Yo if you are salty cuz I got a pair to test out casually and to test the new technology since I am genuinely interested in it, but I’m not a runner... remember Jordan, yeah his Air Jordan shoes were used for PERFORMANCE ONLY also, but had a cross over to lifestyle. Some runners can to the same. I say in the beginning this is a casual vid, don’t like it,move on, not a hard thing to do! 🦶✌️
I am not being salty but I still don agree that these high stack runner is good for long term use (LONG TERM ONLY). Short term use should be okay..but i am not too sure.
Hey HesKicks, I’m one of the so-called haters. But I’m not... I support the channel and have been quite a big fan of the content you put out. But reviews on these super-shoes that are meant for racing is something I don’t look forwards to. It happens with every Nike or Carbon shoe release. I’ve mentioned in my own comment why it is bad (overpronation from carbon causes ligament damage, etc) and why people shouldn’t be wearing an elite running shoe as a casual shoe. There is no disclaimer within the video and by the looks of other comments, is quite encouraging to people to buy these shoes for casual use. Air Jordan basketball shoes were for “performance only” but transitioned to everyday wear. And you might find that the modern “tech-filled” basketball shoe also has off-court design elements to it (Nike also has those customers in mind). But what Nike did with Kipchoge is to make a shoe TAILORED to the marathon and racing not for casual use. There are other shoes that are similar to the Alphafly made for comfort without a carbon plate and have design elements like it FOR CASUAL USE. The technology of carbon fiber is something revolutionary but in the eyes of a casual perspective kinda hazardous. The shoes are also built for straight lines that’s why in cornering it’s somewhat unstable. Being built with not durable rubber (the nature of nike and being a “race day only shoe”), therefore you shouldn’t be wearing them for as a casual shoe. I’m not hating just telling you the facts based off of me being a competitive runner as well as a sneakerhead who appreciates shoes just like you. Hope this opens up a bit of your perspective onto the world of “elite-carbon” shoe.
Don't compare running to basketball. Most running shoes can cause foot injury If you keep wearing them casually. Basketball shoes more likely to be closer to the ground...
I know you get a lot of hate for using these shoes causally but as a competitive runner myself I take no offense. You make it clear that you are reviewing the shoe from a causal perspective and that the shoe is not intended for causal use. You also seem to truly respect the history and legacy of the shoe and the athletes behind it. Keep up the good work!
@MY RU-vid Ok yes, they will but they are racing shoes so they will not last you super long if you are putting in 12 miles on a daily basis for example. If it's for occasionally running 12 miles outdoors than sure but if you're putting in tons of miles I would suggest the pegasus turbo. those also have the zoomx foam but are more durable since they use a layer of react foam as well
It might be interesting to know that while at slow paces, lots of high end racing shoes feel unstable, at quicker paces with higher forces, the stability problems go away. As a runner, not a sneaker guy, this vid was quite an interesting perspective.
I’ve heard so many opinions on this shoe from a runners perspective, it’s nice to hear your review from a casual perspective (nicely done by the way). I’m a runner, not elite by any means but still competitive in my age group, and my biggest problem is the $275 price tag. I suppose if I was some super elite world class athlete they might be worth it but at my level I just can’t justify the price. The other thing I’ve heard is their durability may be lacking. Believe me if I’m going to spend nearly $300 on a pair of running shoes they better hold up for 500+ miles of use which, from what I hear, these don’t even come close. Bottom line, I’ll pass on these for now.
Definitely a "save for race day/PR day" shoe. The new Tempo Next% is supposed to be the daily trainer companion to these and should have more durability due to having a React heel cushion. Those aren't that cheap either though at around $200. Many cheaper options around. I personally use a Zoom Fly FK and Zoom Fly 3 for training, and I picked both of those up on sale.
thanks for the added feedback from the running side! Yeah the price is huge and there are really good options out like Saucony Endorphin Pro that feel good on feet too, and have way better tread. These feel crazy on feet tho, fun to try out!
@@heskicks The Endorphin Pro is another fantastic elite level running shoe that I plan to give a try someday. Props for giving it a shout out, I appreciate your enthusiasm for all these types of shoes. Unfortunately, it's even harder to find where I live than the Next%, lol.
@@Xmasochist It is a really good shoe. Its durability is insane. I really don’t have to bring it with me on race day, often just wear it to the track directly. After 100 plus miles, still have zero wear on the outsole.
I don’t know man from what I’ve read I don’t think those are safe to wear just as casual shoes. I feel like certain shoes are shaped a certain way. Running shoes are those type of shoes. Basketball shoes are a little bit different because there’s a lot of times in the game we were just standing still. When you’re running you’re supposed to be running and when you’re done running you get off your feet. Screw it though if you want to be a guinea pig go ahead and do it.
To think that runners like me are struggling to even find a pair to buy to go run actual races, that is the staple of all running shoes, every distance runner is on their knees for them and he is just at his table with a pair talking about how he’s going to wear them casually 🤦♂️
Bro, with the insane stack height of these combined with ZERO lateral support (they are designed to go forward and forward only), you are BEGGING to roll your ankles in a most horrific way by wearing them casually. Dragsters are badass on drag strips, not so much in a cul de sac. But hey, to each their own!
I honestly don’t know how I feel about this video. I am competitive college runner and tried multiple times to purchase this and the previous colorway. After seeing the comments and the amount of people that want to wear this casually, I am annoyed. I want these for performance but I losing out to people wearing them casually
If I started running on them would it make you less salty? If I gifted them to a runner would that make you feel better? The problem is it doesn’t matter if I’m honest or not with these people will hate that I got a pair. I get no respect for being honest about the intent, just criticized for things that I openly call out in the vid that people don’t even listen to.
Why don't you put on your best running shoes and run around to some outlets and see if you can find a pair in stock? I might purchase a pair to wear while I smoke a bowl and watch TV.
Angelo Duarte you are missing the point. I am not saying these are good for walking and not saying try as I try. I am giving an example of how these are on feet, period. How are people going to know if they can be worn for anything else if yon don’t try. I paid my money to try. I didn’t like the VaporFly next, I said that in the other vid, I did like these. Everybody’s entitled to their opinion, this is mine
Hey Hes, love your channel. I also love running, but i wont have any problem even if you burn hundreds of pairs of Alphaflys or any other extremely hard to get shoes to keep yourself warm. If you bought it with your own money, dont give a single F to anybody's opinion. More power champ
I believe air zoom is for shoes that have a visible zoom unit (Lebron 10, KD 7, etc.) and zoom air refers to the traditional encapsulated unit you find in most zoom-equipped shoes
Appreciate the review as always. It's cool that they're insanely, but I personally would not wear these casually. I bought the Zoom Type cuz I felt it was a more casual-flavored version
Yeah, the cushion is crazy good. I have worn my pair for running and sometimes casual wear, no problems with them yet. Cool review, going from a casual viewpoint.
i respect the man for trying these out, yes they are not for casual but dont hate on him "hes" a shoe collector. Also I’m a runner and I’m a straight up nerd when it comes to this stuff too.
great for racing, bad for walking. it doesn't matter how soft the cushioning is, this shoe is terrible for walking in so many ways. most ppl heel strike while they walk. this shoe is designed for forefoot strike while running. if you heel strike on these, you lose your balance very easily as there is no heel support and there is no structure for the foam. these shoes are also made for max ventilation so if you just sitting around your feet will be cold. these shoes have about 25% the life span of regular running shoes. the exposed foam wears down quick. even walking in gravel or any unsmoothed surfaces will shread the unprotected zoomx on the bottom with 5-10 mins.
I really wanted to hate these because of their price point, but the the underfoot experience is pretty darned great. Both the ZoomX in the rear feels great, and the FlyPlate and Zoom Air in the forefoot really gives a "launching" feeling. And they are much more widefoot friendly (gang gang!) than most runners And while I like how this colorway looks, I don't like the upper materials, which feels stiff and plastic-y to me - I'm sure Nike was just trying to give a breathable, lightweight, durable upper, but just coming from a casual perspective, I don't care for it, and prefer the upper on the 4% So, I'm torn on whether I'll keep them or return them (to the sports-store I got them from)
These are made for a specific purpose. If you are a stability runner these are terrible. Don’t buy in hype go to a proper shoe/running store and find out what type of sneakers are right for you. Only poseurs buy sneakers off a rack in a store.
This colourway is actually pretty dope. After they're worn out from running, I'm gonna retire them to casual wear. Cushion should still be more than enough for that.
I bought 5 pairs in 4 weeks. My feet haven't touched the ground while walking 5 miles per day in them. I want to rotate them to preserve them. Go up half size to get your feet in them easier and have a little more toe room. Otherwise, your natural size will fit, but be harder to put on.
Yeah, these shoes are something alright. My pair came in just yesterday, and was impressed as soon as I opened the box. Looks even better in person and insanely light considering how chunky it appears. Also got the Vaporfly in the same colourway.
@@Loggerr it can definitely be worn casually with the amount of cushioning, but it's not the most stable shoe for just walking around. Wouldn't buy it for just purely casual use, since I have cheaper and more suitable pairs for that.
I also have a bunch of Pegasus Turbos . That shoe is incredible. I have to thank you for that because those things weren't even on my radar before I saw you touting them.
Why you review an elite performance product when its obvious you are not into running? Even people who don't run under 2:30min/km are stupid if they spend money for this.
I just got a pair of these, I thought the zoom invincible’s could not be beat as far as comfort. When I tell you I feel like I’m walking on clouds, it’s amazing, I haven’t used them all day yet but I got them for casual use and can say it’s no more waiting outside on the bench while the wife shops because my dawgs are hurting lol
I have to admit, am surprised by the review: I thought that combining a soft foam and air zoom in this shoe would end up Like the Air Max 270 React: just plain weird on feet for a lot of people. But seems that they have have found the right recipe for this shoe...and for that price, just as well...
Bro, I want to know if these were truly comfy. I got a pair of these , and damn son they were not kidding that it’s built for EKs foot. These are the most narrow shoe I have ever put my foot in. I cannot imagine these feel good on any feet except the skinniest Elongated marathon feet. They don’t even have a tall arch stabilizer wall but my foot was no lie many many inches too wide . I finally put a thick insole in there and they are not digging into my foot at bad. I can see in this video it digging into your foot at well. Can you really not feel it ? I’m cool with using an insole though because these are so incredible nice to walk in and look so great. Plus I’m a 13 so it’s got a monster 55mm stack 0_o
whats a more comfortable shoe ? these or the invincibles ? i literally just bought the invincibles....and BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....i literally bought them based off ur review and i am super happy, but these look alittle cooler...thinking of getting these as well... whats ur take on it ! alpha fly next% or invincibles ?
These are the running/marathon version meant specifically for that purpose. They do have another version in the line that is more of a training shoe for standard training that is probably better suited for casual wear in comparison. i have a link saved for them to keep an eye out if they go on sale or the price comes down any.
There is not a marathon runner who did a sub two hour marathon on a prototype of these sneakers. His name his Eluid kipchoge and his achievement is as great as human kind landing on moon so give some respect ✊.
@@curley13815 Nope. It was confirmed by Nike that there's only one plate, and they only tweaked it slightly for the public release. People just got that info from a patent.
I own a pair and used them on my last vacation to SanDiego and LA. and I walked all day and night in them. The most comfortable shoe I own. I have a bone spur and plantar fasciitis in both feet. This is my new go to for causal walking hands down.
These are nice if you are running marathons. I will stick to my v1 Peg Turbos. I have several pairs of the v1 Peg Turbos with the stripe and those are super dope for casual wear. I actually prefer the regular pegasus for running. More support and lasts way longer for daily training.
You know what really sucks. Runners like myself want these shoes to race in and nothing more. Most of us arent sneakerheads and its sad that we runners have to pay the extraordinary markup price for these from people who cant even run a half a mile without walking. SAD.
So i just got these. Insane bounce and spring. Unfair advantage for runners. But i dont know if i can wear it casually because they are loud walking around.
I like your perspective on performance shoes leaking into casual streetwear. However I really don’t think that’s the greatest idea with these things, I foresee rolled ankles and it could mess up your stride. Not to mention hard on your hips and back. But you paid for it, go have some fun and test them out then post a video on casual wear
I have these and the vaporfly next %. The vaporfly changed my world and these just raised the bar . I used them for running as while some other shoes are good, these are different
What is the Nike shoe on the left at 11:31 - the white/cream/green - that one looks like a realy cool stable shoe for casual but can't find it in your other videos!!! I love anything that gives me extra height LOL Love your videos!
Oh cool tie dye socks again.. yeah those go well with every single shoe. You should make every other video have to do with custom tye die or ice dyed stuff.. like all the time..