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Mother detained on TTC bus because daughter was sleeping in stroller 

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The Toronto Transit Commission has apologized to an Etobicoke mother a week after she and her four-year-old daughter were detained on a bus when the driver suggested something might be wrong with the little girl.
Rebecca Clements was pushing her daughter in a stroller, when the driver asked to see the little girl. When she complied, the TTC employee told the mother to stay aboard the bus and blocked their exit.
Following a complaint to the TTC by Clements, TTC officials told Global News the bus driver was “concerned about the well-being of what appeared to be an unresponsive child.”
“I’m on alert. I’m nervous when I’m on the bus now, and I never used to be,” Clements said following the incident. Global’s Sean O’Shea has the story.
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@MrUranium238
@MrUranium238 Год назад
What right does the bus driver have to hold someone hostage? I would immediately seek an attorney.
@kandik7641
@kandik7641 Год назад
You can make a citizen arrest if you feel something is wrong with a child. You'd probably be angry if she was riding the bus with a dead child.
@Ont785
@Ont785 Год назад
@@kandik7641 Good luck with that… You don’t have any right to restrain anyone. You call the police. “Citizen arrest” lmao
@Odin6900
@Odin6900 Год назад
​​@@kandik7641u can make a citizen's arrest, but you better know what you are going, because you will be the one committing a felony.😂
@davidfoster3427
@davidfoster3427 Год назад
None, observe and report. Why is this not at least on alternate duties.
@robertadams8192
@robertadams8192 Год назад
Anyone can, under the right circumstances, make a citizens arrest in Ontario. But you need to be extremely careful because you can only make a citizens arrest if you have a reasonable belief that a felony is or has been committed. And two things, which this driver didn't do, is you have to let the person know you are making a citizens arrest and you have to tell them your reason for doing so. Plus you can not force the arrest (which I think trapping someone on the bus against their will might be considered force ... a type of hostage taking). You are also required, by law, to contact the police asap and it sounds to me like the driver may have only contacted their supervisor. If this is TTC policy on how drivers are to respond it is inadequate, and possibly illegal, as policy does not supersede the law. The driver meant well but TTC training in this matter sucks. If she had actually been someone who was harming the child she might have reacted by harming the driver or another passenger. Plus holding someone for half an hour was unreasonable. BTW, making an unjustified citizens arrest can result in a law suit.
@osmosis321
@osmosis321 Год назад
At the very least, they should reassign this driver to another route. Imagine going through that and being stuck taking the bus with the same driver who held you hostage.
@osmosis321
@osmosis321 Год назад
@@sessions9869 I doubt the union would allow it.
@divasmith3570
@divasmith3570 Год назад
Sue
@bruins7708
@bruins7708 Год назад
He legally has no right to hold her there if there is nothing wrong,he can call police and report he thinks there's a problem but to hold someone for doing nothing illegal is grounds for illegal detainment and a lawsuit
@andrew20146
@andrew20146 Год назад
Sounds like a false imprisonment case.
@Odin6900
@Odin6900 Год назад
Illegal detainment. If you do that to someone in your home or at a business....thats a crime. Lawsuit time
@Milanfan-g3w
@Milanfan-g3w Год назад
Outrageous what people think they can do in this day and age!! No excuse!
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Год назад
Bossiness, nosiness, self-righteousness, meddling and policing other people's actions have skyrocketed to levels not seen since the the Cultural Revolution or the Puritans.
@Herman992113
@Herman992113 Год назад
I would like to hear the driver side of the story as well.
@evelyngott2056
@evelyngott2056 Год назад
Sue them for false imprisonment. He held them against their will.
@kandik7641
@kandik7641 Год назад
You'd probably want him sued if she was riding the bus with a dead child.
@evelyngott2056
@evelyngott2056 Год назад
@@kandik7641 her daughter was asleep. Why didn't the bus driver ask the mother to wake the kid up. Guess he was too stupid to think of that, but then it doesn't take a lot of brains to be a bus driver does it.
@elinebrock5660
@elinebrock5660 Год назад
​​@@evelyngott2056this is the reason not everyone is a brain surgeon. The bis driver seems to need one, though.
@Vicki1930
@Vicki1930 Год назад
​@kandik7641 In Canada suing people isn't a way of life the way it seems to be in the US.
@kandik7641
@kandik7641 Год назад
@@evelyngott2056 maybe because if the mother had done something to the child she could turn violent. It's so disgusting to call someone out for being stupid because of the job they have. No doubt you're the type to call a Starbucks employee stupid while getting your latte there. Bus drivers are trained to call their supervisors if they suspect something and not handle it themselves because bus drivers get assaulted everyday. If she had smothered or drugged her child, how do you suppose it would have gone down if he'd confronted her?
@rottenrabbit
@rottenrabbit Год назад
Dumbing down of the population showcased perfectly here.
@Ont785
@Ont785 Год назад
Didn’t realize bus drivers had restraint powers….
@BOZKESH
@BOZKESH Год назад
They don't
@Ont785
@Ont785 Год назад
@@BOZKESH Speaking sarcastically ….😉
@Jasonsmith-sr1ke
@Jasonsmith-sr1ke Год назад
Slow news day huh?
@madbradmadbrad
@madbradmadbrad Год назад
So this paragon of society decides the child is unresponsive, claims to be concerned, and proceeds to nothing to help her but make all involved wait a half hour for cops?
@Brownsugarenergy
@Brownsugarenergy 10 месяцев назад
There's definitely more to this story
@Millefiori369
@Millefiori369 Год назад
Theres going to be a spike in violence against bus driver because of this
@twstdpeppermnt9128
@twstdpeppermnt9128 Год назад
People need to start minding their own business. This is getting out of hand. Do they want to know when we go to the bathroom too?
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 Год назад
Yeah. Just the other day a grandpa was complaining about the same thing to me.
@samsaarahgjhg1458
@samsaarahgjhg1458 Год назад
VERY FUNNY. I was assault on ttc and supervisors came and saw the attackers and never did anything to block them from leaving! That is Canada for you!
@sunnydelight5255
@sunnydelight5255 Год назад
She’s right. He could’ve simply asked her to check the child. A silly man. But it is a very minor incident. Doesn’t warrant being afraid or a news report. Just go back on the bus and move on from it.
@KILLCOLONIALISM
@KILLCOLONIALISM Год назад
So you think crimes are not news worthy?
@jayess6219
@jayess6219 Год назад
Someone holding you and your child hostage is minor? Got it 👍
@wintertarzanjagrup2527
@wintertarzanjagrup2527 3 месяца назад
Thats not his business
@erikfriesen1098
@erikfriesen1098 Год назад
Why is the world so messed up when people who comment on youtube have ALL THE ANSWERS?
@MidnightFallz14
@MidnightFallz14 Год назад
So did the driver told the mother the reason why she was not able to get off the bus?
@knowmenomo
@knowmenomo Год назад
The more I see and hear what is happening in Toronto the more im glad I dont have to live there.
@JohnDoe-xv1se
@JohnDoe-xv1se Год назад
Bull. That driver should be removed from dealing with the public. He obviously knows nothing about children, was beyond irresponsible, and was power tripping. To pretend he was "concerned'" for the child is a stretch. As the mom said, she could have woke her child if he had expressed his concerns to her, rather than call the cops on her for nothing. She is the mother after all. Get rid of him before he does something even stupider.
@ravenbaa7989
@ravenbaa7989 5 месяцев назад
That kid was too big for the stroller she can walk should just fold it up entitled mother
@landon1626
@landon1626 Год назад
Who the fk does he think he is? Should be charged for forcible confinement and arrested and definetly FIRED! She should sue as well.
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Год назад
I think he should undergo a psychiatric assessment as a condition of continued employment. Not kidding at all.
@shari9721
@shari9721 Год назад
If the daughter is talking about it then obviously she woke up at some point while the driver was holding them hostage so when that happened why didnt the driver just explain why he had been concerned , apologize , let them go and then explain what he had done to his supervisor and the police when they arrive ? smdh
@brettfavreify
@brettfavreify Год назад
Rebecca, move to a small community. People in Toronto are nuts.
@fanglu1623
@fanglu1623 Год назад
Some TTC drivers are very rude and ridiculous. Last month, one ttc driver rejected me getting on the bus and said"one bus can only take one stroller"nonsense. I didn't follow her so I got on the bus. Once I got on the bus, she told me"if you don't get off the bus, the bus won't move". She was not even the driver that day. But the driver was just the same as her. They really stopped the bus and asked everyone to get off the bus. They wasted everyone at least 15 minutes just because the woman's big ego and foolishness. Complaints to TTC is just a waste of time. They defend the drivers. When I showed the bus condition picture to the supervisor to prove the bus wasn't even crowded, they raised some new excuse asking me if I stood behind the white line which has nothing to do with the incident, and it's not even the cause. 😂 TTC will use "safety first" approach as a weapon to cover the drivers' misconduct. 😂
@DaGoyDidGood
@DaGoyDidGood Год назад
? Drama queen. Driver must have been concerned, for whatever undisclosed reason, and as a upstanding citizen, was inclined to raise an alarm…end off…
@jayess6219
@jayess6219 Год назад
Driver must have been high or drunk or both
@timwhite8878
@timwhite8878 Год назад
I do not see any thing driver did wrong.He just wanted make sure kid is ok.
@Jditditsk
@Jditditsk Год назад
🤡
@Glubtubis_Wepal69
@Glubtubis_Wepal69 Год назад
explain it to deez nutz
@prp3858
@prp3858 Год назад
What in the world is happening in Canada!😮
@wjkwjk3484
@wjkwjk3484 Год назад
I think the driver just wanted to make sure the child was safe and okay. I do not see any problem here....from James Bond0007
@redpillbulgaria-v2.063
@redpillbulgaria-v2.063 Год назад
Or he was a creep & a pervert ...
@wjkwjk3484
@wjkwjk3484 Год назад
@@redpillbulgaria-v2.063 I do not think so Mr. redpillbulgaria. You watch too much movies.
@margaretr5701
@margaretr5701 Год назад
@@redpillbulgaria-v2.063 I question, pervert?
@aprilsflower1622
@aprilsflower1622 Год назад
There is no way on this earth, a bus driver is going to tell me to, to show him or her my kids, ask any questions about my kid, unless its an age question and that's only for bus fare. To tell me I cant get off the bus, I have every right to physically protect my child and myself.
@TheGoddessBast
@TheGoddessBast Год назад
What? The? F*ck???
@joemadden4160
@joemadden4160 Год назад
So glad I bought a car😁
@jb-xc4oh
@jb-xc4oh Год назад
Public transportation sucks big time......I wouldn't use it even if you paid me..,!!
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Год назад
A simple lawsuit will do wonders to provide for the baby's post-secondary education. Get a good lawyer or two.
@bjgonzalespovs8164
@bjgonzalespovs8164 3 месяца назад
there's a lot of TTC bus drivers who are LooooOOOWWWW
@jayess6219
@jayess6219 Год назад
Ttc Busdrivers allowed to smoke crack now? 😂😂
@alwaysinapop
@alwaysinapop Год назад
Wow! These TTC drivers will literally do anything but drive the bus lmaoooo
@pumalogo204
@pumalogo204 Год назад
never on time in my books
@Matt-nw2te
@Matt-nw2te Год назад
Ummmm… that driver should have been suspended and reassigned
@Progressive_Canadian
@Progressive_Canadian Год назад
This driver needs to be immediately arrested and charged with kidnapping and unlawful restraint.
@Millefiori369
@Millefiori369 Год назад
I swear if that was me, I would've indented that driver's face, then get arrested.
@APetrus-r5x
@APetrus-r5x 7 месяцев назад
The bus is the first 2006 Orion VII OG HEV
@annalisavajda252
@annalisavajda252 Год назад
Yeah here in Victoria a girl was told to put on a jacket or be kicked off for wearing a crop top the other day too though it's hot right now she was annoyed too. People sympathize with drivers that that unreasonable passangers so may as well sympathize with passangers with unreasonable drivers. It implies what that the Mother doesn't know her own child that she was neglecting a child in distress? That is offensive but then again there are terrible parents too and the driver doesn't want it on their conscience if that was the case. Is she asleep? Yep. Would have solved it though.
@KILLCOLONIALISM
@KILLCOLONIALISM Год назад
In so called Canada under Canadian law anywhere a man can go topless a woman can also go topless. That driver should be terminated immediately.
@brendaclark4023
@brendaclark4023 Год назад
My question is why didnt he call 911 first instead of calling a supervisor. The child would had died if unresponsive?...You get immediate help. Fire him immediatly
@Brownsugarenergy
@Brownsugarenergy 10 месяцев назад
Because that is the procedure he has to follow
@wintron
@wintron Год назад
He can inquire not imprison.
@Dynamatrix2000
@Dynamatrix2000 Год назад
You have to fold your stroller up.
@HelTra91
@HelTra91 Год назад
the seats fold up to make room for strollers
@The66Leadfoot
@The66Leadfoot Год назад
"detained" by a bus driver.
@Kipling45
@Kipling45 Год назад
My home intersection 👀
@jb-xc4oh
@jb-xc4oh Год назад
Sue the hell out of them to teach them a lesson.
@shawnthompson2303
@shawnthompson2303 Год назад
Better Call Saul
@failingstate
@failingstate Год назад
This woman, 🤣
@silvermoon3486
@silvermoon3486 Год назад
Strange 😮
@grantbablitz
@grantbablitz Год назад
In Edmonton they may not allow you on the bus if they suspect you have Russian Heritage.
@AgressiveAndre
@AgressiveAndre Год назад
Really?
@jayess6219
@jayess6219 Год назад
😂😂😂
@georgepeters4950
@georgepeters4950 Год назад
Sue😊
@CyberThug1080i
@CyberThug1080i Год назад
Why wouldn't he be we be more drivers like that on the lookout for abused. It's obviously a problem.
@rustyyb8450
@rustyyb8450 Год назад
Could do the same with hyperactive children. Or tired children. Or fearful child.
@hg60justice
@hg60justice Год назад
when a bus driver goes karen on you.🤣 the driver could have handled that better.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 Год назад
Our world today.
@jb-xc4oh
@jb-xc4oh Год назад
Only if you put up with it.
@AllenCH55
@AllenCH55 Год назад
TTC drivers do what they want, thinking they the own the roads.
@fanglu1623
@fanglu1623 Год назад
Yes. They think they are Queens . One TTC driver rejected me and my child saying that one bus only can take one stroller. Once I got on the bus, she told me that if I don't get off the bus will stop. And she did that . Very ridiculous
@baggav99
@baggav99 Год назад
So isn't the US alone madness like this happens lol
@Canuckrz
@Canuckrz Год назад
So the driver allegedly thought the child was unresponsive, so he called his supervisor and the police instead of EMS? Yeah takes a ton of sense /s.
@ricladouceur6202
@ricladouceur6202 Год назад
Sorry but this was none of this driver's business. This was definitely an unlawful detention and he should be charged.
@jb-xc4oh
@jb-xc4oh Год назад
Exactly...!!
@TheGreatSeraphim
@TheGreatSeraphim Год назад
Why are we trying to shame someone for ensuring a child is okay?
@illmagical
@illmagical Год назад
Uh because this is arbitrary detainment.
@Rundvelt
@Rundvelt Год назад
@@illmagicalNot really. We'd have to see how the child presented. It sounds like she's making stuff up, because why would you be afraid of being on a bus that is calling police? That's like super safe.
@illmagical
@illmagical Год назад
@@Rundvelt So what we have is your fantasy vs reality.
@marciloni12
@marciloni12 Год назад
Because he is not the police, to detain her. And I've never seen a bus driver even look at a sleeping child in covered stroller😮 Are they required to check?
@osmosis321
@osmosis321 Год назад
@@godsaveourplanet LOL that movie IS far right.
@ZMadtrapper
@ZMadtrapper Год назад
It's called FORCABLE confinement. CHARGE the driver EH !!
@Dracoool
@Dracoool Год назад
Who knows what the "intentions" of the bus driver were? Maybe he has skeletons in his closet? If I was her husband I would pay that bus driver a little visit and we would "chat"......
@brickjohnston4060
@brickjohnston4060 Год назад
Oh im sure you would big chutes.
@Dracoool
@Dracoool Год назад
@@brickjohnston4060 ...bet on it.
@petercunnington6808
@petercunnington6808 Год назад
I would Sue the bus company until they fire him
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 Год назад
A 'Red Arrow' fail? Reminds me of an experience I had once too while riding a bus in which the bus driver started going off course from his route. Had there not been another passenger whom he did not see at first who was in the back of the bus who stood up for me to agree that I was right when he heard me arguing with the bus driver about what the correct route was instead for him to be on given his bus number what might have happened next instead who knows 100% for sure. Then his excuse was that he had just started doing bus driving for a living on a different route that day and it was summer when a lot of the more experienced bus drivers are taking their holdays.
@michellerose1190
@michellerose1190 Год назад
So many vile males. Gotta watch your back and know how to take your selfdefense to the next level. Cops will say not - but we know what cops are, don't we ladies?
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Год назад
@@michellerose1190 Cf. Lucy Letby.
@michellerose1190
@michellerose1190 Год назад
@@dixonpinfold2582 I heard. But I'm less worried about defending myself against a babykilling nurse than some rando warpedmale or ex because they ain't scared of females. They come for me they gonna get a big surprise. Like fab feminist Bell Hooks says, "Fight back. They're coming for you anyway."
@Millefiori369
@Millefiori369 Год назад
TTC are clowns, this incident will spike hate...on bus drivers. They should've just fired the guy for being a clown
@vsirrmk
@vsirrmk Год назад
Nonsense. As if bus drivers always suspect that a sleeping child in a stoller is dead.. Obviously, there was something very unusual about that mother and that sleeping girl. What happened to " better safe than sorry" ?
@dixonpinfold2582
@dixonpinfold2582 Год назад
Obviously that driver isn't all there.🤨
@dantankunfiveancestorsfist
@dantankunfiveancestorsfist Год назад
Sue the driver and the bus!
@HeyLookPropane
@HeyLookPropane Год назад
Strange situation all around. And one that honestly I don't understand why the news is covering it.
@Cristy-ug5qe
@Cristy-ug5qe Год назад
The safest place for a young child while outdoors IS THEIR STROLLER 👍 Who is SO STUPID to find that wrong, and why did anyone acted upon that regular activity...😫💔
@pannamal5182
@pannamal5182 Год назад
She looks questionable
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 Год назад
Did you know in our man's world both children and women when telling the truth are believed less often than men are? - Men like you.
@SujeitoSuspeitodeMinas
@SujeitoSuspeitodeMinas Год назад
Better safe than sorry
@greendude27
@greendude27 Год назад
sue the TTC
@mattmccarty72
@mattmccarty72 Год назад
Good for the driver. If this story was about an unresponsive child found in a stroller, we would be praising the driver. Why didn't she just wake the child up. Stop blaming people that care. I'm sure she has a lawyer now, because her child "fears" not being able to get off the bus, and mommy needs a new car !
@jayess6219
@jayess6219 Год назад
Bus drivers lucky mother wasnt black 😂
@HelTra91
@HelTra91 Год назад
She said in the video she would have woken the child up if she had known that was the reason he was keeping her there.
@tylerhergott3893
@tylerhergott3893 Год назад
She said in the video she would have woken the child up if she had known that was the reason he was keeping her there.
@haleyd2951
@haleyd2951 Год назад
When my daughter was 6 months old, I took her on a bus to visit cousins. I had her in a baby wrap. She had various medical issues so she was uncomfortable a lot. So Id bounce and rock her and she would settle down. As soon as i stopped bouncing she would cry all over again. Two old ladies got a kick of of it and would laugh, probably remembering their fussy babies. Anyways when I was getting off the bus the bus driver told me he didnt appreciate me shaking my baby. I said there is a differece between boucing/rocking a baby and shaking a baby to the point of shaken baby sydrome. I called the bus line and called and complained. If I abused my baby, pretty sure her surgeon, orthopedic nurse, pediatrician, family doctor, physiotherapist, and the lactation nurse that came to the home might of picked up on it
@SingleAndAlmostBrokeinSurrey
Oh woman, kids are very resilient. They can manage "traumatic" bus ride like this one while asleep the whole time. Don't inject unseen scenes to her innocent brain!!! Get help for yourself and for your 4 year old if it persists.
@Dracoool
@Dracoool Год назад
Stop huffing paint.
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 Год назад
Funny how some of the much older kids riding the bus on a long bus trip which they are on seem to wake up just when they are about to get to their stop or when you need another sentinel in the city around who can help the lost find their way again.
@jayess6219
@jayess6219 Год назад
You are clueless
@BOZKESH
@BOZKESH Год назад
This is forcible confinement , she should press charges and have civil suit against TTC. A ttc driver has no authority to hold anyone against their will
@cecilybardoel4052
@cecilybardoel4052 Год назад
Global, if you start with real news, I may, no nevermind.
@steveleslie2170
@steveleslie2170 Год назад
His pension...is now her pension...or at least should be.
@whiteclouds9775
@whiteclouds9775 Год назад
once on an empty bus driver asked me to go to the back, its ok i can walk instead of taking dirty crack ttc.
@Gago_ka143
@Gago_ka143 Год назад
What did the bus driver sign to do? drive the bus so just drive the bun
@SusanMcEachreon
@SusanMcEachreon Год назад
He probably thought he was doing a good thing, but he could have just expressed his concerns to the mom. Please do not let this stop people from being aware of their surroundings, expressing their concerns and still have the child’s best interest at heart.💕
@rustyyb8450
@rustyyb8450 Год назад
No report was made concerning the driver's belief about why "sleep" was not a likely explanation. Apparently the driver simply thinks the worst when seeing someone asleep. That propensity needs exploration.
@giftedfooljjhg1981thepasmb
@giftedfooljjhg1981thepasmb Год назад
Her daughter is twenty
@johnfish837
@johnfish837 Год назад
Anybody can hold anybody until police arrive if they believe a crime has been committed...But the police have to be summoned immediately. They can only stop the person from leaving and only use the minimum physical force necessary to hold them...Same as a holding suspected shoplifter until police arrive.
@ricladouceur6202
@ricladouceur6202 Год назад
What crime. Having a child asleep in a stroller.
@douglasdonaldson2510
@douglasdonaldson2510 Год назад
Wrong! A crime MUST be observed for the detention to be lawful. Where do you people come from?
@666katch
@666katch Год назад
What kind of person would even say that!
@KILLCOLONIALISM
@KILLCOLONIALISM Год назад
They come from one of the country's that inspired the nazis to colonize Europe and put the Jews into reservations.@@douglasdonaldson2510
@hugosmith6776
@hugosmith6776 Год назад
you ARE correct - BUT - if you are mistaken it is YOU who is going to court......
@sallymenezes
@sallymenezes Год назад
Calm down...The driver was concerned, if the child was sleeping, how was she traumatized? As a visitor to Canada, I was told, the people like their privacy, the driver could have ignored it no harm no foul.
@Millefiori369
@Millefiori369 Год назад
"Driver are trained to say something is they see something..." drivers should be trained to drive the damn bus and mind their own damn business.
@Millefiori369
@Millefiori369 Год назад
Are they going toshow us a picture of the driver and his name?
@meusatrumtempestas
@meusatrumtempestas Год назад
Now that would be interesting
@mastert5618
@mastert5618 Год назад
Take legal action.
@haameisanaei6481
@haameisanaei6481 Год назад
Let me tell ya, I have never seen a bus driver that was not a prick! You can say what you want !
@StevenCanadianSniper
@StevenCanadianSniper Год назад
i would of walked off bus and told cops to take a hike!!! lol imagine! i’d be like ok bud have a good one!!
@Nonogrow420
@Nonogrow420 Год назад
Aaaah a new canadian,...afghani perhaps,welcome🫣🫣🤔🤔🤐keepin the loser cruiser safe 😆🌈🤮💩🥃🫣🤐
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