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@EastCoastATV
@EastCoastATV 8 лет назад
I bought a 1984 325e in 1998 and it had 173,000 miles on it at the time. I had it until 2008 and drove it until it had 260,000 miles. It never burned any oil, and I couldn't believe the gas mileage. It was plenty gutsy and handled great. I could kick myself for selling that car.
@willzer808
@willzer808 8 лет назад
there's no way you should have sold iit
@LorenzoClara97
@LorenzoClara97 8 лет назад
Better gas mileage than the 318/318is?
@kakaroto3419
@kakaroto3419 6 лет назад
Noooooooo, what did you do !!!!
@touchedouche8806
@touchedouche8806 4 месяца назад
Ive had my es for about 13 years now. Driving it this week
@nutsackmania
@nutsackmania 9 лет назад
The instant torque from the 2.7L stroker was so ridiculous--I've never owned a car that could drift in such a carefree manner in the rain.
@kingjaf
@kingjaf 9 лет назад
nutsackmania In the snow with real snow tires you could drive it sideways for blocks at a time and flick it with to the other side with wrist action only.
@raymondnewbill2748
@raymondnewbill2748 9 лет назад
My first car was a flawless one owner 325e with only a 140k miles. The car was still the most fun car to drive I have owned. It would literally walk sideways anywhere you wanted!!! I later bought a 325i and found it less fun to drive. I need another one..... Lol
@stevenlindsey2056
@stevenlindsey2056 3 года назад
I had an 89 model. I used to drift off ramps before drifting was a thing.
@Ferraridude13
@Ferraridude13 3 года назад
@@raymondnewbill2748 interesting you say the i was less fun than the e
@geemanbmw
@geemanbmw Год назад
I had a 1986 325es 2dr white/ black interior 5 speed... the most reliable fun to drive and drifting was stupid easy the car was balanced for it from the get go. I bought mine with 105k miles and sold it with just under 300k miles and the only bad thing that happened was that 2.7 motor had a timing belt. When the 189hp 325i came out they went back to timing chain.. oh also if other eta owners remember even though we had power windows and sun roof you could also crank open the windows and sunroof if we lost power 👍🏻and on the drivers door it said made in West Germany 🇩🇪
@LearnAboutFlow
@LearnAboutFlow 5 лет назад
This car's specs may seem lame by today's standards, but you really have to drive one to understand how it works so well. I had a used one and it was one of the best cars I've ever owned.
@Mr335iBMW
@Mr335iBMW 9 лет назад
This is the only time I have ever seen John Davis actually driving the car during the review.
@kz1000ps
@kz1000ps 9 лет назад
Mr335iBMW Yeah seriously. I wish they would've done that more.
@myintegruns12s51
@myintegruns12s51 9 лет назад
Mr335iBMW He drove a Honda HR-V last week.
@ma3zf
@ma3zf 9 лет назад
Mr335iBMW He also did either the Pontiac Aztec or Chrysler PT Cruiser in 2000/01. I forgot which one. P.S. The MW reviews of those two have been put up.
@WhateverHappenedToFun
@WhateverHappenedToFun 7 лет назад
Check 1982 Lincoln Continental review... he drives for dayz!
@misled1982
@misled1982 7 лет назад
He reviwed the 82' Mazda
@1984AP
@1984AP 5 лет назад
Love the early E30 design - the taillights, bumpers, fogs. Really nice example here. No ugly oversize wheels or exhaust like on the E30s at shows today. Perfect balance and proportion.
@pommesmayo7336
@pommesmayo7336 4 года назад
these bumpers are ugly. look the E30 with the EU bumpers
@1984AP
@1984AP 4 года назад
@@pommesmayo7336 In the US from 1973-1995, we were very used to seeing US and Foreign cars with large bumpers. For example, seeing a Euro E28 in 1990 in the US - looked so odd, it looked like the car was in an accident, due to the tiny bumpers.
@brenthatesashley
@brenthatesashley 4 года назад
I still like the 318i. I like the fact that it was simple and straightforward. The interior was cloth with manual windows and sunroof. It had just enough equipment for a basic performance car.
@davecom3
@davecom3 Год назад
It was just as fast as the 325e, especially in 318is guise. Fit the final drive from a 318/320 auto gearbox and you have a midrange similar to the 325i
@84impalaguy
@84impalaguy 7 лет назад
Funny how the 325E with the 2.7 litre six got the same mileage as the last year 318 with the 1.8 litre four. I'm assuming the smaller engine was overworked due to weak power, hence the fuel economy matching that of the larger car/ engine.
@Coolnerdloser
@Coolnerdloser 4 года назад
@@GlennC789 Hi guys. I'll chime in here real quick. My first car (1st one actually put in MY name.) was a 1984 318i (This was 1991.) . Automatic. 1.8L 4 . I will concur with the notion about fuel efficiency. I'm pretty sure the auto only had 3 (yes 3) gears. No overdrive, which means at 60mph (in last gear) it would turn almost 3500 rpm. Not shocked to hear the 6 cyl. later got the same mpg. Over time it got kind of annoying revving that high for that long, especially on road trips. (Going 80 mph it was approaching 4000 rpm). To say that I ever got 28 mpg would be a stretch, maybe at 55 for an extended period of time. It just revved way too high. I would also add that under load, my auto really sucked wind. In the summer, with the A/C on, and a car load full of people, you'd better say your prayers if you had to pass anybody on a 2-lane highway with 2-way traffic. "Fuhgeddaboudit". My friend at the same time had an '84 318i also but his was a 5 sp. manual. Quicker, lower revs at almost any speed, probably better mpg too. More pleasant on the highway certainly (in 5th). He actually turned me on to a "beamer", and I almost bought his before I bought mine. After a few years I kinda regretted not getting his instead (his had 1 or 2 issues at the time but......). Never drove one with a 6 cyl. (325, etc.) I would've loved to see the difference.
@louvendran7273
@louvendran7273 3 года назад
@@Coolnerdloser The difference was night and day. The 6 cylinder autos were extremely thirsty though.
@bvedant
@bvedant 7 лет назад
2:30 did John actually say "Gertag" 😂
@dhatchbernier
@dhatchbernier 6 лет назад
Vedant B I actually convinced myself I had been pronouncing it wrong for 35 years!
@mcximus
@mcximus 5 лет назад
I had an 86 325e(4 door) it was a nice car. I remembered if you drive in the wet and turn and brake, the 325e will spin. I'd done it so many time. I'm surprised I didn't crash
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
Hola
@ricksays7133
@ricksays7133 9 лет назад
Wow, it was one of the most fuel economic cars back then, and even today if maintained and tuned properly.
@fernandorocha8459
@fernandorocha8459 Год назад
This BMW325E is economic car
@jnbfrancisco
@jnbfrancisco 2 года назад
I rented a 1989 318 in Sicily. It was the most fun car to drive I have ever driven. The steering feel in the turns was most pleasing. The reving engine coupled with great feel of the 5 speed was just great.
@gary_beniford
@gary_beniford 9 лет назад
I love BMWs and these reviews are great
@Lenoch_
@Lenoch_ 7 лет назад
"BEE-EM-DUB-EH-YA"
@FrenchValleyAirport
@FrenchValleyAirport 7 лет назад
I was looking for this comment LOOOOOOOOOOOL
@UHOH3300
@UHOH3300 6 лет назад
Own an '85 euro spec 325e. Can't wait to get it running and driving!!!
@mrpistonrecaro6483
@mrpistonrecaro6483 5 лет назад
Same here. I have an 88 325is
@BrendanMacWade
@BrendanMacWade 9 лет назад
The E30 comes of age (and goes above my budget for nearly 20 years). But this is the start of that magnificent E30 run that ended in 1995.
@myintegruns12s51
@myintegruns12s51 9 лет назад
Oriental lol. Gotta love the 80s.
@ricksays7133
@ricksays7133 9 лет назад
Myintegruns12s Funny he said that back then because when the E90 and E92 hit the market, I thought its styling looked a bit Japanese.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 года назад
Or. Ornamental !
@davidvalenzuela4529
@davidvalenzuela4529 9 лет назад
Here's a MotorWeek Retro Review of the BMW E30 325e from 1984.
@doublevanoz
@doublevanoz 5 лет назад
I had a 325e coupe with good tires on 15s, lowering springs, shocks, sway bar & z3 steering rack. I miss the lazy torquey motor and QUICK response, I could floor it everywhere and not break the law. But still enjoyed bc the torque, wayyy more enjoyable than any buzzy anemic 4cyl.. exceot the m10😉
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 5 лет назад
Wow a 121hp engine, hot rod indeed My friend has a much worked on E30 325i and it’s a lot of fun, LSD swap so he does tons of drifting and general hooning around, less than 200hp but feels like more in such a tiny, light car
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 4 года назад
Missing gauges for Volts and oil pressure! John’s pet peeves over the decades...
@kresienm9031
@kresienm9031 5 лет назад
In South Africa we had a 333i which had a chrome bumper and a 325is which had the bigger plastic bumper
@brianhartsaxcovers625
@brianhartsaxcovers625 Год назад
E30 design is timeless and beautiful
@bvedant
@bvedant 14 дней назад
The key to these luxury cars is to buy them lightly used for a good depreciation chunk off that new car MSRP.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 2 года назад
I'm an E28/tii guy but I had a modded E30 eta for awhile. I loved it.
@MarkMeadows90
@MarkMeadows90 9 лет назад
At the 5:00 mark, 190 MPH? You kidding me? LOL
@dontreplykillyourself8816
@dontreplykillyourself8816 9 лет назад
LOL WOW ZOMG ROFLCOPTERS HAHA!!!
@Coolnerdloser
@Coolnerdloser 4 года назад
Hi guys. I'll chime in here real quick. My first car (1st one actually put in MY name.) was a 1984 318i (This was 1991.) . Automatic. 1.8L 4 . I will concur with the notion about fuel efficiency. I'm pretty sure the auto only had 3 (yes 3) gears. No overdrive, which means at 60mph (in last gear) it would turn almost 3500 rpm. Not shocked to hear the 6 cyl. later got the same mpg. Over time it got kind of annoying revving that high for that long, especially on road trips. (Going 80 mph it was approaching 4000 rpm). To say that I ever got 28 mpg would be a stretch, maybe at 55 for an extended period of time. It just revved way too high. I would also add that under load, my auto really sucked wind. In the summer, with the A/C on, and a car load full of people, you'd better say your prayers if you had to pass anybody on a 2-lane highway with 2-way traffic. "Fuhgeddaboudit". My friend at the same time had an '84 318i also but his was a 5 sp. manual. Quicker, lower revs at almost any speed, probably better mpg too. More pleasant on the highway certainly (in 5th). He actually turned me on to a "beamer", and I almost bought his before I bought mine. After a few years I kinda regretted not getting his instead (his had 1 or 2 issues at the time but......). Never drove one with a 6 cyl. (325, etc.) I would've loved to see the difference.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
Y
@jamesm654
@jamesm654 Год назад
The styling? Looks great. Early 80's BMW was they best they ever looked. Haven't liked BMW since
@Dennis-du4jh
@Dennis-du4jh Год назад
Who wouldve thought that a sub 10 second 0-60 would be possible in an entry level BMW, thats supercar territory. Almost as fast as the ferrari 308
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
CON MAS MEMORIA DE PALABRAS HUMILLO
@TheTechCguy
@TheTechCguy 4 года назад
I actually like these cars a lot! You can drive them in, pretty much, loads of places in the world. As long as it's on a road, narrow or wide. These older 3 series cars were solid rides that can last a very long time, with care. Albeit not necessarily the most powerful or safest, still a great start to what would be today's cars. Economy, luxury, and likewise: these cars.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
IGUAL DE DOMINANTES COMO EN LA PREHISTORIA ELLAS SUMISAS HOMBRE DOMINANTE QUE SEA SU COMPORTAMIENTO
@vj5225
@vj5225 Год назад
To start at $21,000 back in 83 was a lot of money. I'm sure the car gave you all the comfort creatures you wanted though. For BMWs it's best to wait 3 years after production to buy. Way cheaper.
@dylanrc2994
@dylanrc2994 5 месяцев назад
The BMW e30 is a wonderful car. My choice is a convertible after the facelift. Definitely with a six-cylinder engine 😉
@tymobyrne4451
@tymobyrne4451 Год назад
I have this car in a 5 speed version, Mum got it new in 1984. Rust free runs like a top only 80,000 miles just broken in. Can get 40mpg if you try, amazing,
@sammyt3514
@sammyt3514 Год назад
Never sell that car; it's a gem.
@thewiseguy3529
@thewiseguy3529 Год назад
Great machine ✨
@jameskerherve7487
@jameskerherve7487 4 года назад
Drives me nuts I never knew you could control the trip computer from the turn signal stalk control.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
YA ESTOY ULTRA ORGULLOSO DE MI MISMO SOLO SE VIVE UNA VEZ ALEGRIA 2.022
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
Hay que estar en ese objetivo en cualquier pais que yo este
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
SIN MAS INFINITA INTELIGENCIA NO HAY MAS IMVENTOS
@whoohaaXL
@whoohaaXL 9 лет назад
The E stood for efficiency...Made with lighter, yet weaker engine internals...Hence the 5000 redline.
@kevinpatrickmacnutt
@kevinpatrickmacnutt 9 лет назад
Not true, it was basically a gas powered engine geared like a diesel. I had a 1982 BMW 528e with that engine and managed to get 320,000 miles out of it. Modified, it's also the engine used in the Alpina cars from that era.
@whoohaaXL
@whoohaaXL 9 лет назад
Kevin MacNutt You might wanna look that up..... This car definitely had different internals than the staple Inline-6 they regularly always used, Nothing to do with diesel gearing. Diesels are geared that way because of the engine's powerband being over by 3000 rpm max (in most cases) This cars engine had FOUR cam bearnings (instead of 7 as usual BMWS I6's) Also a more restrictive head AND SINGLE valve springs instead of double coil. Thus the weaker internals AND lower redline. This PARTICULAR engine was made this way, as I am well aware that their tried and true I-6 in everything else was the basis for their race engines.
@whoohaaXL
@whoohaaXL 7 лет назад
The 2693 cc M20B27 was designed for efficiency (thus the e for the Greek letter eta in 325e) and low-rev torque.[25] Compared with the M20B25, the stroke is increased from 75 mm (3.0 in) to 81 mm (3.2 in).[24] The B27 used the head casting of '200' which had smaller valves, different camshafts, fewer cam journals, and single valve springs to increase efficiency. Due to these changes the rev limit on the B27 was reduced.Power output is 121 hp (90 kW) at 4,250 rpm for M20B27 engines produced up until 1986 and 127 hp (95 kW) at 4,800 rpm for the "325es" model produced in 1987.[24] Peak torque is 170 lb·ft (230 N·m) at 3,250 rpm for M20B27 engines. In 1987, the fuel injection was upgraded from Motronic 1.0 to Motronic 1.1/1.3.[24] In the early 1990's BMW South Africa used components from the Alpina C3 2.7 to produce a E30 specifically for Stannic Group N production car racing. The first iteration of this engine used in the E30 325iS produced 145kw and the second revision, often referred to as "Evo2" or on the VIN plate as "HP2" produced 155kw
@charlesmacgilchrist3648
@charlesmacgilchrist3648 6 лет назад
Net max power was at 4250 so it was over by 4800 anyway. The auto used less fuel at 75mph than a manual 318i because of the longer gearing.
@MetikalMan
@MetikalMan 2 года назад
It’s quite interesting they didn’t name this 328e. Considering the same engine is used in the 528e.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
La antena torturadora en los oceanos como el titanic (telegrafo) esta en todo el planeta
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 6 лет назад
Check control and electronically monitored servicing schedule!? In 1983.... that must have seemed space age back then. Though 121hp from the 2.7 liter isn't very impressive.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
EL UNIVERSO DIOS
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
CRECER EN MEMORIA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
EL UNICO CAMINO BUENOS AIRES ARGENTINA■■■■■■■■■■■
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
INEXISTENCIA DEL SER HUMANO
@toms_garage
@toms_garage 4 года назад
Love the E30, great video!
@luxurreview
@luxurreview 4 года назад
0-60 in 9 seconds while the Cadillac Cimarron did it in 14 seconds. The interior in the BMW was ahead of Its time. What was Cadillac thinking i
@AnthonyJSollitto
@AnthonyJSollitto 9 лет назад
Great review, did you guys test the 528e and 533i of this era?
@pbfloyd13
@pbfloyd13 9 лет назад
5:49 Someone's been watching Top Gear...;-)
@MrCarGuy
@MrCarGuy 9 лет назад
You must be quite a special child.
@pbfloyd13
@pbfloyd13 9 лет назад
MrCarGuy20 I like to think so...
@David-ee6lk
@David-ee6lk 7 лет назад
I'm considering getting one of these for a daily driver
@losh330
@losh330 5 лет назад
OMG. MY EYES ARE BLEEDING FROM THE AMERICAN REQUIRED BUMPERS!
@nunyabizness8226
@nunyabizness8226 5 лет назад
Lucian Spampinato You're out of your mind. Diving board bumpers are period perfect.
@compu85
@compu85 3 года назад
@@nunyabizness8226 Bumpers that are designed to bump!
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
COMERCIO AMBULANTE EN SUECIA CON PROVIDENCIA Y GENTE APOYA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
EXISTEN DIOS EL UNIVERSO Y TECNOLOGIA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
El hombre tiene practicamente el mismo (ci) inteligencia que un caballo un gato un perro
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
PERIODO CHACABUCO 99 Y CHACABUCO DE AL FRENTE ■■HAY QUE COMBATIR POR LA RIQUEZA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
HAY MUCHOS PERSEGUIDOS QUE CREEN QUE LA MAGIA EXISTE SEUDO MAGIA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
■TORTURA A LA REINA DALE SIN PIEDAD
@charlesmacgilchrist3648
@charlesmacgilchrist3648 6 лет назад
Little wonder bmw became popular in the us post fuel crisis with cars like these.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
LA PLATA MUEVE AL MUNDO
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
MEMORIA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
La carrera en chile con mas demanda 2021 (software)
@pbfloyd13
@pbfloyd13 8 лет назад
@ 2:20 is that a Bitter?
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
EL MAGNETISMO ARTIFICIAL FLAGELA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
[[[[[[HAY QUE GOZAR YO [[[[[ ESTOY EXELENTE [[[[ CON ESTA INFORMACION [[[[[[[[[
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
EL MUNDO MAGNETISMO NATURAL
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
■■■■ EL MUNDO ES EL QUE FLAGELA A TODOS CON ESA IDEA GUEONA
@almorgan3462
@almorgan3462 7 лет назад
Looking for 325E30 Side marker lights frame
@trp5530
@trp5530 3 года назад
"Oriental aerodynamic" :-D
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
ESXTINCION DEL SER HUMANO
@rickyfrazier8476
@rickyfrazier8476 4 года назад
I have an 04 BMW 330 CIC which I like a whole lot, my wife’s aunt and uncle had an 87 or 88 325 ES or IS that they bought new that I asked them to sell to me when they were ready to sell it but they sold it to someone else or traded it on another vehicle.
@guinnessharvey4476
@guinnessharvey4476 2 месяца назад
Oriental aerodynamic?:)
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
ME INDEPENDIZO EN UN LUGAR LO MAS CHICO Y BARATO POSIBLE LA PLANTA CABAÑA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
LOS GESTOS Y EXPRECIONES SICOLOGICAS
@alfamonk
@alfamonk 9 лет назад
5000rpm? This was the economy tuned 325? We had a 525e in the UK but the 325 had a 2.5 IIRC
@1kingtiger3
@1kingtiger3 6 лет назад
alfamonk yes. Economy Tuned. Because of old Oil Crisis, a Gas was still more expensive than before
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
LO MEJOR NO EXISTEN LAS MALDICIONES
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
NO HAY QUE DARLES CONFIANZA SON COMO EL HERMANO DE ALONSO
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
8 DE 10 NO QUIEREN LA INEXISTENCIA DEL HOMBRE
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
LA PLATA ES LO QUE MUEVE AL MUNDO PORQUE EL MUNDO ASI LO QUIERE
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
SON SOLO LLAMADOS GENIOS LOS GENIOS NO EXISTEN
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
TAMBIEN HAY BUENOS Y BUENAS
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
LA COMPUTACION ES FISICA LAS 2 HARDWARE Y SOFTWARE
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
■■■■■ FISICA■■■■
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
NO EXISTE EL FUTURO NI EL PASADO __ PLATA AL MES__
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
MANTENERSE EN EL PODER EL HOMBRE . APLASTA Y HACE SUFRIR AL HOMBRE ESO ES TODO PISAR___PISAR____
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
1 DE LOS 50 SEUDO REYES DE LAS RIQUESAS DEL PLANETA 50 REYES COMO HACEN TODA LA RIQUEZA DE L MUNDO VENGANZA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
MORIR = SER UNA COSA MATERIAL UNO ES UNA COSA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
HOMBRE DOMINANTE CON LAS PERSONAS COMO MAYER LES GUSTA A LAS MUJERES
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
AGUANTO UNA SEMANA ENTERA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
■■■■■■■■■■■■■ TOMA GUEON MENOSPRECIANDOME ME DIJO EL PAPITO
@bobratu9029
@bobratu9029 5 лет назад
that is a car.period.
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
ME VENGO CONTINUAMENTE
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
SIN REMORDIMIENTO
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
HAS EL VIDEO LLEGA HA 10M DE VISITAS Y LISTO
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
NADIE PARA A LOS 2.000M DE GUIAS
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
TAMBIEN QUE SEPA LA GENTE QUE SOY MALO COMO EL GUIA ESTAMOS EL TODOS LOS HOMBRES EN GUERRA DAÑAR LO MAXIMO A LOS BUENOS
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
■■■FISICOS FISICA CIENCIA■■■ QUEDO ESTANCADA LA TECNOLOGIA EN AVION 1958 Y EN AUTO 1972
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
NADA DE MAMON MAMA Y NADA DE MAMON PAPA
@jorgegomez1816
@jorgegomez1816 2 года назад
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