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Grow tomatoes close together and grow more of them. Grow tomatoes vertically to control your plants, access all the tomato fruit, and reduce tomato disease problems. Gardener Scott shows how he grows more tomatoes in less space by pruning and trellising tomato plants. (Video #184)
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@jasondananay1800 4 года назад

My neighbors are always alarmed at how aggressively I prune my tomatoes. They look sad at times, but the results are fantastic. Great video!

@plantsoverpills1643 3 года назад

I agree!!!

@lisagilmore4519 4 года назад

I’m using a cattle panel for the first time this year, I really like it for the tomatoes and cucumbers. Have a great evening

@elisataylor556 4 года назад

I had a HUGE branch from not pruning and I cut it and put it into moisture retaining potting soil on June 16 (I logged it in my journal) and last night when I checked it the roots are very well formed (thank you clear paint can liner). It will be going into a bigger container next week. I hope to start a few more that way.

@davebodily6807 4 года назад

The UPS man delivered my tomato clips today. What a great product. Works great very little cost, and the best part, you can reuse them next year.

@j.b.6855 4 года назад

Great video that shows how to deal with plants that have been damaged but have started to grow again. I tend to be lazy about pruning tomatoes and they have 3 or 4 good growing tops before I get to them. I usually cut one off and put it in water to root then plant them I have some real sturdy tomato cages, but this year I put in three 8foot cattle panel trellises. I used them for my melons (Sugar Baby Watermelon and Tiger melon) and cucumbers and I am real happy with them. I am trying to figure out how to add one or two more.

@DahVoozel 2 года назад

Don't forget, if you have a long season, suckers can be rooted into new plants.

@lauriewilliams8221 4 года назад

Thanks G. Scott, I do the posts 5 feet apart with the horizontal rails starting about 8" from the ground to tie the first time to the horizontal rail with 1" strips of cotton bed sheets with a figure 8 twist around the main stem. Then as they grow I put additional horizontal rails up about 12" higher.& tie them to that one.The BUGGERS don't tell me how they are going to grow, I tell them firmly, lol. All lower branches are taken off, leaving 4 leaf stems, then, when I have about 6 stems, I take the next two lower ones out, leaving 4 again, until 18" high.I Espalier the plants along the rails & always enjoy the results every year. Love your Videos -- from Down-Under💚💚🦘🦘🍅🆗🍅🦘🍅🦘

@ritasenergyherbs3650 2 года назад

Thanks to you Scott, this year I finally feel like I pruned my tomatoes correctly. This and another of your videos did a great job explaining how to identify a sucker, but then this...tells us not all suckers are bad. I have learned to visit the garden, especially my cabbages every morning, to pluck cabbage worms. I also utilized cattle panels this year, encouraged by your videos. At some point I will send you a photograph of my Gardner Scott inspired projects.

@fel944 Год назад

Hi Scott thanks for the tip I grow in5 gallon bucket stay safe 😊😊

@MadCheshireHat 2 года назад

Thank you for mentioning not to do this with determinate tomatoes!! I didn't know there was a difference in treatment between the two. You just saved the future romas! Other videos/channels do not specify this.

@INIFANDY 4 года назад

thank you for the video, it's very useful for me. I will apply it to my tomato plant later

@dianed.1950 4 года назад

Using wire panels this year as well. Tomatoes, Pole beans, zucchini, butternut squash, cucs, all doing great. 🤗

@gardeningwithcorey3822 4 года назад

Thanks man you have given me a ton of info and i have decided to start a yt channel because of you.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

That's awesome!

@divinedbag 4 года назад

it's interesting to see you training your tomatoes to two stems--most gardeners i see on YT tend to go single stem and space them very closely (12-24"). how do you like your two stem V-method compared to a single stem? do you think it's better for overall production to let them fork this way and maybe have a few less plants per row/bed but more growth per plant? this is my second year gardening and ive learned a lot from your channel! very good content and concise presentation.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Because my season tends to be relatively short, my tomatoes don't reach the height that other single-stem growers do. The two stems give me more production. When I grew tomatoes in a greenhouse, single stems 12"-24" apart worked well and the plants reached 12'-15' high.

@ttb1513 3 года назад

This was very informative. I see @10:19 Gardener Scott is even more aggressive than just "2 stem V-method". Even with 2’ plant spacing he is able to have each branch of the V branch into its own V, etc. ; more than just a 2 stem method. Good to know what’s possible, since I used only single stem last year with same spacing. I’ll probably experiment with plant spacing AND number of stems.

@anneg8319 4 года назад

Awesome! Thank you so much for teaching us an alternative tomato pruning method. I'm looking forward to trying this.

@apjewell 2 года назад

I just watched a couple of your videos for the first time and have subscribed. So clear and to the point, I'm learning a lot. Thank you!

@GardenerScott 2 года назад

Thanks, Andy. Welcome to the channel!

@patriciarussell8450 4 года назад

Love the "V" concept will be doing this next year, maybe even try it with some other things this fall. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. You are super!

@thekidcalifornia7509 4 года назад

Thanks for the videos love them I have gotten a lot out of your videos your soil mix for containers allowed me to grow a ton of food this year

@lonigirl8807 2 года назад

Can you take those cuttings and repot to make more plants? That would be nice gifts to give away.

@GardenerScott 2 года назад

Yes. They become a clone of the main plant.

@karffiol 3 года назад

"This sucker has grown much stronger" - Gardener Scott out of context

@caroll1457 3 года назад

Always enjoy your videos! Very informative and thorough! Take care and happy gardening!

@jolenedial618 3 года назад

You may have covered this in another video, but, I haven’t come across it yet. Where do your support strings terminate at plant level? Thank you for these videos. This was my first year with a sizable garden attempt and I have learned a lot here!

@GardenerScott 3 года назад

I do discuss and show that in other videos. I usually tie a loose loop at the base of the plant or use a tomato clip at the base of the plant.

@therealz360z7 2 года назад

It's often in the plant's habit climbing triple crop will grow fifteen feet tall but not bushy where some tomato it's habit takes way more space.

@amandavhb1630 4 года назад

Great video as always! I am going the cattle panel route next year. I live in a shrub steppe/high wind environment. Those tomato cages are such a pain!

@plantsoverpills1643 3 года назад

It looks like you are essentially creating a tomato espalier; a great idea. This technique really helps you get to know your tomato. It’s so much better than letting the tomatoes sprawl on the ground. I’ve had so much mouse damage when tomatoes sit on the ground. Every bit of experience I have growing tomatoes substantiates everything you’ve said here!!! Can’t wait to incorporate this method!!!!

@ahmadghosheh3104 4 года назад

I use tomatoes cages but I do trim it hard to keep the plant within the cage. I olant 2 per 3x3 boxe and get 8 in the planter.

@niazsgallery 3 года назад

Excellent information!! Thanks for sharing. Much appreciated.👍👌

@heidiclark6612 4 года назад

Very informative video. I never tried that. Thank You.

@lynnelliot7256 4 года назад

Can probably use reinforcing mesh, it looks the same but is used to put in concrete for added strength

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Concrete mesh can work but is a much thinner gauge and not as strong.

@dorisjimison7590 Год назад

You look like Beau Bridges in this video.

@vickiolson1198 2 года назад

It is possible to create new tomato plants from pruned off suckers.

@jefffarris9238 4 года назад

Hi Scott, one more comment: This video could easily be titled "How to Recover Your Tomato Plants From Hail Damage." You must have been really disappointed when your plants got hit pretty badly by the hail storm. But the pruning techniques you show are really great. You may be a bit behind at this point, but with hot weather, they should catch up the rest of this month and into August. I also like how you planted the suckers. I have put them in water first to get some roots going, and then planted them, but that step may not be necessary.

@divinedbag 4 года назад

i tried both of these methods to clone tomatoes this season and they both worked well. one thing i noticed is if you plant directly in soil they may wilt for a while and look like they aren't going to make it but they bounce back in a few days. getting the roots going in water first seems to make the transition easier, but is an extra step and make take a little more time.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Good point, Jeff. It is tough to lose a month in the garden due to weather, but the plants are recovering well. Thanks.

@roccoconte2960 4 года назад

Are those the tomatoes that got hit by that hail storm you had? They came back pretty strong, good video Scott.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Yes, those are the same tomatoes. Most have recovered well. Thanks!

@julieparker830 2 года назад

I have always been told to prune off a lot of the leaf branches. I gather that it lets more light into the plant and puts energy into growing more fruit. I haven't noticed that you do this though. What do you think?

@GardenerScott 2 года назад

Tomatoes can quickly take up a lot of space and that's why it's often recommended to remove teh suckers. It depends on how big you want the plant. Letting more of the branches grow will lead to more tomatoes.

@angelinegrows7765 4 года назад

Wish we could get cattle panels in England , what a great garden tool !

@annwithaplan9766 4 года назад

Angeline Bowes - You don't have that kind of thing there? Why not just make your own with poles and wires?

@jjpemorin4365 4 года назад

You may want to look into steel concrete reinforcement mesh. It is practically the same and I have seen panels for 40 £.

@chrisdahl864 4 года назад

If you can get a "roll" of 4x6 or 4x4 wire, use that. I used a 6ft x 100ft roll to make cages, I remember calculating pi x r squared to figure out how long a piece to cut and then roll the ends together. Cut the wire so you can use the cut to bend a "J" hook to connect the ends. Use pliers to make the "J" or you'll cut your fingers up...painful! Also, if the opening isn't big enough to harvest thru, cut the wire in the middle and bend it out of the way, do not cut right by the cross wire or you'll have a razor sharp edge that will cut your hands and arms to ribbons! They are sturdy and my tomatoes grew over the tops!

@jefffarris9238 4 года назад

Hi Scott, thanks for the video. I know that a lot of growers use this vertical twine method, but it looks way too wobbly for my taste. This year I am using 7 foot and 6 foot bamboo or plastic stakes, and so far, so good. Next year, I am considering using the cattle panel method.

@jefffarris9238 4 года назад

The only downside to the cattle panel method is you pretty much have to dedicate an entire bed to tomatoes. That's fine, but last year my tomatoes got decimated in August with either leaf spot or early blight. It started on one end of the bed, and made its way down the bed over a couple of weeks. This year, I have my tomatoes spread out in four raised beds and two grow bags to avoid them all getting hit one after the other by a disease.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Yes, a permanent trellis limits flexibility and is not my preferred method. That's why I like the cattle panel arches because I can move them easily to new beds each year.

@johnjude2685 3 года назад

Sir; I have built the trails this spring as shown by Scott Head and a few others in you tube. I'm seeing this video and shur I have seen it before,( probably several times) . I'm now seeing the fence is in place of conduct as many and some claim to be a cheaper way to build , I'm pretty shure that cost in not much to convince me the convince and time saved as the plant working itself and be less training time later. Is your fence method as good when our windy summer storms in or Ohio thunder storms blowing pass? If not for the wind your system looks improved. Thanks Gardenar Scott for your teaching Sir

@GardenerScott 3 года назад

My trellis held up to 80mph winds last year.

@ssfoste 4 года назад

Very good vid. Thank you

@leefield2382 4 года назад

Is there any difference in growth of the tomatoes if it’s in a hanging basket instead of in the ground?

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Yes. When I tested the methods, the upside down tomato was much smaller than those in the ground.

@leefield2382 4 года назад

Gardener Scott Thanks for your advice, I’ll stick to planting in the ground.

@jacquiesuper2200 4 года назад

Great info!!!

@haroldgolden5437 4 года назад

Good job!

@amandachamberlain3169 2 года назад

I'm definitely trying it this way this year. How many blocks wide is that bed? I've made my beds from the cinder blocks and I'm rearranging them this year. I've been debating on 3 or 4...

@GardenerScott 2 года назад

The bed is four blocks wide.

@jimthiel5857 3 года назад

How do I distinguish between determinate and indeterminate tomato plants?

@GardenerScott 3 года назад

It's virtually impossible to tell by looking at the plant until it grows more than a few feet tall. Plant tags and seed packets should tell and an online search of the variety will confirm.

@jimthiel5857 3 года назад

@@GardenerScott thank you I hope her. All kinds of theories that's the one that makes the most sense to me there are gardeners who claim they absolutely know it is indeterminate or determinant. Thank you you always respond to my questions and I appreciate that like you'll never know thanks again Brother Scott

@eddiemills6222 2 года назад

When we go to the nursery to get plants, the tags in the plant trays typically tell you if the plant is Determinant or Indeterminate.

@lynnelliot7256 4 года назад

Thanks for reply. Could i use wooden trellis on a fence?

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Sure. Anything strong enough to hold the tomatoes up will work.

@dedreali2783 4 года назад

Hello from the Caribbean Gardener Scott. As a newbie gardener I am learning soooo much from you. Is there a way to control the height of indeterminate tomato plants. I have a few in a bed where I am only able to construct a trellis up to 5 feet in height. I was wondering if there is a way to safely cut the top to control the height to which the trees grow. Thank you.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

It's easy to control the height. By cutting off the tips of the growing stems, further vertical growth will be stopped. That will generate more suckers so be ready to prune those as necessary.

@dedreali2783 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott Thank you so much.

@drhelenloney1426 4 года назад

we had a week of unusually hot weather here in the UK, 35-40, in May, and my tomatoes in the greenhouse got a nasty shock and stopped growing. They are now sending suckers up again, but I don't know what the future holds for them. In addition, I grew them in grow bags, which I think made things worse.

@AdventureIndiana 2 года назад

When you do this, do you periodically go back and shorten the strings as plants grow taller? I assume you have to go back and adjust, or is OK once it hits trellis? Great video!

@GardenerScott 2 года назад

I don't shorten the twine because I re-use it later. I will use additional tomato clips along the twine as the plants grow taller.

@anniecochrane3359 4 года назад

How do you fix the twine at the ground level? Or do you leave it loose and just attach the tomato step using the tomato clips? Thanks!

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

I tie a very loose loop around the base of the plant just to hold it in place. The tomato clips support the plant.

@kschleich1950 2 года назад

I’m in the Northwest and nothing but rain and cold weather all spring. I have 20 tomato plants that are beautiful, green and healthy. Most in raised beds and a few in containers. But no tomatoes. So depressing. Any ideas?

@GardenerScott 2 года назад

Cold temperatures can slow the growth of flowers. When it finally warms up you should see flowers shortly after.

@rebeccasladky7678 Год назад

Please tell me how to figure out if a tomato plant is either a determinate or non determinate. Thank you!

@GardenerScott Год назад

You really can't tell when the plant is young. You need to know the variety. Seed packets usually identify them. Knowing the name allows you to research them.

@classicrocklover5615 Год назад

There are lists on Google

@jessicae1052 4 года назад

How tall is your trellis, including the empty space below? My cherry toms are already 4ft; seems like they'll be 10 ft tall by autumn 😁 What do you do if they grow taller than the trellis?

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

The trellis is 78 inches high. You can let them grow taller that the trellis and they'll begin to fall below the top. Cutting the tip will stop further growth.

@TNBushcrafter 4 года назад

I've had some indeterminates grow over 12'. I have woven my own net trellis that is 12' wide and 10' tall. My favorite raised veggie bed is 12' wide across the back. I use 2" pvc to support the net. I use bank line that each strand can support 315 lbs. If they get to tall and frost is closing in you can top an indeterminate to get it set all the fruit, a great practice for canning.

@jessicae1052 4 года назад

Thank you both very much!

@kkelner7880 4 года назад

Love your site! Appreciate the information! Can you help me identify a problem with my tomatoes? Fruit gets these black/brownish round moldy looking circles on the fruit. Not blossom end rot, it's allover. What could this be and how can I treat? It only happens in plants that are grown directly in the garden, not those grown in pots. wish I could post a picture!

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

It could be a fungal problem. You can do an online search of the symptoms to see if you can identify it.

@kkelner7880 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott Thank you. A quick search states it might be Anthracnose Fruit Rot. It's a start. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

@joseramos-ky6oz 4 года назад

like always, an excellent vid, thnx.I have just 2 quick questions. First, is there a way to get an alert on my phone when u post a new vid? Secondly , what type of tomato do u recommend to start germinating in Miami this time of yr? If anyone of Scott's subscribers knows, please let me know. b @ peace and b safe, Jose s

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Thanks! If you go to my channel home page you should see that you are subscribed and next to that box is a bell. Click on the bell to choose the option of being notified. Check with your local Extension office and ask local gardeners about what varieties will do well in a couple months when you put them outside.

@davidgeorge484 4 года назад

I had to move so I don't have my old garden area. This year i planted tomatoes in large plastic containers and they are doing great. Now I live in West Texas and we have been having 100 to 106 degree temperatures. I noticed the leaves are starting to curl up on my tomatoes. Is this a watering problem? or stress from the heat? any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Curled leaves are often a sign of stress and water issues. Containers will dry out faster than garden beds so you may need to water more often. Check the soil moisture level to be sure.

@PStew262 3 года назад

GS, Do you plant any flowers with your tomatoes/ garden ?

@GardenerScott 3 года назад

I often plant nasturtium and marigold with my tomatoes.

@treebeard7140 4 года назад

Seems like you have done many gardening experiments to find your preferred methods.

@ar471 4 года назад

Do you use the same method for cherry and currant tomatoes as well?

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Sure. As long as they are indeterminate plants.

@ar471 4 года назад

Gardener Scott Thank you, sir. Thoroughly enjoy the videos. Keep up the great work.

@garyradford9381 4 года назад

Hello. AT Gardner Scott this Gary from hot AZ 114 today was watching your videos that sprayer you use what kind is that 30 in ? And where did you pick it up at does it come with that end it did you buy a special one ?? Thanks Gary R.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Hi, Gary. This is the 30" sprayer I use: amzn.to/3eGwEB3

@garyradford9381 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott Thank you Gary

@garyradford9381 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott Hello again I made my wooden light hanger my daughter has my light coming from Amazon on Monday I am going to start my seeds 1st part of September indoors then trans plant them out in my raised bed 1st part do you think that's about the the right time frame for harvest in December , you thoughts please I think I am going to try tomatoes again / cucumber / peas ETC. Thanks Gary

@garyradford9381 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott Hello , Gary from AZ that MYLAR you use in your grow lt room where did you get it and how much was it if you remember thanks Gary from AZ

@colinmacdonald8738 4 года назад

thanks for your expertise Gardener Scott. Im a first time 79yr old gardener. last dec2019 i changed from flowers to all edible greens . i originally seeded about 800 plants under 5 double florescents it was a challenge but worth it. Ive made many mistakes. I planted two rows of potatoes about 18” apart then planted 22 tomatoe plants in between . As the plants grew the tomatoes went straight up . ive used a strong gardening cord with a small bamboostake for each determinant plant. i have tomatoes but only at the top. But lots of potatoes thanks to Tony O’neill. harvested my first cosco bag and got 28 potatoes some small to med but delicious. i have about 44 tomatoe spread through out the garden in fact my friend julie worked in the garden today and we planted the rest of the seedlings in an open space. CMACSHACKEDIBLEGARDENS

@elchefreedom5063 4 года назад

Would love to see something on herbs, please Mr Gardener Scott 🤙🏽 (mr is for master not mister 😍)

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

Thanks for the suggestion. It's on my list and I'm planning future herb videos.

@ttb1513 3 года назад

@@GardenerScott looking forward to herb video. I noticed your comment in a seed starting video that some/many herbs have a tap root that can be damaged while transplanting seedlings. Since I was thinking direct sowing would be too late, I’m looking to resolve this dilemma.

@nancygriffith7026 4 года назад

How do you know What kind of tomato you are growing?

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

I have plant tags that identify them.

@nancygriffith7026 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott What tomatoes are indeterminate?.

@serrielu8025 4 года назад

Won’t pruning stimulate vegetation at expense of flowering?

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

It can stimulate the growth of suckers, but the plant stress also stimulates the production of flowers.

@katieloss5772 4 года назад

Gardener Scott, the use of strings and the two types of cattle panel trellises is revelatory. Are all tomato clips designed to have a small pinch point to hold the twine and then the larger circle for the tomato branch? As I look on amazon to buy some, it is hard to tell, especially because some of the additional close-up photos show a tomato clip circling another branch tomato branch or the tomato clip circling one branch and a slim bamboo stake, not the string method. Thank you! My 6 toms, are each centered in one 12” square, which I now think may be too closely spaced, with a single pole for support in each square. I’ve been using twine around the pole and then have been trying to pull in the wayward branches to it. I think I learned this technique when a child in a summer gardening program in the 1960’s-way before tomato clips were invented. Now as a novice gardener I’m looking to Learn and Act to do better next time. I certainly ENJOY! My garden project. Thank you!

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

The tomato clips I use are designed to pinch twine and encircle the stems. These are the ones I use: amzn.to/2OAZbgN Your tomato plants may be a bit close together, but should be okay with pruning.

@katieloss5772 4 года назад

Gardener Scott Thank you, so much! This is helpful. I hate to be a bother, but what size nylon twine do you use that works well with this clip? Would you mind also posting that link? I notice there are all different diameters of twine. Thank you!!

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

I try to include links to the things I use in the video description and I did that with this video too. Here's the twine: amzn.to/2Zj5Dz9

@katieloss5772 4 года назад

Gardener Scott Thank you! This is very helpful!

@thekidcalifornia7509 4 года назад

Questions.. i allowed my toms to grow like this it seems like I would have had more toms if I had pruned down to 2 main stems only like it was trying to spread too much of its energy. I only got about 5 or 6 toms from each and then they got blight is that a nutrients issue

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

It is a possible nutrient issue and/or the plant was stressed. Blight is a soil-borne disease and weaker plants are more susceptible.

@JoeBlack14 4 года назад

Is there a reason why you let so many suckers grow? With my tomatoes I cut the suckers when they first show. July 4th visitors took most of your time maybe? Just wondering if there is a benefit to letting a few grow and then cutting them. Usually I let mine grow to 4-5 feet before i let suckers grow.

@GardenerScott 4 года назад

My weather is so harsh that I have to be careful. As I experienced with a recent hail storm, most of the branches and suckers were ripped off the plants in the storm. I need to wait until the plants are bigger to ensure I have enough growing points for them to survive.

@JoeBlack14 4 года назад

@@GardenerScott Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for your time.

@DanCooper404 4 года назад

I like to let a few suckers grow long before I remove them. I put them in water for a week or so, then plant them in pots. I have a little greenhouse I'm going to put up in late summer. The plants are then going inside it in 5 gallon buckets for a second, late-season tomato harvest.

@charlesstock64 4 года назад

This year, my first, I am using the cattle panels as Gardener Scott uses fro my cherry tomatoes. I planted them near the sides of the trellis and using clips to grow suckers in a pattern that takes advantage of the trellis framework along with string supports for the main trunk. They are growing well here in NH, about 5’ tall now with lots of green fruit and flowers. I have some shade tolerate plants in their shadow like some lettuces. I also have a couple of determinate tomato plants (ones that are really high in Lycopene) that I tie up with cord to support them and keep air flow. Thanks for all the tips and help.