Most Common Mod 2 Mistakes [3. Passing parked vehicles & hazards on both sides] 

Oooh I like that 😊 Thanks Graham.

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​@@motorcyclelessonsuk sorry, I missed that.

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Hello, good question. I tend to say "if you are significantly moving position" then you need to check. A change of lanes and coming around parked cars are good examples of when we should be doing them at DAS level. Going around a speed bump may not be such a big change of position so mirrors might be acceptable but it depends on how wide you go and where you were in the first place. Hope that helps 😊

Thanks Leanna, ‘significantly moving position’ is a helpful way of thinking about it whilst taking into consideration the situation at the time.

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Hi, in short, because cars are more likely to come up to junctions than driveways due to the volume of traffic using them. Yes, be mindful of driveway entrances but they are not treated the same as actual junctions. Thanks 😊

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What would you suggest is a better alternative? 🤔

@@motorcyclelessonsuk go straight to a2 or at least something more testing and thorough, for me mod 1 and mod 2 was just another dragged out cbt but less enjoyable since I've been riding on my own for quite sometime now so I'm not coming away feeling like I've learnt or gained anything besides a few minimal a1 perks which might aswell be nothing tbh all in all spending £100 for someone to check I'm riding ok for an hour is daft. I get the cbt n the theory wich I enjoyed just hated the mod 1 n 2

Secondly the usual place I went for tests etc was great but sadly it shut down so I went to the big DVSA centre were honestly I didn't even think the instructors liked riding, they looked like robots who hated there jobs 🤷‍♂️

@@quackquacksable it's a shame that was your experience. What brings you to my channel?

@@quackquacksable it sounds to me as though you drew the short straw with your training school. The purpose of motorcycle training for modules 1 & 2 is not just to pass the test. As you've identified, it should be thorough and go beyond test requirements to ensure riders are set up with the skills and knowledge to be safe for life. Riding to cbt standard doesn't necessarily mean riders will or can pass the test, but more importantly, it does not mean they have the skills to ride a large motorcycle safely. Your experience sounds lacking in depth and breadth of training and imparting of knowledge, and it is a shame that you feel there was little worth in it. Consider advanced training however as there is a lot more to learn and apply beyond even Mod 2 standards. Many thanks.

Thank you for your kind comments. We've trained (or should I say "re-trained") a number of poeple in the same boat as your friend, very unfortunate, but sometimes a good refresher of those skills. Thanks again 😊

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Well done. I'm really pleased for you, thanks for letting me know. Enjoy taking those L plates off 😊

Haha that's an idea! Thanks for the feedback 😊

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Thank you, yes it's a shame the roads are in such a state. But it all adds to the forward planning part of riding 😉. Thanks for your comments 😊

Haha yes, this one was surprisingly popular! Thanks Kev 😊

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Hello, in short, no it's not an automatic fail. If a car pulls out on you and you deal with it appropriately, you would not even get a fault for it, as it is not your fault. It depends on how you react, and whether your actions keep you safe or place you in any other danger at the time. Thanks for asking 😊

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Hello, thanks for the question. The Tesla had priority because the parked cars were on my side of the road, so I should give way to the oncoming traffic as their way ahead is not restricted by the parked vehicles. I hope that helps 😊

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Thank you, Is that legislation or an unwritten rule?

​@@MegaMaxymooin the Highway code, rule 163 states we should "give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road". It is a "should" not a "must" therefore it is advisory, and not backed up by legislation. However it could be taken into account when determining blame if you did not give way and we're involved in an incident. I hope this helps. Thanks 😊

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Much appreciated!

No it's not recommended for road riding on the test. Thanks 😊

A look over your shoulder in the direction you wish to move or where there may be danger coming from. It's a movement of chin to shoulder to extend the peripheral vision into the blind spot not covered by the mirrors, not a full look behind you (no owl impressions needed!). Thanks.

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@@motorcyclelessonsuk Would you consider doing a Q and A video with questions from your viewers? For example i saw in one of your videos you told your student to pull in the clutch all the way otherwise it would damage the clutch (i assume). but i saw in other youtube videos that we dont need to pull the clutch all the way in. Which is it? Thank you very much

@@amirashoori4197 hi, yes I often do uploads based on what has been requested. The reason I say to pull the clutch all the way in is because not all bikes have the same biting point and it is more likely for more inexperienced riders to mistime their gear changes if they don't pull the clutch all the way in, which is not good for the gearbox. "Clutch in" is also a safety phrase we use in case a student lets the clutch out too far too soon when pulling away, so it's good for them to know that when we say "clutch in", it comes all the way in to save them from ending up somewhere they didn't intend to. I hope that helps 😊

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. OK, so there are some lifesavers that are compulsory at DAS level and other ones that aren't. When you get to advanced level, mirrors can supercede some of the lifesavers BUT at DAS level the new rider is not considered experienced enough to just use mirrors when changing significantly position. You're right that you shouldn't be doing unnecessary lifesavers. They should be necessary and not done because you think the examiner wants to see them: do them because you want to check it is safe to move. If you were doing 20mph in an advisory area when it was not busy and you were holding up traffic from behind you would get a fault and could fail if the vehicle immediately behind you is tailgating and showing signs of impatience. You should only be doing the advisory speed limits when the area is busy. I hope that helps 😊

Thanks for the comment. Yes, it was very different back in those days wasn't it 😬?

Thanks, I'm glad you're finding them useful. Good luck 😊

@@motorcyclelessonsuk 1hr and 20 before the test now, feeling good. Thanks again for the great content 😎🏍

@@ccrDan aaaaaaaaand? 😂

It was a pass, just waiting on delivery of my bike. Thanks again for the great content. It was a REAL help 😎

@@ccrDan hurray, well done. Enjoy your bike when it arrives and stay safe. You're welcome 😊

Signal to change lanes when it will benefit any other road user in the vicinity. If you are close to a junction, either choose to to indicate, or, give a short one or two flash of thr indicator just prior to changing lane and then cancel immediately. Thanks 😊

@@t.c6933 GoPro Hero8 for video, and just a Drift Ghost XL Pro with a Rode lavalier microphone for sound on this one. Thanks 😊

Also, assuming the lane is clear for you to move into, would you still indicate right and then left to change lanes if there are junctions around? Or would that be misleading?

Hi, sorry it's taken a while to reply. For passing parked vehicles I wouldn't indicate to move due to possibility of junctions around. However if you are actually changing lanes and there is other traffic about then an indicator to change lanes is helpful. Try not to indicate until it is safe to move, that way you remove the possibility of other traffic changing their speed or direction due to your indicator. It also removes the awkward moment of "are they going to change lanes in front of me, or after I've passed them" from the point of view of the other drivers. Hope that's helpful 😊

General advice for passing stationary vehicles, when riding a motorcycle, is not to indicate, unless actually turning. The danger with indicating when passing stationary vehicles is that this could be misunderstood as an intention to turn. In a car we may indicate, because it is unclear whether we have joined a queue of parked vehicles for instance, however on a bike, we are unlikely to sit behind a stationary vehicle, so the traffic around should be able to anticipate we will be moving out, as evidenced by the lifesaver to do so. We don't want to give misinformation that could cause another vehicle to turn across us or pull out on us if there is a junction in the vicinity, or they intend to turn prior to us passing them. They could perceive the indicator as intention to turn, slowing down for the move past the vehicle as further evidence and then move across us. Thanks 😊

Thanks for your reply for me personally I would never rely on another drivers anticipation.

@@TomChiang-r6j oh dear. 'Swerving' or changing direction quickly at any speed can surprise your tyre, reducing grip and potentially control of the vehicle. I suspect the examiner is encouraging you to be smooth for your own safety. Changes of position should be smooth, planned and not sudden. Make it look planned and make it feel smooth by looking further up the road and anticipating the need to move in earlier. That's the best advice I can give.

@@motorcyclelessonsuk After some thoughts about it, I believe I made the swerve due to the previous advice that the examiner gave when I failed the 1st mod 2 test. The problem was that I was sticking too close to the parked cars at the speed limit of 20mph. His advice was to go as wide as possible and suggested some of your advice from the video, which is to go into the opposite lane. However, from this 2nd mod 2 test route, it is unfortunately impossible to do this since: 1. Too many parked cars combined with hills and corners, causing too many blind spots. 2. High level of incoming and ongoing traffic. 3. Junctions everywhere This could mean I swerved because I did not see or overreact to the incoming traffic. My only solution for this is to get close to the parked cars and gently do 10-15mph. I'm not sure if there is anything you can advise on this.

@@TomChiang-r6j yes, closer to the parked cars and slower. Possibly even slower than the speeds you're suggesting. The smaller the gap, the less speed. Always anticipate there may be something coming around blind bends and put yourself in the safest position before it happens, not when. 👍🏻

Can you give me a time code? I had a quick look through but can't find the moment you're referring to 🤔😬

Agreed. It seems to be getting worse as time goes on 😔. Thank you 😊