Well I did say some, sadly not all. Not all of us can be Plastic Paddy fenians can we? I have no problem with the Irish Republic. I have a problem with armed terrorists trying to force a populace into that republic when a majority have no wish to do so.
The French stole Alsace and Lothingren (I like to use the German name for Lorraine, my little vice) in the 17th century while the HRE was busy fighting to keep the Ottomans from conquering all of Europe (Siege of Vienna), and they did start the Franco-Prussian war in the first place, the Prussian simply finished it. Anyway I also agree this has been quite entertaining and I'm glad we both got through it without any name calling or invective. Glad to know we can disagree so deeply and be civil.
It doesn't matter to me what flag a terrorist waves, the provos are just that, and Sinn Feinn by association and concession. And no I'm not Scottish, I'm English Dutch and German thanks, though they do have my sympathy, but that is the sort of thing that happened in the 18th century when you supported a deposed king. If we are going to lay out a laundry list of crimes done, I assure you, no one is blameless, by now everyone has plenty of blood on their hands.
As part German, you should say a little prayer for the 100,000 German civilians that "Bomber Harris" and the Brits firebombed to death in Dresden in order to show Stalin how tough the Allies could be. Even Hitler just used V-1 and V-2s You should study history more before defending one of mankind's all-time mass murderers - the British government. "by now everyone has plenty of blood on their hands." And what country did Ireland invade? Or do you blame a rape victim for fighting back?
Pillaging is one thing; the colonization of a country and genocide of its people is an entirely different matter. Pillaging is quite common in warfare. "To the victors belong the spoils." A man of Ulster, Andrew Jackson, said that. Looking at it your way, would we agree that the Welsh 1500 years ago had the right to kill someone who was trying to pillage them and their women? What about stealing their entire country? Yet you say the Irish of today cannot repel a foreign invader?
Well if we are going to blame a group currently for what their predecessors did, then the Irish have plenty of blood on their hand for the constant raiding and slaving which they perpetuated along the Welsh, English and Scottish coasts for centuries after the Roman withdraw until the English invasion. Or does history only begin when it suits your political beliefs? You are aware that the term "Gael" is a corruption of the Welsh term Guoidel meaning pirate or raider.
Well, I think a lot of your landsmen and their French neighbors did do that, giving us the Franco-Prussian War, and others. So, who were the terrorists in that war, the French or the Germans? Anyway, this exchange has been entertaining and fairly civil. Work calls. So, since I left the first 'reply', I'll sign off now (this could go on interminably, right?) and leave you to follow up with the last reply, if you so choose.
And as Part German I could be like you and support the German nationalist groups who want the return of traditionally German regions, such as Alsace, Ostpreussen, Pommerania, and Lothingren that were invaded and taken by foreign powers. However I don't not only because such group are violent in nature but also because the inhabitants of those areas largely have no wish to annexed or returned to Germany, despite any traditional claim the Germans might have to them.
You know I considered saying something about Noraid, but I though "no even if he is misguided I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he isn't funding murder." Shame I was wrong. And you don't get to invoke the patriot militias when talking about terrorists that bomb civilians and murder farmers, there's a difference. I also would call myself a loyalist, unless of course you mean loyal to the United States. I simply feel solidarity with people who have been bombed and shot at.
agree completely, who gave new zealand to the white man? who gave australia to the white man? who gave canada to the white man? who gave america to the white man? who gave britain (not england) to the english? who gave poland, austria,france,holland,chezchoslovakia, silesia, romania etc to the nazis the list is endless, and your point is? this is a top notch band just listen and don,t judge as the man said judge not lest ye be judged.
Following in the proud tradition of the Minutemen, the Green Mountain Boys and the White Mountain Boys: the only thing plastic about this Paddy is the plastic explosives my contributions to Noraid paid for. Anyway, I thought all the Loyalists fled to Canada after the Revolutionary War. Strange finding you here. So, if you want to talk about forced repatriation, I advise you to learn what the Brits did to the Scots during the Highland Clearances. Those were your people, no?
