I was at this Mobil gas station in Hazleton, PA, right off of I-81, and saw the Motorweek crew pull in with this exact car, a Viper, and a Ferrari 512TR. Met Craig Singhaus. They were on their way to test these at Pocono Raceway. 😁
The quintessential grand tourer. Looks, speed, comfort, all in excess. They still look futuristic and unique, they're still fast by today's standards (although not mind-blowingly so), and their seats are the most comfortable I've ever felt on a car. They're just amazing machines.
Compared to today's V8s, the 928 is underpowered. Plus the styling comes from the mid/late 70s. Also, those are the most expensive Porsche to maintain, minus the latest rare Porsches.
@@vinzclortho7766 Underpowered? This car comes from the era of emissions-choked V8's that barely put out 150HP.... If you had 300-350HP back in the 80's or even early 90's, I would say it's comparable to having 600-650HP today. Also, the market for cars like these is pretty much limited to collectors and enthusiasts, they won't really care about the maintenance costs or how it compares to a newer car. It's all about the experience.
I've had a white 1983 S manual and a silver 1987 S4 manual. I fell in love with these cars when I was in my early twenties, and even though I have also had a BMW M3, and driven various exotic cars, the 928 is the car that I think about often and really miss. I sold the S4 when I went overseas to work for a year, but am sorry now that I did, and wish I had kept it. The 928 has everything - beautiful styling, massive power and an awesome V8 sound, unbelievably solid build quality, and it feels special when you sit in its perfectly designed seats. I reached 257kmh easily in the S4, and the speed was still climbing, but unfortunately a car was up ahead, and I thought the driver might have a heart attack if a Porsche rocketed past him at that speed! Like any high performance car, they are costly to maintain, but worth every penny. Definitely one of Porsche's best cars!
Yeah, I learned that years ago. I hope they come out with a new 928. I loved this car when I was young, but I was a fan of all the Porsches then also except the 914. I watched the Tom Cruise movie, can't remember the title, just to see the 928.....😂😂😂. Just remembered "Risky Business". There was another movie with guy from 90210 when he was gifted a 928. The garage door opened and the headlights popped up from the dark and rolled out was the 928.
Porsche is garbage overrated junk that you have to be rich to maintain those unreliable boring looking garbage. I know, I owned one like that, biggest junk ever made
one of my dream cars that i lusted after as a kid but never got to own..the test drives were a blast though! id be nervous abt shifting the funky gear pattern and eager to sneak away from the dealers line of site before letting the v8 rip to its redline...id love one now, and they Are affordable at this point...problem is they are Old and full of headaches i dont want to tackle..how lucky are those who can buy Any new dream car new and enjoy the troublefree miles before the problems begin.. gorgeous,classy looking car...timeless
Christopher Leveck im serisouly thinking of trading my 2011 buick lacrosse for a 87 928 s4 , the trade in value would basically pay for the whole car ..im just worried about the price of maintenance ,hows it been for you? any major repairs and if so hlw pricey can it get.
Don't get me wrong, i really want to give you a kick ass answer but it depends on so many things. The best thing you can do is find some guys in your area that have them and ask them to help you find one. It all depends on the car. You want one that has always been maintained. These cars a lot of the time were kept by the same guy and serviced at the same place then sold to a guy from that area and serviced at the same place. Thats what you want. One with a documented history. They dont like to sit. Thats been my experience. You want one that was driven regularly. These cars will run forever if taken care of. They are kind of hard to kill. But you have to stay on top of them. When you have an issue, fix it. Because another small thing is coming. Don't let them build up. The more you fix the little things the more comfortable you become with working on the car. There is lots of help out there if you ask for it. If its your first one, dont get a fixer upper. There are plenty of cars in need of saving and you can do that later. Make sure you understand the machine before you get one that has to be restored or revived. I personally am a big lover of the S4. But they have some quirks. Electrical issues mostly. But the good news is once fixed, if done right, should last another 30 years. The timing belt is the biggy. It is a cheap part but it requires removing the front half of the engine in kind of tight quarters in an area surrounded by soft aluminum body panels you dont want to touch with a tool while your ripping things out of the engine bay and then shoe horning them back into place. If not done, correctly, and in a timely manner that little bastard can break and ruin your entire porsche experience. But it doesnt have to happen. Other than that. Normal stuff, change the oil, keep up your fluids. Just dont let it go, Youll be fine. If you do have the work done by a reputable shop or especially if done by the same shop the previous owner had, then during regular service they should find any nightmares well in advance of any catastrophic failures. So if your not mechanically inclined take it to someone who knows these cars until you feel comfortable working on it yourself. As far as price goes...... wow, i would suggest if you have the money, find the diamond in the ruff with a bankers box full of all the service records and a seller that will go through them with you. Pay a premium for your car. I think S4s in good shape are going for 16-20k now. That may seem high but Im talking looks like a new car and was well maintained. I wouldnt sell mine for less than 25 and would probably start at 30k. But mine is rediculously modified and documented and has won 5 concours events.... Its beautiful. And for the most part, perfect. Low mileage. The cars are out there. I have a 78 that is a bit of a basket case and was around 4k going on 6-7 years ago.... That car is basically sound but needs a lot of work to put it right and make it whole again. Ill do the work myself, its mostly cosmetic, Im taking my time looking for parts When the pile is big enough and complete with all necessary parts it wont have cost me a fortune but it will be worth something. It was the 52nd 928 built. I have to do a ton of elbow grease kinds of jobs to it. But these cars are VERY repairable. They are a TRUE supercar.. But they can be driven every day. In fact, i encourage you to do exactly that. This is only the tip of the iceberg as far as advice goes, and half the Landshark drivers out there are going to disagree with everything Ive said here.... But the Porsche 928 is WORTH it. Every penny and every drop of sweat and blood. You won't ever drive anything like it. Nothing looks like it. I mean mine gets WAY too much attention. I live somewhere that doesnt have many of them driving around. Ive never seen another one while driving mine. But the styling is modern enough that people ask me if its a new car. What kind of car is that. OR is that a new kind of Porsche? And for being 30 years old...... There isnt a highschool kid around here with anything that will touch me off the line. Mines got about 440 HP though, its not stock, but Id put a stock one up against a lot of modern much newer cars and even if it didnt eat them for lunch it would still look cooler while doing it.
I think these and the Aston Martin are two of the most beautiful cars ever, two of the best GT cars too. I'm a big Corvette fan, I've owned a 95 LT1, an 86.5 928s and a 84 ROW 928s. As much as I love C4 Vettes, I like the 928 more. Would live to own a GTS someday... And an Aston and ZR1 for that matter.
I own an '88 928 S4... it is VERY reliable. It's my daily driver and has never let me down. Now if you go out and buy one that has been neglected for decades... ya, your gonna have problems (like with any other car that's been neglected)
I never understood why this amazing car played the second fiddle to 911. GTS models are expensive in the used market but you can buy three or four 928 S4's for one air cooled 911 (those prices have become insane). 928 is a lot of car for the money.
I've never had the privilege to drive or even SEE one of these in person, but those seats in the front look amazingly comfortable and that interior styling looks awesome even today!
The panamera is still a huge car, a total redesign will have to be made, more shorter, less wide, and lower with sleek a/b/c pillars.. make it around 3k pounds with the same engine as the panamera.. itll be a beast
I'm hoping they'll one day make a smaller, coupé panamera and call it the "928 Panamera" much like they're using "718 Cayman" Unfortunately convincing Porsche to make a NEW car with a V8 is impossible, given their downsizing in engines. At most you'd get a V6 Turbo.
What amazes me the most is that if you just took off the pop-up headlights and modify the lamps (to leds) this car could come out of production line today. You'd only need minimal changes to the exterior to make it look 2024. The GTS really perfected the looks of the 928. Think about 1978 and how the cars generally looked... like Vauxhall Chevette / Opel Kadett. 928 must have been like a spaceship among those. One of the best and most timeless designs in car history.
There’s something comforting about these old-school auto testing. Before the age of mass click bait where any RU-vid jockey can deem himself an auto journalist, you had trade mags and the odd tv show; and that was it. I wonder also how these guys could hang with the new hyper social auto drivers. And if the technique itself has maybe even changed.
Only slightly less expensive to maintain than a LearJet. BUT nothing came close back in the day, as even Porsche knew from its ads at the time: "In Germany it doesn't compete with other cars. It competes with jets." Probably one of the best GTs ever, even now in 2016. Mom had one of these back in late 80s. It was unreal. Miss it.
Long live the 928! I own a few of these cars and absolutely love them. I love the spaceship like design and the handling and comfort was among the best of it's time. Great cars!
Having had that C4 ZR1 I wish I’d have chosen the Porsche. Can’t beat the build quality and driving feel of that brand. Shame these are really rising in value as is just about everything else nostalgic from the 80’s and 90’s
I had a 90 zr1 and an 82 928. Zr1 all day all night. It's faster than any 928 and it handles better. The 928 is stable. It tracks great on the highway but it's thick. Handling on a 928 is heavy, heavy, heavy.
***** How this isn't obvious to everyone is mind boggling and sad. Buying an automatic sports car is like using a sex app over real sex. You just press a button and a computer does all the work for you. Zero skill, zero fun. How sad and lame.
The main reason I clicked is because the title said " '93" and I knew those wheels & a few other visual clues on the burgundy one he's standing beside was an '80-'83 model.
Much cooler than the ZR1 of the time and that car was outstanding.. Totally different animals too though. 928 might be the ultimate 2-door GT of all time imho, they're just outstanding.
I owned a black one for fourteen years but had a company car and a black Ferrari F355 F1 Spider so the car was sitting in my lockup for two years, went to do my monthly check, open up the door and thought, this car needs to be driven so I sold it cheap. Still my favourite car and I called it the predator, great car but not cheap to maintain.
I bought a salvage 1984 928S that had been bashed in the rear, was missing the driver:s side door and fender and had bullet holes in the two left wheels and a mismatched ugly, super wide Gotti rr wheel. It had been registered in White Post Alabama and I suspect it had been owned by Amin Abu Jamal ("Rap" Brown). After a very difficult restoration it became a very nice car, a real pleasure. The motor was wonderful in sound and power, the 6 speed dogleg gearshift very nice. The handling very controllable and balanced for such a heavy car. I wasn't that impressed by the grip, considering how much rubber it was putting on the road with the forged factory wheels from a later car I found for it. I love front engine/rear transaxle cars. I suspect that I'd like a 944's handling better, and a lower, stiffer sprung than stock transaxle Alfa is better with better steering feel. The styling to me was a mix. In overall proportions and rear treatment it reminds me of a certain Ferrari 340 racing coupe from the early/ mid 50s, but I don' t like its "face" too much, although I liked the way they did the headlight mechanism. Thr bodywork that was needed was surprisingly easy for me to do - except for splicing together the multitude of wires going into the new door. I would never want to have to do another transaxle change, or replace a clutch on it, or on any torque tube car, I guess. The way they did the wiring was scary, old school to the max. Every component wired directly to the fuse box. It seemed like a short could essily fry everything. Maybe that is not so bad, I had just never seen it done that way. Apart from the clutch/torque tube/trans difficulty pretty easy to work on. I wish mine had been the russet color of the MW car.
I understand it's appeal, I just can't afford it then. I loved this from its beginning. Even now in 2021, used up kept version of the later tears have been listed for over $100K. Still lo e this design to this day. Would like Porsche to come out with a new version.
im pretty sure those were some of the fastest cars out there during this time. ferrari killer and sure as hell a better buy than them as a daily driver! though very pricy of course.
Porsche needs to bring back the 928, and the main way to do that is with the existing Panamera by making some changes to the wheelbase and of course taking off two doors. Heck, they could even call it the “928 Panamera”, in similar fashion to how they gave the Boxster & Cayman the “718” namesake. Unfortunately, the only reason this probably won’t happen is because a car like that would probably cannibalize 911 sales. I mean, let’s be honest with ourselves, the 911 isn’t a sports car like it once was, it’s a bloated GT car.
The 928 was the datapoint in designing the C4, and I've heard the same as it being the datapoint in the Aston Martin Vantage' suspension. The C5 got the transaxle from the 928.
tonkatoytruck It's not that its launch was lackluster, the issue is that it was a totally different concept of a sports car when pitted against the 911. Porsche learned, after 17 years, that the reason for the 911's appeal, apart from the RR Drivetrain, was the concentration it required to master the car, it was a barebones machine to be taken seriously; not luxurious.
At the time of production, the 928 could outrun every 911 of the same year except the turbo, which had slightly better acceleration. For the time the 928 was one seriously rapid car.
