Commentators talking bollocks. He clearly chipped the keeper, if he was going to give it back, he would have played it back on the ground. Shocking......
+Reezeyy no way you would be stopping that goal he clearly chipped ball out of reach of the keeper not only did he chip it he aimed for far the corner of the goal lool one guy got fined for doing this.
As a Guiseley season ticket holder I am utterly ashamed of this. I like to see the game played fairly. Win lose or draw. We should allowed Braintree to score back
I don't get people blaming the keeper no one is stopping that unless you were on the line. The keeper was expecting the ball to be played to sides like we normally see.
Norburn overhits it (perhaps unintentionally, perhaps not). You can see the keeper's reaction with his hands is like 'WTF?' Even if the keeper had run back, I doubt he would have saved it because it bounced on the goal line. When it goes in, Norburn celebrates, which is totally against the spirit of the game and proof that his was not a sporting gesture but, in fact, a devious one. Were it not, there would have been no question and Guiseley would have allowed Braintree to walk the ball in.
Watching it in slow motion, to me it looks like he scored the goal on purpose. The keeper was way off his line and it didn't need that much power in the pass. His foot went through it as if he was aiming it to go to the left and into the goal. Could've just passed it along the ground or at a lower height to the keeper. Really poor sportsmanship
This is an absolute disgrace... Ref was totally right to give the goal, he had no choice. But no matter what happened, if it was deliberate or not, Braintree should be given a goal. Disgraceful.
Shocking lack of sportsmanship by Guiseley. The ref had to give the goal but the player didn't need to aim for the goal and he didn't need to lift the ball when he could have passed the ball on the floor, made even worse by the fact he celebrated scoring.
Horrible situation for the officials! As a referee myself, this is what nightmares are made of. Could have been sorted in 30 seconds if the players would have acted like grown ups!
This happened at Grays a few seasons back when the ball was played back to the Grays keeper. The Woking manager (Frank Gray) told his players to allow Grays to score a 'free goal' which is what happened. Game was held up for about 30 seconds with a minimum of fuss and Frank Gray got a standing ovation for his sportsmanship.
+grahamben97 he knew that he should have been passing it back to the keeper. Look at the way he leathers the ball and the height he gets on it, if he was actually passing it to the keeper there was no need to hoof it like that. Have you ever watched football?
Ed Markwick Leathers the ball? Haha That's what you consider leathering the ball? There was hardly any power on that, he floated it slightly. As I previously said and you chose to ignore, have you never seen a goal that bounced off of someone and went in? If you have then you'd know that they celebrate. A goal is a goal intentional or not so therefore they celebrate.
grahamben97 Not leathering it in the sense of power, but he put far more pace and height on it than eh needed to. I ignored your previous point because it was completely irrelevant. He knew that he had to pass it back to the keeper but he didn't, that's why him celebrating doing what he did was unnecessary...also note how no one else celebrated.
The referee had to give the goal, there was nothing 'wrong' with it, although he could have cautioned the player for unsporting behaviour which is a yellow card offence. Of course, he could have claimed it was a foul throw or something, but that is clutching at straws. Additionally, whilst he can suggest that Guiseley allow Braintree to score(to me it looked like a shot, not a pass, and he celebrated), a referee can only 'suggest' sporting acts like this or putting the ball out of play, not enforce. That said, it was incredibly unsporting, and both sets of coaches should have got sent to the stands for encroaching onto the pitch and physically laying hands on the referee....
After watching the whole video these commentators are the most biased people I have ever heard, sorry in the world of football the right thing to do is award the team with a goal, you guys just cheated your way into a point because you are low down in the league
Why was the shot aimed at the goal? Really not in the spirit of fair play, was it. Guess that doesn't matter nowadays, does it! Shame on you, Guiseley!!
The question here isn't if it is a goal or not, because it is a goal, the Ref cannot disallow it. The question is about a matter of sportsmanship !!. Why did Guiseley not just let Braintree walk the ball in from the kick off ?. I heard on the radio today that the Guiseley manager has come out and defended his team saying it was a perfectly good goal and should stand. Poor show from Guiseley
no keeper was going to get that.. he was on the edge of the box.. and the other player lobbed him, or pinged it over the top of the keeper when he was expecting it to come to feet, why should a keeper have to sprint backwards to stop a pass back from going in.. biased commentators.
not even manuel neuer or david de gea would have saved that. Blame the guy who quite intentionally had a shot at goal when he was meant to turn over possession.
Wow Guiseley and their manager should be totally ashamed. The commentators are also completely deluded or oblivious. Ok the goal has to be given, no doubt about it. So it's upto Guiseley to put it right and allow Braintree to rightfully reclaim their lead. Classless scenes. The fact the manager of Guiseley has actually defend their disgusting actions says it all. Club with no class. Well done to Braintree Town FC Players and staff for keeping their composure and class.
The only thing questionable about this would be that the white team didnt allow the orange team to score a goal after...its not disgraceful or bad sportmanship from the white team for that goal because the player didn't shoot the ball and it's just an accidental goal. The keeper sees that the player over hits the pass from a long way off (him waving his arms out implies this) and just lets it go in by standing there for that split second. Again, the pass was directed at the keeper, not like he was aiming for a Charlie Adam goal.
+Andy Chan I agree with you, but I think the white team's argument is that the keeper could have got to the ball (which I think is untrue) so therefore they didn't think they had to concede a goal because of his mistake.
When Ajax scored this kind of goal, they allowed the opposite team to get to their box and score one in return, unopposed. That's what sportmanship is.
That almost happend in the 2010 World Cup final between Spain and the Netherlands where the Spanish keeper was only just able to turn it over the bar which gave Netherlands a corner but they simply passed it back to cacias
Similar thing happened in my under 16s A league in northern Scotland(obviously) when my mate got injured we did I drop ball I was supposed to pass it back hit it way to hard and it bounced of the bar and went in , of course I ended up with a broken nose and now have a good way to pick up burds so all in all a win win
I guess you have to give him the goal. He aimed towards the keeper 'in sportsmanship' but the keeper was far off his line and perhaps should have been ready to collect it. At the same time the player could have kicked it off the pitch. The rules are quite vague on the subject.
The goal should stand. The ref should have then advised the Guiseley captain that Braintree should be allowed to walk the ball into the net. Guiseley should have done just that. Poor sportsmanship by Guiseley for not doing so.
it is not a disgrace at all. they can do whatever they want to with the ball. they did not have to pass it back to the opposition, but did do the goal stands as it is in normal play
The ball back was a bit cheeky. Normally these backpasses are hit along the ground or hit to the side of the goal. This shot had a lot of air on it... couldn't blame the keeper here.
The players and management of Guiseley Football Club should be ashamed of themselves. Perhaps the rules should change so that the ref can deem incidents like this as ungentlemanly behaviour.
Should stand as a goal and other team shouldn't give them a goal in my eyes. Keeper should have moved to get it but instead stood like a lazy kid in the park when a pass goes a meter away. Good reffing.
Seen this happen before, other team walked a goal in - correct decision This is shameful. And commentator's opinion is bollocks, the player shot to score / lob it over, otherwise it would have been side-footed across the floor
its a goal .... as there is no rule that stipulates you have to give the ball back ...its just sportsmanship ... ive seen abroad that if such incident like this as happend ...the team that scoes , deliberatly lets the oppersition score .... but its up to the team..... imagine if any side you support where 0 - 0 in 93rd min and you scored in the same circumstances .... OBVIOUSLY YOUD WANT IT DISALLOWED....;-)
I don't feel that the iron were sensible about this situation. But the conduct from the Norbern player was pretty poor. Looked an attempt on goal to me..
There's a mixture of replies about it being bad sportsmanship and some saying there's nothing wrong and the keeper was just being lazy but I was there and from behind the goal at the other end Tom King (The keeper), wasn't just off his line he wasn't even in front of goal. He was waiting for the pass back and it didn't come, the guy had a shot! Then Guiseley's manager told the players not to walk it through afterwards!
remember the good old days when 2 teams were at war for 90minutes, non of this fair play bollocks. Coach trying to get his players to walk off the pitch, How embarrassing that's Sunday league level. Hope he gets fined for that
I don't know why the referee is discussing the incident with the players or club officials, since it's at his sole discretion to decide whether the ball was in play when the Guiseley player kicked the ball toward the Braintree goalkeeper. The conduct of the clubs officials was disgusting and it's time that referees decisions are without question respected notwithstanding that their decisions might occasionally be wrong. The opinions of the players, club officials and indeed commentators are irrelevant therefore lets hear less of it.
+Rhysimus That's the plan :D This guy is clearly being unfair with his reasoning for the goal keeper, so if I tell him to react and he does it.... HE WILL BE RIP MONEY. It's all about the psychological games here.
+Rhysimus That's the plan :D This guy is clearly being unfair with his reasoning for the goal keeper, so if I tell him to react and he does it.... HE WILL BE RIP MONEY. It's all about the psychological games here.
