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Motoz Tractionator RallZ LONG TERM Tyre Review

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We've been running this interesting tyre from Motoz for a little over a year now. Multiple sets through every season in all terrains and conditions.
As such we have a pretty solid idea of the Motoz Tractionator RallZ performance and longevity, WHERE it does and does not work well, and WHO it may be best suited.
Our Motoz Desert HT front and rear tyre video review:
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Enjoy the review of this great adventure motorcycle riding off-road dirt bike adventure tire and riding examples aplenty. The Motoz Tractionator Rallz.
A good alternative to the Motoz Tractionator Desert HT, motoz Tractionator Adventure, Shinko 804/805, Maxxis M6006, Kenda Bigblock, Shinko 244, Michelin Anakee, Metzeler Karoo, Bridgestone AX41, Continental TKC70, Pirelli Scorpion Trail, Dunlop D606, D605
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@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Thanks for getting on board with this review crew, we have been working on it for a LONG time. Share it out to your ADV mates they may find it helpful, it's a pretty great tyre option for a lot of uses! Cheers!

@ogasi1798 Год назад

hey, i wanted the 6006 so bad, riding a 500 ktm - the metz 360 that i ended up choosing are effin great in rock and mud (i love these tyres) but buzz saw so badly on road - obnoxious is the word, as we all know the road has to be used and especially here in England as my trails are +50 miles away - so you are really leaving 6006 for this rallZ? I honestly thought i would end up on 6006 this next time after the 360 expire but now you got me thinking

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

You will miss performance in mud and loose terrain with the m6006 but its a good option for less cost.

@spencerwvcmoon 15 дней назад

Your riding it like its a brand new 300 two stroke lightweight race bike wicked wicked riding love it knarly terrain mega info 100%DUDE

@IamthePMofAustralia Год назад

This is the best most relatable tyre review Ive seen in years! Nice work.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Glad it's helpful to ya, cheers

@keinname629 22 дня назад

Oh, man! You're going through really rough terrain. Kudos!

@liv4adv41 4 месяца назад

Big fan of Motoz 💯 I tried the RallZ on the AT and only got 3k out of the rear… Motoz have a good selection 👍🏼 It’s just finding the right one 😊

@SKIDSnSTUFF Месяц назад

Right on!

@superflycatchermtb Год назад

Thank you for addressing the “there’s multiple different Tractionator tires” issue.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

haha that does my head in!

@goatman86 2 года назад

Just fitted a set of Rallz to my T7 today. 150/70 rear and 90/90 front. Done only maybe 50km on gravel, hard packed sand, mud and a strech of asfalt in the rain on the way home but so far so good. It's insane how well it handles it all. stock Pirelli STRs were great for fooling around on some twisties but thats about it. As I'm planning to tackle some TransEuroTrails soon I feel they will do great. And man I agree with the naming. They need to drop the whole tractionator thing, it sounds a little childish to me

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Amen. Cheers for stopping in with the first hand report

@2wmwv Год назад

Just bought a T7 took the stock Pirellis in the woods and they were terrible. On the pavement they were great. You wanna corner at high speed no problem. Im just more of a woods rider. I should have the RallZ on my bike later this week, cant wait to hit the woods with em.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Heck yeh the Rallz will be a treat

@bogdandanailescu 8 месяцев назад

I was looking for this MotoZ comparison. Will go for the RallZ instead of Desert H/T. (on a KTM 690) I've been using Heidenau K60 Scout on my old KTM 950. Thanks a lot mate! Greetings from Romania 😊

@jimmelino3361 2 месяца назад

Had the Motoz Dersert H/T on my Honda CRF450RL for about 6k miles - great tire but looking for something that’s a little more street friendly. This is great info on the RallZ tire!

@g000se99 4 месяца назад

Ran it on a ktm 1090 - it was very good. Took me through the carpathian mountain range - I could keep up with the 690’s

@Yoda6921 Год назад

Mate seriously that is bar none the best review I have seen on this tyre! I was on the fence but I am off to buy it, thanks for your time and effort!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Thanks for the high praise Craig, enjoy your new rubber

@motoXplore23 Год назад

I found very good combination combo in my DR650 by instaling motoz adv at the front and RallZ at the rear, bike takes everything infront sand,mud, rocks, pavement and even rain 👌 love your channel and your DR bro

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Great combo for sure cheers for putting it out there!

@10111115 Год назад

Running Rallz on my Gen1 KLR650 in the rear and dual venture on the front. Best tire combo I’ve found. I blast a ton of sandy and muddy single track and commute every day on it. It’s comfortable on the road and even in the wet like you said. Dual venture is pretty great too. Great review mate!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Pretty mint combo for that bike for sure!

@garyrehbein6076 2 года назад

I’ve been running the Rallz for the last two years on my BMW R1200GS. Actually there are several of us using this tyre and it is the best for all the reasons you’ve explained. Even on the big bikes. We run full pressure everywhere we go. My GS spends 90% of the time out in the bush running some pretty technical tracks most wouldn’t take a GS on.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

You bloody ripper. Thanks for the confirmation Gary. Keep on ripping!

@chasp_0784 2 года назад

Hah fancy seeing you here Gary, we’ve ridden together before courtesy of St Shaun 😂 hope you are well.

@hillkiran 2 года назад

What front tire do you run on the gs?

@garyrehbein6076 2 года назад

@@hillkiran Rallz on the front also.

@spencerwvcmoon Месяц назад

I'm getting this combo cheers.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 29 дней назад

enjoy!

@SWATT101 Год назад

Just bought a rear Rallz to mount up in place of a road tire that was mounted up when I bought a DR... almost got stuck on wet grass lol...I'm hopeful it will last a couple years at this premium price here in Canada.

@mbatacchi 2 года назад

Best tyre evewr on a bmw 1200 gs, used predominantly off road. Great revire. Thank you

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

No, thankyou Tacoman , where would the world be without ya

@nateryan7041 Год назад

I'm looking for a 50/50 tyre or as best I can get I'm doing some light off road with one the lads and it's some craic but the road tyres will only so so far so are you still using them or have you found some better ??

@DerpInTheWoods 2 года назад

Your review of the Desert tires steered me away from getting them, as I was really close to picking up a set for my 701. Picked up the RallZ's instead, and they got here about a week ago. Haven't had time to get them on yet, but now I'm even more excited to! Really appreciate your insight and vids.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Awesome, stoked you found our info helpful! Thanks for dropping in and letting us know Arthur :)

@BillyBoblovesthedirt 2 года назад

Thanks mate, great review. The biggest conundrum we have is tyre choice and I ride the same areas you do so I’ll be going this combo next. Keep the videos coming 👍🇦🇺💪

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Nice, lemme know what ya reckon once ya give this combo a go

@Motardebase. 11 месяцев назад

Merci de ton retour complet! Depuis la France :)

@kiwiadventurer Месяц назад

Cheers, helped substantiate my thoughts about my rear t yre.

@jayschesser3795 11 месяцев назад

I've only ever run the good old 606's on my DR. I get around 3000kms out of them. Now trying something different. Motoz Tractionator front and rear. I only just watched your video, and I think I've made the right choice. Love your channel and videos and how frigging well you handle that bike. Cheers Bro 😊👊

@LimitEdit 2 месяца назад

Did you test them and if yes how much kms did you get out of them?

@georgemc8 10 месяцев назад

Have a Dr now after my drz so thanks for the feedback here. Heaps of help.

@mikecummings9265 Год назад

I’ve watched this review a few times. On my DR I replaced a Dunlop front/Mitas E07 rear with the Rallz front and rear combo. The increased rear stability was immediately quite noticeable- no slipping off the crown, good on wet clay - and really good on tar, wet and dry. Made it to the Cape, just, ( the rider was the problem!). I’ve gone conservative as I approach a big number birthday and have just upgraded a ‘23 Honda CB500X into a light ADV type bike. I am going to combine the Rallz rear with a Motoz Dual Venture front which seems to be an improvement over the earlier Rallz front - for me now just well graded and kind gravel ahead, no serious off-road, but I still want the trustworthiness and stability and I already know they are really trustworthy on tar. It was really great that you mention the durometer reading - the Rallz are softer than the Adventure and GPS and this is not mentioned by many people - this, plus the silica is possibly why they do ok on wet tar compared to the other two. This one issue I think let’s the other two down - you can’t avoid rain and I want trustworthy tyres when I hit it. (Sorry, that was almost as long as your review!) Thanks again. Cheers, Mike

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

haha thanks for the review Mike, the Dual Venture does look like a great partner to the Rallz

@xXRedEyedStrangerXx 9 месяцев назад

I think I am gonna go Dual Venture front and Rallz rear on my KTM 990

@tahoehiker 9 месяцев назад

Motoz recommends a 3 inch wide rim for the 130/80 17 Rallz. The stock DR650 rim is 2.5 inches.

@everythingtenere 2 года назад

Just love the RallZ on my T7.. Avesome off road and very good road manners in my honest opinion 👌

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

May I suggest giving the fatty Desert HT a go on the front of your T7, could work out well for ya

@everythingtenere 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF next year, when I shredded the ones I have packed up in my chalk in closet 😅. Got 2 rear and one front saved up (RallZ). And I’m also going to run Michelin Trackers for the more enduro type riding I’ll have to put her through 😬.

@adamms96 2 года назад

Motoz might as well change there name to Tractionator since they love using it so much. And on a side note it would be awesome if some day we could see a collab with cross training adventure.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Yeh they got a bit carried away with that naming convention!

@S_Bazaar Год назад

Thanks from the US! Love the Aussie take on my DR mods. Awesome trail videos throughout your review. Thoroughly enjoyed your review

@S_Bazaar Год назад

Gonna run this exact setup, front and rear. Thanks for the heads up!!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@PennsylvaniaDualSport 2 года назад

What’s funny is I’ve always dropped psi considerably for my terrain which is mostly rocks in a coal mine. I drop to 10psi rear 12 front. I run titanium warp 9 locks and have no balance issues. Motoz is stiff enough that you’ll never get near the wheel on an impact with terrain. It’s why most in my area run either tubliss or mousses in their dirt bike set up. So the tire can wrap around what it’s rolling over. Obviously in dual sport fashion that’s far too low because a paved surface will heat the tire up too much and the tube would fail. I carry s gauge and a hand pump. Otherwise 22psi is my all around psi usually. Unless I’m spending the day in the bush. I have the tractionator to mount and the 90/100 front when that comes in the mail. Kind of wish I would have saw your opinion on the Rallz before I ordered the desert rear. We shall see how that goes. Haven’t run a Motoz since the mountain hybrid I had on a 250l. It was a great tire but had no lateral traction on hillsides. Love your stuff, as always

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Since you can get away with running pressures that low, you may not notice the dirt problems I speak about with the Desert because the tyre will have more give at that pressure it won't highlight this issue. Also lateral traction will be OK at that pressure I would think... obviously not enduro bike OK but for the purpose. Where as at my pressure I believe lateral traction is better on the Rallz

@pilotdane1 2 года назад

MATT !!!!!!

@PennsylvaniaDualSport 2 года назад

@@pilotdane1 Dane! Lol

@ToyCollectr Год назад

Thanks for the time and effort you put into this review currently looking at replacing a Desert HT on the rear of my 500exe this is my adventure setup the D606 in the 18 doesn’t come in the exact right size. So went looking for alternatives I think this Rallz will be next. Had a DR with the D606 before going to the 2017 KTM 500.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Glad I could help!

@carl.44magnum51 6 месяцев назад

Great video! I took your advice and put a Desert H/T up front and a Rallz on the rear of my 2023 DR650. Big stability increase off-road from the stock DR tire. But I notice the front seems to feel a little unstable on the street at speeds over 55mph. Do you think this is just a new feeling from a new aggressive tire? Vibrating at high speeds as the nobs wear in?

@SKIDSnSTUFF 6 месяцев назад

Possibly, some roughness should be expected I guess switching from a smooth front to knobby front, I never noticed anything excessive

@trouty65 Месяц назад

New sub here great detailed review bro love it! I’ve just ordered one for my Aprilia Tuareg 660 as the standard tyres are terrifying here on the UK as soon as you hit muddy conditions. I still can’t make my mind up on the front tyre Motoz Adventure or Mitas Rally Pro. What’s your suggestion for the front on a mid size adventure bike thanks

@SKIDSnSTUFF 29 дней назад

i always run the Motoz Desert fatty

@sjbechet1111 Год назад

The Motoz GPS 50/50 were so much better than the Bridgestone/ pirelli/Shinko just on the road and way better off road that I would'nt consider them again. Frame of reference, I've spent 35 years riding road almost daily with a enough track days to know racing wasn't t for me, only just discovered adventure/trail, 2 years ago. Just got a pair of RallZ - can't wait.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

enjoy the shred!

@tremorflow3614 Год назад

Sick review mate, got these coming for my 650 now!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

enjoy!

@aussiefarmer8741 2 года назад

An excellent review.That front tyre looked similar to an 1980's tyre, claw grip, Ive forgotten the manufacturer. They were all the rage then if you didnt want to run knobbly's. You certainly qualify for this tyre review. Well done.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Interesting, thanks for the insight!

@hamish3766 Год назад

I agree with everything said, i dont know why people buy anything slse..On my 890 it's amazing how they outlast even 50/50 tyres by 2000kms and completely blow them away for performance. . Last one was good for serious offroad for 6-7000km, ran it out to 9000 with some lighter duty adventure rides.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

damn straight

@timsbike4887 Год назад

I have 1 on the rear of my R1250GS and it has been great. Fine on wet tar if your not silly and great in the dirt.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

No doubt no doubt

@690enduroR73 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the long term review. I am having a set installed@ktmworld in the US this weekend on my ktm 690 enduro r. Looking forward to testing them @highland park this weekend

@jodiewatkins7560 Год назад

Very appreciative for your honest review with highly relevant information. A big thank you.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@enb3810 Год назад

I got 12k miles out of my rallz rear! Thanks for the review!

@timsilva1944 Год назад

I agree with your take on the Rallz as a rear, especially for the DR650. Maybe if I rode more pavement, I'd use something else. I can't speak for other "adventure" bikes. I do prefer the matching front as it seems to have more squared knobs as opposed to the desert H/T front's pyramid shape. The H/T rear is a howler!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

I believe the pyramid shaped knows on the Front desert is what makes it so versatile. Yeh the rear is worthless

@BruceHoult Год назад

CRF250 Rally. I mostly ride on the road (tar, though almost as much gravel, as I live on gravel) but I'm happy to corner a bit slower on tar if it means I get through mud and sand etc in the middle of nowhere. Swapped the stock tyres for D606 both ends as soon as winter came as IRC just didn't work offroad in the wet. Wore out the front in 5000 km and switched to MT21. It was ok new but awful understeer once worn a bit. MT21 fine so far but it's only been 3000 km. Rear D606 is up past 8000 km, worn to about 4 mm in the centre now but as we're heading into summer it might do a few thousand more yet! It sang lot at first ,but not now it's worn a bit. Happy with D606/MT21 *except* I can't corner like other bikes on less aggressive ADV tyres and I've started doing group rides with people on WR450 and KTM690 and BMW GS. The only time I feel a real lack of power is twisty tarseal when my apex speed is 20-30 km/h lower than them. Gravel, sand, dirt I'm up with everyone, and better than the GSs. Before finding this video my research already said RallZ might be the answer and have bought a pair (90/90-21 & 120/90-18) but not fitted them yet. The rear will be first depending on how long it takes to finally kill this D606. Or, hey, if it does 2000-3000 km more the MT21 might be dead at the same time.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Ya should be happy with that set. I've never felt the Rallz rear or Desert HT front being a deciding factor for how fast I want to corner on tarmac

@bigtater29 Год назад

I just got the rallz (same size) n I can't wait to put it on my KLR! Great video! Subbed, from the states. 🇺🇲

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Welcome! Enjoy that new rubber

@Showe2625 2 года назад

Tusk Dsport Adventures have been my favorite so far

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Yeh they look pretty excellent for the dirty minded, we can't get them here or else I would definitely give them a go over winter

@Showe2625 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF that’s surprising. I’m guessing different regulations for road tire? Or just not available because I could send you some 😈

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

@@Showe2625 pretty sure it's just cos nobody is bringing them in yet. Having worked closely with Aussie tyre importers for a while now, they can be pretty clueless about which tyres are potentially good sellers

@markperry1507 2 года назад

Great review. Have tried the Rallz on my Africa Twin. Great off-road and good enough for me on the road. Only got 4K out of it, so I go the Adventure now for longevity. Will definitely try the Rallz on the DR.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Nice, I reckon the extra weight of the AF would mean the Motoz Adventure is to the Af, as the RallZ is to the DR.

@martin72345 Год назад

13:35 nice stab at the Africa Twin

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Haha ;p that Honda shadow actually is a pretty decent adventure bike in its own right though

@BikerBytes Год назад

Love the reviews mate. I'm a big fan of the motoz tractionator adventure on my DR, front and rear. Perfect for my riding. ATB Jason 👍

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

No doubt I can see that being a great option for the DR. Thankyou

@stug77 2 месяца назад

You mentioned other tire choices for 18" rear lightweight dual sports. Do you have any recommendations for those that have similar (or better) tread life? Or are the other tires just more aggressive. Have you considered trying the tractionator adventure in these narrow sizes? It also looks quite aggressive from the pictures, and a couple of media outlets put it on par with the rallz in loose/soft conditions but with better tread life.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 месяца назад

Lots of aggressive options in 18. If I was More road oriented or doing a multi month outback trip I might try the Motoz Adventure tyre. Keep in mind its also more expensive IIRC.

@robdanner3833 Год назад

Looking at picking up the Rallz's for my CRF450RL, and I like the combo you picked for Rallz in the rear and the Desert HT for the front. Did you get a chance to test the Rallz front? I live in Ft.Worth Texas so the nearest BDR is 500 miles out (x2 for the round trip), so I'm a little worried about long highway stretches and tire wear. Not a huge deal because that's just the way things are. Besides, there are closer trails..

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Nah hasn't tried the Rallz front, not interested in it. The Desert HT front gets great milage as is and I find it can be run waaay down (as long as you dont use unnecessary low psi to prevent shark toothing, i use 22-24 psi) without affecting performance too much, I will use two Rallz rears to one HT front no problem.

@ashleywalker8484 2 года назад

so true worn out 4 of them. 7000kms on mine Coffs to Kimberly last yr

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Badass

@ozziejim8472 2 года назад

Desert on the rear, so far so good. Might have change to the rallz! Mate, your advice so far has been spot on! I changed the pilot back to stock for economy.👍 But the valving in the rear shock as you suggested has been a great mod. It’s so good! Keep on skiddin mate! Cheers

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

That's awesome Jim. I have found at my weight I could get away with the stock rear shock cranked all the way in on comp screw... but definitely liking the revalve for the extra rebound damping it creates and allowing me to stiffen the comp more when loaded to keep the bike balanced. I'm stoked to hear the advice is working for ya!

@mark-lj5dc Год назад

You are very good at explaining things. A very good review

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@gregbrown5473 2 года назад

I totally agree with with you Ben but as you did mention the wider tyres has a little different pattern like 150,s on a big bike say Africa Twin 230+ kg bike they can tram track a little bit on the black top … in the dirt and for good lasterbillity shit hot .

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Cheers for the heads up Greg

@romanoverlengia5421 2 года назад

Hi, thanks for the great video. I put a set of front and rear Tube-Type Rallx on my 2020 KLX250 and have been regretting it, but only have about 35 miles on them. I'm glad you commented there wobbly when new. It's been very windy here in California's Central Coast, so haven't been doing any long rides, hoping the tires stabilize soon. I'm going to go ahead and install the Rear Rallx and Front Desert HT combo on my DR650. Thank you for the great videos. Romano

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

you will not be disappointed

@robpinter5431 2 года назад

Hi first of all I am impressed the ability you have riding the bush pig, I just fitted a RallZ to the rear of my WR250R, could last a few years worth of riding as the tread depth is huge with 28hp of sheep power. I did notice it was a bit slippy on the bitumen corners.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

It settles in after a few hundred kms. While never becoming a road tyre it's road manners are as good as I could hope out of a reasonably aggressive tyre

@nyedavis922 2 года назад

Any update on how the WR is handling the weight of the motoz? I'm riding my WR from UK to South Africa next year and was thinking of running a motoz adventure rear and rallz front. Either that or good ol' anakee wilds. I love my extreme hybrids on my exc but equally have really enjoyed anakee wilds for previous overlanding trips, just haven't made my mind up for the big Africa trip

@anonymous_friend 5 месяцев назад

@@nyedavis922What did you end up with? I'm so undecided on my first tire change for my WR250R.

@TLE1977A Год назад

I do 70/30 offroad biased riding and about to fit (waiting for my karoo 3s to wear out) a front RallZ on my AT and an Adventure to the rear. Wondering if you have had any experience with cracking at all? Ditto on the "tractionator" call. I point that out all the time, theres like 8 different tractionator tyres!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

I have seen ever so slight 'cracking' in the base of the odd knob on the Rallz but nothing that ever suggested it would fling a knob or even impact on the tyres performance

@jameshind6644 2 года назад

T7 desert h/t on the rear and Pirelli scorpion rally mst on the front. Great combo in my opinion. I couldn’t get the rallz as it was hard to get so opted for the desert h/t.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Sounds like a decent setup James, thanks for dropping by

@EricBanner571 2 года назад

Never used the any tractionator range of tyres. I have heard that they are quite loud on the road. The D606 was long lasting but found them to not grip as I would like off road and loud as hell on road.. I have settled on the old humble MT21 front and rear on my DRZ400. Good value for money, goog predictable grip on and off road, reasonable long lasting and pretty quite on road.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

I can see the Mt21 being a good optiontion for the DRZ

@inoasdh7618 Год назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF MT21 sucks on mud/wet ground, although it does look capable of doing it well.... Dangerous on the street when wet.... Wouldn't buy it again.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

@@inoasdh7618 thanks for the insight

@tonyrdr7207 Год назад

Great review used them front and rear on a 300 rally 120 in the rear very good results very predictable and easy to put on and fix in the field. I take it you did not bother with the front as you are happy with the desert will give it a shot next time.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

That's correct yes I can't bring myself to try anything else on the front, the Desert HT 90100 is everything I want in a front tyre on this bike

@tonyrdr7207 Год назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF Had a careful look through the reviews but I could not see anything specific. Does the Desert work on slippery wet clay?? The 606 was not great??

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

@@tonyrdr7207 the front? the Desert is as good in those conditions as you could possibly expect out of a dual sport tyre.

@CWhite-fp3eo 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info.....gonna try them on my DR650...currently using Dunlop missions. Using tractionators on my KTM 690 lol GPS VERSION ,,,they wear like iron even with 80HP

@johnmclaughlin4802 Месяц назад

👍 cheers mate

@KentOnKTM 2 года назад

Good review, i run a Dunlop 606 on my 690 but after that wears i was going to give the desert HT a run but you have changed my mind :)

@Dshideler2002 2 года назад

I have the desert ht on my DR. Once you break it in it’s extremely noisy in the road. Does good off-road.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Why not try both 😀 glad the reviews could give help give you an idea of use case. Enjoy

@actstuntcam 2 года назад

Brilliant vid - great info - well presented - killer riding skills - LEGEND :) - chur, Cam from NZ.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Stoked to hear it Cam, thanks for the kind words and welcome :)

@robdefire4747 2 года назад

On a DR650 myself and agree on the rear, its not great on gravel but good everywhere else. Hated it on the front. Currently running a Mitas army on the front.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

I have not heard of this Mitas Army, will check it out

@robdefire4747 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF it was called the XT644. Dont think they make em any more.

@MotoGuzziMoto 2 года назад

I run the Desert HT 140/80 almost exclusively on the T7 running a 2.5" rim, and your review of the Desert rear is spot on. To add to your excellent commentary, the Desert has an inherent problem with the way it wears. There is more rubber on the shoulder of the tire than in the middle, so it will square off too quickly. When new it is awesome in the dirt, but once the centre wears flatter at around 2-3000kms (on the T7) it will get squirrely and downright dangerous, so I change mine pretty regularly. I have even tried removing some knobs from the shoulders of the tire, which was great in the sand (almost a paddle tire) and improved the wear pattern but the tire never really settled mid corner on gravel or bitumen with the missing knobs (no surprise there). I found the front Desert is particularly bad on the T7, and gets very squirmy under a bike that weighs around 200kgs. I run the Shinko 216MX Fatty and that is truly awesome on the T7. I would consider getting the RallZ for the rear, and perhaps open up the tread pattern a little with my tire groover if it was required. Thanks for the post.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Good call, that will be the profile issue I was alluding to... that profile is too sand-centric to make for a good all rounder. That Shinko 216 fatty (and Goldentyre 216) make for a decent option for the more dirt oriented for sure. I like the Motoz Desert (90/10-21) over them for the more stable on road manners and carcass, wont throw knobs, can still corner on the tarmac without that excess knobby flex and yet still has all the traction i need when the going gets tough.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

They really did something special with that 90/100 Desert Ht front.

@johnnyMDREI Год назад

This is one of the best tire reviews. You really did a great job with comparisons and terrains. On my 890 Adv-R I run the Rallz on the rear and the Dual Venture on the front, both tube type on narrower rims. Only 800 miles so far but I'm generally pleased with this combination. If I was willing to give up SOME on road capability/durability for SLIGHTLY MORE off-road performance (dirt/mud/sand), would you choose the Desert HT or the Enduro IT? Thanks for any comments.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

I would go Desert Ht 90 100 front, but stick with Rallz out back. Desert rear brings nothing to the table for that bike

@danielhusain7570 6 месяцев назад

instantly subbed on that 'tractionator this and that' rant :D

@SKIDSnSTUFF 6 месяцев назад

Haha glad I'm not the only one who notices that shit

@pilotdane1 2 года назад

SKIDS - Awesome / very detailed review for sure. Currently running SHINKO 244's and love them. In my opinion a 70/30 tire. I've got at least another 3000KM on them - But like what I see and hear. I'll be giving these a go for my fourth set. BTW - You were riding on the wrong side of the road LOL !!! 😁 Wonderful job !!! - Cheers !!!!

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

I actually did a quick compare on the shinko 244 in this vid but it got cut in final edit. I find them a decent value option and can run them during dry season. But they really can't compare for more aggressive riding and the rear sure don't dig anything as well as the RallZ when it gets muddy

@pilotdane1 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF Good to know. I know where I'm heading next time !!!

@1paulcave 2 года назад

Good review Skids - I have found the Ralz in a 140/80 works really well on the back of the Tenere. The T700 is a bit heavier than the Dr so I run them with a bit more psi (around 28-30). To be honest not a huge difference off road vs the Adventure but the Ralz seems to work better on road being a softer compound. Still chasing the best front tyre. Scorpion Rally great offroad but sketchy on road and wears fast. TKC80 better on tar but not as good on gravel roads.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Gove the motoz Desert Ht a crack on the front. I love it in 90/100

@MotoGuzziMoto 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF I think the Desert HT on the front of a T7 suffers under the extra weight. Definitely worth a try because everyone has a different riding style, but I found the Shinko 216MX 90/100 fatty to be more grippy and stable mid corner.

@10111115 Год назад

A bit late to the party, but check out the Dual venture by Motoz. I do a lot of single track on a klr650 and it runs pretty good in sandy/ clay single track and on pavement. Not too floaty

@richbglee6357 3 месяца назад

Well I’m sold on the desert up front, but I’m thinking the m6006 might be better for summer pea gravel (over hard), based on your reviews?

@SKIDSnSTUFF 3 месяца назад

only if you can pick it up significantly cheaper, else id probably just go the Rallz

@badoldbiker368 2 года назад

Hey Skids, great review, I have the Adventure on rear and RallZ on the front of my DR650. I like them so far, usually only riding pretty tame dual tracks out the back of Dwelly and Waroona, done about a 1000K now. Hoping to get 10,000 K from them, average ride is around 180 to 200K of Bitumen getting to the gravel and back then around 200 of gravel road and tame dual track. I liked the MT21 front and D606 rear combo that I used to run, however the 3600K life was a bit low for me. I have run the RallZ front and rear on my R1200GS, performance was great but didn't get the mileage I needed so went back to the Heidenaus K60 though I do a lot more bitumen on the GS than on the DR. Spot on about the block gaps being a lot different on the wider larger bike tyre sizes 150/80/17, I wasn't even thinking about the Adventure as the photos of the wider tyre didn't look aggressive at all, it wasn't until I was looking at the actual tyres in the shop that I noticed the 130's looked a lot more aggressive. I was wondering how the Heidenaus would go as the 130's don't have the continuous centre band, have you any idea how the Heidy's would go on a DR?

@DaveNZ3339 2 года назад

I am also running the MT21 and D606 combo, which I have been really happy with. I have to agree the D606 is one stiff MF, as airing down doesn't do much! I came from the Heidenau K60 f/r. Similar to the Motoz, the tread pattern for the smaller K60 tyre is more agressive than for the bigger bikes (as in not a continuous centre band like you said). The 130 K60 still isn't as aggressive as the D606 or Rallz, but that's not really its job. Some photos here photos.app.goo.gl/zWxQc8PspETs3mHM9

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

I havnt run the Heidenaus personally but they do look like a great option for the more road/back roads oriented looking to stretch out a long tyre life, especially without that centre strip, that's the really killer when it comes to stopping power on pea gravel

@badoldbiker368 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF Yeah the GS is real squirrelly on pea gravel, you get used to it on the gravel roads and dual track but sometimes you really have to let the tyre dig in and bite on the edges because of the centre band. I might give the Heidy's a go on the DR next tyre change. The other tyre I hear a lot of good things about is the Shinko 244, any opinion on those?

@badoldbiker368 2 года назад

@@DaveNZ3339 Yeah, the Heidy K60 Scout looks good with no centre band. Apparently Heidenau have a new adventure type tyre out called the K60 Ranger that has no centre band even for the heavier bikes in the wider tyre and the pattern is more aggressive than the K60 Scout but I haven't seen them here in W.A. yet.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

@@badoldbiker368 the 244 were fine. No magic in them like my favoured Motoz set, but decent good value tyre for dry season use

@bradmark1363 Год назад

Nice review mate, ive recently switched over the the motoz desert HT fron fatty and agree a good improvement for WA conditions. Im riding a tuned swm500 enduro wh8ch is great fun, my conundren is the rear tyre... was gonna gonthe d606 for the planned longer adv rides, but perhaps the rallz is an option for an 18" rear? Initially i thought its too road biased and we all hate the tarmac, but a necessary evil to get to the good.stuff. ever ised them on am enduro set up? Good review bro

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

I could see the RallZ being a decent option for an adventurized 500 but havnt used it in that capacity myself.

@andrewpastuszka1071 2 года назад

Really enjoy your reviews. I need some new tyres for my DR650 badly. Currently running Hiedanau K60 Scout on the front and rear, for just over 6k km since new. Here is my 50 word Hiedanau K60 review: I have no confidance it them at all. No good in the wet, loose gravel, mud, soft sand or under breaking. Front tyre excels in being specially bad. They use very hard rubber compound so are slow wearing ( only positive I found so far ) I think K60 will suit bigger adventure bikes for long distance touring. Adventure bikes hire companies love them. How does Motoz Desert front compare to MT21 front ?

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Haha nice review, sounds like it's time to give them the flick. If I could only choose one reason the Desert is better than the Mt21 front it would be the larger profile, and that alone would be reason enough. The DR LOVES the 90/100 profile when the going gets tough

@ManBikeSwag Год назад

Glad I found your channel!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Welcome along MBS!

@Showe2625 2 года назад

I do wanna try this when my current rubber wears

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Decent value for a budget ride too!

@JamesPiccone 5 месяцев назад

I got the adventure mirror was curious about your Enduro mirror, why do you like the Enduro mirror instead of adventure variant?

@SKIDSnSTUFF 5 месяцев назад

seemed like it would fold out of the way more

@coobye Год назад

Mate, that was a great review and thanks for clearing up the Tractionator crap. I was going around in circles trying to figure out which Motoz was which. Do you reckon the the Rallz would be easier to get off the rim in the bush than the the 606?. I'm 62 and don't like to admit it but losing some muscle power so the easier the better.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Absolutely, installation/removal of the Rallz is a dream compared to the D606. The Rallz is a well thought out tyre built with current techniques and materials, the D606 is an old school take on tyre design

@coobye Год назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF Cheers mate, I'm due for a new rear so I'll give it a try.

@philippelabelle9988 Год назад

Wow great review ! Some advise needed!! For a GS f850 adventure in Canada : mud + pack dirt road + hightway=your pick????

@shanecrofts2629 Год назад

Gonna try a set of these next on my 1290SAR, need something aggressive offroad and also something to get me there on road cause.. WA haha, cheers🤙🏻

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

They'll keep ya upright, enjoy

@BraaapoholicBob Год назад

Ride SoCal desert mainly...probably a mix of 20% road and 80% dirt...prefer single-track to the fire roads but obviously ride both...new 2022 ADV 890R...was looking very hard at the Desert HT but thinking that the Rallz might be a better all-rounder for me. Thank you for this very informative video. Helped me to decide on the Rallz. Giving the stock Continentals a few more rides as they aren't actually that bad but I am confident the Rallz will be a big improvement. Curious why you chose the HT front and not the matching Rallz? My feeling would be to choose the Rallz front as well since the HT looks like it might be a little too much of a knobby tire for pavement turns? Cheers!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

That it will be. It's great to hear you found the review helpful, thanks

@davea9502 Год назад

Excellent review! Thanks!

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@nakedkiwitraveler Год назад

Hey mate great video I am curious about how many kilometres you got out of the Desert on the front

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

check out our full review on the Motoz Desert HT

@RyanWilson876 Год назад

How do you delete the DRL (daytime runners) where I live, mine came with them and I want the ability to turn them on or off.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

No idea sorry mate, never knew the DR came with such a thing

@RyanWilson876 Год назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF No worries! Cheers! Love the videos; keep them up. It's winter here and your videos are not helping me! Want to get on the DR bad !

@bryanreeme8584 2 года назад

I love my Rallz on my klr, have 4,000 miles, rear has more left but the front is spent.. I'm thinking of trying the DV front this time, know anything about em?.. Great review btw🤙

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

I dont know about the DV, I will be sticking to the Desert HT front. Cheers for dropping by.

@canoequest2 Год назад

I just ordered the Rallz rear and DV front (recommended by Big Rock Moto) for my KLR. Really looking forward to better traction.

@bryanreeme8584 Год назад

@@canoequest2 I got good life & great traction on my Rallz rear for 6g miles on my gen2, front done around 4g... my dv is tubeless, & after 1g I miss the rallz front when in dirt, but a good hybrid tire still

@thehuckleberryfactor2969 2 года назад

Great review. Thank you.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Thanks for dropping in 🍻

@garthbosworth8090 2 года назад

i have run them on my vstrom 1000 in the 150/70r17 size and found them quite good. not as much straight line drive or cornering traction as the desert h/t rear in that size, but the sliding on gravel roads is predictable, allowing you to enjoy drifting through corners in the triple digits. The desert h/t has more grip for that, but can feel a bit snappy when it lets go. The desert h/t performs noticeably better in loose stuff like deep gravel, sand or mud, but the rallz is still good in those conditions. Onroad the rallz is actually a noisier tyre at highway speed than the desert h/t (in the 150/70r17 size) as above 110kmh i find the noise starts to die down on the desert h/t where the rallz just keeps getting louder. If yo like to pretend you're racing the Dakar both these tyres will last about 3000km on a big bike, but if you are gentle on it I have heard of people getting up to 10,000km from the rallz. On wet bitumen a big bike will spin either of them if you grab a handful of throttle at 100kmh, but i have found that with every offroad tyre i have run on my bike, dry bitumen grip is much more than you expect from such aggressive tyres. Unfortunately I haven't been able to try a desert h/t front tyre yet as they havent been available any time i have bought tyres. The rallz front works well on the big bike, but isnt as predictable as the rear in loose conditions, which can get interesting hitting sandy patches in tracks at 120kmh as the front wheel suddenly gets a mind of its own. I like your tyre reviews as its quite interesting seeing how different the same tyres can be just by changing the size of them. I also run similar pressure to you and have no problems, which shows just how stiff the big bike sizes are as its perfectly fine at that pressure with a 230kg bike and a 125kg rider.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Predictable and consistent is the word that matters when it comes to tyres hey, and why I love the Rallz over the Desert (and in dry conditions, the M6006 over all). That sensation you mention about the Desert letting go is from the same profile issue I talked about in this vid I reckon... it wants to be run at lower pressures, which isn't ideal on an adventure bike, especially a big one. Sounds like any rear tyre with a dirt pattern is gonna light up under you and the big girl Garth!

@garthbosworth8090 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF I paid for the throttle, I'm going to use all of it 😜. Speed helps make up for lack of talent 😂

@SW-Video 3 месяца назад

How about a DRZ400 with 80% off road? Would you still recommend this tire for that 320-340 lb (145-154 Kg) bike with a 250 lb (113 kg) rider weight class? What kind of mileage are you getting out of one of these in the rear?

@Navaho66 Год назад

I've had multiple flats with this tire, front and rear (pinch flats). The carcass is too soft. Can't use them anymore.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Or you know, run enough air

@spencerwvcmoon 15 дней назад

Are YOU THE PARTY GUY !??? FROM YEARS AGO HAHAA

@ozbiker5311 11 месяцев назад

Hi bud what size Desert Ht do you run on the front 90/90 or 90/100 I've just joined the Dr 650 family Talk soon Marcio

@SKIDSnSTUFF 11 месяцев назад

90 100. I have a review video of that also

@beersintheshed. 2 года назад

Hey, I’m thinking of getting the Adventure tyre front and the Rallz on the rear of my dr650, I’m getting to old (62) to throw it around tracks but like to do dirt roads and easy fire trails, oh and commuting on the road. Do you think this combo is ok for what I want. I had 606,s front and rear on my xr650l and found them pretty good. Cheers Phil.

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

I will always recommend the Motoz Desert HT 90/100 for the front of the DR

@KTM.ADDICT.BelgianTiger.isBack 2 года назад

Bonjour et merci pour cette magnifique vidéo et test longue durée... (Do you know a possibility, a Site, thanks to which it would be possible to translate your comments and opinions into French?) Pour ma part sur ma KTM 1290 SAS, j'ai monté deux pneus MotoZ : MotoZ Tractionator RallZ - Tubeless TRXQ 170/60-17 72 Q TL M+S MotoZ Tractionator RallZ - TubelessTRXQ 120/70-19 60 Q TL M+S et j'en suis vraiment très content ! ! ! Les plus grosses différences ressenties par rapport aux pneus d'origine routier : La KTM est beaucoup plus haute qu'à l'origine (améliorant considérablement la garde au sol), et il faut - sur route - impérativement garder ses distances par rapport au véhicule qui vous précède./..., car en cas de freinage d'URGENCE les distances de freinage pour stopper la moto sont allongées du fait qu'il s'agit de pneus crampons, mais aussi des plus agressifs du catalogue MotoZ en ce qui concerne les pneus pour Trail's de grosse cylindrée ! Claude, Motard pour la Vie... Biker 4 Ever! straight-six.forumactif.com/t53-claude-motard-pour-la-vie-biker-4-ever ______________________________________________________ eMail : Belgian.Tiger.KTM.1290.SAS@gmail.com (en gardant les Majuscules)

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Je ne sais pas, désolé. Peut-être que la fonction de sous-titrage a une traduction en français ?

@drderek9735 2 года назад

Hey there brother… I’m only 2/yrs into riding (DR650). 48yrs young. Riding 50/50. I’m moving more towards off road single track. In Pennsylvania USA. I’m an older rookie doing the whole bucket list thing… life is short… no fear, faith without stupidity attitude. Did the MABDR here in the US and I’m looking for trails and a tire thats a tad more aggressive with my upcoming riding style, but not as aggressive as you yet…lol. I’m leaning towards this tire, but saw your reference to the Maxxis 6006 tire. We have no sand and more loose dirt, mud, rocks and lots of gravel. Had good experience with the TKC 80’s. Would you recommend the Rallz or Maxxis 6006 and what front tire? Thanks for the recommendation 🤙🏼

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Hey Derek, any time it's loose this tyre is going to shine in comparison to the TKC and M6006. For the front, Motoz Desert HT 90/100 all day, this tyre is transformative for the DR. See our review video if you have not already.

@JM-dz4ii Год назад

Hey Skids, would the Rallz be good for the crf300 rally? And if it isn't, can you recommend something. I'm using my rally as a dual sport. I'm carrying luggage and riding tarmac to get to rocky dirt roads. Glad I ran across your channel.

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

There's a lot of options out there for 18" that I have no experience with but as far as the Rallz goes, yeh I can see it being worth a try on that bike

@jeffloucks2120 Год назад

I'm considering it for the rear of the 300l but also thinking about the weight of the tire. Motoz always seem to trend in the heftier end in weight. We don't have a whole lot of gusto in these little fun machines.

@peterwoodlands1968 2 года назад

Got a RallZ on the back of my KTM 990 Adventure . Heading outback NSW tomorrow for a 4k kms trip mainly dirt . will let you know how it goes on the biker bike

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

Cheers Pete I'm sure it will love every second

@Hebhansen Год назад

Great review 👍 Thx. What are your thoughts? R1250GS... I am realistically 35 dirt and 65 road. I do plan to go further into dirt. Rallz seems amazing. I have doubts if Adventure is a better choice. Front wheel.... What would you chhoce in my situation? I concider Desert too much for the time on road. Please share your thoughts, front for Rallz rear on GS and front for Adventure rear? Thx Henrik

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Id be tempted to go the Adventure front and rear on that bike

@Hebhansen Год назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF do you have a review of Adventure?

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

@@Hebhansen no I havnt used them personally

@hometownguy7184 Год назад

Does the rallz make a ton of road howl noise??my 606s on my 690 ktm is load as shit and vibrates bad

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

RallZ has much nicer road manners than the d606

@muzzarobbo 11 месяцев назад

Hey mate, thanks for the reviews. Have you tried the maxxis m6006 on the front? im after something a bit more road orientated compared to the motoz desert ht, and also on a bit of a budget. on a drz400 and originally got a set of d606 but quickly realized the front is garbage. Thanks!

@SKIDSnSTUFF 11 месяцев назад

Nar hasn't tried the m6006 front. The motoz dualventure could be a good more road oriented option

@muzzarobbo 11 месяцев назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF looks maybe a bit too road oriented, have you tried the RallZ front?

@manuelfr932 Год назад

Hola , que medida trasera para la DRZ 400 DEL RALLZ?? GRACIAS

@SKIDSnSTUFF Год назад

Yeh should be an alright choice if doing a lot of road kms. Lots of options out there for the DRZ.

@ozbiker5311 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the reply champ 👍👍are you still running the Rallz on the rear, how would you compare the Rallz to the Dunlop 606

@frogzie 2 года назад

Thank you for the comprehensive review. How would you compare the RallZ to a D606? Cheers

@SKIDSnSTUFF 2 года назад

The D606 will be similar to the DesertHT, signing off early cornering on harder pack terrain... with the added bonus of being a bitch to install. Though it is a very hardy tyre that can handle being run at lower pressures. A well renowned all rounder option. I won't touch them though

@U-Have-Fun-2 2 года назад

@@SKIDSnSTUFF I,ve been using the Rallz on the rear of my 1190 ,6000 kms ,, great tyre for that bike > I feel the 606 is a better tyre on my DR performance wise as apposed to the RallZ only because it grips a little better on road & off road being a softer tyre. But the major downside to the 606 is wear vs that slight performance gain , I only get 2500 km out of the 606. So my go to now is the RallZ on the rear of the DR because of the tyre life & performance makes it a much better choice value wise.