What a brilliant human! He reminds me of my father except my dad is Muslim. I pray the day will come when my earthly father will accept Jesus and one day become my brother in Christ in heaven. 🙏🏽
@@rcola6235 - Overrated? God gave Mr. Zacharias the brain of a genius to explain to those of us who are not quite so bright the intricacies of His Word. Most humble genius I have ever listened to. I don't know what you mean by overrated - nor by whom.
Amen, As long as I get to be with The Holy ONE, I’ll accept anything from The LORD; It’s ridiculous to even ask for anything else when you are living with The Living GOD; It’s either that or hell, need we ask for more? If one is not content with just The Son and The Father, then we don’t even deserve to be in His Presence. Don’t be deceived my brethrens in Christ, all these demons here trying to sow discord are just distracting us from worshipping our GOD; ignore them, they are lost, they know who GOD is, they are evil spirits and in defiance and rebellious against The Truth. They are deaf, refusing to hear, even though it has been given to them.
God made Moses a God, Jesus said to the Jews "is it not written in your law I said ye are gods" I'm accused of being a cultist because i believe in the Bible without all the baggage of thousands of years of man's interpretation
@@rickhuntling7338 in fact you didnt even read the text before posting your interpretation, here is the scriptures: "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" (John 10:33-36)
Hi Lee Deville. God has arms? Does that mean you believe He has a body? You are more than half way to being a Latter-day Saint and you will be welcomed with open and loving arms. :-) Jim.
@@GARYWERSLEY sorry but belief in Jesus changed that. There are all kinds of things in the Old Testament that have been "done away" with in a sense though our Lord.
@@briancaldwell283 ..Brain.. it is clear that Jesus adopted earlier Essene/Pharisiac beliefs.. belief in afterlife.. a common belief in those times.. Greeks, as well as Essene/Pharisee's, believed in afterlife.. but some Jews did not believe in afterlife, because it was not mentioned in the Books Of Moses.. they said, that belief in afterlife, was Delusion.. I am with those Jews...
But that doesn't make Jesus god.but his father the God, and also you should consider what he said when he departed, he said I have many things to say unto you but you cannot bear them now but when the Spirit of truth comes he will guide into all truth and he will speak what he hears. So this is nothing to do with Holy Spirit, this is talking about a man because Jesus said I will ask my father to send another comforter, so consider himself as a comforter. In fact, the verse that you quoted tells you that you need to follow the comforter who is going to guide you to everything.
@@truthprevails4163 John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one. Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Sunlan Foo Even those statements do no make him god. Even I can claim everything he claims because were were in the knowledge of God as Jesus or Abraham or even Adam, even the last one is in the knowledge too. Btw I can easily refute all these claims.
@@truthprevails4163 #1. why did you delete your comment? was it because I disproved your position so badly? #2. biblical scholars agree that the "comforter" is the holy spirit. #3. Jesus claims to be God many times. he describes himself as 3 beings in one person. it makes no sense to our human brains but that is how he describes himself in the bible.
I love Ravi!!! I also love being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints! Jesus Christ is my example, my light, and my Redeemer. I love the opportunity I have to “brainwash” my children with a moral framework built upon Christ. So much love and unity is lost in the bickering amongst us. We are surly living in exciting times. It would do us all good to unite and not divide. I pray for Ravi’s message and teachings of Christ to touch the world, the same as I pray for President Russell M Nelson’s ministry. Let us not trip on the stones of persecution. Love as He loved. 🙏🏻💗
While I applaud the sentiment, you must be born again. A general belief in Christ is not enough. It must be the Christ of the Bible - not an extraterrestrial from the planet Kolob.
@@mcsegeek1 Concurrence, but who are you to say whether another person was, or was not, born again? Who is Ravi to do that? That is why he stops short of simply saying that Mormons (all of them!) are, or are not, Christians. That's not for him to say, that's not for you to say, it isn't even for me to say.
I had Mormons come to my door, once. The lead young man got nervous when I spoke of the eternity of Christ and cited Colossians. The younger one was eager to hear more, but the lead man took him away. They have never been back.
We had the same thing happen, and we think the older guy had an demon inside of him. We met with them 3 times, as my dad is an sbc pastor, and the third time he went into a trance, and my dad stopped him, and they left. I haven't seen them again, but I still pray for them. I'm going to be a church planter in Utah when I grow up so I can help them.
It’s the same with Jehovah witnesses.. If they proclaim to be Christians just ask them to join in prayer.. they will also flee Ravi Samaria is a wonderful preacher in the same line with Derek Prince ❤️
His daughter announced yesterday that Ravi was sent home for hospice care and all treatments for the tumor has ceased as the cancer has spread. God can do anything but Ravi’s doctors say they can do nothing more for him. We should keep our dear brother Ravi in our prayers. If the Lord is calling him home then Ravi has been the Lord’s faithful servant and is Heaven bound to eternal rewards in the presence of his King Jesus! God bless Ravi and his family.
I plead the precious blood of Jesus for the healing and revival of Ravi Zacharias. May our Lord heal this child of God, so that he can continue his ministry more powerful. Amen.
I am thankful to God because I can understand him easily.. because of him my life changed.. I have faith in you Jesus, I can't continue my life without Your presence Lord! 😭😭😭😭
I mean he has agape love. Pray for all denomination to get the light right no to condemn. We are children of the kingdom not the hell security guards we stop being accusers of brothers
Your gift was extremely remarkable. God gave you the mind to reach millions for Christ and change the hearts of mankind. I've read many your booked, you Wil truly be missed.
By the technical definition, Latter-Day Saints are Protestant Christians. To the vast majority of Christians, we are not Christian because we differ on our views of what they call the Trinity (which was coined by the Catholic Church that they also claim are not Christians) and scripture (all though they also ignorantly clasp to the Bible as the only possible book of scripture, which is also a concoction of texts from the Catholic Church that they like to rip on so much) I am past caring what “Christians” or anyone else think of us. If they claim we are not Christians, it does not affect the relationship that we have with deity. They are the reason we were driven out of the states that we tried to peacefully dwell in and they are the reason that my great-grandfather died in the snow crossing the plains. They are the reason Joseph and Hyrum were murdered in cold blood. If the world doesn’t want to consider us “christian” than so be it.
What I appreciate about Ravi is that the Spirit has blessed him with the capacity to speak the truth in love. He answered the question: they are a cult, but the word cult should be used carefully in public dialogue because of the baggage it carries outside of the technical, theological usage. The Gospel is naturally offensive enough--we need not go out of our way to alienate people beyond speaking the truth of Christ. My working definition of true Christianity is this: do they affirm the Nicene Creed and are their doctrines coherent with that creed? If so, they are Christians (if they truly believe it). Doctrines, whether correct or incorrect, do not provide nor void salvation through the grace and work of Christ. Doctrine informs our walk and view of God, but thanks be to Him that we do not need to possess perfect understanding to be saved--for who then could be?
I also very much value Ravi's way of diplomatic speaking. He speaks with love and compassion. He is a big role model for me. But I have to ask you something. Sorry to be so direct, but what is your personal opinion of Mormons. Are they Christians? I mean the core teachings of the book of Mormon seem to violate the word of God. Humans becoming Gods, God having a wife, Jesus being the brother of Satan, etc. . I agree that the nicene creed gathers the essential belief of us Christians, but it is also written that we should not add, remove or alter anything of God's word. Adding a whole book (the book of Mormons) which is also in total contrast to what we learn in the bible, is a "deal breaker" for me. I cannot see them as Christians or brothers/sisters in Christ. They are spreading false teachings, a false gospel. And we as Christians need to be aware that we don't legitimise every teaching, just because they use the same book as we do.
I think you confused me with someone else. Even still, your comments regarding anime and other cultural productions would imply that nearly everything produced from the minds of man is Satanism. You really need to evaluate the Biblical justification for your claims, because frankly there aren't any. It demonstrates a lack of critical analysis and bandwagon mentality that have become so tragically stereotypical of American Christians. The study of all things can produce understanding about God and the human condition if done so with a mind of discernment rooted in Biblical truth.
It is a very far stretch to equivocate engaging cultural and artistic production with idol worship. Further, it is a highly paradoxical perspective to have. In order to judge or discern such a thing, you must watch it to evaluate it. By your logic, to watch it is equivalent to idol worship. But then how do you know enough about it to judge it so, unless you watched it? Or are you taking some other idolatrous person's evaluation, who has watched it? But then why would you trust such a sinner's evaluation? If you aren't trusting someone else's word for it, and you haven't watched it yourself, then what is the basis for your judgment? Unless you have watched it, but then how would you justify doing such a thing if it is sinful just to watch? Do you observe the problem here? You are equating engaging with sinning, and moreover--in this case--you are equating it to idol worship. Frankly, I do not see any Biblical justification for this rationale of yours. Mentalities such as these smell strongly of the nit-picking Jews, who were completely missing the point of Christ in His own time. Within in context, I believe 1 Corinthians 10 applies more appropriately to this matter: "All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify." You could argue that watching these shows may not be advantageous or beneficial to the Christian, but then you would have to have watched some to have the basis for that claim. Personally, I have found that anime, like all forms of entertainment, reflects a great deal of information regarding the human condition and the human perceptions and interpretations of that condition. If you observe something with a discerning mind, all things can be valuable. The study of other religions, for example, is highly profitable to the believer in providing understand of others in need of salvation and how they think. All religions have some elements of truth, even though accompanied by incorrect understandings. Dividing between those is critical to the apologetic process. As Ravi did here: he found the common ground, and in doing so pointed people to the saving grace of Christ. Anime, in particular, if especially advantageous as an artistic outlet because it provides a great deal of insight into the Japanese worldview--a country desperately in need of Evangelism. As for Dragon Ball Z, it neither projects nor supports any specific religious worldview. It borrows elements from a number of them, including Christianity. The matter of God is not a direct or even remote matter engaged by that story, but rather the human struggle against evil and the temptations of power. Major recurring themes include evil, grace, repentance, redemption, and sacrifice--especially for villainous characters. Does it provide the solution? No, but it gets people thinking about the problems.
+Christian Dove Thanks for your comments. I just didn't want to engage in an argument over whether Christians should enjoy anything in this life. I just don't want to spend my energy on debating with someone on the internet, especially if that someone seems to think that we can't enjoy any kind of entertainment besides Jesus movies. I feel like you have to talk about this stuff in person. We would just throw arguments in the infamous RU-vid comment section, accusing each other of not being "proper" Christians. But I am already here so here are my two cents. Kodili seems to know a good deal about anime, at least about Dragonball Z, otherwise I don't expect anyone to recognise my profile picture. I conclude that Kodili seems to have some kind of grudge against the Japanese anime entertainment industry in particular. Did you know that there are even animes which have nothing to do with supernatural things? And do you also judge books like Lord of the Rings or Narnia which both were written by outspoken Christians and contain a great deal of supernatural elements and Northern mythology? I feel like anime often is often treated with a double standard because it is a "foreign" kind of entertainment for many people outside of Asia. Batman, Superman, Spiderman? No problem, let's discuss the newest comics. Son Goku, Naruto, Luffy? Nah, that's worship of satan, you best confess. There are a lot of things in life which can easily become idols, like money, sex, sports, books - anything that becomes more important in your life than God. Is anime (or any other idol) more important in my life than God? That is the real question and the one that we should ask ourselves. Let me be clear. I don't have a problem with people disliking animes. I don't even dislike it, if someone would tell me why he thinks that it is not good for Christians. But I really dislike it, if people generalise something and give it the stamp of "satanic worship". Every Christian has to decide for themselve what may be good for his faith or not. I can totally understand it, if some Christians don't want to watch anime because they don't want to risk doing anything "dangerous" to their faith. I am cool with that. But I am just not cool with being told that one's personal opinion is the one absolute, righteous Christian way. Btw, I have my own limits, too. I don't want to watch the TV series Supernatural or Game of Thrones because the first one shows a trivialised version of anything (+ a lot of satanic rituals in my opinion). And the latter simply shows too much nudity and explicitly sexual content for me. So am I telling Christians that they can't watch those shows? No. Why? Because they can decide for themselves what is good for their faith and what is not. Am I against giving Christian's advice about what may be good for their faith and what is not? No. But it is about how you talk about it.
I concur. The problem is that few Christians seem to possess the sufficiently developed rationalizing capacities to objectively evaluate and present their convictions. I get particularly frustrated when that unfounded drivel is propelled in a haughty way. At the end of the day, nearly all cultural productions could be grouped within the matter of meat sacrificed to idols. You need to act according to your conscience, but you must also realize that your conscience and the conscience of others may not be equally disturbed by the same things due to your backgrounds and spiritual development.
He is not really gone,because the spirit/soul and essence of a person never dies,because God Lives so do we (That is what he read in the word that touched him to believe) and also because we remember him he lives on in us as well,we are briefly parted in this physical world and that is the only thing that saddens us but we are not without hope and faith that life does go on after our mortal body stops functioning.
D.L. Moody in 1899. Ravi Zacharias in 2004. 4:40 "It is critical that we understand Jesus and that we are complete in him.When you add or subtract you can give yourself whatever name that you want, but you are impugning the completed work of Christ on the cross."
@@charlesbrown1245 true...except Ravi is talking about Christianity 101A....its the core of all New Testament teaching with tons of scriptural support...not some obscure passage in which scholars cant make up their minds. :)
Interpreting Scripture My question would be when did scholar/apologists became authorized spokesmen for God? Aren’t they just students building on each other’s opinion going back to Augustine, Anselm, Aquinas and others. The Bible is a source of spiritual information. It isn’t a source of authority. Those who can’t demonstrate that they were actually called by God do use it as such though.
@@charlesbrown1245 for us Christians Scripture is our ultimate authority on all matters of faith and practice So in regard to Ravi...he is simply recognizing what Scripture teaches and he also applies logical argumentation in his speeches.
@@interpretingscripture8068 We Believe that Jesus is the Word and the authority to speak for him comes from him as he chose his ancient prophets and apostles to do so. The scriptures indicate this pattern. Christian apologists conclude that active revelation ended with Jesus. Paul spoke well after Jesus died as did the other apostles. The authority was lost when they were killed. Men took over the church and changed it according to their uninspired philosophies. Mainstream Christian scholars claim the scripture as their authority as I previously said. Sola scriptura is a philosophical apologetic declaration, not a scriptural mandate. The Bible wasn't put together to be a handbook to whoever thought they could convince others that it gave them the authority to speak for God. The reformation was an attempt to adapt the scriptures with greater purity than the Catholics. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a restoration of authority, the apostleship, and ordinances of the gospel to prepare the world for the second coming of Jesus Christ. The misinformation about the church has kept many people from learning what we really teach. Here is a conference message about it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Spiz138Xcog.html
Ravi Zacharias mentioned an absolute truth: the atonement of Christ is sufficient. It's the ultimately sacrifice. Any other amendment to the atonement impugnates the Lord's role and thus a believe system, rituals, practices&polacies in connection with what is being added can't be truth or even part of the truth. Let's just remember that the holy ghost testifies of all truth. Great video!
I am a Later Day Saint and I agree that the atonement is sufficient. It is the only way back and there is no act of Kindness, no deed or ritual that can buy you forgiveness of sins. The word forgiveness says it all. If it was an exchange like money for food, a ritual in exchange for an escape of justice would not be forgiveness. So if forgiveness of sin is free how do we to get it? Repentance! We are so misunderstood. Even Ravi here in this video does himself an injustice by speaking so poorly of us, implying that we are a cult when we believe to be the very Church of Jesus Christ.
What a precious gift you are,Ravi, to the body of Christ. And your heart for young people is evident. I learn so much from you, and just want to thank you, brother.
That's an over simplistic response. Surely every nation that has been on the earth has had scripture written before their existing leaders. Do you think the people in Moses' time would be expected to pay more attention to previous scripture than to Moses himself? No... God calls prophets to preach and always will.
It is always easier to believe in dead prophets than living ones. But I think one of the messages of the Bible is that the living prophet is the most important: previous scripture would not have sufficed in Noah's day...they needed Noah and the instruction for building the ark. Moses for his day. Elijah for his day. And when Jesus came most of the Jewish faith had been corrupted by religious leaders that claimed to believe in the dead prophets but rejected the living ones: John the Baptist and Jesus himself. And so it is today, that there are many denominations and beliefs clinging to a book of the writings of dead prophets but denying the possibility of living prophets...why? When that has always been God's way of working. We need living prophets today...and by prophet I mean men that have direct communication from God to communicate to us in these crazy times.
Ravi Zachariah speaks with deep intelligence, knowledge and also sensitivity yet clarity of faith. But I hate these outburst of laugh of the public in between. I am not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS, but I know many people from there. And I wish the other denominational Christians would have such a strong desire to belong to and follow Christ and such a sincerity and love of heart both towards the Savior and other people! So, people before you laugh at or about someone, go, see, and pray whatever is not your common field of spiritual expertise, and God will faithfully give you His opinion! Besides, Ravi Zachariah has received a standing ovation at Mormon Tabernacle. This shows how much humility in listening to others, openhearted and minded the members of LDS Church are. And they do this out of heart and respect for the Savior first! How much more beautiful and united the Christian Church would be if we all had this kind of attitude!
Um Maria perhaps you have never known the way that people are treated when they start asking questions about the Mormon faith...they and their family members are ostracized until they either get back in line or leave the church. If they leave, that is when the real attacks start. They (Mormons) are only loving and kind as long as their people are following blindly, not asking questions, and proselytizing. I have seen this for myself. The one thing that sets The Way apart from all other religions is that the Creator invites people to ask questions of HIM and to test all teachings to HIM. He has NOTHING to fear because HE IS the TRUTH. One thing to keep in mind, just because people act a certain way outwardly does not mean they are doing the will of Elohim, remember the Pharisees and Saducees looked like they were doing good outwardly to men, but Messiah judged them and called them white-washed tombs, which look beautiful outside but within are full of dead men's bones and all manner of corruption.
Rick Kilchenman same with other faiths. Church is hospital for sinners, not sanctuary for saints. Good and bad are found everywhere, including in the mirror.
Rick Kilchenman you’re taking individual cases and generalizing them saying this is what happens to everyone. It’s not. It’s very unfortunate that some people are treated that way. No one should be. But that is a very small minority. And honestly, it’s exactly how you would expect anyone who leaves the church to portray it. A bunch of sheep and evil leaders trying to keep everyone in line and punishing those who step out. That’s not how it is at all.
Hi. First let me say that I am impressed with Ravi Zacharias and his knowledge and perspective on the LDS church. I am very happy that he got to speak in the LDS tabernacle. It would have been nice, also, if he had explained that he was not invited to preach to the LDS members but rather he was invited to speak to a gathering of both LDS leaders plus evangelical ministers in an LDS sponsored forum. Nevertheless, please let me put into prospective what the LDS church really believes. I believe in the Book of Mormon, but in order to actually have a testimony of the book I have to have a testimony of the Prophet Joseph Smith. So I read the book, prayed fervently to Heavenly Father, and pondered. I really wanted to know if it was true. I was raised in the church and served a mission, got married in the Los Angeles temple, divorced, went inactive for many years. But I never had a burning in my heart that this was true until later in my life. I always knew it was true, just did not have the sought-after burning. But I did receive an answer to my prayers and once I got the testimony there is NOTHING that can change or sway it. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints IS the true church. Only those individuals that are truly looking for the truth will recognize it when they see it. Some or most of the people who responded to this RU-vid video negatively about the LDS church will NEVER see the truth. Why? Simply because they have hardened their hearts. I don't, nor do ANY LDS member, do anything other than praise Joseph Smith. Come to our meetings if you want to see for yourselves. We don't worship him. He is the prophet of the Restoration. Smart and non-self-righteous individuals can see this pretty clearly. Those who claim we do are really stupid or deceptive or have some agenda. They don't know anything about the LDS church or they do and it is in their best interest to say bad things about the church and Joseph Smith. We praise God the father and His Son, Jesus Christ. Simple as that. Does it matter that evangelicals refer to "mormons" as non-Christians in the media? Not really. We are Christians in the true sense. We hold the Priesthood of God, not them. We are here to live our lives the best we can and to declare the Restored Gospel to the world. Those who are really interested will see this just like Joseph Smith did. Those who have hardened hearts won't but they forfeit great rewards in this life and more importantly The Next life because of this.
fargokid71 Christians do not reject Mormonism because of a hardened heart, but because of a heart that is faithful to God and His holy word. His word, the Bible, is complete and he explicitly warns that no one is to add or subtract from it: Revelation 22:18-19, Proverbs 30:5-6, Deuteronomy 4:2. He warns against false prophets: Matthew 24:24, Galatians 1:6-9. To follow the teachings or testimony of Joseph Smith is to ignore the ultimate authority of God’s word and to place your faith in a man who came along thousands of years after the holy book was completed and falsely added to it. There is no such thing as the reformed gospel, there is only one legitimate gospel. Smith was a charlatan and false prophet. Research his sordid background in earnest and see that he deserves no praise and turn away from the LDS. There is neither truth or salvation there. It is you who are of hard heart; a heart hardened against the true word of God.
BijinXOXO I’m hoping you can help me out here. “If a heart is faithful to God and His holy word, His word, the Bible, is complete and he explicitly warns that no one is to add or subtract from it, Revelations 22:18-19, Proverbs 30:5-6, Deuteronomy 4:2” (quoted) My question is, which of these books were written last? Based on your explanation If Revelations, then yes the Mormon book is false. If Proverbs, then every book after Proverbs, including Revelations and the Mormon book is false. If Deuteronomy then everything after Deuteronomy including Proverbs, Revelations and the Mormon book is false. It’s a dilemma that everyone using these passages of scripture to suggest that God stopped speaking to His Children, warning them not to add or subtract, forget about the chronology of events. It doesn’t make sense that He would use the same passage of scripture on 3 separate occasions, undermining and nullifying everything after. Or, maybe, just maybe He was telling us not to add or subtract to Revelations, Proverbs and Deuteronomy leaving the door open for future “Revelation (conversation)” with his children. Can you help me out here?
Arthur Pokere more important is “who is God?” and “who is Jesus?”. Mormon god is one god among many who progressed to godhood through obedience. And likewise Mormons believe they can become gods, “as man is, god once was, as god is, man may become”. Isa 43-45 are key chapters to read. 43:10 says before me no god was formed neither shall there be any after me. 44:6 I am the first and the last, besides me there is no god. Super important. Secondly, the Mormon Jesus is the spirit offspring of Elohim and one of his goddess wives, and Lucifer is his brother. The biblical Jesus is God the Son who was in the beginning and created all things including Lucifer. Read John 1:1-3,14, Col 1:16-17, Heb 1. These are the KEY issues to focus on. In conclusion, LDS believe in a Jesus that cannot save, there is hope only in the biblical Jesus. Hope that helps. God bless.
@@spilch980 There is no doctrinal evidence in the LDS faith that states God has more than one wife. Members of the LDS faith do believe in a Jesus that saves. Yes we believe in eternal progression, but guess what? There are prophets in the bible that do too. The key issues to focus on are our similarities not our differences. We both believe that Jesus saves through grace. We both believe that Christ died for our sins, and that his grace is sufficient to save us through his infinite atonement. Hope that helps.
Speaking as a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (a Mormon) - no real problems with anything RZ said. Very thoughtful individual. I would say that we need, for purposes of discussion, to define what the "sufficiency of Christ" means with respect to revealed religion.
...terminology seems to be a hinge point with those who claim exclusivity when it comes to following Christ and his teachings. These 'sound bites' galvanise those who need to find solace in an embedded acceptance of a lived Christian reality. Resorting to an historical perspective to claim that anything other than the accepted pathway to following Christ, merits culthood, demeans the message that essential Chritianity implies. The essential message is that the invitation to Come into Christ, will always be valid. Those who place limitations on such an invitation, will always find solace in justifying their claim by resorting to an ethos that just will not hold water under sound theological research.
Yeah, he's just another religitard, another conman, people believe in what they want to believe in, then convince others they are right,....its all bullshit and jargon.
U r a true man of God ready to face anything for Jesys. No compromise and u r so talented wth trye knowledge of te Holy spirit.God bless. From hyderabad india.
I’ve seen similar comments from you before. Are you going around on Ravi’s videos just to discredit him and start arguments? Just curious because it seems odd to find you watching videos of one whom you to believe is a liar..
I started reading the comment section but I had to stop. So many negative comments and we're supposed to be followers of God? Shame on all of you people may God bless us all with the holy Spirit in Jesus name Amen
Give examples of negative comments..... I only read comments that correlated to the true words of the Holy Bible. (I didn't read all the comments). The Mormon Church is a pagan religion started by a false prophet, Joseph Smith. SHALOM
@PushandillPushback I think it's vital to know and understand that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and has more power and authority than whatever false prophet(s) you put your trust in. I believe In Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and I believe they gave Joseph the power to reinstate the gospel upon the Earth in these latter days.
@PushandillPushback cool story bro. I'm gonna keep believing what I know and follow the teachings of what I have been taught and see where that gets me
The main Church service is called Sacrament Meeting dedicated to Jesus Christ and is dedicated to partaking the Sacrament dedicated to him and which we make a covenant to morally and spiritually take upon us His Name. He is my Lord and my Savior and I am grateful for his grace and mercy. I am a Christian.
I am too. I was baptised Aug 30 1980. I am now a Pentecostal word of faith believer, but my roots for my Mormon life are strong and deep. I actually call myself a Pentecostal Mormon or a mormon Pentecostal depending on whether I am being quiet and contemplative or hooting it up in praise and worship. Either way I am a Christian.
@@Stevenson1776 Did you ever get past grade 1? Belokonev0527 3 hours ago @Sue Kennedy First what? Second is so what? Him telling his brothers girlfriend is not necessarily bad as she could have her life possibly in danger.
@@Stevenson1776 You need to go to community college and take a technical writing course. Belokonev0527 Belokonev0527 10 hours ago @Sue Kennedy Is that what you really have a problem with, my spelling? I'm not writing an essay for college.
A morally flawed man as are many of us, but spiritually he was always accurate and true. As an ex-mormon, I appreciate that he went into the lion's den.
Very wise man of God, I salute the Spirit of God in you. Such people are not highly recognized in our time.. But God does, I don't believe defending my christian faith but you are born for this purpose. Wish one day I will sit with you on same table...
I watched the video!, And it was awesome. Full of love, and truth! Yes lam a member, and my heart belongs to Jesus Christ and yes lam saved! As lve said before, love is the key, let's try it! ♥🗝🙏 Moira From England.
Read Psalms 119:9-12, James 4:7-8, and Galatians 5:16 live by it. When you get that feeling, run to God: read these verses, study them, pray about them, and pray to God wholeheartedly, asking for deliverance. Really, you need to have a deeper relationship with God, when God is speaking to you and you're studying His word, it strengthens you and makes it easier and easier to say no to your flesh. We can't fit this battle with our own strength, we have to depend on God.
I think it is important to understand where someone is coming from. Understand what they believe, why they believe, and most importantly, how those beliefs shape their actions. When I look at the actions of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, I see the teachings of Christ--in action.
As a member of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter day saints (Mormon) I appreciate this man and I believe he has a lot of good things to say and I am glad he is in the world performing his ministry. He mentions not "adding or taking away from Christ" less you deviate and enter a "cult". It is critical to note that Mormons believe the same thing. The thing he left out was we do not believe we are adding or taking away from the teachings of Christ, we believe some of His teachings/truths were taken away over the centuries and they are now RESTORED. Not added to, nor taken away from. TO BE EXTRA CLEAR, you may not agree that other current Christian Denominations are missing some of Christs teachings and therefore you might view the Book of Mormon as "adding" to Christs teachings. However, it should be noted, the reason there are so many Christian Denominations is for THIS VERY REASON, they do not all agree! They interpret the same bible differently and claim exclusive truths just like The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does. With that said, Mormons do NOT believe other Christian denominations are "unchristian" or in "cults". interestingly, if we applied the same reasons Ravi used to label Mormons, we would have to come away with the same labels for other denominations. Sadly, being attacked for our beliefs should be something to unite those who are simply doing their best to follow Jesus, instead some prefer to only focus on differences and shout they are more Christian than other Christians. I can only speak for myself, but it seems we should focus on our commonalities more than differences and the world would be a much better place and what is more Christian that that?
Back in the 70's when I joined, Mormons refused to call themselves a denomination. They would be horrified if you called them one. They prided themselves in being separate from mainstream Christianity, and denigrated other churches all the time. I'm glad their attitude has changed, but considering their old attitudes they shouldn't be surprised when other churches refuse to accept them as Christians. They themselves began the separation.
@@Cuinn837 I've been a member since 1981 and I have never been horrified of being called a Christian Denomination. As you saw in my post above, we have different interpretations that take us away from some mainstream beliefs such as believing God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit are not the same person, but three distinct individuals, and while I would not say we "pride" ourselves on this distinction, as that can be a pejorative term, we do hold that belief with conviction. The same as we hold the belief that Christ is the savior of all mankind. As for "separation" I am not a Christian history buff, but I am pretty sure the many protestant churches that were around well before the Mormon church started many separations (and that is fine!) its called liberty and freedom of religion. Let men worship as they see fit. I am certain that some individuals denigrate other churches just as other individuals of other churches denigrate us. However, this line of thinking will never get us anywhere in finding common ground to be united against much more important challenges don't you think?
@@AmyDrewM I'm just remembering the way things were where I was in the 70's. My husband joined in the 60's and he said it was even worse then. In the late 70's I did notice a backing away from attacking the Catholic church, but old habits die hard among the populace. Gradually they became more open to the Protestant churches. At some point they started calling themselves a denomination like the rest of Christianity.
*God bless Mr. Ravi. I find it interesting that Jehovah's Witnesses claim they are modeled after 1st century Christians yet they are told to NEVER, ever, go inside another church. As a matter of fact, Ravi, would not be welcomed in any JW Hall (church) either. Yet, the Apostle Paul did that same exact thing as written in Acts **17:16**-34. Jehovah's Witness leaders know full well that their false doctrines cannot stand up to scrutiny by a true Christian person that has God's spirit and blessing. I truly wonder how many JW's would walk out after hearing the True message of the Gospel of Christ.*
Jehovah's Witnesses Testimonies Jehovah = Jove = Jupiter ... “by Jove, I think you’ve got it !” Oh and let’s not talk about Jupiter = Zeus = Thor + so many more names of the deity around the world.
Thank you dear bro Ravi for your courage and consistency in preching the Diety and supremacy of the lord Jesus Christ...and that we believers are complete in Christ lacking nothing.COL. 2: 8/9/10
Amen! I can think of so many people who will crucify you for speaking in a place like that! But praise be to God that you listened to Him and not to people’s opinions. God be the glory! God bless!😊🙏🏻
Having just come out of the cult of Mormonism after 43 years, I can vouch for the truthfulness of Ravi's words. The Mormons are masters of mind control. They exalt their first "prophet" to the status of deity, and practically worship their living "prophet" and "apostles". Jesus takes second fiddle to them. Oh, they use His name on their cult like a trademark, but they believe their works save them, in addition to the atonement of Christ. They teach a false gospel, a different gospel than the original.
Glad you found the truth so did I after 22 years of being raised in the Mormon faith my yahweh opened my eyes to the truth and saved me through my then boyfriend now husband. How good is god ❤️
mind control? I am a convert since 1973, I know what cognitive dissonance is and what mind control is, and I also know what my mind is able to accept as truth. Practically worship is not worshipping. J. Smiths life was seldom his own. Everyone will be resurrected, but not all will be exalted. If you understand His gospel and read the scriptures enough you'll realize that you have to be proactive to be considered his disciple, and you also have to be baptized. And without priesthood, those outward ordinances like baptism don't have any efficacy , no matter how revered the person is that baptized you, as men can't take on being an apostle or prophet on their own. The restored gospel of Christ is so powerful and answers so many questions and that book of mormon has the everylasting gospel of J. Christ in it, and that book is what forced me to deal with me knowing I should be baptized and from then on, my mind had knowledge poured into constantly as I read scriptures. I had a hard time as I had to find new friends after I turned to His gospel, but after a couple years I felt so comfortable. It's the bom that reinforces everything, so that the problems that rise up like the white salamander or the problem with blacks and priesthood is not problematic for me. I watch millenials leaving and realize for many of them their testimony is on hold, these that don't have their membership dropped obviously are not positive. And I want to say there are many intellectual that know much about jewish culture and they know that book had to come from somewhere, but it's much to sophisticated to have come forth from not only Smiths mind, but anyones mind. When you get away from prayer and attending meetings for a bit and listen to others, in this day, you can easily be led, and then say, they had control of my mind, I finally got out.
I came out of the satanic religions Baptists and Pentacostals. They are totally infused with pornography, lies, fortune telling, brainwashing, mind control, blasphemy, etc.
It is amazing how you guys claim you are Christian but lie and totally make up things about the mormon church, and even fan and perpetuate a lie what a despicable and irresponsible person you are
Matthew 5:11-12 Blessed are you when people insult you persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad because great is your reward in heaven for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
@@marbet8 I guess just think who is more persecuted? Ravi or Mormons? Food for thought. The true church of Christ in antiquity was never "popular". If the world sees a church or a church leader as popular, cool, charismatic, and widely accepted... you may want to rethink who's church that might be.
Brilliantly expressed. Absolutely, he should have gone where he was asked to go. Wow... this is one of the most refreshing videos I have seen in a long long time.
He bores me, way too many words, just get to the freaking point already! Did Jesus mince words? Did John the Baptist mince words? They got to the point quickly and with power, this guy has no power, at all.
Until several weeks ago, Mr. Zacharias’ website bio at RZIM.org stated, “Dr. Zacharias has been a visiting scholar at Cambridge University.” Mr. Zacharias is frequently introduced at his university appearances as having been “a visiting scholar at Cambridge University.” The President of Liberty University said “Ravi was a visiting scholar at Cambridge university” when awarding him an honorary doctorate recently. The claim also appears on the jacket of his book, The Real Face of Atheism and a few of his books claim in the back cover that he was educated at Cambridge University. A Google search of [“Ravi Zacharias” “visiting scholar at Cambridge University”] reveals thousands of pages in which the claim is repeated. The claim is false as mentioned earlier, and Mr. Zacharias withdrew it shortly after we asked him for a response to our concern that he has misrepresented his Cambridge visiting scholar status. How do we know it is false? We contacted the University of Cambridge Office of External Affairs and Communications and asked whether Mr. Ravi Zacharias was ever a visiting scholar at their university. We were told in writing the following: 1. “We can confirm that Mr. Zacharias spent a sabbatical term at Ridley Hall in the city of Cambridge.” He was there for a mere 12 weeks (1 term). 2. “Ridley Hall is independent from Cambridge University and trains people for effective work in the Church of England”. 3. “Attending lectures and classes at the University of Cambridge whilst on sabbatical at Ridley Hall would not confer University of Cambridge Visiting Scholar status on a student. Ridley Hall is not and has never been a constituent part of the University of Cambridge and has different criteria for granting Visiting Scholar status.” 4. “All student and visitors to Ridley Hall know the difference between Ridley hall and Cambridge University and to equate this is plainly false.” Insofar as it is exclusively the province of the University of Cambridge to decide who constitutes a “visiting scholar” at their institution, we believe it to be established beyond dispute that Mr. Zacharias’ visiting scholar claim is false. We sincerely ask that you contact Cambridge University and Ridley Hall independently and verify this information.
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@@Dr-Curious None of that disproves what he said in the video. Yours is the typical shoot the messenger tactic of ideological bankrupt Atheists. Considering the far greater harm that the lie of Atheism has caused, over a hundred million deaths, this oversight of Mr. Zacharias can be excused.
RaidrWolf "None of that disproves what he said in the video." Of course not. The fact you or anyone else cannot personally explain why his claims are sound is what would disprove him. The fact is though we don't need to in this case. He's openly making excuses for a cult in public. This speech condemns him without anyone elses intervention. "Yours is the typical shoot the messenger tactic of ideological bankrupt Atheists." Oh, the irony. You deserve an award. Yet, all who disagree with you are tainted by Satan. Hypocrisy and the ad-hominem is the entire basis of religion and look how you don't even recognise it. You LIVE to point fingers and accuse... That's why so many who see you all online snivling are LEAVING. That's why I and many friends have left. "Considering the far greater harm that the lie of Atheism has caused, over a hundred million deaths, this oversight of Mr. Zacharias can be excused." More blatant cowardly dishonesty. How apt. Atheists have been on earth for the last 200 years at the most. If the church had mechanisation and automatic weapons, the Crusades and holy wars, Torquemada, Cathar genocides and ISIS would have accounted for far more murder. Your Bible even tells people to raze cities, kill women and children and take survivers for slaves and rape. How piss weak your accusations are when you are exposed. And let's go with your equivalence claim shall we? I suppose you are ok with being considered a child raping fraudster like so many of your pastors and church leaders are, yes? And those murdering scum (don't count the Lutheran German Reich) were degenerate people fueled by a belief in aggressively propagating communism for power. As all believers are degenerates, this is nothing to do with agnostic atheism as used by the growing group of people disgusted by hypocrisy and degeneracy of obedient and unthinking cult mentality. So no, it doesn't excuse Ravi when you use cowardly ad-hominem insinuations as a distractive ploy. And those were only ONE of the set of allegations he was investigated for.
@ I can only see a short notification of your post. My post was a RESPONSE to your fingerpointing, laying out the reasons it is disgustingly hypocritical. What an id!ot. Religion IS the act of pointing at others and declaring the as inferior using some magical excuse involving invisible beings who "know better than we". Cant you think at ALL for yourself? My FIRST POST was ONLY a pasting of the TEXT from the statements by people who have investigated ONE claim by Ravi about his education. There are more. Ravi LIED about his education and qualifications. YOU are trying to condone LYING in public and are using your cowardly association fallacy to do it. Pedophile fraudster.
@UCJMqh-LAHpFmalyzBV5Q7Mw "nd my response to you was to your finger pointing." NOPE. Your response (and the reason you say "you" instead of what I posted...) Was to a DOCUMENT written by people investigating a claim by Ravi. Ravi is using his credentials to support his reasoning. I didn't "fingerprint" by making false or subjective ad-hominems, I SIMPLY posted that one of his supporting devices WAS DISHONEST. "Is it ok if you finger point but not if I do? Your accusation of him lying doesn't disprove what he said. It doesn't even address what he said." It wasn't;t meant to for the SECOND time. It was meant to expose his LYING about his credentials. I'll tell youTHIS for the second time: He is defending a CULT. "Because you think he was lying about his credentials doesn't make what he said in the video is a lie." HILARIOUS. AGAIN: Point out where that was claimed. You are making ANOTHER false claim. As I ALREADY said, your INABILITY to support nor defend anything is all we need to see. Why don't you start thinking about what you are talking about? "You obviously don't know what shooting the messenger is or else you would know that that is all your complaint amounts to and doesn't disprove what he said in the video." You have never studied formal logic. Here's tip. Start doing so before you try to lecture. " And neither does your not liking what he said mean his claims are "unsound". That's your baseless opinion. All it amounts to is name-calling when you claim it's "unsound"." Publishing the findings of an investigation isn't name calling. Pretty obvious to someone with a brain. But here's an insult for you: You're a total jackass. "And my response to you is about contrasting supposed credentials lies to Atheist caused hundreds of millions dead, and those not even caused by war, but pure, brutal government totalitarianism against it's own unarmed, defenseless citizens. So you, according to your accusing me of approving of lying, are condoning the massacring of hundreds of millions of people. You need to get your priorities objectivity straight." Don't forget f*ckwit. You are an atheist to a few thousand gods too. Hahaha. OK pedophile fraudster, and genocide condoning, slave beating, murdering, owning advocate who wants everyone purged and mudred to get the world to himself. We get you're an intellectual coward who needs to use magic o feel better about his failures. Apparently, the word was total goodness before "Christian" atheism started. Right? (lets ignore the genocides in case your feelings get hurt) Hahah. Have a listen to yourself. You're unable to learn, terrified of thinking... You're mostly snivelling cowards, crying about how important and good you are, who cant take any back.
He's a good speaker and seems like a wonderful man. It seems to take him forever to answer a simple question though. He tends to go off topic then he attempts to bring it all back. I'd listen to him more if he could make his point quicker and speak simple.
Rob, l couldn't agree with you more. He most times comes up with responses ( use of analogies...) than hard core, solid Replies. Same stance on his "response" to a question on whether Roman Catholicism is a cult. Watch the video. I wasted time waiting for the Reply.
@@thiskiwigal ..Rosalee.. you preach a religion of division, a religion of hatred.. a clear demonstration that there really is little or no difference between Islam and Christianity.. Jesus preached the very same message as Muhammad, believe or suffer an eternity of torment in Hellfire! what nonsense.. where is the LOVE?
Mr. Ravi Zacharias! I sure do miss you, sir. It is a complete blessing that I get to continue to glean from you through RU-vid and your books. I got to hear and see you in person twice. What a Blessing! I wish I had got to shake your hand. I'll have to wait until I see you in heaven. :)
Southwest ORV ....but to receive exaltation you need the temple ordinances, right? That’s what they mean by LDS doctrine teaches Jesus is not all you need.
Absent from the body present with the Lord . When we all see Jesus we will sing and shout the Victory. Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life ". No false prophets, No religion, No good works . Christ and Christ alone , he is sufficient . What a legacy you have left us Ravi , now with your Saviour and one day thanks to God's wonderful Grace to me an undeserving sinner I too will see my precious Lord in glory. Hallelujah what a Saviour !
Mormons are in no way like Jim Jones. But, CHRIST is supreme now and forever, and no human can touch his most HOLY sacrifice - to save all of OUR souls!
I’m glad that Apostles of Jesus Christ invited Ravi to speak at the Tabernacle. Some people don’t understand that the Church that Christ has re-established in the latter days is Christian. This is sad. We acknowledge Christ in every way, and in everything we do. He, the Lord, has made it clear that we are saved from sins through faith in Him. He has also made it clear that, when we repent of something, we are to go and “sin no more.” He rewards us according to our works, but redeems us according to faith. Another thing that some don’t understand, is that there is no so called “Adam God doctrine,” doctrine is established by the 12 Apostles as a group, not as individuals. This includes Brigham Young, Peter, Paul, Joseph, etc. e.g. Paul may have taught that women should remain silent in Churches, but this is not doctrine for the Church, as it wasn’t approved by the 12. Circumcision was originally a necessary part of being a Christian but the practice was ended after the Apostolic Council in Jerusalem. This is how Christ leads His Church today. Also, having additional scripture is not denying Christ’s work of salvation (or anything else). Is as if we were to say that John was adding other doctrines and denying the work of Christ because he included details in his Gospel that Matthew, writing earlier, had not. Have a great day… : )
Joseph Staker you are so ignorant it’s disgusting I hope you figure out the truth you are not to add or take away from anything of Christ! You will find out when it’s too late!! God is UN-changing his word NEVER changes, he declared the ending from the beginning Mormons will never figure this out because they do not put his word first, they were never given eyes to see and ears to hear, if you die a Mormon you are a vessel of wrath fitted for destruction!
@@artifacthunter1472 I was taught to be Christlike to everyone, regardless of if they accept or reject the Book of Mormon. I see nothing Christlike about your comment except a relentless effort in disproving the beliefs of another self-proclaimed Christian. It is not our place to say whether or not another person is Christian. If they profess to follow Christ, that should be enough. Be careful not to make ironic statements towards others
@@artifacthunter1472 you are so ignorant it’s disgusting I hope you figure out the truth you are not to add or take away from anything of Christ! You will find out when it’s too late!! God is UN-changing his word NEVER changes, he declared the ending from the beginning you (as a self-proclaimed Christian) will never figure this out because you have shown that you do not put his word first. You were never given eyes to see and ears to hear, if you die a disgusting judgmental and condescending Christian, you are a vessel of wrath fitted for destruction!
Correct. I believe this man was the biggest charlatan and deceiver of our time. Pray for his victims, wife and whoever innocent victims from this 'ministry' Extremely sad.
yea. everyone should always be checked. he said some insightful things in the past, BUT he should not be seen as perfect or the "closest person to God". No man/woman should.
Ravi Zacharias ' sad and hypocritical life is a reminder to all in ministry. It is possible to be effective and win many, yet in the end, hear the words of our Lord say, "Depart from me, l never knew you."
@@reynaldol.deguzman3039 Now now, we mustn’t Judge. The God of this universe has that authority. We were called to judge, but only, the actions of the living. God’s the judge of both the living and the dead.
@@kryptokn Jesus warned us not to judge one another. He said we should be careful because the standard we use to judge others will be the same standard used to judge us. This doesn't mean we can never say anything when someone else is sinning. If a friend is sinning, we don't have to agree with his activities because we know we're not supposed to judge anyone. That isn't what Jesus meant. Some people like to quote this verse as an excuse to do whatever they want without being corrected. Jesus was talking about the attitude of immediately condemning someone without hearing all the evidence. It's an attitude that shows no mercy to someone who has done wrong. It's an attitude that takes delight in condemning those who do not live the way you think they should.
One part of the bible that I love is how history shows it true and I try and read up on all knew discoveries. I was elated to study the dead sea scrolls found in Qumran which showed beyond any doubt that the old testament had not been corrupted as 1 Nephi chapter 13 said: "the loss of many plain and precious parts of the bible" had occurred. This is why Nephi said there was the need for "the restoration of the gospel, the coming forth of latter-day scripture". 1 Nephi 13: 26 says "after .. the twelve apostles of the Lamb, ... the formation of that great and abominable church, ... for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the lamb many parts which are plain and most precious". The notes at the bottom say Nephi made this prophesy between 600 and 592 B.C. Then 1 Nephi 13:30 says: "because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel ... Satan hath great power over them". Then, 1 Nephi 14:3 says because of this "the devil... lead away the souls of men down to hell". But the dead sea scrolls proved this prophecy is false as the scrolls found in cave 1 show that the old testament we have is not corrupted like Nephi said. And the other caves have proven this also with more books of the old testament. Jesus said he was the "word" of God and was one with the Father (not a previous humanoid) as a false prophet would say. God bless you.
I said the exact same thing, except not nearly as eloquently, to many people who worried about voting for a Mormon as our President. And then they stayed home on Election Day! So we got Obama who did all he could to destroy the moral soil of this country! God blesses us so much when we hear you speak! (ginny)
I voted for Romney and never again. He has proved to be a traitor. Glad I voted for Trump (nnot becasue I thought he was Christian) I knew Prophet Kim Clement hears from God and he prophesied in 2007 about Trump. I knew Trump loved America and knew how to get things done.
You're right. Romney would have been better than the America hating Muslim Obama, but as we have seen lately, Romney is a two faced liar who asked for Trump's endorsement and then flipped to the dRats after being elected.
“Moral soil” is the crux of Ravi Zacharias argument to form an alliance with Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Christ said, “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” This is the contradiction in the thought that Members of the Church of Jesus Christ are not Christians? That said, MR. Ravi is noble in his pursuit to include. We all should step back and love one another.
I am Christian. LDS Christian. I follow Jesus Christ. He is my Lord and Savior, He is my redeemer. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. His teachings are at the core of who I am. I will follow Him throughout my whole life. Please do not preach to people that I am not a Christian. Because that is not true. One day we will all stand before God to be judged and He will know our hearts. And He will know those that were instrumental in tearing other Christians down or lifting them up. We are all brothers and sisters of the same Heavenly Father. I continue to pray for all Christians to come together and not be at odds with each other. That is what the adversary wants. But JESUS CHRIST the Prince of Peace wants us to come together and follow Him. That’s why Ravi Zacharias was invited to speak at the LDS tabernacle. LDS Christians reach out in peace and love. We all need to pray for Unity in helping the kingdom of God to roll forth.🙏🏼
If you believe there is one and only one God not preceded by any other entities or beings not just a God that we have to do with but literally not preceded by any other beings and that that God is revealed in a triune nature of persons, Father Son and Holy Ghost then yes you are a Christian but if you believe that God the father had a father who had a father who had a father who had a father who had a father then you are a polytheist and the Jesus you claim to know it's not the Jesus of the Bible
Well said Ravi. I was raised in a Menonite church who's founder is John Holdeman started his own church in mid 1800s. His doctrine distorts the person of Jesus Christ. They claim Jesus was not a human being. They teach they are Gods only true church on earth. Lots of harsh church discipline goes on to keep control. They reach Salvation is lost by leaving.
CULT DEFINED BY A CHRISTIAN: "When a Christian uses the word Cult, it is generally defined as that which claims to be rooted in Historic Christianity but has deviated or abandoned the finished work of Christ or compromised on His person."
"Cult", as defined, is a certain deviation in itself. A pseudo-denotation contrived in the colon of fanatical christianity to debase the beliefs and creditability of nonconformists. It's a good thing current statutes keeps sanctimonious christianity at bay - opposing such views in centuries past unfortunatley cost many life and/or liberty.
So...if Christ's work is finished...why is Revelation mostly unfulfilled to this day? Semantics can be subtle. If you mean his sacrifice and resurrection is complete, then okay...but all his works are hardly finished or we would be in Celestial glory at this time. War would not exist. A lot of ambiguity in that statement. Obviously, men should not add or take away from the inspired word of God...but nowhere does in say in the Bible God cannot add or take from his own words. He is God after all. He uses prophets...many which are mentioned in the New Testament and Revelation...long after his own resurrection. How do you think we got the New Testament. Which by his inspiration...the apostles and others spoke and wrote the Word of God. For those who would use the statement incorrectly from Revelation, the same is written in Deuteronomy of the fifth book of Moses in the Old Testament. As well, it is likely some of the books of John in the New Testament were written after Revelation was written. Two prophets are mentioned to warn people with the word of God in Revelation in the last days. They have not yet spoken. Please...if you want to know the Word of God...Read it.
I was once a true believer in ""mormonism" and served a mission when I was in my lower twenties. In my later twenties I left the Mormon church as well as "christianity". As I became more educated, I grew out of miracles and fantastic claims so common with western religions and found that science is the best source of information and became a lay scientist. I had to back off, place all my cherished beliefs on a shelf and research from a withdrawn perspective and find myself. I am freer now than I have ever been and feel that I have control of my life.
The standard I live by is the God within. It is my DNA. It is reason. It is compassion for others. It is the very message of Jesus Christ. It is the message of Martin Luther King, Karl Marx, Mahatma Ghandi, Bernie Sanders, my next door neighbor, it is a baby in my arms, it is in the sunset, the view of the milky way from a mountain top.@Debbie
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I appreciate the respect which Ravi speaks of my faith. However, I believe that his basis is that the LDS church is a cult because we have deviated from historic Christianity is false. He mentions things like Adam God (a very complex doctrinal issue which can't be explained in a post here), Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price and Celestial Marriage. I'll address just the basics here. In Christ's day (and before Christ lived on earth) there were sacred ordinances performed in temples, apostles and prophets who wrote down scripture, and priesthood authority. We still have these in our church, just as Christ did in his church in his day. What Ravi calls deviation from the historic Christianity in my opinion is not deviation at all (i.e. temples, priesthood, apostles and prophets, revelation). The claim that we do not believe that Christ is enough, just because we believe in continuing revelation from God, or continuing temple ordinances is just not the case. We follow Jesus Christ every way that we know how, which includes those things which he did in his day.
Pentacostals and Baptists are as satanic as it gets. They are sexual perverts, liars, racists, mind control, blasphemous, fortune telling, false realities, brainwashing, they destroy little children, they are zillions of time more satanic than the church of satan.
@@suekennedy8917 SUE....I"m sorry you judge all people in those camps as you so vehemently enjoyed doing....may I ask ; WHO HURT YOU ?I have painfully come the TRUTH that I MUST forgive to be forgiven...I still pray for the ones who hurt me; I know we're all hurting...I find PEACE in JESUS 'S WORDS....COME into ME all who are weary and weighed down with heaviness , I WILL GIVE YOU MY REST, MY VERY OWN SHALOM...JIM.
@@jimdaniel7297 LOL! What university did you graduate from. Jim Daniel Highlighted reply Jim Daniel 1 hour ago @Sue Kennedy SUE....I"m sorry you judge all people in those camps as you so vehemently enjoyed doing....may I ask ; WHO HURT YOU ?I have painfully come the TRUTH that I MUST forgive to be forgiven...I still pray for the ones who hurt me; I know we're all hurting...I find PEACE in JESUS 'S WORDS....COME into ME all who are weary and weighed down with heaviness , I WILL GIVE YOU MY REST, MY VERY OWN SHALOM...JIM.
He spoke so much that I for got what the question was, went back and notice he didn't answer a Dame thing. I been watching this guy and so far not the worst apologist but not far from it.
The text you're referring to wasn't in the earliest manuscripts we have of the New Testament. It was added later. "Judge not lest ye be judged" really means "condemn not lest ye be condemned." We shouldn't try to render a final judgment on someone, but we are meant to be discerning and not cast pearls before swine.
@@dimains6011 the truth being where is the man she was with? The law said both are to be stoned. The accusers were in sin for this lack of both caught in the act. JESUS wrote the man's name in the sand, he knew who she was with and so did the accusers.
