It was as if Ford made this design as an option for those that didn't care for the smooth lines of the F150. Total opposite and honestly I think it looks 100x better than the F150 of that time.
Yup- those trucks are ugly, terribly designed pieces of crap. That is exactly how I would describe the 97-02 light duty ford’s. The 03-09 trucks are slightly less ugly and even more terribly designed. If it wasn’t for the 7.3 powerstroke in the super duty chassis I would say that ford hasn’t made a good pickup truck since 1996.
I'll still see my fair share of these on the road today. Typically rusted out and with hundreds of thousands of miles but still going strong. Even though this will never happen again but I enjoy the smell of older diesel pickups. Back in the 2000s when diesels were becoming more popular I would always be reminded of their presence with their strong diesel fumes and loud engine idles. Nowadays diesels run so efficiently and quietly and they don't smell anymore. I'm sure it's not healthy to smell that anyway but it gives that little bit of nostalgia.
They're all the pre 6.0L and 6.4L models with the 7.3 Power stroke that are still on the road. The 2 valve gas engines were good too if a bit underpowered but the 3 valve mod motors eat camshafts.
That’s one thing i miss about the early 2000’s. I remember seeing ambulances all the time and they all had that distinctive 7.3 powerstroke rattle. Anytime I hear an old 7.3 that’s what they remind me of. That and the smell. Diesels just don’t have that smell anymore.
I too miss the early 2000's. Before all the technology and BS. The 7.3 powerstroke will be one of the best ever in my opinion. Now days you have to worry about cam phasers and bad torque converters and turbo coolant leaks on some ford motors. They run great but have flaws.
I got a 1999 f250 with 170,467 miles on her just needs a cab corner on the passenger side lol she’s so nice everyone calls her the stank truck bc of my exhaust lol but I love the smell!!
We have an 03 F-350 with the 7.3 at work. We’ve looked at replacing it but we can’t find anything better. I remember back in the early 2000’s people saying vehicles of this generation are throwaway vehicles but these seem to have been the exception.
The 1997 redesign of the F-150 is the most underrated in trucks history. And the Super Dutys are also handsome, tough badasses. Thanks for this video..
These trucks were the last simple trucks Ford built. A time before higher emissions standards and tech overtook the truck market. Makes me rethink buying a newer truck. I think I’ll keep my 01 F150 going longer.
@@Rockymountainklx keep it. Don't sell it. It will last forever and will even increase its value when all the modern hyper-tech crap starts to fail, and the WWIII starts by lithium scarcity. '01 F-150, yeah!!
I know I would regret it. I gotta see how far the 5.4 2v will go. I’m only at 194k. Compared to most, I’m at low mileage. It’s not uncommon to see these old 2v modular engines with 300k. So thankful I didn’t buy the 3v.
The non P.I. 5.4L was really overmatched in the super duty, both non-P.I. variants would launch spark plugs. The P.I. variants were better about that. But the 3 valve V10 was a beast.
Period! Absolutely agree. I could have wrote this comment to the letter exactly myself, but it's already here. I ended up with a super clean and now, well built 03 7.3. The best vehicle I've ever owned. A factory hard to find black original OEM Cam sensor in the glovebox, new in package, fuel $ key on /, turn tires anywhere with zero worries. I trust it much more than my wife's super low mile Pontiac G8 GT, and my low mile Toyota. Truly some of the most reliable vehicles ever on the road, bar none.
Demolition derbies are a great way to see what lasts and what doesn't. And what's really rigid. These trucks are some of the toughest, most durable trucks I've ever seen, even when hitting 3/4 ton trucks.
I love how they talk about what the truck can actually do, instead of talking about how big the screen in the dash is, and how many bullshit cameras it has.
Haha, this is so 1998 with "All My Life" on the radio. I think this was pretty fancy for its day in 1998, in Lariat Crew Cab spec. I mean, it was basically the basis of the Excursion and not your grandpa's pickup. The first 4-door pickup with dual airbags IIRC, unlike what GM offered on 4-door HD models (none). These were a big deal in Texas as usual back then.
The 5.4L really wasn't a tolerable choice in the Super Duty until the 3 valve variant came out , and even then you'd want the 5 speed auto and 4.10 gears. I had a 2005 F-350 single cab 4WD with the 3V 6.8L and 4.56 gears as my demo for a while. Great truck.
The 3 valve engine was the worst 5.4 ever made. What a terrible piece of crap. The early 2v 5.4’s were gutless but they were fairly reliable when they weren’t self-removing the spark plug threads out of the cylinder heads.
@@jdcampbell5587 You must not have needed it to do much or had low expectations. That engine couldn’t pull a wet noodle out of a wildcat’s ass in a Super Duty.
I love my 1999 F-350 single rear wheel crew can with the 7.3L and 4 wheel drive. The truck only has 148K on the odometer and no rust. God i wish we could have simple diesels like we did pre-2006 again. These old diesels will far outlive any new diesel.
@@stevenvanheel3932, thanks! I’m actually a chevy guy but i worked on those fords along with the E-series vans with the 7.3L engines for years and loved it. They just don’t make them like they used to. Yeah the 7.3L may be underpowered by today’s standards but it’s reliable and simple to work on.
@@JLCmike4014 my current job is working on these trucks. The 7.3’s are a dream to work on and we always make money on them. The 6.0’s and newer not so much. Anything 03-up can be a real nightmare and can sometimes wind up costing us money.
I love the V10 and Powerstroke truck, The V10 is discontinued back in 2019 except for the Blue Bird Vision school bus. They replace the Boss and Godzilla engine on the Ford Super Duty truck.
And big Ford trucks were never the same since. My parents have a 2002 F-250 Super Duty super cab with the V10, automatic and 4x4 Off Road package; which is used to haul home projects or tow boats.
I just got a 99 6.8 with 200k on it for $3k. Very little rust....nothing that can't be repaired easily....and am looking forward to making it my Alaska truck. 😁
These trucks are starting to become a rarity here in Upstate NY, which us tragic because these are probably one of the greatest Ford trucks ever built. The 2V 5.4's and 6.8's have had their struggles but have proved to be mostly great engines, and the 7.3 Diesel isn't even in question. I grew up in a 2012 F150 and a 2021, and a farmer I worked for had one of these. Rode like it had rocks for wheels lmfao, but felt very solid. Probably one of the best looking Ford trucks imo too. They have a similar frontal appearance to the also popular 92-97 body style, but more variety when it comes to curves. It feels like these trucks were nearly perfect, had it not been for this damned rust belt. I hope to own one someday
I remember hearing rumours that Ford was going to start using different body styles for the F-250 up, at the time it sounded like such a radical idea. My employer had bought around 100 of the 1997 F250s which with the 1998’s were the only years to share that particular body style with the F150, they are a bit of a rare find nowadays.
I grew up in the back seat of a white 1999 F350 Powerstroke Super Cab short bed, it was beautiful when my dad got it in '06 but it soon became a trashed cement company truck. He sold it 2 years ago to a coworker with 386k miles on it and now it has over 410k on it last time I checked and it refuses to die despite being a pile of rust
Holy crap! I wish you could still get 3/4 and 1 ton trucks in the very low $20K range. Those were Camaro Z/28 and Mustang GT type prices back in the late 90's/early 00's. I remember PSD trucks in the 03/04 timeframe commanding over $50K in crewcab/4x4 trim and thinking how ridiculously expensive trucks had gotten.
Recently got a 2000 5.4 V8 XL single cab + 8’ bed MINT from an old guy. 90,000 miles, single owner, not a single scratch on it. Absolute dream to drive. And the truck doesn’t blink with a load of lumber in it. Incredible trucks
Got an o1 f2shity 7.tree diesel. All original Michigan truck 700 thousand miles works construction every day of its life and plowed every winter. Still stroking and purrs like a kitten....13 letter shitspreader....INTERNATIONAL best diesel ever made
I remember getting one of these at work I mean it was the F-450 service body bucket truck but that was the best work truck I ever had with the 7.3 power stroke. I say the best but the 95 F-350 7.3 bucket truck was pretty good also.
Great video have a 01 with a 5.4 406,000 and counting,original engine 2nd transmission, also have a 02 350 with the 7.3 149,000 bought it new have had very few problems with either one of them
Wow, you are one of the very lucky ones to get that kind of mileage out of a 5.4! I can’t even begin to tell you how many sub 200k mile 5.4’s I have replaced for various reasons, whether that be in the 150’s or the super duty’s.
I can just imagine this narrator saying “Hate changing spark plugs? With the 5.4 liter 2 valve engine you won’t have to! The spark plugs will relocate themselves into the underside of your hood!”
you could get a 4x4 superduty in 1999 for under 25k adjusted for inflation thats still only 44k for a 4x4 super duty is great cuz they are double that today!!!
@@stevenbrooks1243 yeah i don’t really think you can call yourself a man if you need to spend double n the samething to feel better about yourself! our culture is so obsessed by status that these idiots will spend 100k on the same ruck 20 years ago was less than half even adjusted for inflation! the only features that i would really want on a luxury car/truck would be sun roof, heated/ac seats, and 4x4. thats all id care to have in as far as comefort features!
The base price of a new 4x2 F250 is $39,445. I would argue that prices have risen because of options. A F250 work truck cost half the price of a typically optioned vehicle. Is that Ford's fault or the customer's?
@@davidmitchell7183 I’d say both ford is going to give them what they want! If I owned a business and someone wanted to give me more money I’m not going to tell them no. They realize that they can keep raising the price and ppl will keep paying. All I ask is they have a classic package that gives you the basic 4x4 work truck for under 30k. It really wouldn’t be that hard just to test the market.
@@mromatic17 Truth is that the manufacturers are selling $80,000 trucks as fast as they can make them at the moment. Give Ford a little credit for the Maverick. It probably isn't enough for you but it would work for a lot of buyers.
5:00 That's really neat that you could get a power-take-off port on the automatic transmission. That makes it a lot more versatile for whatever you would need to use it for. Normally if you're going to convert a newer pickup to a winch truck then you have to make sure it's a manual. The port would be so handy on some of the GM transmissions when converting the pick-ups to winch/boom trucks.
1999 F-250, 7.3 supercab shortbed, 260,000 runs like a FGIN Gladiator. Zero rust, white with silver rockers and Alcoa wheels, never selling this truck.
@@Trashencash unfortunately not my 7.3 truck my 6.0 is I bought the 7.3 cause it was low miles and a good deal I actually don't mind it being a 2wd it's a SC SB I use it as a daily driver it's just kinda fun rowing the gears
@@Trashencash lol interesting enough I just stumbled across it at a used car lot I walked by it and was like oh that's an Ole 7.3 I looked inside and saw the stick in the center and I'm like a 6 SPEED! Week or so later I went and bought it lol if I can ever get the parts I will convert it to a 4wd I have to get a ZF6 for a 4wd truck I can't just add the rear case for the T case adapter. But for now it's cool I limo tinted all the windows and dropped the glare strip a 1/4 way down the windshield it's a good DD and gets honestly over 20 mpg if I drive conservatively
I guess I'm the 400 like on this video. Yes I am a 7.3L Superduty owner 1997 F-Superduty F450 Quigley 4x4 extended cab Dually service truck (15000 GVWR) and a 2000 F350 4x4 Quad Cab Dually (11200 GVWR) that was originally a Dually pickup but the bed rotted out (Upstate NY, NJ, PA, and MD) and one of the previous owners built a 10 ft Flatbed on it. I had a lot of work done to it had the custom flatbed shortened from 10ft to 8' 8" and added a B&W Gooseneck hitch, New Class V Receiver Hitch and Tractor Supply Tool Boxes underneath the bed and added a heavy duty steel rear bumper with fold down steps so I can get up in the bed of the truck. Oh and I also added 5" dual stacks that come up through the bed to a Y right behind the headache rack. still need to replace the rusty oil pan as those are all know to rust out and I have previously tried patching it several times.
Why was the GCWR on these trucks limited to 20,000 lbs? A v10 250 had a higher tow rating than a diesel dually in some configurations due to it being a lighter truck.
A lot of diesel trucks were/are rated lower than the same truck configured with a gas engine due to the weight of the diesel engines. I can pull 10k with my 99 F250, but 16k with a gooseneck or 5th wheel hitch. some of the ratings are based on what the hitch was rated for...Class 3 hitches were only 10k back then....there are class 4 hitches now....cab and bed configurations, 2WD/4WD, short bed, long bed, base model, Lariat model, payload package options, etc. all play a role in the capacities....I think back then too, the numbers were based on GVWR laws possibly.
24 grand? One of these in mint condition low miles would go for 12 grand 22 years later. I thought man these things are gas hogs way back then. Drove many of them at work. The v10 could get up and go though. They were meant for work. Still see them these days tested time with miles and beat up. I went with a ranger back then, because these were huge. The new trucks today are still built and havent deviated much from the ford look, but expensive. The new Chevy trucks look like a vaccum cleaner.
why would anyone want a 3/4 ton or 1 ton and up Superduty Regular Cab with a Short Bed too begin with? You buy a Full Size 3/4 ton or 1 ton and up truck for payload capacity and tow rating.
This is one of my favorite Ford models but alot of them sucked ass with their engines, that's why I went with the GMC Sierra because I love the look. I prefer the 03-06 Sierras but I love Ford too.
Being to young in 99, if I “was” a hard working adult back then a 99 7.3 power stroke was the only choice then. The 2nd one only being the 12 valve Cummins which was discontinued the year prior, an even then it was a dodge, junk built truck. An of course GMs 6.5 was very underwhelming in comparison to Ford an Ram back then. I’ve owned two 99 7.3s an definitely were one of my favorites of all time.
Man, wish I could of bought one of these new, trucks today are no where near as good as they used to be. Especially since they're making trucks ev. That's just asking for problems
Just wait 10 years 1999 people, til Ford epically does an about-face and becomes the biggest offender of making trucks for those who are trying to pretend to be macho. And also, watch out for the new diesels coming out in 2004 people of 1999... you will not like the Powerstroke for over a decade! Hah
You see more 99-03 ford super dutys still on the road today, than any dodge or GM from those years and it is not even close. Dodges rusted out before the next model year came out.
@@DakotaJaegle at least here in the rust belt, I see significantly more OBS, and "Super Duty" generation Ford still on the road than the 2nd Gen Cummins trucks. I barely see any dodges pre 2003.
Ford junk. The 5.4 in these trucks was so underpowered for the class I have no idea why they offered it other than the fact that Ford was screwed at this time with no bigger displacement V8s, forcing people into the also doggy and inefficient v10. Only way to go was the 7.3 power stroke. One of the best engines Ford has offered in the last 30 years, partially because the designed obsolescence Ford is famous for wasn't in it due to it being a Navistar design.
Completely agree. The v10 was a pretty strong engine but a dodge v10 got similar mileage and would run circles around the ford. They are also oversized and overly complicated because of the stupid OHC design. Overhead cams do not belong anywhere near a pickup truck engine. I’m actually in the process of removing a v10 out of a super duty at work right now because the dipstick rotted in half and the dipshits at ford decided to put it behind the oil cooler and behind the motor mount so there is no way to drill out the dipstick hole with the engine in the chassis. It’s funny how it’s always ford that is doing stupid shit like that.
