, too, especially since it's canon that he has a suit with that capability! Also, that's an interesting way to interpret the "King of Bugs" title... sounds like an intriguing, introspective fanfiction premise. 👀 And, ooh, that's so ominously phrased... I like it!
Fun fact: in the epilogue story for Pikmin 3 he actually apologized to Olimar and throughout the epilogue develops into a closer friendship with Olimar
...Alright, you've convinced me to forgive him for stealing all the juice 😮💨 Jokes aside, your video is awesome and it makes me excited to experience the chaos Louie brings to Pikmin 2 myself! 😄 Can't wait to see what other characters you dive into next!!!
Haha, yessss! 💙 May the Louie forgiveness spread! And, aww, thank you so much -- I'm so happy you enjoyed my video!! :D I hope you have lots of fun with Louie in Pikmin 2. I plan to start working on my next Compelling Characters episode soon, for a very different guy from a very different game. Fingers crossed!!
Loved your video, I'm glad I found it! I'd like to look at your take that Olimar seems to be a good judge on Louie's character, I think you forgot that Louie is great at lying and deceiving others, for example the President. Louie seems to be quite aloof and not very motivated which is underlined by his more swingful and lazy background music. Another thing to point out is how his grandma seems to be very obsessive over Louie, sending him many messages and talking about how he should visit her and his father etc. Growing up with over-protective or obsessive parents (in Louie's case: his grandma) often leads to people being very self-centered and narcissistic. The fact that his grandma forced him to eat stuff that he's not supposed to eat or would rather not eat, could result in Louie being very unmotivated to do things on his own accord. His grandma seems to be very controlling on what Louie has to eat, to do and so on. This aloofness, unmotivation and self-centeredness combined is what I think defines Louie the most. So my take is that Louie, after he got left behind on the planet by Olimar, gained some new sense of freedom. Being free of what people telling him to do (like the President and his grandma) Louie took his chance and started working out and trying out new stuff. Being rediscovered by Olimar and the president probably triggered an unconscious desire to keep his new attained freedom, which is why he attacked them both. He didn't want to go home, which is quite reasonable. But yeah, that are just my thoughts on Louie and the Titan Dweevil stuff. Edit: Also him being a jerk in Pikmin 3 seems to be the result of being forced back in his situation + his self-centered and narcissistic character of course. But that's just a suggestion.
What thoughtful analysis -- thank you so much for sharing!! :D This is a fascinating take on Louie's character and I can totally see where you're coming from. I'm glad my video inspired you to take a deeper look into the King of Bugs for yourself! In friendly defense for my believing Olimar is a decent judge of Louie's character: perhaps it's just me, but I feel there's enough of a difference in those scenarios to think that Louie's not lying to Olimar. :) Wanting to avoid being fired for screwing up on his delivery is one thing; it's a "moment" that Louie only has to recall details for when mentioned. However, maintaining an indefinite lie that requires him to present himself as a better person to Olimar for weeks at a time sounds onerous and exhausting. I just don't think Louie would have the long-term energy or wherewithal to do that. To me, that seems like it'd be too much effort -- more trouble than it's worth -- for a guy with low motivation like Louie. But, again, that could just be me! I want to give extra props to the idea that Louie might have gained a new sense of freedom on PNF-404 that inspired him to want to stay. :D I'm growing more intrigued by the idea that he's managed to fall in love with this dangerous planet as a means of escape, or as a place where he can simply be himself. That's immaculate!
@@ScaleTree Thank you very much and you're welcome! And sure, I think your take is totally reasonable aswell. I am just glad you can appreciate the thoughts so much, made my day! c:
@@Fluuschi Awww, I'm so happy to hear that!! Always glad to discuss Pikmin matters with someone who clearly appreciates the games and characters as much as I do. :D Thank you so much!!
My personal theory as to why Louie got left behind in Pikmin 2's Debt Repayment Cinema doesn't have anything to do with Louie, but rather the Ship. In 2's opening cutscene (not to be confused with its Opening Cinema) the Ship's lower cockpit's window gets flung open by the force of the impact caused by bashing against a tree, before then getting closed again by the Ship. I personally believe that this impact could've caused the lower cockpit's window's locking mechanism to become damaged enough to become undone from far smaller than intended forces, as the Ship's research Pod connecting back to the Ship in the "cave exited" cutscene causes it to briefly jolt out of position slightly. What I'm building up to is my belief that Louie might've actually boarded the Hocotate Ship, but the force of taking off at such a speed (one far faster that the speed seen in 1 and 2 when the Dolphin and Ship go into low orbit at the end of a day) caused the Ship's lower cockpit's lock to come loose and send Louie back onto the Pikmin planet, stranding him. The Ship's lower cockpit's window is also shown to have completely fallen off the Ship's remains in Pikmin 3. To clear up some possible questions: 1. I know that the Ship's cockpit's windows are supposed to come undone as that's exactly how Olimar and Louie/the President exit the Ship in the cutscene that plays at the start of every in-game day. 2. The Ship is never shown speaking while flying, outside of its Research Pod communicating to Olimar and Louie (while hovering in place right next to them) in a few cutscenes taking place underground, leaving it unlikely that it could communicate to Olimar that Louie was missing from his cockpit. Also, this has little to do with this theory, but to my knowledge, the Ship is never shown to be able to directly monitor what goes on inside of it (examples include the Purple and White Pikmin being stored in the ship tutorial cutscenes), leaving the possibility that the Ship never actually knew what happened to the Golden Pikpik carrots. This also ties back into question 2, as another possibility to that question is that the Ship at least partially switches off when flying through the sky and space. PS: In case anyone wants to bring up the Sales Pitches, I'd like to remind that for the vast majority of the Treasure Hoard entries we have no idea where they were written.
I've got to say these videos are really good! I can feel the joy and soul you put into them, and only hope it will bring you more new subscribers in due time! You've already got one, at the very least
That's so sweet. 🥺 I've loved working on all of my videos so far and it makes me ecstatic to hear that those aspects shine through. Thank you so much for sharing that, and for subscribing! :)
I like to believe Louie is probably a crossbreed between a Hocotatian father and a Koppaite mother. Koppaites are known for their ravenous appetites, and Hocotatians are omnivorous.
Louie's musical themes being swung compared to olimars on the beat suggests the hesitancy that he is known for. While olimar is the veteran explorer, grounded and calculating.
Ooh, I didn't even consider that. A great point!! That reminds me of the caution he demonstrated when encountering Pikmin for the first time; it makes sense that this defining aspect makes it into his themes. It's so fun switching between captains and hearing the difference. :)
Personally, I think that Louie's Giant Breadbug entry is actually quite a stellar review masked behind what must have been some pretty serious disappointment. Imagine being a gourmet and discovering a creature brimming with massive meat and fat rerserves, a pairing that will net any good cook a delicious cut of meat. Think of the juicy steaks, kabobs, and roasts you could prepare. Now imagine going through the whole song and dance to make a roast from it, only to discover that its meat and fat is just nothing on the tongue. Now think of what such industial amounts of blank canvas meat and tasteless frying fat can do at an all you can eat buffet, where most of the meat prepared is low quality and marinated/breaded.
Coming from the fresh perspective of someone who only played pikmin 4, it was so easy to write him off as just some jerk. I feel a little silly now ngl.
Aww, no worries at all! That's a pretty common reaction for people who play Pikmin 3 as their first Pikmin game as well, thanks to the fruit theft. There's definitely lots more to him, though! :)
My impression is he's a hunger-gremlin sociopath /hj But he's so silly?? /neutral (i dont know how to feel about this mans) The piklopedia entries are funnily deranged yet fit him.
I don't think Louie was left behind. He was standing next to olimar at the end. My guess is that he intentionally stayed behind. I doubt he likes his job, and he already nearly lost it thanks to his appetite. Even if the president was dumb enough to fall for the space bunny line that time, it's not going to work again, atleast not with him paired up with Olimar. I also get the feeling he's not ecstatic about visiting or going back to live with his grandmother. It looks like she calls and/or emails him seeming every day. I always got the feeling Louie wanted to get away from his life, and this was his chance.
Ooh -- thank you for sharing! :) I wonder if there's evidence that may further support this theory in Pikmin 4 (no spoilers, please!). The implications of this would be so fascinating if so!
One of his final lines in P4 is "GO HOME!!" After chasing him through the entire final level. 404 is his home now, there's more food here than he could ever eat. He's become a better Dandori master than Olimar by this point, even taking over several gigantic creatures through some mysterious insect communion. Most people think he's evil or villainous, but I think he's purely selfish and manipulative. He was cooperating with Olimar in 2 because it was convenient.
No I think he loves his grandma, in pikmkn 4 he says how he wishes his nana could see this place and says he wants to bring back some of the "food" for her
Another thing that supports the idea that Louie and the ship are friends is that it didn’t tell on Louie when he ate the pik pik carrots. Maybe he didn’t want to get his friend fired?
Great point!! As far as I can tell, that's definitely the Hocotate Freight ship that Louie piloted when he was given those golden pikpik carrots, so the ship should have known about the incident. Love this!
I love the idea that they are friends! I personally like to headcannon (no canon basis here, it’s just for fun) that while the Ship has that dirt on Louie, Louie somehow has information about equally terrible things that the ship has done, and as a result they are locked in a Cold War where neither can tell. This ties into how the ship is much more careful with Louie than he is with Olimar, and while in canon this is most likely due to how the Ship and its captain just don’t get along, I like to think that the ship is just trying to keep Louie happy so he doesn’t open Pandoras Box for the funny I agree we need an analysis on the Hocotate Ship! Love that rusty old fella
Louie and Olimar are both great!! Definitely my favorite captains to play. It's certainly amazing that Louie made it to the bottom of the Dream Den alone. Another point towards the swole theory, I suppose. :D Thank you so much!!
the fact the Louie likes to attempt to cook basically anything he finds is hilarious to me. Definitely what makes me love him. I get it, if I where on an alien planet i'd wonder what the aliens taste like too.
25:42 I have another interpretation for Louie's Pikmin 3 vocabulary, so koppaites, like the P3 trio, breath oxygen, while it is leathally poisonous to Hocotatians, like Olimar and Louie. So Louie could possibly be breathing POISON for his entire time with the P3 trio.
As for why Louie isn't DEAD by the time they reach the Oak, one of the P3 Trio(Most likely Alph) could have realized that fact a little bit after Louie was retrieved for the second time, lowering the ship's oxygen levels enough to keep Louie alive.
I really enjoyed this deep dive into Louies character, i already loved Louie as a caharcter but you really got me thinking more into his relationships, especially with the email. Im excited to see your thoughts on Pikmin 4. It would be great to see. In regards to 3 deluxe, it is sad that Olimar is not as friendly with Louie, but they do have some great bits of dialogue hidden in there. On one mission you are tasked with reuniting Olimar and Louie after they have a falling out, as you play it Olimar comments on how Louies hunger keeps causing issues, but deep down he knows Louie is a good guy and felt maybe he overstepped the line in their arguments. Our captain still cares, my head canon is Olimar at heart is a family man, and being sent constantly to Pnf 404 by his boss is getting to him and Louies antics may just be the straw that broke him for a moment. Great video, you have earnt my sub! ^_^
Thank you so much -- both for the lovely comment, and for subscribing!! I'm glad that this video got you thinking more about Louie and his relationships; he's such a compelling character, both alone and in respect to others, so I had to make my first episode in this series about him. :) I'm definitely hoping to make a follow-up with Pikmin 3 Deluxe and Pikmin 4 info once I've 100%ed those games, though that may take a while! Also, you've given me a lot of hope for Pikmin 3 Deluxe... I was so worried that the side stories totally rewrote Captain Olimar's opinion on Louie, but honestly, I can see why Olimar would be extra stressed and irritable when you put it in that perspective. He's been away from his family for far too long! This man needs a real vacation with the people he loves (and preferably on Hocotate, so there's no risk of crashing into PNF-404). It's sweet that Olimar still recognizes Louie as a good guy, even if Louie can understandably be a handful with his hunger!
I’m not sure if this is true, but apparently the dad and aunt mentioned are just mistranslations of grandma, implying she is nudging him to visit her and she sent the cookies, so that’s why their only mentioned once each
Interesting! I ought to look up the source. :) If that's so, then it's wild that an error like that got past Q/C... though I still quite like the idea of Louie having more family than just his grandma.
@@ScaleTree translation errors with Nintendo had more often then you’d think! Especially with some of their earlier games. Stuff is censored or straight up rewritten pretty often, with the example I think of first being splatoon. The whole racism undertones was actually added in by the translation team. The Japanese version is more about war, climate change and it’s effects!! The third game even has themes of worker exploitation but that stayed pretty consistent
There was a TikTok I saw explaining how Louie could be autistic with him enjoying being on his own, likening soft fuzzy items and creatures, cooking being a special interest and more.
He’s apathetic, takes things to literally, acts impulsively (with food especially), doesn’t talk a lot (except when it’s something he’s interested in), struggles with communication, absolutely obsessed with cooking, bugs, and cooking bugs…yeah he’s autistic 100%
Honestly as an autistic person, I really do see him having autistic traits. His descriptions on some of the treasures are really telling, and he’s also referred to as mute. This makes me believe he might be either non-verbal autistic, or has selective mutism. Food and culinary also seems to be his special interest. As much as I hate to admit it, I really see myself in him.
Thank you -- and same! I understand why some people think Louie's a jerk, but I thought it would be good to share what fleshes him out and makes him much more interesting. :)
Thank you!! :) It may take a while to put out a sequel because I want to 100% those games, but I definitely want to do one in due time! ("Peakmin 4" is a pun I've been hearing a lot -- so far, on my first playthrough, I can see why!)
I honesty think that Louie doesn't get toned down in Pikmin 3DX, in the main campaign he is a bit simple, but in the side modes he has some really interesting character moments, Him and Olimars dynamic has a good amount of depth to it, not just that he is his "space dad". I wont go into any details because going in blind is much better, but to say that he is one note would be doing him no justice in how he acts and behaves in P3DX, at least from my POV (Also the video was very well made, I can't wait for more videos like this!)
Haha, the "space dad" comment was a thing I mostly added because I see that in the fandom a fair bit. :) I'm glad to hear that you feel Louie doesn't get toned down in the Pikmin 3DX side stories -- that gives me a lot of hope for when I eventually play them. Thank you so much!
I'm glad there's more people who love louie and/or don't think he's evil. He's just - Louie. He's just kind of a weirdo with some issues but like olimar stated in Pikmin 4 deep down between all those clumsy parts he's still a good guy
did anyone else note that theres no living creatures around the Formidible Oak? thats certainly something that a person aware and focused on the wild-life would notice. and Louie being said to be in tune with bugs, it might make him even able to notice something wrong with false-bugs made by the plasmwraith. I felt they tried to imply Olimar got a tad carried away by the treasure hunt, when Louie isn't the type risk too much on that.
I love Louie, and I feel people really make him out to be more evil than he is. While he does eat the golden Pikpik carrots he's still the secondary protagonist and actually is integral to completing the mission. And Pikmin 3 Deluxe helps characterize him as being dependable despite his eccentric personality. His quiet nature and hyper fixation on food leads me to believe he might be on the autism spectrum, or at least be interpreted that way. Though Pikmin continues to use him for more of a comedic purpose, so I doubt we'll get a much deeper characterization for Louie, like with Olimar and his journals in the first Pikmin. Unless it has something to do with food.
How Louie managed to get left behind in 2 is actually pretty clear, especially with text in Pikmin 4. He seems to enjoy life on PNF-404 a lot more than life on Hocotate. The only way I can come up with for how Louie could be left behind is that he intentionally slipped away before the last rocket launch.
I can understand that happening in Pikmin 3, but in the credits for Pikmin 2 Louie looks at the camera in shock that he got left behind. But yeah he did end up finding it a nice place.
Louie is a character where he’s more fascinating when you find out only the bare minimum about him. Despite that I would still love a game where you play Louie after he’s been left on the planet. A mode like regular pikmin but with a bit of pg survival horror and a bit of cooking mama. I’m still curious how he cooked, cannonbeetles, waterwraiths, and smoky proggs.
A game where one plays as Louie after being left on PNF-404 sounds sick!! If a mod or fangame ever comes out like that, I'd be sorely tempted to play it!
Olimar's themes are different because he is familiar with the enviroment and he also knows more about biology, while Louie doesnt know anything about the planet nor its animals
God i love Louie. I agree with ya that he's buff but i also headcannon do to his lazyness, and on his off days if he has to go grocery shopping he screams to me lose tshirt, sweatpants and socks with sandal guy.
Really good analysis!! Louie has always been one of my favorite characters, he's so fascinating and it's great he's getting more appreciation recently. Do you plan on making a follow-up video regarding pikmin 4? I feel like his characterization there with the treasure logs, the plotline, and so on adds a lot to him!
Thank you!! :) I wanted to give Louie the love he deserves, as he's always been a favorite character of mine, too. I think it's a great idea to make a follow-up video for him with Pikmin 4's info -- I haven't seen him in-game yet, but I'm so excited to get to that point during my first playthrough!!
A couple words to describe Louie, He has no rules, no boundaries. He doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of ideals, He trades blood for money. He's your new best friend.
Oh my,,, the topic of 10:00 to 12:17 I wanna have a take on it // CW: ED talk , , , , , , , , , , , From what happens with Louie and his history, as well as what he enjoys with food and non-food, it’s very possible that he might have a less commonly known ED called Pica. If you didn’t know, Pica is a disorder which causes people to eat things which are inedible/not food (some real life examples of this are people eating dry wall, deodorant and even bricks). In the logs for the treasures *and yes Louie has treasure logs* he is seen trying to eat a lot of the treasures, and furthermore enjoying the feeling or taste of some. Although Pica is a horrifying ED and is obviously very horrible to whoever has it, in a lot of cases it doesn’t mean it would interfere with his interest with normal food, and as a main focus, cooking. *I was in the shower and I was rambling about this to myself so sorry if I’m waffling a bit but I think it’s very interesting*
Good video. As a new fan of the Pikmin series, I've been starving to see and hear more about the Pikmin world/characters/lore and so on. Keep doing what you're doing. Great stuff.
One thing that isnt brought up in this video that is very interesting about Louie's character is the interpretation that he is autistic. Firstly, he is commonly very quiet unless he is by himself or writing in his journal. When he is talking to others he is very commonly not able to communicate much. This can be interpreted as being nonverbal. His dreams of cooking and the fact that he talks about it so much can be seen as a hyperfixation or special interest. In the side stories of pikmin 3 deluxe, he will commonly ans intentionally use "we" when referring to himself alone, which is also a common trait of autistic people. The rest of this comment will contain spoilers for Pikmin 4, which has the most evidence, so bewate. Louie's treasure log displays him literally playing with a stim toy (a fidget spinner), even saying it is "SO FUN!". The amount of autism displayed in the treasure notes is hard to quantity honestly. He loves to play with buttons, opening and closing things, lining objects up, and for whatever reason riding anything thst looks like a dog. to talk about general Pikmin 4 content, we now know that Louie definitely wants to be left on the planet, which is part of the reason he tries to stay away from the rescue team. The final boss basically confirms louie is controlling the titan dweevil at this point, there's very little that can be argued here. The reason he captures castaways seems to be because he is copying Olimars behavior like he does at work (more autism evidence but I digress). It's also heavily implied that he's much better at dandori than olimar is which is really funny lmao. There's also 2 entries that suggest he wants to prank the President in ways that would suggest he doesn't think very fondly of him.
Only 600 views? For something this long and this in-deph, you deserve *way* more views and subscribers. Seriously, this was a joy to watch, and it actually changed my perspective on Louie's character!
Thank you so much -- I'm so flattered you think that!! :) Yesterday morning it had only ~50 views, and as of the time I'm writing this, it's over 1k... I'm both a little excited and a little nervous! I'm thrilled you enjoyed my video, and even more thrilled that it helped change your perspective on Louie's character. He has such a special place in my heart!
I'm immensely flattered to hear that -- thank you so, so much!! :D I definitely plan on making more Pikmin videos; it's one of my favorite video game series ever, and I want to spread the love for it on my channel. Maybe I'll do an analysis on something in Pikmin 4 now that I'm doing my first playthrough. We'll have to see! :)
I just finished watching this, and it's honestly incredible how much effort you put into this video. It goes super in-depth on Louie's character, has good presentation and narraration, I absolutely adore this! You deserve a lot more support, stellar work on this!!!
I kid you not this is one of the greatest videos I’ve seen on Louie, I’ve been thinking of making an analysis myself. the editing in this is amazing. This deserves much more views. I hope your new series does well :)
That's such a high compliment -- thank you so much!! :) And if you want to make an analysis video, I say go for it! It's a lot of work, but a lot of fun.
Y'know, what really gets me about louie is that SPOILERS AHEAD. A: he seems to be a fast learner. After olimar told him that one time to copy what he does, it seems that in his 3rd visit to PNF-404 he had learned from olimar's dandori and then IMPROVED on it, he kicked my goddamn ass in that first dandori battle. He may be thought as incompetent by some, but Louie usually needs a bit of a push in order to get going. B: Louie must have hunted every creature in the piklopedia at least ONCE and figured out how to prepare them for normal meals during the time between olimar leaving pnf-404 without louie for the first time and him controlling the titan dweevil... which would actually make some sense as to how he managed to succesfully hunt these creatures. C: louie is an utter menace. He's managed to eat beasts like the groovy long legs, the smoky mother effin' progg, and he's eaten something he himself dubbed "inedible", the mamuta which he even quoted "tasted like chicken.". He even tamed the goddamn godzilla dog, how is this man so... unpredictable?!
The mentions of Louie's dad and aunt are actually mistranslations from the original Japanese. These were fixed in the Switch port. The script used in the dad reference used ババ "baba" which is a close term of endearment for "grandma". The word "Papa" is spelt using the same symbol by a different diacritic, パパ. This is most likely why your screengrab of Grandma's mention of Dad features the same text twice but replacing "Dad" with "nana" As it's the President that mentions Louie's auntie, he's using the term "obaachan" おばあちゃん for "grandma" specifically someone else's which is just one letter off from "aunt" in the same context おばちゃん "obachan".
I didn’t expect to learn more about Louie than I already knew, but I feel sufficiently enlightened! Really enjoyed the video am shocked to see this is only your third one on this channel! Subbed and hope to see more in the future :) (also really want to know your thoughts on pikmin 4 in a video one day)
Thank you so much!! I'm thrilled you found my video informative and that you're interested in watching the ones I post in the future. :) I think a "Thoughts on Pikmin 4" video sounds fun; I haven't finished my first playthrough (no spoilers, please!), but a lot has changed and it's so fascinating from a worldbuilding and game design perspective.
Louie's "father" only exists in the English version. It was a translation error that they correct in the re-release. In that message, the grandmother uses the familiar (and slightly derogatory) term "baba" to refer to herself, but the translator misrecognized it for "papa", which is a familiar term for "father". In Japanese, the katakana characters used for "baba" are ババ, while the characters for "papa" are パパ. The diacritical marks are the only difference. Regarding Louie being left behind, the conclusion players come to depends on what in-game messages they've read (which depends on how long they've played), and what cultural lens you're viewing the story through. While it seems most players in western markets just chalk it up to Louie being unlucky, stupid, or evil, in Japan, there was a darker undertone to it: Louie jumped ship out of shame. The late-sequence message from their boss indicating that he now suspects Louie of eating the missing cargo decides it. He didn't want to face his boss now that the truth had been exposed, but more importantly, he didn't want to face Olimar (technically his "senpai", a senior in experience in the workplace) after the two had worked together as equals. Whether this decision was made in a moment of panic or after a dark journey of internal blame is left in doubt. Some interpret the fact that you finally discover him sitting dazed in the den of the Titan Dweevil -- not trapped, just placidly sitting there in danger -- as evidence that Louie may have been suicidal. Pikmin 3 lightened this narrative significantly, but for a while in Pikmin 2 times the Louie fandom was very dark and brooding indeed.
Louie probably called himself the King of Bugs because when he first encountered the Titan Dweevil he probably thought it was gonna eat him but when it put him on top of it’s head he probably thought it was basically carrying him as if he was a King, unaware that it just liked the shiny antennae on his helmet. 25:29 The Koppaites didn’t have their drive key so they couldn’t leave the planet, and considering it is a game over when you have no food left they probably starve to death on PNF-404.
Not sure if this is of much interest but i followed an account on tumblr not too long ago called "Louie-posting" which i thought was just a funny lil account where someone roleplays as Louie saying and doing silly Louie things, for example a favorite post of mine is a post of Louie saying "where are my tongs?" And another account called "Waterwraith-posing" reblogged it only saying "clack clack" implying it took Louie's tongs. But i learned pretty fast that there seems to be an actual story playing out that began(to the best of my knowledge) with Louie hosting a grilling party that goes pretty well and was actually pretty cute but until a "Dingo-posting" account brough a CAR to it and Louie, not thinking much of it tried to grill it where it EXPLODES, "killing" Louie. And i say "Killing" like that because now Louie is in a cocoon of sorts and is metamorphosising, he's also pretty upset last time i checked because he couldn't have sauted mushrooms in the cocoon. It's really weird and intriguing at the same time.
I follow that blog!! 🤩 It's on another level of bizarre, but I mean that in the most honorary sense of the word -- whoever is running it is clearly having the time of their life. That sauteing mushrooms post you mentioned got fanart (which I really ought to reblog) and it's become a running joke between my partner and I. Honestly, that in particular is a 3 AM mood. I believe my guy is emerging from the cocoon as of around the time I'm writing this as well. 👀 I'm intrigued to see where that goes!
YOU GET IT!!! louie is such a guy to me i'm glad there's other enjoyers out there. funny enough, i always interpreted his relationship with the president being between The Nepotism Of An Overbearing Uncle and Guy Who Hates His Job But This Is The Only One He Could Get. what else is there to do when the guy writing your paycheck is also the guy who keeps talking about stocks over family dinner but to get a little sillay with it. (also, sidenote, i totally relate to him being more verbose in his written entries versus speaking. or even when he's essentially just talking to himself as opposed to with others. like yeah. yeah. it's like that sometimes)
AHH, THANK YOU! ❤️ Louie enjoyers, rise up! I love your interpretation for his relationship with the president; I can practically feel Louie quietly rolling his eyes but not speaking up about it. (And I can definitely relate to that, too. :'3 I'm still amazed I made such a thorough script for a video like this.) Thank you so much for sharing! :D
My theory that why Louie only spoke food was since he in a spaceship filled with lower amounts of oxygen which is toxic to Hocatations, Louie may be in a sort of drunk state while inside the S.S Drake since his lungs are filled with low amounts of oxygen
i absolutely LOVE the depth and such you gave! i had no idea about the much of a character louie has and whatnot, hell, i’m so hyped to see whatever stuff you’re gonna make!! (i am super interested in the pikmin things you may also talk on >:} )
I think the big thing about Louie is that he’s selfish, not malicious or even stupid, but just very selfish. I don’t think Louie’s reason for stealing the juice is as well meaning as you suggest, but I think it’s due to the stressful situation: he lets his appetite get the better of him and takes the food. I think it’s pretty easy to assume Louie had no friends as a kid, he struggles a lot to have conversations with people in pikmin, and he seems to have a lack of understanding of social norms. And I think it’s this combination of no friends/no understanding of being a person and his hunger that he prioritizes himself with little regard for others. And despite the dark implications of his grandmother’s misguided and abusive practices, they worked in their goal to shape Louie into enjoying being outdoors. Both in how he’s such a good cook with bugs, but also his quick ability to be as skilled as olimar with pikmin in pikmin 2, and surviving on PNF-404 all on his own. And may even inadvertently ended up allowing Louie to connect with bugs and communicate, or control, them. And I think this development of his outdoors nature and introverted and lonely life on Hocotate, a very industrial planet, made Louie go from upset and worried from being abandoned, to being at peace and seemingly wanting to stay on PNF-404, I think (especially cause of spoilers) Louie actually wants to stay on PNF-404, and that he was using the Titan Dweevil to try and keep olimar and the president away so he can stay. I also agree that I think Louie is an interesting character and that he gets a unfair treatment by being treated as nothing more than a malicious monster of a person. I think he’s just a very flawed, extremely selfish, and possibly mentally unwell person with aspirations for living a happy life, whether it be at peace in the wilds of PNF-404, or that successful cook show he dreams of. Also thank you for coming to my TedX talk
Louie being selfish is a perfectly valid way to interpret him! I agree that Louie probably didn't have a lot of social opportunities growing up, that his grandmother's influence helped shape him into being an outdoorsman (and probably also helped him gain that insect connection), and that he likely just... wants a nice life for himself. I'd go on if I had more time, but your comment is very well-constructed and thoughtful. :) Thank you so much for sharing!
Great video! Are you gonna do one on 4 eventually it has very interesting Louie content. And also as an autistic person I hc as being autistic as well. Since he’s very specific about food among other things like his quietness, sense of humor, etc!
ANOTHER AUTISTIC LOUIE HEADCANONER LETS GOOOO🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝 also!! In pikmin 4 (Spoilers btw) he only started making castaways into leaflings because Olimar told him to “just copy what he does”, so when Olimar started making castaways into leaflings Louie just copied him. He probably takes things too literally, which is a autistic trait :)
Thank you!! I definitely want to do a follow-up eventually with Pikmin 4's info once I'm done with my first full playthrough of the game. :) And ooh, that's a fascinating headcanon for him; I can totally see cooking being one of Louie's special interests, too!
>Louie doesn't doom Koppai because he doesn't take the seeds that were already extracted from fruit I don't think that's necessarily the point of Louie dooming Koppai, because Louie taking the crew's entire juice supply is such a critically dangerous position for them and is considered Game Over if they're unable to get and retain at least one bottle of juice before catching Louie and taking their supply back, effectively meaning the crew starves and can't bring the seeds back to Koppai. Also Louie completely jumps the gun, he's attacked by the Scornet Maestro but wakes up in a ship away from what he was last attacked by. Disorienting, sure, but it's definitely not malicious.
In Pikmin 2, most of the level themes for Olimar are written in a 4/4 time signature. This is a very simple and classic time signature historically for most all western music, if you hear a song there is a higher than likley chance good chance it's in 4/4. Louie's on the other hand are the same score but depicted often in a 3/4 time signature, which isn't that rare but the difference in natural note emphisis transforms the song into that "swing" you depicted. This could mean many things, but one fact for sure is Louie always works at his own tempo.
Ooh, thank you for clearing that up! Time signatures were always rather nebulous for me, so I appreciate you putting the difference in layman's terms, especially in regards to the emphasis. Louie absolutely marches to the beat of his own drum! :)
Louie always gave me “that weird kid at recess” vibes and as a result it gives me mixed feelings cause I was always “that weird kid at recess” to my own peers. Never ate bugs or grass or anything, but my interest in insects and anatomy was (still is a bit) obsessive and I can be very impulsive, absent minded, and even a bit selfish in situations with others. Both his good and bad traits are familiar to me, which is why I get mixed feelings. I always preferred playing by myself, picking up and inspecting the fascinating bugs outside alone because I was confused by my peers at best and severely annoyed into scaring them off at worst. I like to imagine he willingly chose to stay behind, because I often wished I could get left behind in my own little world of aliens and bugs, since I always felt out of place and uninterested in other people. So yeah, I’m a Louie apologist. Also I violated the Geneva convention once or twice, too. Oopsie Daisy, kings stay winnin’.
Kings stay winnin' indeed! :) I know exactly what you mean by Louie having "weird kid at recess" vibes; I headcanon him as growing up with that experience. I understand having mixed feelings about him while relating to that. Louie's exactly the sort of kid I liked approaching on the playground to see if we could quietly be friends; my childhood bestie was a lot like him (even down to the love of bugs!), so I can't help but have a soft spot for the guy... even with space crimes under his belt. ;D Thank you so much for sharing!
It has actually since been confirmed Louie was actually controlling the titan dweevil, though Olimar does not believe Louie is a bad person even when presented with evidence he’s convinced it’s just a miss understanding.
I think I have another explanation as to why Louie only says “food” that also suggests a language barrier. Because of the fact that Olimar has been working for Hocotate Freight for a long time, he must’ve learned multiple languages to better communicate with customers or negotiate with space pirates if they happened not to speak the same language, and it so happened to be that he learned the Koppaite’s language. Louie, on the other hand, had only started working in Hocotate Freight a few months ago, so being the newbie that he is to the job, did not know the same language as the Koppaites, apart from the single word “food.” This remains rather consistent as the only times Louie is not saying just “food” is in the logs and never in person, to which it could be explained that Olimar’s and Louie’s logs are automatically translated by the Koppaites’ tablets
Ooh, I really love the thought you put into this -- thank you so much for sharing! :) I could definitely see Olimar as the type to be a polyglot from having worked at Hocotate Freight for a while, whereas Louie has yet to pick up other tongues. The tablets having built-in translation functions also makes perfect sense to me. This is good stuff!
GREAT VIDEO! honestly my head-cannon before this vid was "Louie is a lazy prodigy that REALLY loves PNF-404 ('cause he gets to dine on all the monsters/bugs{further supported by the bug emails}) and thus, doesn't wanna leave so he tries to fight back." but now i understand that he's all that AND petty, however since he apologizes to Olimar @ the end of the Pikmin 3 deluxe epilogue I can recognize that he's just human (or hocotatian). he makes a couple mistakes & just wants to be alone & do his own thing. (at least until Pikmin 4 where it returns to just "ion WANNA leave!!")
After playing pikmin 4 I kinda doubt if Olimar is a good judge of Louie's character, hoohboy. I don't think he's a jerk for the sake of being a jerk but my man's got issues and trouble maker doesn't even BEGIN to cut it.
Personally i dont like louie. I do think he's interesting, but I also think he's a huge dick. Pikmin 4 spoilers btw. He seems to care more for food than the well being of others, likely only hasn't eaten pikmin because they can transport food and kill creatures for him to eat (and actually has tried to eat a rock pikmin before im pretty sure), is the entire reason why the president is in debt in pikmin 2 and is constantly on the run, controls the sirehound which is an ancient and peaceful creature to try and kill you and your pikmin, and tries to leafify innocent people for unknown reasons (maybe it was because it can heal them or something, but i think it was probably just to try and get more pikmin so he could transport even more food even faster). He isn't as bad as i thought he was before watching the video, but he's still a bad guy.
I’ve always just assumed Louie went to some pikmin 3 locations during his time alone in pikmin 2 and couldn’t think of what words would explain why the shiny gold thing over there is a bad idea. He’s not the best at communication despite everyone falling for a single lie he told one time.
Ooh, I like this interpretation! :) Louie's definitely not the best at communicating; I can see his fumbled attempts at warnings not sinking in for poor Olimar. "Louie's refusing to go for some reason" is pretty much what Olimar says, so very evidently he didn't convey his motives for staying behind all that well. Thank you so much for sharing!!
That's reassuring to hear!! I don't have a Reddit account, so I mostly hear about people wanting to punt him on RU-vid and Tumblr and such. I'm glad there's a corner of the internet that loves Louie. :)
I had no clue the music changed in Pikmin 2. I wonder if it does that with the president... But anyways, I can see the amount of effort you put into this video! Good work! At first I thought you were a pretty popular channel, but, 200 subs? YOU NEED MORE RECOGNITION! Being a small channel myself, this honestly compells me to work on more stuff. Keep it up, and you could have a bright future ahead of you!
The adaptive music does, indeed, also kick in when playing as the President. :) And thank you so much for your kind words; I know I plan to put out more videos in the near future, and I'm so excited to get creating! Meanwhile, I'm sending productive vibes your way! Make those videos!! You've got this!!
Same here. :( I've heard whispers that it might be further supported in Pikmin 4, too, though I haven't seen him yet on my first playthrough so I can't confirm. If so... poor guy....
So refreshing to see someone be talking abt louie in a positive way instead of calling him evil. A few things i should point out, first with the part in pikmin 3 where the Kopaits and Hocatates HATE each other, so how's is louie supposed to know what's going on with them? Idk if anyone else has pointed this out but i should throw that out there Another thing abt louie is that alot of ppl (at least on Tumblr) headcanon him as being nerdivergent in general, mainly autistic, though most evidence for this is in pikmin 4 from what ive seen. I do not have autism but instead adhd and i really relate to louie in certain aspects. Ppl also like to hc him as having low empathy and as someone with fluctuating empathy, I highly agree So when ppl call him evil and "psychotic" i tend to raise an eyebrow Edit: i have so many more things to point out about why so many ppl hc him as neurodivergent, but that would be pikmin 4 spoilers LOL
Well said! :) Yeah, I don't feel comfortable when Louie is called evil or "psychotic" either. Neurodivergent I can certainly see -- and I'm very interested to eventually review his notes in Pikmin 4 and determine what evidence there is which can contribute to that -- but I don't think he's nearly as bad of a person people say he is. Also, fair point about the Koppaites and Hocotatians! It seems like in Pikmin 3, the two planets (at least from the POV of our Koppaite captains) seem to have strained relations. I feel like that 1) contributes to misinformation on either side and 2) gives Louie even MORE incentive to flee from the Drake before they can explain themselves to him. Thank you so much for pointing that out!!
I have a different theory as to why he only says "food" over and over in Pikmin 3. Olimar said Louie eats three times as much as he does, and now Louie is being held captive and only being fed 1/4 of a jar of fruit juice every day. He's probably really hungry and upset, and it's all he can think about.
!!!! Ooooh, I love this! :D And that might help explain why he's constantly chanting for food even after Olimar is rescued, because he's relieved that he'll (presumably) finally be able to have a real meal. Thank you so much for sharing!
I am so glad you like Louie too, one of my friends hates him so much and I feel like I’m alone in my liking of him. Thank you so much for this video. (PS, with no spoilers, you might like Louie less after completing 4)
You are most definitely not alone! :D I'm certain the vast majority of my current subscribers follow me thanks to my Louie video, so that's 1,400+ people who like him (or at least appreciate his character)! :) I'm glad I could give him some of the love he deserves! (And we'll see about that! 💙 I have no doubts he's causing some kind of trouble and I'm excited to ponder over it and consider why.)
@ScaleTree ah perfect, no spoilers again but there are three things Louie gets flack for in 4 but two of them can be explained with evidence in the story and one can be debated, but the Pikmin fandom being the Pikmin fandom has taken this as Louie finally proving he’s pure evil, even the previously Louie friendly subreddit has turned against him, if you beat 4 and need help finding said evidence, I can definitely help you!
This is such a fantastic analysis on Louie’s character but I want to throw in my 2 cents on his character while avoiding spoilers for Pikmin 4. 1. I like the implication that Louie doesn’t like his job a Hocotate Freight, or was forced into it. It’s very clear he wants to be a chef and considering Olimar does comment that the meals he makes are legitimately delicious he definitely has the talent for it. Personally I have the HC that Louie’s father is the one who forced him to get a job at the company (Maybe even bribing the president to do so hence why he’s so complimentary towards Louie.) leading to their implied rocky relationship. 2. I always take it that Louie is in his 20s while Olimar is in his late 30’s and considering Louie is a new employee journeying with olimar on an alien planet, with the latter guiding him through things as they repay the dept, I like to think Olimar did get attached to Louie as sort of a weird surrogate son (Mostly because he hasn’t seen his family in a long time) and considering what Pikmin 4 seems to imply, Louie at the very least does somewhat respect olimar back.
Ooh, these are both awesome takes! :) I may have to adopt them into my Louie headcanons list, haha. The idea Louie might have been pushed into the Hocotate Freight job by his father despite his aspirations, Olimar latching to Louie as a pseudo-son... thank you so much for the food, dear viewer. I'm so glad you shared this!!
@@ScaleTree I feel Louie does at the very least respects Olimar to an extent (Not as much as his Nana obviously) because he did warn Olimar about the formidable oak and doesn’t seem to have any ill will towards him trying to get him to listen compared to everyone else. Also Olimar likes Louie’s cooking so there’s probably a reason for said weird respect, Olimar was probably the first person to give Louie’s cooking skills a chance.
