Regardless of the actual phone, ThinkPhone is a great name, and Lenovo/Motorola should use their Laptop name schemes for most phones. They can make a ThinkPhone (Light/Pro/Ultra) for flagship. IdeaPhone for budget-midrange. And maybe YogaPhone for flip/fold phones.
@@intensifies3362 I'm not saying that they don't have names currently, but I'm stating that consistent names with their laptop business would help brand recognition. Especially since Motorola was pretty dead over the last 8+ years, and current product names seem rarely recognizable and, let's be honest, names like Edge and Razr sound like something edgy early 2000s teens would come up with.
I don't know how I didn't know about this. As a life long Lenovo Thinkpad X1 carbon guy, this phone is PERFECT. Wish I wouldn't have just gotten that new iPhone that isn't that great.
I have this phone and it receives stable security patches every month. I don't use it for business nor did I pay full retail price. It's a solid device for someone that doesn't need a lot of extras but likes security. I've enjoyed using it.
@Oldasianguy I picked it up for $199 after trade in. Considered buying one last year but went with Razr Plus instead. I liked the Razr but the screen protector issues became a bit much for me to be concerned with. Plus, I like having consistent security updates and so far the Thinkphone has been every month.
1. Motorola ThinkPhone is a high-end phone inspired by Lenovo's ThinkPad laptops. 2. Targeted towards business crowd with extra security and durability features. 3. Aramid fiber back for extra durability and IP68 rating for water and dust protection. 4. 6.6-inch POLED display with 1080p resolution and fast 144Hz refresh rate. 5. Stereo speakers with Dolby Atmos support and an under-display fingerprint reader. 6. Powered by a Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1 chipset and has a large 5,000 mAh battery. 7. Triple-camera setup on the back with a 50MP main camera and 32MP front-facing camera. 8. Has extra security features like Think Shield and Moto Threat Defense. 9. Clean software experience with near-stock Android 13 and Moto features. 10. Main camera photos have good detail and colors, but finer details are soft. 11. Ultra-wide camera photos are decent, with good dynamic range and autofocus. 12. Front-facing camera has good detail and colors. 13. Videos in 4K are decent, but 8K footage is soft and muted. 14. A hardware button can launch apps, but is difficult to use with one hand. 15. Good alternative options include the Samsung Galaxy S23 Plus and OnePlus 11.
it's now available for around 600euro here in Europe, since I love the Thinkpad design and have most of my computer stuff in the Thinkpad/Thinkvision range I'm considering this one for sure. I prefer a premium design adn build quality over a super advanced camera.
Motorola really needs to crank their game up in software updates and camera, I find the overall build quality ok with moto phones in general but a massive letdown with camera and software updates.
I got my Thinkphone in January and love it. Batterytime is great, 1 1/2 day runtime is great and it´s finally a flagship with a flat display and no curved sh.... anymore. Camera is ok, not on par with a Galaxy s23 oder 22 but its ok for the usual snapshots. For me its awesome, the only thing problematic are the accessories. No many cases or accessories available. Overall for me a great device. So after 5 month I sold my Thinkphone and here is why. The device itself is great, battery life and overall performance spot on but Motorola never managed to fix the stuttering issue for the first seconds when recording video, no matter if 1080p or 2160p . Pictures at daylight are great but as soon as it gets darker the quality goes down the drain. Main problem with the phone is the accessory situation which is basically non existent. Yo do not get any decent case from one of the big names. Spigen; UAG, Supcase and others, NON of them have any accessories available so you are stuck with the useless case that comes with the phone (Kudos to Motorola because they replaced it twice.) because the edges break or you buy a 3€ clear case from Aliexpress because this is the only wothy one. There is also no decent screen protection available. Yes you can get some cheap glas on Amazon but they are worthless so save your bucks and buy yourself a beer. I would have loved to keep it but without any accessory that allows me to protect the device for a long run you either treat it like a raw egg or you get a phone with good support for accessories. A 150€ Samsung phone gets more support than a 999€ Motorola Phone, let that sink in.
@@mjzkul March security update came on Sunday, shortly after Google released it. So far so good. Both updates (February / March) came shortly after officially released by google but cant say anything long term so far but for the first 2 month it looks good and I hope Motorola keeps it that way.
@@jarvisjed ordered it here in Germany on the Motorola website. As far as I heard it isn't available to end user in some countries so can't really speak about that one.
They should just start doing a "thinkphone" version of their flagship like how Samsung used to do with their "Active" variants. There's good potential for creating a moto/lenovo ecosystem.
I think for stress test, not only cpu performance but temperature would be great. Since this is not a gaming focused they should prioritized comfort temp instead of performance
Strange to call it Motorola. Lenovo owns Motorola and the ThinkPad brand. The ThinkPhone lineup should just remain under the Lenovo Brand and not be a sub-brand of Motorola
I'm waiting for the price to come down more, cause I really like this phone! It has all I care about in a great phone. Nice cameras, great speakers, and MORE THAN ENOUGH storage 256g!! I'm not some reject that has NO LIFE and lives on their phone 24/7.
@@JB-1184 I'm glad I didn't end up buying it... The speakers ARE LOUD, but they're tinny sounding crap speakers, Motorola just doesn't seem to care anymore 😞
Motorola/Lenovo needs to get its act together. The flagship Motorola Edge 30 Ultra is still waiting Android 13, due upgrades to make its 200mp camera decent, and improvements for Ready For that would make it really usable.
Excellent all-round review, thanks Will! Now holds the top slot in the "Nice but Pricey" category. Can't help thinking about all those Corporate types WITH EXACTLY THE SAME Device - that won't go down well in competitive circles! Black Razr23 instead?
Wish they also made a midrange device: 1. Midrange Chipset instead of a flagship one (e.g. SD 778G or MT Dimensity 8100) 2. Lower IP rating (say IP56) 3. Gorilla glass 5 or 4 4. Headphone jack 5. Mono speaker 6. Priced between USD300-500
This phone would make a perfect T-EUD since we don't care about photo quality, another thing is how much software update we'll be getting, cause custom ROM are not always possible ! I'll probably ask Motorola a sample unit and more clarifications about software support, but other than that, the specs are exactly what we're looking for!
I know this is a consumer focused channel but this phone is not really meant for this crowd. Lenovo will sell this phone IN BULK to businesses and they give huge discounts. And it's also meant to be managed by your company's IT dept. Camera is not really a priority (have a work phone and I rarely use it). Most important is good sound quality for calls and durability, which this phone has.
I consider this phone because it's on sale and for $400 offers Snapdragon 8+ gen 1 ( made by TSMC) without over heating problems. Newer Samsung S23 FE is also on discount but it has Snapdragon standard 8 gen 1.
it isnt meant for consumers. its a work phone, like the thinkpad is a work laptop. lenovo (or motorola) will most probably sell them in bulk for cheaper to logistics or IT companies which will have more use for these types of devices
Lenovo Legion Y70 is only around 370USD and even lower priced now with similar specs to this, aside from minor changes which definitely not worth the 700USD extra for the Thinkphone.
it's like a global version of Lenovo Legion Y70 phone. same specs. but the huge difference is the price. the legion y70 only starts at 400$ with a 8/128 variant.
I would upgrade from my Oneplus 7T but my main skepticism is the cameras and promised updates. Even at the sale price of $400 I still cant justify something that realistically is only an upgrade in storage and processor. My 7T still works perfectly fine speedwise aside from some quirks, some of which are just Android related and not the phone at all (annoyances with Google phone and messenger apps). While tempting, im going to stick with my 7T in hopes the S24 blows me away or something comes out like this Thinkphone with better cameras and software updates.
This review (along with Lenovo/Motorola) should have highlighted the Ready For desktop mode much more. Being able to use the ThinkPhone *instead of* a laptop is very appealing. Instead of issuing and managing a bunch of laptops, just issue the phone and have USB-C hot desk setups to plug in and go. One device to rule them all. Ready For is better than Samsung DeX at this point, but Motorola is even worse than Samsung at promoting it. Focusing 1/3rd of a review of a business phone on the cameras rather than the productivity potential is a big miss.
All phone "reviewers" know how to do is whine about the camera while not discussing any actual selling points. First, Moto cameras are great if you aren't pixel peeping all day. Second, ThinkPhone and Moto Edge Plus are light and suave with massive batteries.
I have this phone. I also have a Pixel 7. RU-vid videos are crisper on the pixel but I do think the certain pics look better on the think phone. I do love the infrastructure of moto, and think I might stick with them! I would use the think phone as my daily driver if the photos were better and the videos were crisper, other than that, I really enjoy this phone!
Again, a phone with no headphone jack and no SD card slot is just useless especially on a flagship. Flagships should be the ultimate maximum experience on a product line.
I have over 4500 pictures,over 1100 videos and 1000 songs saved to my phone as well as over 100 apps and multiple games. I still have 70 GB of 128 free. If you use more then 256 gigs on a phone idk what you’re doing 😂 other then maybe recording a buncha 4K video but you could just move that to a computer?
@@iked4421 I'm just built different I guess. On just my internal storage I have 199Gb full. Plus using an SD card makes it faster and easier to transfer stuff to a new phone
If you buy a Motorola. You will go through the following phases: 1st stage: slightly disappointed as it does not meet expectations 2nd stage: you discover bugs and stability issues. Lots of them. Even on the flagships. 3rd stage: you start to console yourself that your purchase is good. An update will come to solve the issues. 4th stage: you realise the updates are not coming. 5th stage: you become terribly annoyed and angry 6th stage: you orchestrate a revolt against the customer care and bombard the Motorola forum with complaints 7th stage: you realise no amount of complaining will solve the issue. 8th stage: you realise you got scammed 9th stage: you advocate against the purchase of Motorola phones on RU-vid videos
Used motorola e3 power for 3 years, rugged phone, good battery. It feels snappy then, if only apps not demanding more phone resources i might use it longer.
Never had an issue with my Moto G Power. Dad never an issue with his Razr. Mum with what ever Moto phone she chose. My phone spends much of the day in hog bars... An environment so caustic we have to gut the interiors every five years due to corrosion. And the phone works just fine.
Yet not a word about the telephone or Wi-Fi reception. I remember how the original Moto X was praised as one of the five best mobile telephones of the year for LTE connection that beat Apple "by a country mile." Of course, not a word about its spotty 3G connectivity. My old 2020 Moto G could keep a 5 GHz Wi-Fi connection farther than the latest Apple could keep 2.4 GHz. Neither Lenovo nor anyone else bothered to test for that, either. It's a mobile radio. Test for radio connectivity, will ya?
These can be had brand new for under 400 USD for a while now. At that price, it's a really solid phone, especially in 2024 where something like the Samsung A35 is 400 dollars brand new.
Why do manufacturers keep adding useless dedicated buttons but can't seem to add a two stage camera button on the top right hand side (landscape)? The camera is one of the main reasons people upgrade phones. Some of us hate tapping at a screen and most people would enjoy it if they had the option to use a physical button.
So terrible software support, average specs, nothing to make it really stand out and they're asking premium prices for it? This won't sell well at all.
Many of you are missing the main point about this phone, it's not a flagship for entertainment ect... Just like the Samsung Xcover are working phones for corporate, retail, ect... This is like the Samsung Xcover line, same purpose, lower price point.
Heyyo, I feel they missed an opportunity here by not illuminating the red i in ThinkPhone like they do on their ThinkPad devices heh... It does look like a decent device... But for the price does it still only get 2 years of OS updates and 4 years of security patches? That seems pretty weak these days, especially for a "business" phone where software updates and especially security patches are more important. Well I checked the Motorola website and it doesn't mention how many years of software upgrades only security patches... Currently receiving monthly security updates. Device launched on January, 2023 Security updates will stop on January, 2027 Launched On: Android 13 Next OS: Android 14 *This device will receive at least bi-monthly SMRs updates Please note: Channels and regions may have different launch dates and support cycle may vary.
The camera is an afterthought, similar to how the webcam on the thinkpads are an afterthought..Its built for the business world, designed to become the next blackberry for offices
@@carldrogo9492 Not arguing for it, just saying for people whose company will buy these for (obviously these are not made for personel purchase/use), these management types dont need a well performing camera.
Today I ordered my Thinkphone off eBay £380 I have been lucky. I have been trying to get one for a while as this phone still retails between £600 to £900 in the UK. I am over the moon.
This device is a disappointment, the ThinkPad brand means flagship and this phone clearly isn't. How on earth you release a phone with last year's specs and charge a premium for it?
It's basically a Motorola edge 30 fusion with wireless charging, has the 8+ gen 1, and it's $1100, just no. And you can get a Motorola edge 30 ultra for less 🤦
