+abracing199 It took me years to find a good ST165 after selling my old one in a fit of weakness. They're out there, but they aren't easy to find. Very much worth it if you find a good one, or a nightmarish ordeal if you find one that's had the stuffing beaten and modded out of it.
I owned a '90 for several years. I named her the cash sponge. While it definitely was cool being able to say that I owned one of the cars that I'd always wanted, I can't really recommend it. They're a very needy car, and as most if not all have been molested over the past quarter century, finding one that doesn't need a complete restoration is a tall order. My '92 GT-S on the other hand was a CHAMP. Every option that the ST185 had, minus the turbo and AWD of course, and absolutely none of the headaches. In a moment of sheer stupidity I traded that car for a new 7th gen Celica in '00. The disappointment was palpable. Of all the cars that I've owned over the years, that GT-S is the one I'd want back.
You must have owned a lemon, I bought my first ST185 almost 9 years ago and all that went on it was rear struts and the Rad (due to mixing the coolant wrong and freezing over winter)
Tim Beals You could say that. I'll spare you the back story as it's painful to recall the stupid money that was poured into that thing. Suffice it to say that I do not miss my All-Trac, but I'd buy my '92 GT-S back in a heartbeat.
Roddy Dykes Yeah, Nissan today is just a shadow of its former self. Their cars nowadays are completely unreliable with those CVT engines and the company is experiencing severe financial turmoil at the moment.
And yet this video is 1989 and many of those great cars, were the product of Toyota’s 1980s ambitions since it takes 4-6 YEARS to develop new models. As soon as the 90s hit, they started regressing and saving that engineering greatness for flagship models and dumbing down everything else.
I would say they were better in the 80s- Rear drive Corolla, aw11 mr2, 4wd Tercel, rear drive and all trac celica, Cressida, 1st gen 4Runner, fj60 land cruiser that you could still get with a mt, the original Toyota van, introduction of the Supra, and Corolla and Camry wagons with a mt available
I remember when you bought a Japanese car because it was different, because the Japanese had designed it. I'd love to go back to the late 80s and buy all those Japanese cars over.
I had a new 1991 Celica ST a lifetime ago. I bought a JDM 1992 GT-Four (AllTrac) last year. These are amazing cars, still. With the chip shortage, Toyota would do well to reintroduce simpler, more supply-chain safe cars of this sort. The review has the weight issue of the AllTrac/GT-Four dead on. They're heavy and heavy in the front. But if you lighten up the chassis a hundred or so pounds--no sunroof, no ABS, no System 10 amp, lightweight battery, carbon fiber hood, rear seat and spare tire delete--they tighten up. Add a little horsepower through boost and you have a zoomer.
1:23 I would probably jizz if I saw a lineup of 4 clean celicas like that today. Awesome teen memories of owning a black GT about as clean as the ones shown.
How in the world could Toyota NOT continue the celica nameplate ??? They are sleeping on a huge market and cult following that the celica has. Toyota is sleeping on their own heritage. They were so well rounded as a brand back then. I would give anything to see these models back in the show room floor.
Toyota4Life imagine a Celica GT-4 comeback as a competitor for the STi, RS, and Golf R, I probably wouldn’t buy one for at least 5 years after it was new, but it would be very exciting to see on the market again.
st notchbacks were horrible! gt notchback included! I had a GT-S and was a wonderful car :-) one of the problems with all these celicas is no railing to stop the water from getting in your car while traveling with windows down when washing your winshield :-(
I can't believe that's what my car looked like 25 years and 300,000 miles ago. I wish I could've bought it brand new and just kept it in bubble wrap. Anyone here notice how well these things drive in the snow? or is it just me?
Devin Prasad Frick...if I would of known that I would of build a time machine to go there! Lol....Oh well, I am still happy enough with my 2008 Corolla 😊
I also miss the interior colors. Manufacturers need to bring back those blue, oxblood and othet colors. The same old black, grey and tan is so boring !!
+A Scott This is a serious problem that needs to be addressed by manufactures. Modern interiors feel synthetic and lifeless: interiors 25 years ago had as much style and design as some exteriors do today.
Speaking as the owner of an 85pype Supra with an brown dash, oxblood underdash, and blue door panels. I would prefer black. They're so cheesy, the brown I could see but blue is no go. I wish they had better quality plastics, or simpler dashes
Ahhh, 90s cars. Full of innovation, distinction and fun !! I'll take that Celica All Track in black with the oxblood interior, 5 speed. I miss the great cars that the 90s gave us. Supra, Legend, Celica All Track, Vigor, NSX, 3000GT VR4, 300ZX, RX7 ect...
You forgot my 1991 MR2 Turbo! It’s not as precise a car as my 1994 Celica GT4 (Tho it has the same turbocharged engine) or my V8 powered 1997 Lexus LS400, however it is more visceral and infinitely more interesting to drive. All are amazing vehicles with high performance barely reduced by over 250k miles of virtually maintenance free ownership. I keep trying to buy a newer car but nothing currently available feels as real or fun to drive.
Still got my 1992 Celica. First and only car i bought all the way back in 2004. 16 Years later and i still enjoy driving it and it's approaching 400,000kms!
My mom bought a 1990Celica All-Trac turbo new.I have fond memories as a teenager driving the piss out of that little car.That thing would take off like a damn rocket,and I surprised more than one Camaro owner in short red light to red light races.That was a great little car.
I had a 91 GT 5 speed coupe in the 90s. Excellent car that I took to 200K miles and had no major problems with at all. It still had the factory installed starter and master cylinder working at that mileage. The worst thing about the car was the hinge design for the trunk lid on the standard coupe. The hinge would break and the corner of the trunk lid made contact with the body of the car. The power antenna was also prone to failure. The 5SFE was bulletproof in every way. You could even break the timing belt and do no harm.
You better believe those engines were bullet proof! My '92 GT-S was the most reliable (fun) car I've ever owned. Oil changes, tires and replace the battery every 5 years or so. My '90 All-Trac with the ST185, not so much :(
Shoot, I love every model of Toyota mentioned in this video -- Celica, Previa, AE92 Corolla, Land Cruiser, Pickup (I daily drive a '94 22re 4x4 XtraCab). No mention of the Supra but obviously I love that too Lol
+Klasse Act There was a time when even the most ordinary car could be selected with 3, 4 or 5 different interiors. Now you might have a choice of cloth or leather- what a pity.
@@1northsparrow246 And no velour :( Its so much better than leather for me but nowadays its either bad quality cloth or leather :/ Alcantara isnt like it either and its high premium when velour was lovely middle ground superbly durable, soft and plush to touch and didnt heat up like leather would. Best of all the materials.
Man. The Celica stands out like a sore thumb in the 1990 Toyota lineup. I don't think it was till 1992-93 that most of Toyota's car lineup better paired up to the styling of the Celica. The early 90's was a big transition period in styling for automakers.
This was the summer of 1989, so all those cars had been designed and were being put into testing. The Celica was designed in 1987, as was the new Previa, MR2, and Land Cruiser.
All trac barely mentioned. Turns out to be one of the best enthusiast cars ever and dominates wrc...asleep at the wheel or what like they didn't even drive it
I bought mine off my best friend. He was going to donate it to goodwill because the brakes were messed up. I gave him $250 for it and fixed it up. Runs great with over 190,000 miles and will always be my favorite car. I drive it less now because I'm scared that it could break down randomly and i'd have to have it scrapped, but eventually once I get enough money I'll have it fully restored and put a new engine in it.
Kind of miss the old days of predictable automotive evolution. Every generation the Japanese would release slight upgrades in engine power, suspension, transmission, appearance, etc. Somewhere along the way, that practice died, and cars became appliances. Now it takes disruption and evolution for anyone to notice.
Excellent! My first car was a 1992 Celica GT that I bought from my grandfather. When I had kids, it went to my great aunt, and from there, my uncle. He's still driving it with about 125,000 miles on the odometer.
Had a 93 Celica GT for 6 years... Best car I've ever owned. Very well built, prefect seating position, and decent gas mileage. I really miss her. : T That being said, I wanted an All Trac and still do. Id rather have something I truly love and find uniquely beautiful than just another Evo or STi. Besides, the All Trac/GTFour came before them anyway. : )
Notice how all of the Asian sports cars back then has MANUAL transmissions? Now it is hard to even find one that offers a manual, they are all automatic.
Such nice plush looking red interior, and the sweet clean look of the exterior! I love the way Toyota had put on the side mirriors....talk about arrow dynamic indeed!
90s definitely best years for Toyota , the Supra came out in 93 i believe and we all know that became a legend thanks to the 2000 movie Fast and Furious Paul Walker would not have looked as good driving any other car.
Think Toyota has always just built Avalons, Camrys, & Corollas?!!!!! NAY NAY!!!!!! There was a time, in the 80's & '90's, when they built cars that kicked some SERIOUS ASS, & this 1990 lineup is surely a fine representation of that!!!!!
It was the early 1980s, when the Japanese car companies "invaded" the North American market. By 1990, assembly plants in North America had already opened for certain makes and models. Still, the world headquarters are elsewhere.
Love them cars. I had 3. The ST which I sold in a month to make a quick buck and 2 GTS. I regret selling them now. 26 years later. Such great handling those cars
Definitely great things to come for 1990, but one can tell this episode is from 1989 as the Celica came out that fall and the ‘91 models the following March.
You guys sure loved Asheville back in the day. I just wish there was a larger appreciation of good cars around here. It's all Subarus, Volvos and Priuses.
I recently own a '92 Celica GT convertible. It is one of the best cars that I've owned so far and I've driven more expensive cars like the Porsche 944 and BMW 3 series E30 and E90 models. I also like the fact it is a rare car, yet so easy to find parts for.
wow what a trip. i owned a 1990 celica ST and had that exact interior and very similar paint. honestly i am not trying to promote my channel or anything but i do have videos of my celica doing some flybys on my channel. i think it was recorded in 2004ish. i installed a cheap intake and it actually sounded pretty good!
a lot of legendary cars appearing and disappearing around this time... Toyota really had it all together. hopefully we are now on the cusp of a new era what with the 86 and supra set to return... It'd be cool if they also brought a more conventional tercel like sub compact into the market to replace the yaris.
Euro and US versions were strange. JDM versions didnt have small 4A and agricultural 5S engines and DRUM brakes, oh God! Only 2.0 16-valve 3S-FE,GE,GTE engines from 125 to 235 Hp. So, JDM versions were sporty even with weakest 1st gen 3S-FE. I have found, toyota even put 7A-FE engine in nextgen Euro/US FWD Celica. Its awful, because this weak overbored engine was made for cheap Carina/Corona family sedan.
I got a 92/93 GTS me first toy =} But it's SO rough (suspension) and dog slow ={ The ratios are freaking short too But the exhaust so beefy upswept makes lil bubbly backfire sounds o.0 Red with black liftback .. sick
IMHO 1989 was the best year for Toyota in America. After that they started to listen to their marketing department and watered all the NA market designs down on what the thought Americans would like.. I miss the quirky and awesome JAPANESE cars we got in the early years of import cars!
+audioisgood I liked 1994 the best, It had the best over all line up IMHO. Mk IV Supra-320HP 3gen GT-FOUR WRC-265HP 2gen MR2 GTS-240HP 1gen Altezza RS200-200HP
I think that started happening in the early 90s, as 1986-91 had Toyota approve so many high quality designs for production. The 1991-92 crash changed all of that for redesigns, as that first affected 1995+ models.
