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I am feel so proud from deep within that ,we Canada are restoring and preserving a deHavilland Mosquito . In my eyes the finest aircraft in the world . This Lady could do anything . Thank you .
I'm American, but to me the Mosquito is the near-equal in legendary status to the Supermarine Spitfire. Different planes, different roles - I understand. The Mosquito was secretive by nature and mission (so we didn't learn of it until years after the war), but it was absolutely lethal and feared/respected by the enemy - as it should've been. One of the most remarkable planes ever flown by some of the bravest pilots in that war.
Hermann Goering was an admirer of the Mosquito too. His Luftwaffe could not shoot them down or catch them as they flew low level bombing runs over Berlin and even tried to kill him on occasion with precision strikes.
@@charleswood7001 I absolutely love that mission, where Goerings Speech to the Nation, was postponed, because of a daylight raid, at roof-top level, by a bunch of Mosquitos, bombing and strafing targets over Berlin. Better still, in the afternoon, of the same day, another group did the same thing, only causing Goebbels to cancel his 'show' mid way through, as explosions and machinegunning drowned him out, and it could be heard over the radio throughout Germany.
The greatest piston-engine plane of all time. As a pilot I can appreciate and respect the capabilities of this marvelous aircraft. I would prefer the Mosquito over some of the jets I've flown. It never got the recognition it deserved.
My dad saw F for Freddy crash in Càlgary. When he told me how many little pieces were left after the crash and only large mass was the smoking engines I did not understand. After my dad explained it was made of wood my love affair with mossies began. What is more he said the show they performed the day before was extraordinary.
I was brought up near British Aerospace in Broughton north Wales and I remember as a kid watching the Mosquito they had there flying over the fields where we played. I remember the sound of the engines and its amazing shape and agility in the air a true master of its realm, hats off to everyone who flew these in WW2 and everyone trying to preserve these amazing aircraft nowadays.
Whoever edits these videos does a great job. Good footage, well spoken and entertaining to watch. This is my dream plane. After flying one I will die a happy man
Great plane. Heroic pilots. And a lovely little video. The archive footage was particularly impressive. By the end, I was like a kid thinking, 'I want one! I want one!'
Not to mention this plane is the precursor to stealth tech..because of it's wood construct, smooth air frame with low radar signature, no protruding rivets or surfaces...must have drove Goering crazy that a bunch of piano makers were laying waste to the Luftwaffe.
My favourite (double) event, was the Roof-Top daylight Raids by dozens of Mosquitos over Berlin. Goring was in a huge Hall, making propaganda speeches, and broadcasting on the Radio, in the morning, but, he had to abandon the broadcast, because he couldn't be heard, and the noise of bombing, could be heard all over Germany on the Radios. THEN--Goebels was given the same treatment in the afternoon, with the same result, Radio silence.
From the book Terror in The Starboard Seat by Dave McIntosh, served as a "conductor" with RCAF No. 418, flew 41 "trips". Dave noted the "Mossie" flew to Berlin 170 times. 34 of those "ops" were on consecutive nights ! The Light Night Striking Force of Mosquito's paid Berlin visit's so often the raids were known as the " Berlin Express". The routes that the crews took were called platforms one,two and three.
2:22 in the background is the Edmonton aviation Museum and "Hairless Joe" that was and is my favorite plane in the museums and i went to go see it almost every other weekend for three years with my grandmother. That was my childhood.
If I had another lifetime, there are a few aircraft which I would love to replace, scaled down for single-seat flying. Mosquito, MB5, Catalina, are 3 of them.
So many amazing wooden aircraft! It's a shame so many of them are hangar or field queens in this day and age. I've seen so many Bellanca aircraft hanging out in open hangars, or simply out in the open, that I doubt would ever fly again. I would love the chance to fly or take a ride in a mosquito, though. The next closest aircraft I will likely ever get a chance to do anything with is a DC-3 or maybe a B-25/PBJ-1. As amazing as these aircraft are, they just don't compare.
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WW-2 bombers were built to last 6 months, maybe a year in combat.most B-17s, B-24s, Lancasters never finished 25 missions.
The mosquito and the Vulcan are my favourite british aircraft. We need a mossie flying in the UK again. Sadly we will never see the beautiful Vulcan fly again )-:
Three left is not enough, we need to go and find some parts and rebuild some more ............ these planes are an important part of our modern cultural heritage
Jon H As far as I know there are 3 flying examples at the moment. Fortunately still aircraft left in Museums not flying. It is incredible that they have rebuild or restored 3 of them in recent years. All done at the same place in New Zealand. Great craftsmanship.
@@jonh9561 and C F www.warbirdrestoration.co.nz Do a RU-vid search for "Warren Denholm". He's the owner of AvSpecs and features in some informative videos.
@@MarsFKA Yo Mars, don't forget the 'Peoples Mosquito' being rebuilt and there is also another project being done in the UK, could have two Mossies' flying.
The vast majority of Mosquitoes may have been lost to us forever, but unbelievably, the prototype Mosquito still exists and is alive and well in the De Havilland museum in the UK.
Flamin' Nora ! '' Mosquito's bombed Berlin a hundred days in a row. What other aircraft could do that " ? No wonder RM Goring was green and yellow with envy.
@@Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 most of B17 raids were pin prick raid my friend the B17 bomb grops they miss so many times there had go back two more times to the same target. and before you answer with it had the Norden bomb site. there is a you tube video witch as a USAAF bomb aimer saying that your Norden bomb site was not a good as the history books have us believe
charlie Thats BULLSHIT of the BRITISH variety !!! !Mosquito as designed as a light bomber carried 4 500# bombs !!!! The B17 carried 12 !!!!!! or 6,000# !!! Only a modified mossie LATER in the war could carry a specially designed 4,000# cookie Bomb !!!! The facts of history !!! So how the Hell dumb ass did the mossie carry the bomb load of a B17 ?????? HHHHHUUUUHHHHHH ???? you dumb ass are just parroting the lies of other Limey Liars !!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 It's a very, very well known fact - read "the mighty eighth" - that B-17s usually carried a load of 4-6,000lb depending on the range of the mission. The usual load anywhere was indeed 4,000lb made up of 8 X 500lb bombs although 1,000lb bombs were sometimes carried. A load of up to 8,000lb could be carried but this restricted the aircraft's range and height capability. ALL B variants of the Mosquito were modified with the bulged bomb bay to carry 4,000lb - usually a 4,000lb "cookie". The fact is - and it is a fact - two Mosquitos with their total of four aircrew could get to Berlin and back with an 8,000lb load quicker and more safely than one B-17 with it's 11 man crew. Get over it.
@@PenzancePete B. Mk IV 283 built Night bomber using Merlin 21 or 23. Bulged bomb bay fitted to some to allow carriage of 4,000 lb bomb internally. Max speed 380 mph, max weight 21,462 lb. Twenty seven built as B.Mk IV modified for PR role BAE Systems Mosquito page www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/de-havilland-mosquito
If there ever was an ideal target that could have conclusively demonstrated the worth of the Mosquito during WW2, it was the Ploesti oil refinery complex in Romania which the USAAF attacked on a number of occasions flying B-24s and bomb-armed P-38s, usually with ridiculously heavy losses. If Mosquitos had been made available for these raids instead of the ill-suited American aircraft, the refinery complex almost certainly would have been neutralized earlier and more effectively with much fewer losses of aircraft and Allied airmen. Too bad the Mossies didn't get a chance to show what they could do in this respect.
I totally agree . She was not called the " Wooden Wonder " for nothing . That title had to be earned . The most versatile combat aircraft ever built during the Second World War . Thank you ,and Canada built a few as well . Do not remember the mark numbers though . Once again thank you .
Not only were they risking 2 guys instead of 10 but they were getting the job done with 2 engines instead of 4 so half the resources to build, feed and maintain them. Wars are expensive and this plane delivered double the bang for the buck.
The fuselage was made on a wood, then later concrete mold with the first layer of birch ply laid down then chunks of balsa spacer then the outer layer of birch ply. Then the entire length of the fuselage half was clamped with steel bands until the glue was dry. There are vids out there that show the process.
Just look at 1.25mins that is a cookie a 4,000lb bomb it's a blast weapon. The Lancaster would carry 1 plus 4,000lbs of other types mostly incendiary's to Berlin so think this through! 1 Lanc 7 men speed around 200knts up to 24,000ft the full drop would be spread over miles 2 Mossy,s 4 men speed 340knts plus and up to 40,000ft 1 cookie and 4,000lbs of others dropped together in to a much smaller area. The thing that I find amazing the first Mossy's only carried 2,000lbs 4x 500lbs bombs no guns but the Fighter bombers by 43 had 2,000lbs bomb loads with 4x 20mm cannons and 4 x 303 mgs so with out any doubt I believe this graceful aircraft was the first of a kind the "strike fighter" It must have been a shock for the German night fighters to see the bombers leave them standing or maybe come back at them with guns blazing We needed the Lancaster for jobs, with the tall boy and the grand slam, like the canals and the viaducts along with blasting the U Boat pens and thank god we had them along with the men to fly them.
As I read somewhere, and talking on tropical environments, maybe the main drawback from the mosquito was that the glue they used to stick some wooden parts from its frame (attachment of wings to fuselage, or tail section) was not designed to stand the temperatures and humidity from such environments, deriving into structural failures in some cases fatal (in flight). More than one Mosquito crashed in the Pacific theatre because of that, but this fact seems to have remained much in the shadows, probably not to stain the reputation of the Mosquito; a plane which by the way I always liked a lot.
I was not aware that the Mosquito had a delamination problem and I was not aware that the Mosquito was used in the Pacific Theater of Operation. If you are referring to the Mosquito derivative, the Hornet, it was active in India . It had a delam problem because Dehavilland departed from proven ALL WOOD technology when they began bonding metal skin to the top surface of the Hornet wing...!!!It was ok in Europe but fatal in the jungle humidity of India...!!! Shudda stayed with wood...!!! Now if they would have developed the HORNET first or along side the SKEETER... it would have been a super zoom and boom fighter... no need to dogfight... just hit and run. German ace,Eric Hartmann said he seldom engaged in “fur balls” ,he just ambushed from behind ... came down very fast, very close and exterminated his target!!!
Alan: 40 Mossies were effected in Burma none in Australia. Traced to two factories which used the wrong glue. 4 fatalities not as many as the P38 had in Europe by accidents
@@alexanderreimer387 Mate the Mossie was used by the Australians in the S W Pacific campaign. And we had no problems Jesus there were more fatalities with the P51 losing wings when they first went to Europe
I watched a few Videos and seen the comments P-38 was better or mosquito was better ..I can tell you this I love both aircraft ..However Just the idea that These were made from wood Not only to be lighter But Took less resources and Metal workers off of other planes to work on this ...Canada and England hired woodworkers Thus truly adding to the war effort producing that many more planes that otherwise would of had a longer wait time to turn out Now add all the factors of its weapons platform and version of makes Like the Mosquito "TSE TSE" with the 57mm 6 pound shell auto loading Cannon rounds (24) with 4 machine guns. Rockets and many types of bombs could be used (high ball) for water dams and bigger ships cookie bomb for mass damage fire bombs for setting alight everything that was blow apart as a bombing tactic used (see: Dresden) Night missions Photo recon, This plane could be used anywhere in the world at any temps It was so envy'ed The Germans tried to copy it and failed due to poor glue The few made planes crashed on take off
There are several praiseworthy remarks about the Mosquito, accredited to Goring, some must be invented but, one that is proven was---''Trust the British to make beautiful planes, using their Piano maker's.'' The DE Havilland factory was built north of London many years before, in Hertfordshire, close to Britains largest Beechwood forests, AND where many Furniture Maker's were. So, that material, and the skilled wood worker's, were drafted in.
@@MrDaiseymay Also, furniture manufacturers across the country were used to make parts for the Mosquito, all hush hush, even the workers didn't know what they were producing at the time. I know of this as my dad made parts for the Mosquito at a furniture factory in the Cotswolds, Broadway, Gordon Russells was the company.
@@silvergtotwinturbo9984 No doubt at all; many large factories, like the very important ''Shadow Factories'' e.g. the one at Castle Bromwhich ,Birmingham, were I grew up. As a little kid, sat in the Garden, Spitfires used to roar over our house, no doubt being Piloted by those VERY BRAVE Ladies, of the ATA. This spreading of production was even done in WW1, and, in Germany, once the Bombing destroyed well known production areas like the Rhur.
Hey colleagues, I’ve one question: was the pilot‘s seat equipped with a cushion the pilot was seating on? And did his seat have a cushion for his back? I’m building the model in 1/32, the manufacturer gives a cushion for the pilot‘s back and also for his seat to sit on. But is it correct?
It varies. The seat bottom was not padded as the pilot sat on his parachute. Some seat backs were padded, some were not. Here is the B.35 in the USAF Museum: www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/cockpits/WWII_tour/WWII-20.html The only original surviving Canadian Mossie does not have a padded seat back for the pilot.
@@harrycurrie9664 Yes it was with standard steel plate. The half bulkhead on which the crew seats were mounted was also armour plated, so the crew was covered top and bottom.
They say a Mosquito B variant could make three full trips to Berlin and back, day or night, in the same time that it would take a Short Stirling bomber (the largest and slowest of the British 4 engine bombers-which could only operate at night) to do the same trip once. As compared to the slightly faster American 4 engine bombers (i.e. B-17s or B-24s) and the more advanced British heavies (i.e. Lancasters and Halifaxes) the ratio would probably be closer to 2 or 2.5 to 1. Mosquito bombers, which had an ability to drop a relatively small number of bombs (though of respectable mass--up to 4000 lbs) extremely accurately, were unquestionably a much more efficient and cost-effective means of delivering allied bombs to German targets (with only 2 crew members, as opposed to up to 10 per aircraft and no requirement for a fighter escort), though there was truly no substitute for the scale of bombardment and large quantity of bombs only the heavy bombers could deliver to a target in WW2. As such, it isn't truly realistic to believe that a larger number of Mosquitoes could have made the heavies completely obsolete during the war. Some targets were just better tackled by the heavies than Mosquitoes (e.g. large factory complexes) and vice versa.
Bombing is essentially a logistical exercise, whereby you hope to destroy more enemy resources than you lose in the effort. When you consider that the resources required for 1 mosquito (two crew, two engines and a relatively small wooden airframe) were probably the equivalent to only a 3rd of those required for one heavy bomber, and when you add in far greater bombing accuracy, far lower loss rate and far shorter mission times, it's no contest, not even close. I'd say you could easily have replaced nearly all heavy bombers with Mossies, and done so to great advantage. You'd have done more damage, lost fewer planes and saved the lives of many poor airmen. I think the Lancaster, because of it's giant lifting capacity, would have still have had some uses for special applications, like the 22,000 lb earthquake bomb that was so effective towards the end of WW2, but the general strategic bombing campaign was a logistical and human disaster for the allies. It only seemed to succeed because the allies had far more planes and people to waste, than did the Germans. Also, because the Mosquito was so much more accurate in it's bomb delivery than the heavy bombers, which necessarily flew and dropped their bombs from a high altitude, it is certain that there would have been fewer civilian casualties on the ground. I believe to the loss ratio for the Mossie when compared to heavy bombers was 1 to 5. That means you lose 55 B17 crew, for every 2 in a Mosquito! And to what advantage? A similar bomb load delivered less accurately! Also, the B17 was an old plane, at the end of it's development potential, whereas the the Mosquito probably had a lot left to give. So the advantages of changing over to the Mosquito might have been even greater than I am suggesting. Quite simply, the allies were using the wrong equipment and the wrong strategy. The financial cost of this error would be counted in billions today, and equally, if not more to the point, thousands of men paid with their lives.
You can always spot someone who knows nothing about a subject by the language they use to support their case. All Mosquito bombers from late 1943 on could carry a 4000lb bomb as they were fitted with the bulged bomb doors - these also being retrofitted to ALL earlier aircraft then in service. The fighter version could carry 4 x 500 lbs;-) No matter how you do the math the Mosquito was the most efficient way of carrying explosive to Germany - and had the lowest loss rate (and each loss was only a small aircraft with 2 people in it). Sure from the comfort of your arm-chair wrapped in the Stars ad Stripes you might prefer to be in a B-24, but in 1943 you'd be a lot happier in a Mossie...
No the saying was the Mosquito could make two trips before the B 17 had reached the target, the Mosquito carrying about the same bomb load as the B 17, at least the Stirling could carry a reasonable bomb load like the Halifax or Lancaster, the B 17 had a lower cruising speed than the Stirling. The Mosquito would make the B 17 obsolete, the ability to carry a really heavy bomb load like the Stirling, Halifax or Lancaster meant they were useful, expecially the Lancaster which could carry the Upkeep, Tallboy or Grand Slam bombs. The targets the B 17's attacked could be attacked by the Mosquito just as effectively. or more so and with no need for a fighter excort.
The USAAf purchased 20 mosquitos in 1943 for photo reconasance over Germany . They agnolaged they had nothing that could the job as good that's why they used the Moses the p38 in comparison looked like and was like a wheelbarrow in comparison
Question - why do some Mosquitos have 5 exhaust stacks on either side of the engine and others have the expected 6 exhaust stacks? See min 2.01 - 5 stacks where other shots elsewhere have 6.
Joe Blow... It is a simple explanation IF you had just did the research on the mosquito. EARLY Mosquitos ONLY used the Single stage supercharger on the Mossies as did the Hurrycane and shitfire , this version of the merlin is shorter than the later 60 series 2 stage supercharged versions, and LONGER !!! The back two exhaust ports were twinned to give more clearance to the exhaust on the WOOD wing !!! Short answer is 5 stacks are 20 series SINGLE stage supercharger, 6 stacks are LATER 60 series 2 stage supercharged Merlins !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 Your country is the king of Liars and thieves and spongers You pay for nothing you do deals What is the problem with your DNA. Lancs 7000 built all used in Europe, and Halifax. B17s? less than 3000 in ETO You were in it you pay your own way. Stop sponging off others
B. Mk XX 245 built Built by de Havilland Canada with 1,460 hp Packard Merlin 31 or 33. Specification otherwise as B. Mk VII. BAE Systems Mosquito page www.baesystems.com/en/heritage/de-havilland-mosquito
High value and heavily defended targets like the Ploesti oil refinery complex in Romania would have been much better attacked by Mosquitos (a few raids with 4000 pounders + incendiaries would have probably put the facility permanently out of business) than B-24s which were slaughtered every time they went near the place.
The Great Dominion It was the B24's that destroyed the oil refinery on the second trip !!! First trip was a screw up on navigation and many bombers never even made it there !!!!
The Great Liar WRONG only the first raid on ploesti was a disaster due to weather and navigational errors, it was later destroyed by the B24's !!! Get your shit stories straight and read a history book NOT written by a fukin Limey liar !!!
@@jacktattis143 Tooooo fukin bad you did NOT do your research as the B24 was the saving grace in the battle of the Atlantic !!! Brits used those DONATED planes for sub patrol and they were responsible for THE most sub kills and saving the convoys and thus helping to save the limeys asses in the war !!!! DUUUUUHH!!!!!!!!
All kidding aside, the losses for night bombing were also horrific, Schnaufer wasn't the only night fighter with over 100 kills. The Lanc and the Halifax didn't fare well either. Harris also nearly stopped the night bombing campaign due to losses. So if the Mossie was the bomber to end all bombers why didn't Harris switch bomber production to all Mossies? And why compare it with the B-17? {Yes I know the Lanc and Hally could carry more} But the USA didn't develop the Mossie the U.K. did. So why should this vid be pointing the finger at just the USAAC? Remember when the 17 first came out it was the best bomber {at the time} on the tarmac. The folly should be pointed at USAAC Bomber Generals {if anyone} that left the 17 vulnerable by not having fighter escort ready at the outset.{Flak affected all sides} Once Gen. Doolittle took over and allowed the fighter free rein things changed. A lot of people forget those bombers were also used as bait to get the Luftwaffe to come up and fight. I hear a bit of disparagement toward the bomber crews by some of these so called experts,that should never happen. The Mossie wasn't the only night fighter either, Did these gents forget about the Beaufighter? Also a very good night fighter, it seems like some of these guys have tunnel vision. Are we back to just the Spitfire and the Mossie won the war again? AGAIN? It was perfect for Europe but some of the problems in the SEA never went away, first the glue issue {that was corrected}, but never the termite issue. Even Fly Past {The U.K.'s most popular aviation magazine} stated that was the cause of the Mossie being pulled from the SEA. I think some of the people in this vid probably need a little bit more of a history lesson.
Gary, Have you read the "Flying Greek" yet? I THINK YOU SHOULD! Wait until you get to the chapter where the 4th F.G. gets their new 51's. Proves what a mess they made of the whole show, AND the petty jealousies they had with the 56th F.G. It would be hilarious if it didn't cost the unnecessary loss of pilots and material. A good read throughout though. But that 1 chapter, worth the price.
Pay Way It was a much better target for German fighters and the key (along with the Rolls Royce Merlin-powered P-51 Mustang) to achieving allied air superiority over mainland Europe. In a sense, the B-17s and B-24s played a more important role as aerial bait for the Luftwaffe than they did in destroying targets on the ground.
In defence of heavy bomber's, surely it's a case of horses for courses. If there is a need for mass carpet bombing say, of a large industrial area like the Rhur, mass bombing is the best plan. Whereas, an individual target, requiring accurate aiming, the Mosquito was the ideal Aeroplane.
You can mass carpet bomb using Mosquitoes. They could carry a 4000lb light case “block buster” or the same amount of conventional or incendiary bombs. And they could bomb from much higher altitude and at much higher speed. If the allies had built Mosquitoes instead of Lancasters and B17s, they would have done more damage for far less casualties.
@@SvenTviking Quite probable---but they didn't produce the number's. In the early years of the war, our bomber's were not up to the job, only when the Manchester, developed into the Lancaster, 1942? did we have the right tool, ( paylode and range) and the production was stepped up massively. Bomber command had so many other targets to aim at from Britain, and Mosquito was kept busy enough. They weren't going to scrap their new bomber fleets eh?
They did try, but the result of their effort, the Focke Wulf Ta-154, was a bit of a dud, also coming quite late in the war. It never entered mass production. The Germans, probably correctly, decided to put their energy and resources into jet bombers and fighters such as the Ar 234 and the Me 262 instead.
The B 17 carried 8000 lbs of bombs! The Mosquito carried 4000lbs! How can this idiot say it carried the same as the B 17? You can even do a little research and find more idiots that claim the B 17 could only carry 3500 lbs of bombs! The British love to say the Spitfire is the only fighter in WWII that could be called magnificent! But look at the P 51. P 47, F4U Corsair, and other planes Amerca built! My father flew P 47s in WWII and escorted B 17s to Germany. Or most of the way there. Only the P 51 could go all the way and back with the B 17s. The Spitfire did not have that range. The Mosquito did, however.
Yes, Dave misspoke and should have qualified what he said. The -17 could carry up to 8000 lbs, but only on very short hauls just across the Channel to France. Going to Berlin it could only carry 4500 lbs because of the fuel, 10 man crew, ammo etc. The Mossie carried 4000 lbs to Berlin in half the time (4 hrs as compared to the B-17's 8 hrs), risking only 2 men, not 10, in an airplane that cost one quarter of what the B-17 did. Additionally the Mosquito did not require a fighter escort and it had a loss rate of one fifth of what the B-17 had. And while the Mustang was magnificent, remember that it was built for the British to their specifications, not for the USAAF. Sadly it was at best mediocre until the British Rolls Royce Merlin was mated to it. And yes, Spitfires did go to Berlin and beyond, but as recon airplanes, not as fighter escorts. BTW, the Lancaster regularly carried 14,000 lbs to Berlin and could drop a single 24,000 lb bomb. It was originally chosen to drop the atomic bombs on Japan because of the problems with the B-29.
One guy said the Mosquito could carry as much of a bomb load as a B 17! BS!! Most of these planes could carry 2000 lbs internal and a 500 lb bomb under each wing. That totals 3000 lbs! A few could carry 4000 lbs but not many! The B 17 could carry 8000 lbs!!
Yes, the B-17 could carry up to 8000 lbs, but only on very short hops across the Channel. On a trip to Berlin, the B-17 could carry only 4500 lbs of bombs. The Mosquito carried a single 4000 lb blockbuster bomb. The Mosquito did it in exactly half the time of the B-17 (4 hrs as compared to 8 for the -17), it risked only 2 crew members as compared to the B-17's 10 men, in an airplane that cost a quarter of the what the B-17 did. Additionally, the Mosquito had the lowest loss rate of any Allied bomber at 0.65% as compared to the B-17's loss rate which was 5.7 times higher than that of the Mosquito. As well the Mosquito did not require any escort fighters and until the Me262 reached service in the summer of 1944, it could outrun any fighter sent after it.
@@calgarymosquitosociety2061 I understand the Mosquito's record and capabilities. But the Mosquito did not carry the same load as the B 17! I don't care what you say the statement in the film was wrong! And you know it was wrong! All this crap about the B 17 could only carry 8000 lbs across 21 miles of ocean is a load of crap! Just like the other morons saying the Spitfire was the best fighter of WWII when the P 51 was the best! No one thinks about the P 51's ability to escort bombers to Berlin and Back! That is what made it the best besides it had more kills than any other fighter! I don't know where your group can say the Mosquito could carry the same amount of bombs as the B 17! And do not reply to me and give me more garbage about how great the damned Mosquito was! If I can figure out how to block you I am going to!
@@ronmartin121 You do know that the Mustang was designed for the RAF and was useless with the American Alison until it was mated with the British designed Rolls Royce Merlin? But I get it, you're one of those 'Don't confuse the issue with facts, because I've drunk the propaganda Kool-aid' types.'
@@ronmartin121 No-one has said that the B-17 could only carry 8,000lb across 21 miles of ocean. The truth and fact is that the usual B-17 load for the distance to Berlin was 4-5,000lb. It did do 8,000lb trips but that was just to northern France. The Spitfire was the only allied fighter that was in production and development from before the war to after the war. Yes, the P-51 was a great aircraft - but only after it had been re-engined with the Rolls-Royce designed Merlin. You don't want to admit it, national pride stops you but it's factually correct. If Allison engined P-51s had been used instead of Mk 1 Spitfires during the Battle of Britain the Luftwaffe would have prevailed. The P-51s simply couldn't have got to height to take them on. That's a fact. Don't mention speed, manouverability is king when fighting. That's why and how slower Hurricanes shot down many Bf109s. The entire aviation world acknowledges that the Mosquito was one of the greatest warplanes ever put into service - yet you insist that it wasn't.
@@PenzancePete This comment is from the Calgary Mosquito Society. Yes, the B-17 could carry up to 8000 lbs, but only on very short hops across the Channel. On a trip to Berlin, the B-17 could carry only 4500 lbs of bombs. The Mosquito carried a single 4000 lb blockbuster bomb. The Mosquito did it in exactly half the time of the B-17 (4 hrs as compared to 8 for the -17), it risked only 2 crew members as compared to the B-17's 10 men, in an airplane that cost a quarter of the what the B-17 did. Additionally, the Mosquito had the lowest loss rate of any Allied bomber at 0.65% as compared to the B-17's loss rate which was 5.7 times higher than that of the Mosquito. As well the Mosquito did not require any escort fighters and until the Me262 reached service in the summer of 1944, it could outrun any fighter sent after it.
