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Most accurate arrow rest alignment in one simple trick. 

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Update: Since using this technique, I've also improved my form. By making sure the forward sight is perfectly inline with the "at-draw" plane, "at rest" plane and arrow rest, you can see how much influence your putting on your string or bow at full draw. How many times have you adjusted everything on you bow to be fairly accurate but your front sight alignment is to the left or to the right of the arrow - the string and rest alignment? Put your arrow in the rest and look down the arrow and align it with the string. Where is you front sight? Is it left or right of this plane? If so, you ARE influencing your string with your form and thus will never be as accurate as you can. After a year with this set up and practice and everything in perfect plane... my fletchless paper tuning is perfect and accuracy is best I've ever had. Everything is in plane and I've relearned how to have "zero" string influence. But this is only done if you perfectly align all the planes and work to not have to adjust your front sight left or right. Thanks for watching everyone, I'll make a video on this soon. It's exciting and will help many.
How to align an arrow rest without error in one simple step with a piece of thread and some tape. An outside the box approach to aligning a bow rest that will be far more accurate for your initial setup. Hoyt RS3 Carbon arrow rest setup adjustment.

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@mikemellon80
@mikemellon80 5 лет назад
This is pretty awesome. Never seen anything like this and watched a lot of videos on bow setups. Good video
@horkley85
@horkley85 4 года назад
I had issues with tail wagging for a couple of years now and have been into archery shops, had my bow paper tuned, and nothing fully corrected the issue until I did this. Now my arrows fly straight, I have tight grouping again at every distance, and (after sighting in) my sights and arrow align better both before and after drawing back than they ever have. Thank you so much for sharing! My arrow was a little less off than yours in the video, but the difference it made was incredible!
@Roddy556
@Roddy556 2 месяца назад
Nice!
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 4 года назад
Him: "I'm a scientist." Me: "Yeah, right." Him: "I made up this alignment system." Me: "Still don't believe you're a scientist." Him: "These cams are 3.5mm out of center." Me: "An American using metric? 100% a scientist. I'm convinced."
@Rumwhiskey
@Rumwhiskey 4 месяца назад
You work for the pro shop ?🤔
@bigkountry29
@bigkountry29 Месяц назад
Umm he has a company called Howe & Howe Technologies….. He created the Ripsaw Tank…… End of Discussion.
@bigkountry29
@bigkountry29 Месяц назад
@@RumwhiskeyReady my comment…..
@keithshelton6017
@keithshelton6017 4 года назад
Great tip. There is a laser tool that mounts on riser in sight holes. You shoot laser to string at nocking point, then swivel it down the arrow shaft to see if the shaft is in same plane as nock. Your method is the same principle. Thx for the tip.
@ryanreynolds3679
@ryanreynolds3679 5 лет назад
In a perfect world, that’s a great idea. Problem is most people don’t have properly spined arrows. Start with centershot alignment, don’t always end with it.
@fernandoramos8393
@fernandoramos8393 4 года назад
That is an awesome way to having a more accurate reference alignment before fine tuning. I tip my hat to you, I'm in the construction trade, I used my green self leveling vertical laser to do the same idea. I got from center of cam to center of cam. I understand, can't always trust when they say that it's ready to go. Thanks for making the video, it helped.
@hut5097
@hut5097 4 года назад
Mike Mike Mike Mike! I LOVE this idea! My bow got knocked out of alignment the other day and I'm going to use your method to check it out! Cheers Brother!
@dcstolteadventures
@dcstolteadventures 5 лет назад
Excellent demonstration. Good start before paper tuning.
@ronhagopian7676
@ronhagopian7676 7 месяцев назад
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE INFO OUT THERE! it makes perfect sense to me! There will always be naysayers but I appreciate your wisdom and your kindness to share!
@jwild5360
@jwild5360 5 лет назад
Yep good place to start and merely just a starting point. Guys have been putting 2 Allen wrenches inside each limb bolt and attaching small bungee cords for ages. The width of the limb bolts spreads the cord enough to run the arrow through the middle without all that measuring and taping. With that said few and far between are bows that tune best with an arrow going dead down the center.
@jmbauer68
@jmbauer68 5 лет назад
Cool idea for left right. Kinda like bore sighting a rifle. Probably still should bare shaft tune due to outside factors. But this will save a lot of time.
@f4nt0m45
@f4nt0m45 4 месяца назад
Amazing tip! You can also use a laser level to check the whole 'plane' alignement from the front and back (including sight needle) or even instead of the string hack (straight tape all the way also might be easier than taping a string which might need to go over bolts etc,...)
@pensnut08
@pensnut08 5 лет назад
Thank so much for this sir!! Love it!
@justinferguson5451
@justinferguson5451 5 лет назад
This is the first video i seen on this. I been doing this a year ago, looking at my bow and thought "you would think you could tape a string on the riser . . ." and ding the lightbulb went off. So i been taping sewing thread inline with my string on both cams and setting the rest with a cut arrow to the line
@bastintripletroubleboys2101
@bastintripletroubleboys2101 4 года назад
Thanks, I used a variation of this to get the centre of the rest aligned with the plane of the string, worked well. My bow is 30 years old so the rest is close where the front of your shaft is. Shooting bare shafts the tail is out about 1 - 2 inches at 20 yards both left and right so i am guessing its either my 30 year old shafts or me 30 years out of practice
@bradfrye8297
@bradfrye8297 2 года назад
Nice tip bud. Thanks for sharing 👍
@goyaae7588
@goyaae7588 4 года назад
That's how I set my rest. A buddy of showed me this a couple years back. Can't go wrong
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
@ApexPredatorOutdoors 4 года назад
Great vid. Having these issues myself. Good place to start
@jarogugol5187
@jarogugol5187 2 месяца назад
Great video. Thabks
@cubefarmerhkc9105
@cubefarmerhkc9105 4 года назад
That’s genius. I have the same issue. Will try your method.
@fcolmant
@fcolmant 4 года назад
Bloody brilliant, thanks!
@ullysessestoso8904
@ullysessestoso8904 4 года назад
Yeah sean outdoor video that's where I've seen thus method before. Pretty good method
@85ZERO17
@85ZERO17 4 года назад
GOOD STARTING POINT...NOT A BAD PRACTICE TO IMPLEMENT TO GET YOU GOING. BUT IT ALL GOES OUT THE WINDOW ONCE YOU TUNE THE BOW. ESTABLISHING CENTER SHOT IS JUST A STARTING POINT.
@safdarsayyed112
@safdarsayyed112 4 года назад
Sounds logical... awesome
@yarrabarcreek5708
@yarrabarcreek5708 5 лет назад
I have the same bow, under full draw it was completely out even after doing something similar, ended up been one top limb was pulling down first the fix is the give or take twist on the strings that are either side of the limbs, your looks like the top left is down atm.
@purplehazenilsp
@purplehazenilsp 4 года назад
Great idea
@frogchecker8957
@frogchecker8957 6 месяцев назад
Shim your cams to bring your strings/cams to your center shot.
@johnt9490
@johnt9490 5 лет назад
Not sure but pro shop might have accounted for torque from cable guard. You are correct about center while bow is at rest. Not sure which will get you closer. Interesting.
@raybabinraybabin7777
@raybabinraybabin7777 4 года назад
Good observation I’ll have to look at mine when I get to camp I have noticed I had a little tail wag to mine also thanks
@BornN2Grave1
@BornN2Grave1 4 года назад
Some cams/idler wheels need an intentional lean to them so this might not work on all bows.
@derekmurphy4096
@derekmurphy4096 5 лет назад
Great Video
@davids970
@davids970 4 года назад
As long as theres no cam lean it should work,it could be tuned for the cam lean
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 5 лет назад
Ur arrow sitting on the rest should run through the center of the limb bolt set it there never move it shin to cams or tweak the yokes then shoot paper boom the bare shaft then walk back just my opinion but I am curious how did u fog out how many mm the cam was off center ?
@jmcb5215
@jmcb5215 5 лет назад
Great for center shot at rest but when at full draw if theres any cam lean its gonna throw
@125min
@125min 5 лет назад
There's a phenomenon called Archer's Paradox that explains the tip of the arrow being left of center.
@douglasbegnaud1
@douglasbegnaud1 5 лет назад
Looks like a great idea but, what happens when we draw the bow and the dreaded cable guard induced torque rears its ugly head? Dependent on a fixed or flexible system, this will have significant effect. My Hoyts always tune inside of center to achieve bullet holes when paper tuning along with the yoke tuning and such. I am always looking for a better way and will look at your method. Great video though.
@funkytruckermarkstre
@funkytruckermarkstre 2 года назад
Very good idea. Don't bother measuring your cam offset, just run your reference string from cam to cam and tape it to the cams.
@Howe2Live
@Howe2Live 2 года назад
Maybe you should watch the whole vid 1st before you bash. I say the cams are "3.5mm" offset @ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JmKns9ZAj2Q.html
@NONC_CASEY
@NONC_CASEY 9 месяцев назад
slick
@steffenoutdoorswi
@steffenoutdoorswi 5 лет назад
Nice!
@matthew197735
@matthew197735 2 года назад
I have tried to adjust my sight and my whisker biscuit for 20yrds but still shoots low and sights cant adjust anymore so was thinking it was the rest but might be the knocks thinking about it. any other ideas💡
@canoradam
@canoradam 6 месяцев назад
💯/ 💯 thanks!
@ozziejim8472
@ozziejim8472 5 лет назад
So would I know on my bow how far my cams are off set?
@cjourd6826
@cjourd6826 5 лет назад
Lol cool man!
@kmor5049
@kmor5049 5 лет назад
seans outdoor adventures......
@anthonymcknight5400
@anthonymcknight5400 5 лет назад
Ok archers here some tools for you center shot alignment ,golden key center shot alignment tool, OMP laser alignment tool. They range from $15 to $55 dollars. Start tunning your bows. And shoot straight
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 5 лет назад
Ur wife got a 70lb bow damn she is a beast
@jesusgutierrez1209
@jesusgutierrez1209 5 лет назад
What sight are you using on your bow??
@allandoesfish2971
@allandoesfish2971 8 месяцев назад
Let me tell you why this doesn’t work because your top cam and your bottom cam are 1/4 difference in measurment
@danmuffley6418
@danmuffley6418 7 месяцев назад
Your wife shoots a 70lb bow ?
@fishingolf
@fishingolf 4 года назад
your wife pulls 70 lbs?
@richrock3373
@richrock3373 5 лет назад
Yes, This is a great place to START to find center-shot then paper tune but, after paper tuning, in my opinion, nothing beats bare shaft tuning.
@Howe2Live
@Howe2Live 2 года назад
I agree but doing this will also help determine how much string influence you may have at full draw. I'll put up another vid soon to explain.
@donamesevenmatter8019
@donamesevenmatter8019 4 месяца назад
Hey thanks for video, great technique to add to my bow tuning arsenal
@louisbailey4900
@louisbailey4900 4 года назад
Works great Just did it on my Mission MXR,and after setting center shot,I drew my bow and looked thru my peep. I aligned my sight pins with the taped on string. That makes your sight and rest in alignment. Worked perfectly!!
@Lok56hart
@Lok56hart 4 года назад
They did this in the 90’s, it’s a decent starting point but that’s about all it is. Paper tune, walk back tune, and bareshaft is a must for ultimate accuracy.
@brentlittle2810
@brentlittle2810 5 лет назад
Genius Mike! I'll be using this for setup now.
@jessewilliamson6596
@jessewilliamson6596 5 лет назад
This is really cool idea. It makes sense to me. This is probably a dumb question but, I get the 3.5 mm off center thing but from which side of the limb pocket do you measure from the left or right, looking from the string side or the riser side?
@miggyq2327
@miggyq2327 4 года назад
Awesome tip! Just getting into archery and this will come in handy
@donovanstockton44
@donovanstockton44 4 года назад
That's brilliant and all the more better as DIY guys can do it at home. Thanks for sharing bossman.
@stefandoering7855
@stefandoering7855 4 года назад
Big thank you Mike ! I just tuned my arrow rest (was 5mm off) Finding the plane was always I struggled with. Very simple and smart! Well explained, awesome video! And: my groups seams tighter :) Of course after tuning the rest - adjusting the sight :)
@Howe2Live
@Howe2Live Год назад
Thanks Stefan:)
@ramsaycountry1177
@ramsaycountry1177 2 месяца назад
And that's with the bow not being drawn, you can throw all that out the window when you put your hand toque into the equation.
@dewaynenunley569
@dewaynenunley569 5 лет назад
I’m pretty sure my arrow is doing a little tale kick while in flight, I measured off of the riser like you was showing how everyone else does it, but I’ll definitely be giving this new way a try, looks much more accurate.
@peem3154
@peem3154 Месяц назад
How you measure that the cams are out of centre? Very interesting your vid, improvment of accuracy expected.
@Sertao2013
@Sertao2013 7 месяцев назад
If you put a sharp field tip on the end of your short arrow you can line it up to the string you added a lot better or cut your arrow longer than the string and cut out a notch half way into the arrow and move the rest until the center of the cut out touches your line . On just about all the new bows the risers have a flat riser . If you put a square over the center hole and mark the location of the string on the square you can then just flip it over and use the longest arrow you can get like 32 inch arrow and using the longest square you have line the center of the arrow at the very tip to the string mark you made with the string . The longer the arrow tip is from the bow the more accurate your alignment will be . To make thing easy cut the tip of the arrow in half about a 1/2 inch back so when you lower the square down you will know if its in the center or not .
@simonleland2873
@simonleland2873 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant start but rather than just tapping on the limb, start your string on the cam itself and then tape to the limb.
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 4 года назад
instead of measing then taping the string. why not take the string all the way over the top and tape it to the top of the top cam. then down and tape it the the bottom of the bottom cam. then its strait?
@jonnytoast
@jonnytoast 3 месяца назад
Off by an inch 5ft away is a foot and more the further away your target is. Smart idea.
@hudsonh344
@hudsonh344 4 года назад
your wife shoots 70 pounds?? Dayum son
@careyhamil
@careyhamil 5 лет назад
Interesting.....
@catlin-vn1sh
@catlin-vn1sh 8 месяцев назад
This solved my fishtail this is an awesome hack.
@maxleo7556
@maxleo7556 2 года назад
great trick! Thanks!
@gandalf2256
@gandalf2256 4 месяца назад
Legend, thanks for this
@allandoesfish2971
@allandoesfish2971 8 месяцев назад
I just tried it it doesn’t work
@mexifri2364
@mexifri2364 5 лет назад
I have been doing this for years
@greekmaster1001
@greekmaster1001 4 года назад
I use a construction laser
@amaroq69
@amaroq69 4 года назад
Plumb bob from the nock point & a level bow would also show whether or not your rest is centered. I like the idea tho.
@tucker2074
@tucker2074 6 месяцев назад
Thankyou
@lordbwithu3105
@lordbwithu3105 5 лет назад
Simply genius my man. I wish I would’ve found this vid when I was still screwing around with compounds. Since giving up the wheels and the gizmos I just walk- back tune with my trad gear. Awesome tip though!
@mitchellwilliams4337
@mitchellwilliams4337 5 лет назад
Did you paper tune after doing this.....I agree 100% with it all needing to be in the same plane and it all looks good at rest but I wonder if all remains the same once force is applied and spine deflection comes into play. Not trying to pick apart what you did or call it wrong, just trying to see how well it worked because it could end up being a fool proof method for setting center shot.
@alexbetts452
@alexbetts452 5 лет назад
Many people end up somewhere other than “center shot” after tuning... Center shot is essentially how a hooter shooter would shoot the bow best. everyone torques bows different. Like you and others said it’s a good starting point... in other words many people shoot a tear even on center..
@Z33Garage
@Z33Garage 5 лет назад
Worked good for a base setup for me! Thanks man
@chriscox2555
@chriscox2555 5 лет назад
Help a brother out, how did you determine that the cams were exactly 3.5mm off center and which direction? Just measurements from the limbs to the center of the cam track?
@jameskerns3530
@jameskerns3530 2 года назад
Thanks but it’s very difficult to see what you are doing. A drawing would probably be better. But thank you.
@Skittlz2710
@Skittlz2710 5 лет назад
I have a Mathews Halon 32. At full draw, I have cam lean. Would this not make a difference? I think it would.
@tonyallen8626
@tonyallen8626 4 года назад
The reason the pro shop didn't set your rest correctly is because they were been lazy not because it's hard to do, There's plenty of ways to set your rest in the correct position, special in a pro shop and none of them are hard to do.
@Adlautz
@Adlautz 5 лет назад
Tried this and it’s a good starting point! The only thing I did different was taped the string to the cams themselves. Also, What sight is that?
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 4 года назад
also when you pull your bow to full draw. most bows will flex a tiny bit putting the arrow slightly toward the right. or so i've read
@mathewroberts6124
@mathewroberts6124 5 лет назад
Yea your method works. Made my wife shoot better and I just robin hooded my first 2 arrows after using your method
@TangoOne
@TangoOne 2 года назад
Thanks, I just used this method after a nightmare paper tuning session (it might be my spine).
@amc31b
@amc31b 4 года назад
Interesting. Could you just tie the alignment string to the cams and then run it down the front of the bow?
@ShreddinSleds
@ShreddinSleds 4 года назад
And imagine how far that arrow was off all the way at the tip! Probably 3/4” or so!
@jthepickle7
@jthepickle7 10 месяцев назад
Been 20 years since I tuned a new bow...it all comes back to me now!
@shoot2hunt669
@shoot2hunt669 4 года назад
makes perfect sense thanks man!
@stangbanger6445
@stangbanger6445 5 лет назад
Well done. Appreciate it. I'll be doing this tonight
@ullysessestoso8904
@ullysessestoso8904 4 года назад
Ive seen this kind of method before from an old RU-vid video
@chungyeunglai5606
@chungyeunglai5606 5 лет назад
Thank you Mr Thank you for your sharing is very useful
@k.g.r.2682
@k.g.r.2682 4 года назад
Brilliant. Would also work with a recurve.
@SirBavarian68
@SirBavarian68 4 года назад
That's good, but the most accurate method is to use a laser
@damirvukelic8087
@damirvukelic8087 5 лет назад
Sort of precise-eyeballing the setup.
@sonnyadams7894
@sonnyadams7894 5 лет назад
Exactly the correct way of tuning!
@bradbrandon2506
@bradbrandon2506 4 года назад
Dude that was awesome! Thanks Mike!
@richstafford1245
@richstafford1245 5 лет назад
Did you say you’re wife shoots a 70 lb bow?
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