@@fatimapalacios2292, the narrative that Guns N' Roses are considered a great band on behalf of one album is inaccurate. While Appetite for Destruction is the best-selling debut album of all time, one of the best-selling albums of all time, and most notably, one of the most loved albums of all time, it isn't their only international hit iconic album. Their Use Your Illusion albums had contemporaneously debuted on many charts in first and second positions and maintained them for long periods of time, bumping down Michael Jackson's albums, and the Use Your Illusion Tour is one of the most extensive stadium tours in history. It had drastically elevated Metallica's sales of Metallica, The Black Album, and established Metallica as one of the most successful bands in the world, and after it, Appetite for Destruction has still long sold more copies than Metallica has, and the Use Your Illusions have sold more copies each than all other Metallica albums have, including Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All. Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II have eight singles between them which are played daily all over the world, November Rain, Don't Cry, Knockin' on Heaven's Door, You Could Be Mine, Live and Let Die, Civil War, and Estranged, which are massive fan favorites, and Yesterdays, and there are at least a dozen other songs on them which are generally well-loved, as many generally well-loved songs as are on Appetite for Destruction. Appetite for Destruction is exceptional, but for anyone who's listened to Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II beyond skimming them, they're as important in Guns N' Roses' discography as Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All are in Metallica's discography, if not much more important for diversity which they provide musically. Guns N' Roses are considered a great band for three albums, and most listeners who haven't heard two of them in the past thirty years should hear them. This isn't to mention how excellent of an EP GN'R Lies is, and everything which Guns N' Roses have released after 1993 is also worth hearing, even if it won't be impressive to everyone. These artists earn their success.
@@leerobbo92, Metallica will always be immensely successful, because their legacy had been fully cemented by their first five albums, especially Metallica. Fans love them for their overall sounds, it doesn't matter that many prefer their first four albums as more of their albums are released, many want to hear more songs of theirs, and these won't change. Their debuts at #1 will increase until they're very long gone. They'll never stop, they'll never quit, 'cause they're Metallica!!! 🤟🏼
@@chrismeadows4216 those use your illusion songs were written at the same time as the others in appetite. If anything use your illusion is an album with outtakes. Not denying the success, I love guns and roses but seems like the inspiration was really there just on the 80s
It really surprises me that Avenged Sevenfold is so low in google popularity. They have one of the most homer filled fan bases ever and they’re extremely accessible to non metalheads. While I agree that their popularity is waning,I figured they’d still be one of the more popular metal bands.
As a A7X fan, the past 2 years have been pretty quiet in terms of news. But I think the major reason could be that A7X fans are a very vocal minority? Not sure honestly.
They're high by modern metal band standards, but IIRC their album's debut weekly sales are usually not that much higher than Metallica's Black Album sales are every single week, 30 years after its release. They're not even in the same stratosphere.
What blows my mind is when you look at Facebook page likes, Linkin Park blows every band away with 59+ million likes. Even the Beatles (39+ million) and Metallica (35+ million) don't have quite that many likes on their official band page. Not that it's really important but I always found that kind of odd/interesting.
I'll tell you why, its the Indian/Asian teenagers. I don't listen to their stuff anymore that much (not that i don't like it or think it's cringe or anything, I've discovered other bands that i like more), but they did introduce me to metal. And I'm sure a lot of other young Indians are/were into those nu metal bands as their music is more friendly(?) to someone who's just discovering metal.
I mean Linkin Park was always really popular because their music was a mix of genres and was played on like every kind of radio station. And Everyone liked it, I dont think I ever heard anyone say they dont like LP. That being said, I'm not crazy about their stuff after the first 2 albums, but it sells.
Yes.....Slipknot is very popular band in the Metal community but....at least metal is still being noticed! Usually Pop music listeners say " Metal is dead! " but when they see Slipknot's new album...they will know that metal still exist!
"Nocny Kochanek", the musical group that came up, when you searched for Avenged Sevenfold, is a Polish heavy metal parody band. Their lyrics are hilarious, but the music is nothing special, unless you actually understand what they are singing about.
@@randomdudeontheinternet4389 They are generally a laughing-stock in metal community here and most of their audience wouldn't even be able to name a single Judas Priest or Iron Maiden song if you asked them.
@@BecomeTheKnight I enjoyed the video though, Doing my own digging now. Interestingly enough The Beatles are lower than Metallica and Gn'R which is surprising despite their age.
@Will G1986 Actually I don't mind Ghost or Megadeth... Ghost however, have brand new crispy sound... Not really original though. This is music ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-urU5JS4Eb-k.html , ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rEuMAqfuCrI.html , ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vS7X5nuvjHo.html , ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YCqG9B8j-cI.html
As much as I love Linkin Park, and they are probably my biggest musical influence, I do consider them mainly an alternate rock band. They do have some metal tracks though, however they also have released many albums that aren't quite nearly as close to metal as others. (One More Light is the prime example). One thing is that Linkin Park did become less popular around 2006-7 from switching their music and experimenting with it in Minutes To Midnight, but you can't compare them to the other bands earlier due to there being no google trends. But the same could be said for many bands, especially Metallica and Black Sabbath being as old of bands as they are, I'm sure their search trends if it was around say in the 80's would be marginally larger. But in my own opinion, you can't really compare bands based on these trends, but more on their influence to people, because they are all from different times and had different peaks.
@@wolfiewylde5143 Love Fair to Midland. Saw them here in Michigan at the Intersection 10+ years ago. Darroh was nuts. He was climbing in the rafters...while singing his ass off. Good band...wish they were still around.
When I started watching your videos I was annoyed about how cynical you were about alot of bands/ songs etc but your content over the last month has been heaps more fun and light hearted to me and I just wanted to say big thumbs up brother!
Hi Mike at 18:50 Nocny Kochanek is a Polish heavy metal band that satirize the stereotypical behavior of the metalheads subculture in Poland and laughs at the mentality of Janusz and Grazyna (in Polish culture of memes is an archetype of man and woman with mentality of boomer) definitely worth listening to for the music itself. The influences on their music have bands like: Iron Maiden Blind Guardian Dragon Force Manowar Black sabbath Kat(in Polish it means executioner) A7X etc.
Hi mike ! Kat is an absolute killer! I recommended to you some tracks: Odi profanum vulgus, głos z ciemności, zawieszony sznur. They’re heavy metal pioniers and number 1 in the genere in my country in my opinion. Enjoy this stuff \m/
@@MJ-hh3dn I Prayed to satan that he did not see new Kat's music because Luczyk sucks nowadays. I Prefer Kat & Roman Kostrzewski. Because Kat is Roman. Tak w ogole to dobre rekomendacje :)
This is such a weird way to determine the most popular bands (what the website used).. I would have just gone for either total sales or to determine which are currently the most popular maybe streaming numbers
"- What are you talkin' about, baseball is a girl's game? The Red Sox has a guy that pitches the ball over 90 miles per hour! - Who cares? All that means is that he can have a wank faster than you".
Thank you for reminding me to listen to Fair to Midland every once in a while. What a band. Saw them here in Australia with Twelve Foot Ninja a few years back! Damn, what a show!
I just found out that you could type out "band" after a band name to maybe get the result to pop in the Google trend search. There still wasn't anything for Slayer or Tool unfortunately, but it does pop the result for Pantera. Funny thing is even Queen doesn't initially pop because it's such a vague word, but once you but "Queen band" it's definitely there.
Seeing Fair to Midland pop up was pretty amazing. One of the most under rated bands of all time. I can only imagine the impact they would have made if they never broke up.
Id be curious to see a weighting of these google trends (new fans/outsiders) alongside something like spotify listens (established listeners) for a more complete image. I love Dio and listen to him regularly, but i don't know the last time I searched his name, the best chance of him coming up in google would be someone covering him which I havent heard since Killswitch Engage in 2006. Same with GWAR after Brockie died, theres not a whole lot that can bump them out of their more niche fandom.
For sure! I'm not sure how I'd weight it, and I'm not sure where to find stream data for bands other than monthly listeners, but that would paint a very different picture!
@@BecomeTheKnight Im not sure if the data exists, but if you could overlay google searches with monthly listeners over the same time period, you might get a sense of a group's potential market penetration with their popular appeal/accessibility. A huge spike like Lemmy's passing probably brought a bunch of people to Motorheads music for the first time, but since as you mention they are a metalheads metal band their monthly listeners probably eventually reverted back to the equilibrium. Something like a new album from Slipknot probably gave them an appreciable bump in listenership after the google search spike. Trapt is probably having a huge search term spike the past few weeks, then as people take Headstrong off their workout playlists the listener number might go down. From that jump, rate of decline, and any resulting equilibrium change youd see: - Possible market impact and mass media relevance by relating a search spike to a listening spike - The half life of the listener number decay gives you the popular accessibility of the band as people hearing it for the first time drop off - Any statistically significant permanent change in listenership indicates new fans of the music who discovered it/changed their listening as a result of their google search. Youve combined two of my favorite things here, metal music and statistics...
Dang, I thought my beloved Deicide would make the cut. Just before I turned 14, I wrote them a letter and asked them to play at my birthday party. They wrote back and said "only if we can sacrifice your friends to goat lord when it's over. Happy Birthday, killer." They sent me 3 t-shirts and some guitar picks. Apparently they don't play children's parties.
Most searched =/= Most popular. I mean, wouldn't album sales/ticket sales be the proper metric for judging that? This was super interesting either way though.
17:17 Yeah I think when we see the spikes for Guns N Roses ans Motörhead it's less of an indicator of how many people like those bands and more of an indicator of their cultural significance. If someone is a fan if Motörhead they aren't gonna be Googling it every day, because they already know the band and probably have the CDs and records already. But something significant happens, their impact is gonna show as everyone flocks to see if the news is true, and then people who are unaware of what's going on will want to find out.
You should compare Metallica to Post Malone and some mega pop stars like Taylor Swift? Also, look at monthly listeners on Spotify. I feel that would be a better depiction of popularity.
I would not consider Linkin Park a metal band. I’ve listened to every single song from them except maybe some obscure B-side I haven’t heard yet. The majority of the music they’ve made is in non metal genres. Mainly in the broad genre of rock (subgenres such as electronic rock,punk rock,alternative rock,and hard rock). You could argue for it because their most popular music is their nu metal stuff,but still they’re not a metal band by the actual numbers in their discography.
I would save Given Up, QWERTY and others were more Alternative Metal. Still fun to see that Chester's last song was full on metal with Mark Morton (Lamb of God guitarist) with Trivium bassist Paolo Gregoletto and drummer Alex Bent.
Great video, Mike! I thought you were very insightful. I'm honestly kinda shocked that Megadeth, Guns n Roses, Ronnie James Dio, Black Sabbath, and IRON MAIDEN!!! Of all people are below Metallica granted, we shouldn't really be surprised either. Still, I would think that legends like Dio, Maiden, Sabbath, and Lemmy would be higher than Metallica considering their impact on metal music before Metallica burst into the thrash metal scene. I apologize if this makes me sound like an annoying grandma preaching about good music from the good ole' days. It's just that I would've never thought that Maiden, Dio, Sabbath, and Lemmy would be below Metallica. I understand that this is just a joke and it's only for fun:)
Plugging in some random (rock/metal) popular staplles that might verge on resembing metal. Alice in Chains had 3, Godsmack had 1, Papa Roach had 2, all well below. Judas Priest which i thought might have been unfairly overlooked grabbed a 3 as well. A Perfect Circle (which does come up) is also a dismal 1. Bring Me the Horizon actually manages a 6 (though primarily only contests the Slipknot/Maiden barrier in the first year of reporting) In odder choices, The Hu (though not particularly metal outside of a couple of songs) manage a 2. Doesn't scrape the top 4 of course, but kind of interesting because that beats/matches a whole slew of what we'd think of as more popular rock/metal bands.
I personally consider Guns N Roses hard rock. I’d be curious what your explanation why you think they’re metal is though. Personally they have metal influence but are more similar to Van Halen and AC/DC than Judas Priest or Iron Maiden
Mike is forgetting about how popular the merchandise for metallica and maiden are, most of those searches are probably from people who have never heard their songs
technically and specification wise it has to be Metallica. They've outsold, outclassed, outwon, whatever you want to call it. You may not like them, but they are the best selling, biggest, most popular Metal band of all time!
I understand what you were going for, however, a better video would have been establishing Metallica and GNR as top acts and then removing and comparting the rest of the bands to say Iron Maiden or Slipknot. The y-axis is distorted because those two bands are so huge that there may be differences you see once you can get finer details. If there was a big event (like Lemmy's death) the y-axis would adjust accordingly showing that it was an isolated event and not a trend of data.
Musically, I would say Tool would be than Floyd and Zeppelin, but then I would say Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree and Opeth are far more versatile in their musicianship than Tool, and these bands release at least three albums between Tool's long and frequent hiatus. Popularity wise, oh hell no.