This has context. Mantis wasn't going to get trained until he proved himself to Shifu with the rest of F5. Even Shifu pointed out, before his training, that he is small but deadly skilled or you could say talented. Also Shifu discriminated Po for being fat Panda. Not every Kung Fu master has Oogway mindset. And that wasn't why Chameleon was evil anyway Chameleon is good written villian, I dare to say better written than Kai
They coulda just said that the Chameleon wasn’t as talented at Kung Fu as her classmates. So instead of finding her unique strength (like what Po did in the first movie with food), she decided it’s better to cheat and suck other people’s Kung Fu. It’s generic but it at least works better than “I am too smol”!!!
Or have her hate Kung fu because they look down on magicians and use magic to steal their Kung Fu as a way of proving her magic superior. Really there are so many ways to go about it ... and they chose the one that directly contradicts the lore of the franchise.
“I wasn’t able to learn Kung Fu… So I’ll just tongue everyone who could!- Hold on, let me rephrase that… I’ll become a master after I suck them!- Wait, no that’s even worse!”
I found someone's comment on another video that I thought was cool. Part of it was: "Change the motivation to a genuine but twisted fascination with kung fu, and her absorption of others’ abilities be her “easy way” of skipping all the way to master. This way we have a clear relationship to Po: she is a dark reflection of the fan he was before being picked by Oogway, but instead of having a great destiny to fulfill and good teachers and father figures to look up to, all she had was a perverse ability she may even had hated about herself until she was desperate, maybe living in poverty and alone. This would make Po question if he would have been the same as her had their roles been reversed, realize the importance of his support system, and strengthen the message of teaching the “right way” to future generations."
She could been interresting Villain. Imagine creating a new Fighting Style but your Elders desregard it because you are copying your opponent's moves. You began to kill your elders because you want people to reconize your talent and admit your work really pay off.
Her insecurities of being small is a stupid motive for being evil. Her whole motive is that she’s too small to learn Kung Fu when people like Mantis, Viper, and Shi Fu exist. It’s a stupid motive.
i have and from what i remember it's not exactly implied anywhere that she makes her self taller but considering that she has the magic to do so i think it would be fair to say that she makes her self taller@@rolosilver3256
Fun fact: The movie's director wanted Camaleon to have NO backstory whatsoever, and by the time the production crew convinced him that, you know, giving the villain a backstory is kind of important, they were too late to do anything but put in those few lines.
This is true. The director is *ATROCIOUS,* treating their staff like shit, and doing their best to make the movie awful. The director wanted to include HUMANS, from a village called "Hu-min"! They wanted the Villian to be a Human!
Worst actions for kung fu pandas villains be like: Tai Lung: rampages through valley of peace and attacking many innocent people when he was rejected as dragon warrior and killing many guards in his prison escape. Lord Shen: commits genocide on the panda species, kills a kung fu master and kills his own men with his cannon in an attempt to stop Po. Kai the collector: stealing the chi from many kung fu masters, literally imprisoning their souls. The Chameleon: pushes someone down the stairs
The Chameleon: Subjugated multiple crimes families and an entire city. Broke open the gates of the Spirit Realm and stole the most powerful techniques from a plethora of the most dangerous villains Po has ever faced.
Tai Lung, Lord Shen, and Kai: "Oh you're a Kung Fu villain alright…. Just not a LEGENDARY Kung Fu villain!" The Chameleon: "Oh yeah, what's the difference?" Tai Lung, Lord Shen, and Kai: "GOOD MOTIVATION AND EXECUTION!"
There were so many ways to make Chameleon interesting but the director didn't care about good storytelling. The co-director had so many good ideas, but he dropped them in favor of the excuse of: "It's a kid's movie. Plot confuses them."
I found someone's comment on another video that I thought was cool. Part of it was: "Change the motivation to a genuine but twisted fascination with kung fu, and her absorption of others’ abilities be her “easy way” of skipping all the way to master. This way we have a clear relationship to Po: she is a dark reflection of the fan he was before being picked by Oogway, but instead of having a great destiny to fulfill and good teachers and father figures to look up to, all she had was a perverse ability she may even had hated about herself until she was desperate, maybe living in poverty and alone. This would make Po question if he would have been the same as her had their roles been reversed, realize the importance of his support system, and strengthen the message of teaching the “right way” to future generations."
I hate when people think that kids movies need to be lazy and dumbed down because kids are too apparently stupid for anything nuanced despite countless other movies proving that wrong.
My problem is the absolute wasted potential. Shapeshifters are one of the most interesting kinds of characters because they give you unlimited routes on how you can write them. To make that kind of character uninteresting is an absolute gut punch. The writers of KFP4 took the least interesting way to write the villain and she is so disconnected from the cast and movie. What's even more disappointing is that it wouldn't be hard at all to improve her as a villain and character. To name just a few ideas, the chameleon could have killed countless people and stolen their identities and live their lives to learn the kung fu people weren't willing to teach her in the past. She could have been a villain that has an identity crisis and loves to take the forms of other people because she feels meaning in it. She could have been working alongside Po disguised as one of his friends only to betray him and giving him the challenge of trusting people around him. Every villain in the previous movies had some connection to Po and/or others in the main cast and that's what challenged him. The chameleon has no such connection, making her less of a threat. She sums up my feelings of the fourth movie so well: disconnected and wasted potential.
@@Deadcablecorbs In the tv series (which may or may not be canon) you get to see the girl mantis has a crush on; meaning there's at least a whole village of them. Granted we knew there were more mantis out there, but it really reminds you that there are entire societies in their world that are shorter and have flourished regardless.
The fact that the director wanted this movie to be a hybrid live-action/animated film with real humans interacting with Po should’ve already been a glaring red flag
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason the Furious Five weren't there during the main plot was because if she was ever in the same room as Viper or Mantis, her entire motivation would crumble
Fun fact: Mike Mitchell(Director) was planning on giving both the Chamelon and Zhen NO BACKSTORY, despite objections from the codirector and entire writing team. It took until they were over halfway animating that Mike decided to give them backstories, but by then it was too late so they could only add a few half-ass lines here or there. TDLR: KFP4 was a disappointment b/c the director had way too much control and focused on making KFP a comedy while codirector with no control wanted a movie like first 2
No backstory? They had the potential to continue the trend and they chose no backstory? I don't even know if I want to see the last movie now (don't spoil)
Eh, I think they were probably trying to go down the Jack Horner route by having a villain that’s pure evil, much in the way Shen was. And also, personally, the movie’s not bad, I like it, but can understand why it gets flack.
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 That was the directors intention, the problem is that KFP villains are known for their intimidation/evil combined with emotional backstories. The reason Jack Horner works is because Death/Goldi balance him out and wouldn’t work if he was the only villain, which is true for Chameleon, who isn’t given anything to make you understand her evil or why she does all this. Keep in mind, I enjoy the movie, people def exaggerate when saying it’s bad as Shrek 3 or Shark Tale, it just doesn’t live up to the original trilogy’s high standards.
@@justaguyonyoutube4592 maybe you could argue they trying to make another Jack Horner. But what about Zhen, she's the main focus of this movie and even she originally didn't get a backstory. Then what's the fucking story then?
“I was turned away by all the masters because I was too small”. She KNOWS that there are many small masters out there, but the writers seemed to have forgotten that Master Shifu, Mantis, Viper, Porcupine, even Chicken…
Tai Lung: Terrorized the entire valley Shen: Committed genocide General Kai: Stole souls and made an army to revive his memory Chameleon: Pushed somebody down the stairs
I feel the Tai Lung part is stretched out-he did go on a temper tantrum after not getting the scroll, causing property damage and probably injuring some folk before going back to take the scroll by force, but no one explicitly died in his backstory. There's Vachir and the Anvil of Heaven in the present, but aside from them, Tai Lung practically has no body count _innocents-wise_ considering the entire valley was evacuated by the time he got to the Jade Palace. Meanwhile Shen has body counts in past _and_ present, and Kai technically has those too with being a warlord in the past and stealing the souls of the masters, which, if not for being reversible in the end, would give him a decent count in the present day. Did the Chameleon even kill anyone when she pushed some rando down the stairs?
@@legendarycryptid2629 She killed our expectations for a well-developed villain, that’s for sure. Then again, you can only make so many sequels before ideas get repetitive, I feel like three was enough.
@@Oziel11 Were it not for the roadmap having been a planned hexalogy, I'd agree... assuming we even get a hexalogy considering the reception to 4. They wanted a Student Trilogy and a Master Trilogy, but with how Mike Mitchell handled things, I'm not sure if they'll do like they did with Shrek and just try to combine elements from the final two movies into one 5th movie. Box office returns were good last I checked, but they need someone else as the main director instead of Mitchell.
The trilogy is so Good because Tai lung (i think thats how you spell his name): attacked po physically Shen: attacked po mentally Kai: attacked po spiritually Chameleon: Im ShMoL
Tai Lung: *Tests Po’s physical prowess* Shen: *Test's Po’s mental prowess* Kai: *Tests Po's spiritual prowess* Chameleon: *Tests nothing audience's patience* Her motivation makes no sense and the most evil thing she does, Shifu already did to Po in the first movie. She can have the combined power of all the villains, but she's undoubtedly the weakest of the franchise.
@@EthanCD3107 She is the most evil. It's her narrative. She is the opposite of Po, the embodiment of Po's past demons which Po must overcome to transcend his dragon warrior title and become Spiritual leader which really fits into the symbolism of the movie to move on from the past. Chameleon has incredible writing I could get really deep into
Imagine if her actual reason was because she's part of a dying race similar to how Po's race was literally extinct before he was born, but instead of Po having a family and a positive support system, Chameleon was forced to grow up alone.
That would fit more into how all KFP villains are "we are not so different" to Po. It can also explain her shape-shifting MORE if she didn't see more or any other chameleons she's more comfortable being literally anything else.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 I've seen another comment make her motives better that what KFP 4 gives her. The idea is that both Po and Chameleon has an admiration towards Kung fu. But not like Po, the Chameleon has no one that loves her, guide her, or even cared for her. So, as an easy way out, she practices sorcery to steal the Kung fu of others to fuel her now twisted admiration. That way, her motivation is a complete opposite of Po's journey to master Kung fu and made him realise, if he doesn't get chosen by Oogway that day, and trained by shifu, he could have had the same fate as the Chameleon. And it lines with your concept that she's an endangered species like Po. That would have made their connection much more deep.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 yeah, i don't get how the director doesn't want to give both Chameleon and Zhen a backstory while both of them are overflowing with great potential.
Kai’s motivation was also very one-dimensional because he just wanted all the chi for himself and that was it but he’s still a better villain than Chameleon since he’s a very serious threat, has the sickest theme music, and voiced by f**king JK Simmons
Kai’s motives make sense and have arguably more depth than what were actually shown. Kai wants power because he grew up in era of war and chaos and was a general who commanded an army. Power must have always meant a lot to him but when he got a hold of chi he became obsessed with the supernatural powers and lost any semblance of his humanity. None of this was explicitly stated in the third movie yet there’s still enough context in Kai’s backstory to work with for this headcanon to sound believable. It’s ridiculous how stupid Chameleon’s motives were. At least Kai’s made sense 🤦🏾♂️
Look at what each of the villains symbolizes: Tai Lung is about body training Shen is about mental training Kai is about spiritual training The three aspects of kung fu And the Chameleon is about... stealing identity? Or even the colours: Tai Lung is associated with blue Shen is associated with red Kai is associated with green Three primary colours The Chameleon is... kinda yellow, but she's green actually. And she's got blue eyes, when she metamorphoses into someone. She doesn't really fit as the villain of this franchise, even symbolically as we see. We call Kai the worst as he's standing the closest to some sort of a "common bad guy", but even with this, he felt complete, he felt like he was part of the story of Dragon Warrior (because he indirectly was). At the end, he was actually a cool character with an interesting story and understandable motivation. The Chameleon as a character is about nothing. She doesn't even have a name. She related to no one, and doesn't feel like anything more than a side quest.
I’ll throw my two cents in and say that the Chameleon symbolizes heart. She wanted to do Kung fu to be strong but lacked the motivation to actually make the effort to learn them (she could have snuck in a dojo then watch and learn how the masters do it) She decided to take the easy way and learned sorcery to steal other peoples experience and skills to get to her end goal. I find it fitting that the Chameleon has no original color code, she takes blue, red, green, and yellow cuz she’s stealing others identity.
@iamtoychica4302 Yeah but Shrek 4 was also basically just one big epilogue coasting on the success of the first 3. He's competent at making silly comedies, but he aparently can't write a real plot to save him life.
@@metazoxan2 coasting on the success of the first 3?? Shrek the third was literally so bad no one took the franchise seriously after, 4 while not peaking 2 on quality is way better than people give credit for, 3 is the one that shouldnt have been made
*Tai Lung: Effortlessly defeats 1000 guards in 2 minutes, by himself!* *Lord Shen: Horrifically and disturbingly commits genocide!* *Kai: Easily takes the Chi of every other kung fu master and destroys the jade palace!* Chameleon: Gently pushes someone down the stairs
Oh boy, Spin-off series have more fit villain for this movie like Kepa ruler of demon underworld or Jindiao the first dragon warrior who got corrupt. Such waste potential😂😂😂
"Not your fault? Who filled my head with dreams? Who drove me to train until my bones crack?? Who denied me my destinyyyyyy???" "Oh, you want to know so badly? You think knowing will heal you, huh!? Fill some... Crater, in your soul, hm? Here's your answer: Your parents didn't love you." "I loved him... like a brother! And he betrayed me... now I will destroy EVERYTHING HE HAS CREATED!"
You know, often times there's elegance in simplicity. Kai had no tragic backstory to speak of, and he was firmly established as a ruthless, warmongering brute even before becoming a Shang Tsung wannabe...but even his simplistic power-hungry evilness was far more believable and entertaining than "I'm evil because I have a Napoleon complex". A simple motive is better than a stupid one.
Exactly. Kai’s motives are simple because he grew up in an era drenched in war and brutality. He has simple motives because he grew up in a simpler era. He’s a product of his environment. War and battles are all that he knew. He got stuck in his ways
@@rickyronny4019 And thematically, he was the perfect dark doppelganger for Oogway. Two warriors and former friends, but one chose to use power for others, while the other chose to take power for his own benefit. Being a warrior, in Kai's mind, why not take the chi for self-preservation and winning battles? But for Oogway, he was given chi and healed by it, so he probably had a lot more respect for its power and felt gratitude to those who used it for him.
And adding to these comments, while it's not dwelled on as much as some would like, Kai still feels upset about Oogway turning on him out of nowhere in his mind. As the top comment said, Oogway turned good after his near death experience and healing and training from the pandas, while Kai only focused on the power chi gave him. Oogway, his brother in arms who he loved dearly, betrays him, kills him, and completely unpersons him, so alongside the chi stealing, he plans on destroying Oogway's memory as payback. I've always loved Kai as a villain. His motives are mostly simple, but he still has his compelling parts.
@@legendarycryptid2629 exactly. You described Kai’s backstory well. What would’ve rlly elevated Kai’s story is adding a bit more context. Some of these things were implied or hinted but not fully fleshed out enough. But Kai is a simple character with still a lot of compelling history
Yeah... genocide on the Panda race. He was foretold that he would "...be defeated by a warrior of black and white." So he strived to prevent it by killing them all...
Shen: The prophecy said I would be defeated by a warrior of black and white. Now that I have killed all the pandas, that can't happen Dark Templars: Killing an entire people is heresy, and the work of chaos. Face my bolter
He still isn't perfect but he definitely had a good backstory in mind The Chameleon could have had potential but unfortunately they just... Didn't make more out of her. Makes me sad because her design is awesome in my eyes.
Don’t even try to compare Plankton to Chameleon, at least he’s an actual threat and has won in multiple occasions. lol even for something as small as a plankton.
i remember people saying kai was pretty weak on release of kfp3 so chameleon's one noteworthy contribution to the kung fu panda universe is 'rehabilitating kai's image in an instant'
Who the hell called Kai weak? There were only 2 moments in KFP3 where Kai is shown to not have the upper hand, and both times were when Po was getting help from his friends and the Panda village, which was the whole main theme of the movie. The first was when his jade construct army was getting handled by the pandas, and even then, the moment Po and Kai are isolated and try to fight directly, Po stood no chance against Kai and gets beaten easily. The second time was in the spirit world, and he only won that because the pandas and his friends and family were giving him their spiritual chi, thus completing the arc of the movie. Before that, he was gonna be taken by Kai like all the other kung fu masters. Kai being weak? Did people watch the same movie I did?
@@norsehorse84 No, I think he means Kai was had weak writing. I despised him as a character, because he was so badly written compared to the first one. Basically all he seems to be in my opinion is just "Really strong evil dude" without enough of a reason to be so.
@@norsehorse84 I mostly didn't like the sudden anime giant laser beams and stuff. I'm probably wildly misremembering it, as I disliked the movie so much I haven't watched it in at least 4 years. Perhaps I should watch it again.
Ruined the entire series is a reach. We still have two more movies left which could either make or break the franchise. Let’s just hope they at least turn out better than this one
You know, The Chameleon could have been a dark mirror to Po, where she was chosen to protect her people and learned a ancient forbidden art to do so, however unlike Po who knew when to let go of the mantle, she refuses to and kept straddling the line until she finally fell off and became a addict to the power
I feel it would be better even if they did a Jack Horner on her "blah blah I want to be even more powerful than I already am and I'm an evil wizard live with it". Such a waste of character design and powers.
You know, something that could've upgraded Chameleon severely is if they based off the aspect that chameleons in real life have REALLY fragile bones, if they implemented that to her as justification of being rejected as others did worry about her safety, it could've been much better, it could give the justification of her frustration of something that is part of her but yet she cant control, a cruel design choice that nature did that leads to the rest of her days loathing her powerlessness and herself as she is designed to die in a city built on survival...until she finds out about forbidden means, means that werent restricted by any physical limitation, the thing is, someone that is powerless so long can get maddened with power real quick, it could've been interesting, it could've actually make sense, it could've been even a parallel from Po, as it was sooooo supposedly hinted at the movie as he also didn't knew how to fight once and was frowned upon due to just being a laughingstock...but no. Just small. As if there aren't any characters smaller than her that know kung fu.
@@peacrowviviHonestly, still would be a better backstory since Mantis is extremely fast and that gives him a way to actually put up a fight, while Chameleon wouldn't have that option so, still would make some sense, it surely isn't a completely valid reasoning but making her more than a "Second dimension Doofenshmirtz" level antagonist is already decent.
@peacrowvivi well the diffrence is mantises are Made to fight and kill Prey so they can become stronger the chamelon however are Made to sit on branches Eating bugs that come by so your thing still works
kai might not live up to the first and second but they did a damn good job making sure he was not shit you can tell that the writers knew that it'd be hard to make that third movie but they showed true competence with making up for it in other areas
Honestly all they had to do was just provide more context on Kai’s backstory and his turn to evil and he’d be right up to par with the first two villains. He’s still cool enough as it is but he could’ve been better
At least his boss music is epic and is arguably the most dangerous out of all the villains. In the other 2 Po is chasing them but here Po is getting chased.
I mean, fuck every other shorter Kung Fu Master, Zhen was a formidable fighter and she's about as tall as the Chameleon. Good work invalidating your own villain in your own fucking movie guys!!!
No joke, while watching the movie and she mentioned why she was doing the things she did, I was like “Oh so she literally is just supposed to be some other reflection of Po in the sense of what would’ve happened if he never was given a chance to begin with to learn Kung Fu and made it everyone else’s problem. Alright, that’s pretty alright you know, every major villain of Po has similarities to him.” And then she mentioned about her height and my immediate next thought was, “Mantis’s entire existence literally proves you wrong, and technically speaking, Monkey’s too because he is also short. Even the fox lady you adopted basically knows Kung Fu and is short and yet you don’t?” Like it’s kinda crazy for that being one of the reasons or the main reason (I forget if she mentioned others that seem to have a bigger impact on her being turned down) when literal legends of Kung Fu were short people like Mantis, Monkey, Viperess (WHO HAS NO LIMBS), Chipmunk, Shifu, and others that were probably mentioned and seen before.
Even worse is they actually could've made that work. Imagine her being short was framed as an excuse she tells herself to make her feel better about being rejected from all of the kung fu masters she knew? And she was called out on this, and her true colors emerge, which is simple bitterness and massive arrogance? Then it would fit your idea of her being a mirror to Po not being accepted into Kung Fu, but similar to how Po thought he was not athletic enough being a major obstacle for him that he actually overcame, the Chameleon saw her height as the same thing and simmered on that rejection all her life. My god, it's much worse when you see a meh movie that had so much potential that wasn't even utilized.
My reaction to learning the Chameleon's motive was literally "Clearly she didn’t talk to Oogway or Shifu." They literally have Mantis and Viper. They're both smaller than the Chameleon.
Maybe her real motivation was not having the right teachers? Sometimes bad role models can mess you up. Maybe that's what they were trying to convey? Badly, admittedly.
It was kinda tragic, but not as well executed as the villains before him. The third movie was overall more focused on comedy if I remember correctly so that's probably the reason.
From memory his motive was purely: they found the pandas, but instead of using it for good like oogway did. He wanted it purely for power/evil reasons. And granted his motive for the *movie* was betrayal, but he was also.. in the wrong? So I see how its tragic for him, but still completely misguided/blinded (Though it has been a few years)
“Fans loved The Triology like no other fandom never loved others before… And now Dreamworks has a chance to make things greater, to give the best fan service for Kung Fu Panda 4. And the fans are stuck with him: Mike Mitchell, a poor choiced director who treats it like a joke.”
@@carlososoriohernandez3979 wait! my fault! i accidentally gave this movie a lower budget! *falls* ...and may have also given the director too much control.
tail long: me quitaron mi cerveza y me rompieron mi playstation shen: mi familia me hecho por mis acciones que crei que eran buenas kai: me obsecione con el poder y mi amigo de la infancia me hizo olvidable camaleona: PIXAR ME RECHAZO
“Size matters not, it’s what you use it for that really makes the difference. Something as simple as being below average shouldn’t stop you from achieving your dreams, only your mindset does” - Master Oogway, probably
Out of all these guys, Kai is my favorite one because he doesn't present himself as a seriously Grimm villain to tell people of the threat he is, he jusy shows them. This and him being the oldest of the villains is also why I like that he's the funniest of them. Aside from him hating how nobody knows about him anymore, he at that age where he doesn't give a f***, allowing him to be the black comedic sociopath he was in the movie.
The Chameleon is the villain of the 4th movie, who brought back the fallen villains from the first 3 movies (including other masters) stole their chi so they could transform into them, gaining power as they went. basically, they have a napoleon complex.
The chameleon basically wanted to learn kung fu but they didn't let her because she was short and now she's evil. That's it, that's her whole motivation.
Even if she wasn’t allowed to learn kungfu since she was small- (looks at mantis, viper, and shifu) couldn’t she just have….. yknow… shapeshifted into something bigger? 💀
The funny thing is, the TV show “Legends of Awesomeness” handled this type of character WAY better than KFP 4 did. Taotie is a character who was a kung fu student, who trained alongside Shifu as a child under Master Oogway. Due to being much less talented than Shifu was, he decided to build the training hall at the Jade Palace with Shifu’s help (because while he was poor at kung fu, he was super resourceful with machinery), but still failed while Shifu got even stronger. Taotie finally broke one day, cast aside kung fu, and built a mecha in order to impress Oogway, but was kicked out of the Jade Palace for turning his back on kung fu, leading him to be a bitter villain insistent on proving machinery could outmatch kung fu. The show did a great job giving him a story that fit into the universe and made his motivations make sense. You know you fumbled HARD when you, a Hollywood writer, did worse than a writer for a lower-budget Nickelodeon show. And I don’t mean that in a hateful way towards the Nick writers, clearly they deserved to be paid more than the crappy big-budget writer for KFP 4. And clearly they had WAY more love and respect for the source material.
Cameleon: I can’t lurn kung-fu because I am small. Shifu, the two rooster masters, Mugan, Junjie, Chao, Wushen and Mantis: sounds like a weak’s excuse.
To be fair, as a tall person i do find people's obsession with height INCREDIBLY annoying, to the point where i could definitely see someone turning evil because of it
@@sammyboy_samik3554 The Chameleon is a cool Villian same opinion as you but Kai has a better written but sorry. Chameleon is a loser because she crys that she is small that is the most bullsh@t thing what I ever heard of a Villian. Sorry it is true.
If I was going to write her a backstory (without having seen the movie), it would probably go something like this: When she was born, immediately, she possessed the ability to not only camouflage, but to also shapeshift. Her family, who was already in debt to another family at the time, used her ability to make quick cash and then sell her off to those they were indebted to so they could be freed. Her new family, which was a group of the rich elite, then used her to carry out their dirty work. She wanted to have a life, she wanted to live and become herself, but she was never able to, only being allowed to shift into other people’s roles and act as they would. She doesn’t have a identity, a self, and she doesn’t even know if she wants one. She’s went so long without one that it might not make a difference to her anymore. However, she does want one thing, to steal away the kung fu from the best of the best so that all warriors, similar to the ones she used to hunt down before her new family all died off from old age, may be killed by her hand. She knows no other path and the idea of completing this journey scares her, but she can’t leave. She has to finish the job. And Po would probably try and convince her that she can still make a new identity for herself and stop walking this road because sometimes you have to, which could relate to his arc of changing paths in life as well.
Villain 1: trained in Kung Fu his whole life Villain 2: uses firework cannons Villain 3: uses chi from the spirit realm to enslave old masters Villain 4: uses contrived, nonsensical never-previously-established sOrCeRy to somehow be able to shapeshift into whatever the actual fuck she wants (including a giant kaiju) and somehow "steal your kung fu" by eating it with her tongue or something
@@tobsonasanya4765 kai did evil by taking chi and oogway which was his bestfriend banished him into the shadow realm, basically greed and betrayal but kinda tragic in kai's perspective. For shen idrk tbh.
The Chameleon didn't live up to her potential as a villain because she served as a plot device. She brought Kai back with the Staff of Wisdom despite how Po obliterated his spirit in the spirit realm. Not only does this contradict the previous installment, but it proves that she was forced into the narrative.
Plus, let’s be honest, Kai and Shen would have destroyed her if they stuck to having those two beasts fight against the Chameleon. Especially that of Kai, not to mention isn’t Kai like… I dunno… immune to spirit-related powers? Kind of the same thing with how he was immune to the Wuxi Finger Hold? So how would Chameleon, a sorceress, be able to take on someone like Kai who is trained in the art of something even more powerful than that???
