I think the best part of the whole match was that Helena finished and she didn't do one of those big scream things after winning, she went back to her opponent and shook her hand and acknowledge her skill throughout the match (even though Helena just won her ticket to the biggest nogi competition)!
Love both of these girls, much talent! For this match though, I would like to give special thanks to the commentators of this match for staying so quiet and not waking me up.
@@dovaboy94 Indeed, but its really what lot of grapplers are doing. Notice, for instance, how weak their wrestling is, how weak their stand up grappling are, I could go on and on. I'm not an elite grappler, far from it, not even close to the high level skill set, but my wrestling background combine with my decade of BJJ enables me to impose my stand up grappling game to most high level grapplers, and often, they get pissed and dive in shoot straight for a shallow double leg. THAT is what I call testing, cause wrestlers dont do that. They figure out a way to set up, prep and planify a good technical takedown. Yes BJJ grapplers are still testing a lot of their stuff. At times, they arent even master on their own turf.
@@dovaboy94 A 20 year experience black belt judo guy will smash lot of BJJ upperbelts on their own turs, smash for a D1 wrestling beast smash steamrolling through BJJ guys. Why ? Cause lot of BJJ students dont study how to stop, block, read the non-BJJ styles. I dedicate my game to stopping lot of judo and wrestling guys, makes boring sparring, but hell with this, they cant throw me around or double leg me, and that give me a good name in their minds. I earn their respect and they love to roll with me.
Can someone explain to me the trials qualifying system? I tot Mo Black already qualified since she won the Trial 1 which means already qualified for the finals? Why is she allowed to compete again? And hypothetically speaking, if she won this match, what happens then!?
@@gc2276 ironically you're complaining about someone complaining. Why don't you go watch some grass grow? Original poster is right: this match was shitty.
@@10pmmemes88 you made comment first and I made comment on your comment. I do not complain I suggest you post your fight of any sort so all of us can see greatness on mats. Or it is that you have no skills to show? But definitely you have mouth to criticize others that are much better than you are.
Keep on mind, BJJ isnt a spectator friendly sport. The ruleset is also not very sport-like. Weird to say but it should be called a sport, or martial art. The pin position you saw, where Crevar was on top hold/pin/controling Black for time trying to advance with a slow conservative grinding style, would never be accepted in other regulated martial arts. Not sure the BJJ world is looking to improve that stalling (like, kind of) aspect of the art. It seems to favor some types of grapplers, so it might stay that way for much longer. But, if more and more young grapplers follow the Ruotolo bother's path, you might have grappling to become a spectator's sport for a new era.
@@gc2276 Keep on mind, BJJ isnt a spectator friendly sport. The ruleset is also not very sport-like. Weird to say but it should be called a sport, or martial art. The pin position you saw, where Crevar was on top hold/pin/controling Black for time trying to advance with a slow conservative grinding style, would never be accepted in other regulated martial arts. Not sure the BJJ world is looking to improve that stalling (like, kind of) aspect of the art. It seems to favor some types of grapplers, so it might stay that way for much longer. But, if more and more young grapplers follow the Ruotolo bother's path, you might have grappling to become a spectator's sport for a new era.
@@mavzolej there’s enough women weight division trust me. It’s just not enough women’s competitors as you said so if there’s no one in their weight, then they usually go up in weight. 😅 i’m lucky that I’m in a division that has a good amount of girls but when I was a little bit heavier, there was absolutely nobody and I always had to go up in something.
It looks more like one of those bizarre, off broadway, modern dance performances than it does a real sport. I do dig the Captain America under roos however.
for a sport that is suppose to end on the ground with a submission, taking half the time (4 minutes) to get a take down is ridiculous, stalling need to be called more and takedowns attempts need to be more encourage
Competitors have one goal and that is to win. Rules are made by organization that hosting event and competitors who take risky move can be penalized and have higher chance to lose. That is what happened to Helena on trials in Atlantic city. I believe this time she didn't want to risk her chance to qualify for worlds. On other side Mo is known for real good wrestling and she is almost 30 years old and Helena is just 17 years old. If you compare their experience and possibility to improve who you think have more chance to improve in next 5 to 10 years? But again rules are that restrict competitors.
I don't understand the trials structure. There's east coast trials but they don't count? What's the point in that? I thought the other was called west coast trials but now you're calling them north american trials, what's the deal? Seems like a different name for the events that don't count for anything except reputation makes more sense than using trials for everything. Trials says a meaningful step on a tournament structure to me. Calling them something that means practice or something like that would be less confusing. Also, use a sunken pit thing like karate combat, that is soooooo much better than having fighters go into the crowd, that's stupid.
BJJ definitely needs a better standup game. I wrestled in high school and had my first BJJ tourney yesterday. Takedowns were way easier than I expected. Everyone is basically standing straight up and have zero idea about setups. Hopefully as the sport evolves the stand up game will get a lot more attention.
@@jamesSmith-fl5wvJudo looks amazing. I can’t wait to have the time to train it. My perfect blend of grappling in my mind is wrestling for explosiveness and takedowns, judo for throws and BJJ for the ground game. All 3 of these grappling forms play so well together. For self defense I would add Muay Thai and I think that would be like the ultimate combination of disciplines.
In the standup game absolutely. Once things hit the ground though a pure wrestler would not last long. Take this from a wrestler who is now doing BJJ. haha. I can take people down very easily but it's a whole other game once you're on the ground.
@@ericcraig3875 that is true but there is big difference in age and experience. Mo Black is almost 30 years old and Helena only 17 . How it could be that young girl can even pair against much older and experienced grappler known as very good in wrestling.
Keep on mind, BJJ isnt a spectator friendly sport. The ruleset is also not very sport-like. Weird to say but it should be called a sport, or martial art. The pin position you saw, where Crevar was on top hold/pin/controling Black for time trying to advance with a slow conservative grinding style, would never be accepted in other regulated martial arts. Not sure the BJJ world is looking to improve that stalling (like, kind of) aspect of the art. It seems to favor some types of grapplers, so it might stay that way for much longer. But, if more and more young grapplers follow the Ruotolo bother's path, you might have grappling to become a spectator's sport for a new era.
