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Most Intense Flavor Yet! Tasting New Seedling Apples, Nov 2020 

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Tasting the new seedling apples that are fruiting this year, plus a few old ones. Two intensely flavored varieities and one the most intense yet, tasting of artificial grape and watermelon candy.
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@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
Updates on this video. Grenadine x Lady Williams 11/7 has a name now, Hard Candy Cider. The flavor seems to be a mix of hard fruit candy like flavors. Grenadine X Lady Williams 11/1 did make great apple sauce actually and I'm keeping an eye on it as a possible later fall cooking apple.
@mynameisnotcory
@mynameisnotcory 3 года назад
PLEASE do some cider videos with cider guys you know or by yourself! There really isnt a ton of info on natural grown cider stuff on youtube after doing some research
@kirstenwhitworth8079
@kirstenwhitworth8079 3 года назад
Yes, please! Micro-batches sound intriguing. I planted a (mostly) cider orchard 4 years ago; half the trees bore fruit, but not in large quantities. I've love to know how to brew micro-batches, even in a quart jar.
@mihacurk
@mihacurk 3 года назад
Yes! Do it Steven:)
@mynameisnotcory
@mynameisnotcory 3 года назад
Im glad im not the only one who tastes corn starch type flavors in apples occasionally
@nineallday000
@nineallday000 3 года назад
Wonderful to see you getting to taste all your apples from the breeding project! Love it!
@abcabc39
@abcabc39 3 года назад
Maybe Sinkwater Flushit?
@trillium7582
@trillium7582 3 года назад
"An afternote of corn tortillas". Delightful!
@trillium7582
@trillium7582 3 года назад
Also "a hint of dishwater". Thank you for this apple sommelier knowledge!
@feralkevin
@feralkevin 3 года назад
Interesting. I'm down in the inland part of the Bay Area, and we had a great apple year!
@daveyjoweaver5183
@daveyjoweaver5183 3 года назад
Certainly a very fine Apple tasting Skillcult adventure and I Thank You Kindly Steven! Happy Thanksgiving! DaveyJO
@richardsmiley7272
@richardsmiley7272 3 года назад
To get earlier fruiting, we used to let it sky (not prune the apical bud) and then at about 7 or eight feet bend it over into a crook, so that the top was pointing down. Since you are not forcing the tree to spread or develop, you use less area for your seedlings, and of course as most of them are going to be substandard, you cull anyway. First season fruiting you already get an idea if it is interesting, second season, you have enough to run your tests on...
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
Is that for apple seedlings specifically? I'll give it a try.
@richardsmiley7272
@richardsmiley7272 3 года назад
@@SkillCult It's what I've seen with apples. They used plastic pots of maybe 5 -6 gallons, all side by side, with drippers and proper fertilization, and of course they grew up... and then they bent them over when the seedlings were over 2 meters high. The next year, the part of the tree that was bent over would generally initiate floral buds and the following year's fruit gave them an idea whether the tree was worth looking into or not.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
@@richardsmiley7272 I will try that. My trees usually grow slow though, so it might take a while to get them that tall if I don' put them on drip or fertigation. Thanks
@camazotzz
@camazotzz 3 года назад
You ever go to Apple Hill?
@IronGoober
@IronGoober 3 года назад
I am not an apple afficianado (I do love apples, though), but this is an extremely entertaining video to watch.
@growforkeeps4432
@growforkeeps4432 3 года назад
"you gotta smell the butt... ::long sniff:: This butt smells good." 😂
@ianlang9312
@ianlang9312 3 года назад
Is cider made from red fleshed apples a different colour or am I way overthinking this?
@XoroksComment
@XoroksComment 3 года назад
I'd guess so. Apple juice made from red apples is red. The color also survives baking, so you can make apple pie with red apple slices.
@Aermydach
@Aermydach 3 года назад
Depends on how much of that colour is extracted during fermentation. Also, in winemaking, there's a process called maceration. It is when you leave all the pulp and skins and juice sit in cold storage for a few days. This allows tannins, colour and other stuff to leach out of the solids into the juice before fermentation. The downside is that you risk the loss of volatile flavour compounds because the oxygen in the air reacts with them. Lastly, I'd like to point out that I'm not a pro-winemaker. This is stuff I've gathered from my studies at uni.
@timobreumelhof88
@timobreumelhof88 3 года назад
great to see the progress! I really like the looks of those black strawberry apples. Very curious how it will turn out full grown.. Not sure you mentioned it one of your video's before but what root stock do you use for those test trees?
@tylerjeffery1903
@tylerjeffery1903 2 года назад
Did you ever find out what the rubber one was?
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 2 года назад
No, not yet. It either didn't fruit last year, or it was different enough that I didn't recognize it. maybe this year...
@stephenluna7932
@stephenluna7932 3 года назад
Very cool to see
@mcgeebag1
@mcgeebag1 3 года назад
This is probably a stupid question but I'll ask anyway: My season is very short so I struggle to ripen apple's that are generally considered mid season, (and I have no chance of ripening late season apples). Is there any point in keeping the apple's on the tree after most of the leafs haven fallen off (is the tree still pumping sugars or nutrients into the apple )?. Should I just pick them and put them in storage once the leafs have fallen? Thanks
@projectmalus
@projectmalus 3 года назад
Depends on how cold your storage is.
@georgekubrick3134
@georgekubrick3134 3 года назад
I've got some of your assorted op and wickson op seeds on their way. My plan is to label each plant keep good records. Would you like me to email you the data I get from my skillcult produced seedlings? Getting the cart ahead of the horse, but would you like labeled scions from the trial? I'm going to order some more wickson op seeds for my trial tonight ( I might as well have a full starting tray ).
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
For sure I want to hear back about results and try the best stuff people produce. That is going to be fun! It's going to get crazy. I've sent out so many seeds and people are saving their own too and breeding stuff. I'm shipping stuff tomorrow. I might be able to get your new order in the mail with the previous one.
@georgekubrick3134
@georgekubrick3134 3 года назад
@@SkillCult Yeah, sorry about ordering twice. I get to watching videos and and decide I need more stuff. I did my first grafting today with some scions I got from etsy. I had a couple failing 6 or 7 year old trees I reworked. I guess time will tell if I paid attention to your videos.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
@@georgekubrick3134 No problem. If I dont' get it out tomorrow, part two will go next week sometime.
@ym160
@ym160 3 года назад
That poop flavored cider apple could be called a shite-er apple
@projectmalus
@projectmalus 3 года назад
I quite liked the taste of my Kingston Black tree's first offerings, the great eating qualities surprised me. I don't remember there being too much tannin, but it's a crisp, sweet enough one that you can taste the kind of great cider it would make, in the fresh fruit. Pink Rubber...great name!
@TheZigZiggy
@TheZigZiggy 3 года назад
"Tastes like poop. Let's try that again!" LOL 😱
@TJHutchExotics
@TJHutchExotics 3 года назад
😂 would you like to taste this apple? It’s called “poop cider”. Why did I name it that? Take a bite.. 😂😂
@HomerEscobar1
@HomerEscobar1 3 года назад
Hey bud, love your content! I found you a few months ago playing with axes. Super stoked to find your channel, you have been doing all the other things I am interested in as well.
@KevinsDisobedience
@KevinsDisobedience 3 года назад
Do you color correct your clips? The color, especially the blue sky, looks rich, crisp and vibrant!
@mdl17576
@mdl17576 3 года назад
The widespread lack of red flesh this year is interesting. Seems like the only two things that really vary from year to year are temps and precipitation. Were either of those markedly different from last year or just chalk it up to 2020? While the breeding of high quality red fleshed dessert apples is your main objective, it is a fortunate unintended consequence that a number of promising cider apples are coming out of your efforts. Relative to dessert apples, there aren't that many great American cider apples, and given the booming popularity of hard cider, it's a category where you could definitely have a big impact. As a big cider enthusiast myself, I'm looking forward to growing and drinking the varieties you put out there and giving feedback. Thanks for updating on Sugarwood too, since I was lucky enough to get some of your scionwood in Spring 2020. Thanks for doing what you do and documenting the journey for us all.
@waynoinsaneo
@waynoinsaneo 3 года назад
I would be really interested in the grape apple
@666Necropsy
@666Necropsy 3 года назад
who wouldnt :)
@jeremybyington
@jeremybyington 3 года назад
@SkillCult Have you ever tried cincturing any of the trees in your test orchard to get them to fruit sooner? There was a lab test done on tomato plants that was reported a few months ago where they grafted a ton of seedlings to stress them out and then took cuttings and grafted those and found that some of them (I think it was 25%) would “remember” the stress (expressed through a change in a particular gene) that would cause it to fruit more prolific. You can experiment on your poop apple. The downside is you will have dozens of poop apple offspring, but if it works you can name it Prolific Pooper. Ohhhhh, I bet your Golden Russet tree has been through enough stress already to give you a head start. 😂
@tj21bem
@tj21bem 3 года назад
When it comes to apples, I think you’re spoiled. So when you say the flavor is boring, it must be as good as the best I can get from the grocery store. When you say, “Promising”, I get excited. When you say, “Wow!” or “Intense”, I get covetous. You munch, I count. If you take 3 bites-I want. Thank you for sharing your vids.
@WimsMill
@WimsMill 3 года назад
Banana! Haha, this year it's the year of banana taste in apples. Next year it will be pineapple ;-) We make juice and cider and every time we pressed this year, it was banana. To preserve the taste of the apple, you could ferment it some amount of time on the pulp. Or let it sit for a day on the pulp before pressing. The yeast is also important. Some make it better, other worse... To bad we are at the other side of the water, otherwise I would love to trial these apples in ciders. As for the old equipment, it is generally better at pressing clearer juice. Modern equipment often goes really fast and needs extensive filtering not to end up with a sludge. Keep up the work!
@BeardedSkunk
@BeardedSkunk 3 года назад
Dishwater 😂
@Aermydach
@Aermydach 3 года назад
As someone that has studied sensory analysis of wines at uni and is interested in cidermaking, I greatly appreciate you running through the tasting of your apple trials. Sounds to me like you're developing some really interesting varieties! I'm keen to see how they hold up following fermentation and maturation.
@ts694
@ts694 3 года назад
I want to know how you figured out what poop tastes like!
@TJHutchExotics
@TJHutchExotics 3 года назад
Interesting project you have going there, thanks for sharing. The slow-mo of “can you see how squishy it is?” Made me spit out my coffee, I laughed so hard. 😂
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
You can see it though right! :)
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
I should have cut in some like 70's wah wah porn music for that lol. well, next time...
@TJHutchExotics
@TJHutchExotics 3 года назад
@@SkillCult wow chicka wow wow 🤣
@TJHutchExotics
@TJHutchExotics 3 года назад
@@SkillCult yep!
@mordyfisher4269
@mordyfisher4269 3 года назад
Does anybody know if all the seeds within an apple are identical to each other? I know that they are different from the parent plant but i am unsure of if the seeds of an apple seperate from one polination site or if there are multiple polination sites that each produce a seed within the apple.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 3 года назад
They should all be different. I don't know if maybe identical twins occur or not, but it is rare if so. And they can also be from multiple parents.f I'm not sure if each apple cell has to be the same parent or not, but in theory, at least each cell. I'm sure that information is available somewhere, but I think it's safe to assume that there can be multiple parents and that each seed will be unique regardless.
@MrChickadee
@MrChickadee 3 года назад
Pump up da flavor, pump, pump it up...
@DagothChad
@DagothChad 3 года назад
Pumpers like to pump pumpers need pumping let's pumper!
@RadioRoxx.FM_90.1FM
@RadioRoxx.FM_90.1FM 3 года назад
Could You send me a couple of grafting buds of sugarwood in Europe?
@elkhound25
@elkhound25 3 года назад
mystery pink would be a catchy name. like always thanks for all you do.
@jim8577
@jim8577 3 года назад
Always great to see the taste tests.
@ianlang9312
@ianlang9312 3 года назад
I'd love to get my hands on some of your cider apples! Are you planning on selling seeds this year?
@BadgerBishop
@BadgerBishop 3 года назад
Same, I'm planning to plant a couple trees and I have a brewing habit.
@Aermydach
@Aermydach 3 года назад
There were a couple he pegged for putting up on the webstore. Mayhaps watch the vid again and take note of the potential cider varieties?
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