Movies vs Reality: Amazon Stun Guns are Getting Out of Hand 

*Suggest more products with crazy specs you want to see tested below!* If you think longer duration of the shock would make a difference, or that you could even accomplish that, I recommend this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-me60gWzbMXw.html When last doing Horns and Lasers A LOT of you damn viewers commented about stun gun ratings on Amazon, and can't say I appreciated that at the time as the rest of the team saw those too and it was a bit of a Mexican standoff over here about doing them. Luckily Amazon came through as usual with unregulated highly exaggerated sales pitches and testing these didn't even ruin my day really. A few red marks, a little but brief soreness from the Vipertek, that's it. Please don't use or gift a stun gun as a personal defense weapon, it's likely going to do innocent people more harm than good.

I come for the information, I stay for the bad puns

Can't believe you zapped yourselves, and RATING IT.👍 Thank you calling these companies out. Edit: you could do a whole channel on these stun devices

The proper way to measure high voltage for these things is to solder wires to the electrodes, run the wires to a spark gap with calibrated spherical electrodes. Hold the stun gun under insulating oil (Shell Diala S4 ZX-IG) to prevent local discharge and measure the minimum gap. Bending the terminals can lead to sharp corners which lowers the sparking voltage. Just an FYI in case you or others are interested. Cheers.

I'm a self defense and firearms instructor.These products will not stop and aggravated attacker.The reason OC spray works even on a determined attacker, is because it causes involuntary eye closure that can't be overcome with practice.

You guys should have measured the lumens of some of the stun guns in stun mode because it seems like some of the arcs were brighter than the flashlights

You need to test pepper spray and pepper gel and pepper foam now. Order them and spray each other with the pepper spray to let us know which is best.

"yup, that hurts. ... Let's do it again"

This is the reason I think Amazon is pretty in a very bad shape right now, everything I searched are 1 or 2 known reputable brand plus millions of unheard Chinese brands filled with inflated reviews.

Electroboom made a good video on a similar topic. In his video, he shows that for every 15,000-25,000 volts, arcs form over 1cm, which would be the distance needed between the prongs. For the 14 million volt claim, this would mean a prong distance of roughly 700cm, 7m, or, in freedom units, 23ft, not to mention this would arc to you or anything within 23ft, which would instantly fry you.

You need to add a cattle prod for a control device for the pain scale of 10

Moral of the story: any product with a paragraph long name from a company you never heard of probably isn't something you want to trust your wellbeing to.

The voltage required to jump a gap is also dependent upon the shape of the electrode. Sharp corners reduce the required voltage so you may be over rating the voltage produced by these stun guns.

The issue is that these type of „stun guns“ aren‘t that, they are purely pain compliance tools and as such don‘t work on doped up or determined people. As a less-lethal option a good pepper spray is superior.

I commend you sir, this is the torture test channel😆

Amazon has got to reign in these companies that advertise whatever they want

After receiving a bad dog bite as a delivery driver, I purchased a Vipertek on the recommendation of the local sheriff. I've never actually stunned a dog with it, because the sound alone scares 95% of the bad dogs away on the first zap. Consequently, I've purchased more than 50 of these for my co-workers, family and friends. Oh and when you return to the homes of the bad dogs, the dogs remember you and generally keep their distance or go and hide.

I've shocked myself with these things. As far as I can tell they're pretty much useless as an actual self-defense weapon. They might work as an intimidation device but unlike a taser The user has to keep the electrodes in constant contact with the targets body and the immediate reaction to getting hit with one of these is to jump out of the way of it. I think that pepper spray is a much more effective non-lethal deterrent.

I had a 240v heated throw blanket that somehow held charge like a capacitor when unplugged an controller cord removed. I was so stunned and disbelieving of first minor kick that I went to inspect and copped a second real big one and 3rd small in quick succession. I was crook and everything ached for hours after that.

Thank you! 4:10 Discreet🙄……yes, openly carrying a $1000 phone should deter most neerdowells😎

This was an electrifying video. Shocking to see the results. Should be a jolt to manufacturers to rate things more accurately, though I think they might feel a zap in sales. I gotta bolt now, cheers

Against a human these are a terrible idea. Not just because of the false sense of security they give, but I imagine the shock would just piss off an attacker and get you a worse beating.

You guys should test portable power banks. Feel like most mAh ratings are fake.

The pink set is to be used together pepper spray then use the stunner as an ignition source lighting them on fire 😂

The part you left out is how to properly use them. Press to abdomen and hold there for three to four seconds. The one that is a seven would drop someone to the ground and incapacitate them for several minutes. Probably some of the others would too. It's not just a quick touch.

Now I want a YT channel where famous people are interviewed and get stungunned between questions with increasingly painful versions. Call it Shock Ones.

most stun guns are around 50kV. i always assumed it was because of the air gap formula and the size of something you can hold in your hand. also, they share essentially the same basic circuitry so no reason to change it up. you can get calibrated devices that deliver a very specific pulsed voltage too, often used for chemistry experiments (again, in the same 50kV ballpark)

The reason Tasers work so well against all but the most hardened/drug fucked crims is not only the discharge electrodes being stuck to their clothing/skin, but also the waveform. Taser has done a lot of research into making their product effective at taking down attackers. The shock circuitry in a Taser actually uses a waveform that paralyzes the extremities e.g. arms and legs. Thats why targets recover so quickly after getting tased. All these things do is give you a painful electric shock, as you discovered.

I've often wondered about these. Ie, so let's say you are using it to stop an attacker, what happens when you left go of the trigger? The answer seems to be, now you have a really pissed off attacker who is not in pain anymore.

The problem is that no one forces Amazon to take care of what is published. Then they make false advertising at ease

Props to you for riding the lightning.

I've been hit with the Taser X26 twice... 10/10 for me. I've heard the new 7 is even worse. 😬

I think contact duration matters too. Yeah .. a quick tap .. and it's no big deal, but if someone holds one of these against you for a full second or longer .. I think it will be seriously discouraging of further attack.

My buddy had a vipertek(?) stun gun back in the day. Seemed to be top of the line at the given time. It was loud. Could wake up a sleeping adult within seconds. I remember I walked up to him and my other friend and pretended like I was going to stun myself by flipping on the flash light, yet I actually pressed the stun button with my thumb over the probes. I just remember falling straight to the floor like someone switched off my legs. It was insane. Of course no long-term lingering pain, other than feeling like an idiot. But I was very impressed. Good times

I love how people in movies are knocked unconscious 95% of the time when tasered. In my experience it has the opposite affect, people get very vocal and animated.

The ViperTek one was clear it hurt far more than the other ones. None of the other ones had you tense up after the shock.

Not too impressed with these stun guns for personal security. I've had a lot of success carrying my Thor impact wrench. I whip it out, it looks plenty serious, guys run.

Pro tip: If you are using pepper spray, aim for the nose and mouth (getting eyes for good measure after won't hurt) . It's a lot harder to fight if you can't breathe than if you can't see.

The worst thing about the pink one is that it is easy to see so it would be easy for someone to identify it and grab it out of someone's hands where it then quickly goes from being a self-defense tool to being a threat to themselves.

I love the idea of a produce listing on Amazon casually mentioning that it "causes intolerable pain" lmao

Takes a man to shock theirselves over and over again especially with the sound of them things.. Hats off too ya and great videos one of my favorite channels on all of RU-vid. Been watching you guys since the beginning back with the ole semi truck lug nut tests 😂😂and it’s amazing to see the progress this channel has made.

I've been "party fouled" with a real 85k volt police stunner before, and. Well I had a great time. Superb. Sleeping(overhung) at 7:30AM after a wild 25 people apartment party bender. They also ruined my khaki (colored) jeans with blue shaving cream. Good night. Anyways, not surprised by these results. 50kV is considered the "standard" for effective stun guns. To see the >50kV give a real body response solidifies it. Thanks for your sacrifice! I hope you don't develop some messed up feelings about pain after building yourself up to it so much.

Frequency and arc length tend to be the biggest factors that determine felt pain. Considering the very small gap, none of these “stun guns” will incapacitate a physically fit adult. Edit Higher voltage allows for a longer arc as demonstrated by the Viper. High end units use a microprocessor to regulate frequency which can effect muscle spasms and cause considerably more pain.

Be interesting to see how they compare to the legit police issue units. Maybe even cattle "persuaders" or dog shock collars.

Next I think we need to see if these can be modded for higher output. A Makita 40v battery might give a decent amount of improvement.

It's way worse when someone is pushing the stun gun into you and holding the trigger- your reflexes are giving you just one pop.

You might already know this, but....stun guns have two phases. Phase one is to make the make the repeated Buuzzzzzz for intimidation and warning. Then when it actually comes into contact with something, switched to a higher voltage to actually do damage. Not sure if these do that, but theres that

Very interesting video. Seems like Vipertek, which is the only moderately effective model of those you tested, is large/bulky enough that it couldn't be easily carried in a pocket or small purse, making its use case questionable. And ff you carry it in a backpack or large purse, you then have to count on being able to fish it out in the time between when you realize there's a threat and when you need to use it. Pepper spray products seem like a much better option to me.

Legitimately appreciate your work on this one. I carry a small stick one when I walk my dog just to scare off random loose dogs and the noise and smell of ozone I think makes them think twice. But might get the Vipertek for just a bit more... Tasers are just too expensive at $300.

"This will be a dimly lit walk with your chihuahua" 😂😂😂

Your quest for knowledge has made me question your sanity. 😀 Love your work!

So stun guns are going to be the gateway drug into the autosadism trend the channel suddenly pivots to? :P lol

That was fun. I’m impressed by your dedication to your art. When are we getting the Frankenstein V8 powered stun gun/elephant deterrent?

This video started me down a late night rabbit hole of watching people get tazered. 😂

7:03 "now is it fun? No".... understatment of the year, lol.

Movies portray these things as rending people unconscious for an extended period of time. As you've shown, that's not at all how they work. People need to understand just how useless most of these things are. Criminals knows they are worthless and won't be deterred by toy stun gun. Like you said pepper spray is a better option for anyone not willing to use lethal force. I'd love to genuine cattle prods tested and compared to these. I don't think these things should be considered for self defense.

The interesting thing to me is how much your subjective pain metric increased with only relatively small increases in the delivered voltage. I'd be interested in seeing another video of this sort, with more reliable brands (if indeed there are any). It seems likely that an achieved 75-85KV could potentially actually be effective.

The pepper spray one is actually smart, the method is probably blind them, then if they grab hold of you shock their arm in the hopes that the sudden surprise of that pain will make them let you go.

I was stunned to see the video was removed.

I think the flashlight part is likely to justify it as a carry able device in some places. I would think that the key to using one of these is to aim for bare skin. Nail someone who's holding on with one of these and they'll likely let go, if only for a moment. The smaller one's can be no more than toys though. I gave one to a lady friend who was having issues with her neighbor. Her big and bad ass son, (6ft4in tall, 320 lbs) tells me they don't hurt and those things don't have enough power to stop a chihuahua. Then he pressed the thing to his neck and lit it up. His fat sweaty neck must have made one hell of a conductor. That said, i didn't buy mine from Amazon, it came from a law enforcement supplier and was rated at 50kv/4.85 milliamps. About the same as a police taser. I would guess being more of a professional model, its specs are likely more accurate to reality. The funniest part was the black burnt snake bite it left on his neck that lasted for a week or more. No amount of coaxing or cash would get him to take another shot of that thing. His mother was mad at me in the end, probably because I was laughing so hard, as were several of his buddies. I can't say how much it hurts, there's no way I'm nailing myself with that thing. One thing I did notice is that it came with spare electrodes, and playing with it does burn away the contact points. It smells like someone welding when its arcing. The key to its use is not to stand there arcing the thing and waving it around, that's only depleting the battery and the charge. Its best used only in surprise to afford an escape.

the main problem with 'stun guns' is that its not really possible to maintain contact with the target long enough for the electricity to incapacitate, its why police mainly use the deployable tasers

I tested a few of these Chinese stun guns and most peak at about 35kv peak. The reason for testing was for a cheap trigger coil for large laser flash lamp tubes, the alternative was spending about 250 bucks for an EG&G trigger coil.

MUCH RESPECT for this video, you tried them out, very cool. GREAT CONTENT!

The whole point of a “stun gun” is to drive it into the attacker, they usually be on top or wrapped around you hence why we in the LE call it “drive stun” it’s to be used when your taser is non deployable.

There is an issue I have here with some of the tests. When you turn those sharp points you're changing the angle they point at eachother, which alone (even if the gap remained the same) will increase the voltage required to cross the gap. You can test this easily. See the MIT 802 class videos for an explanation I am nowhere near qualified to give.

What a legend. Actually testing these on yourself, big ups. Also do you recommend any of these for hunting?

1 year into the future: "Hi, this is the torque test channel and today we're testing how much torque these thumb screws can make, as well as the advertised rate of confession..."

Thank you so much for making the audio levels normal and not extra loud too many RU-vidrs don’t put the care in it but you do and I love you for

Hey round 2 try it again! Was watching the 1st one, and all of a sudden it said it was no longer available?

I have that pink stun gun! I carry it alongside some mace, hidden blades, and more when I go on walks for self defence. I think for the most part, the shock itself or at least the thought of shock will deter most attackers. If not, well, I have deadlier options at my disposal. 🤷🏽‍♀

"I was very sweaty after" you made me laugh out loud!

This was the best video I've seen in a while (since last fridays video) love it keep it up 🤙🏻🔥

To clarify, using the 3000V per mm, the 59B would be able to jump almost 20km…close to 24 Burj Khalifas….

Good morning

The main thing that makes non commercially available stun guns lethan is the current rating, law enforcement tasers run at micro amps with low current ratings the reason they are so much more effective is the direct contact with range, more than 30000 volts for any stun gun with 1 cm spacings isn’t possible Also you can tell pretty easily if they are bad quality by the arc, the less the colour is to the white spectrum the lower they are and the lower the lumen output the stronger they are dependant on how it is measured and on time (mainly because violet and blue have shorter wavelengths so they have higher energy = more photons but at the same frequency red emits more lumens), lower rated frequency of the pulse in relation to its current the less effective it is You can tell by everything that the numbers are whacky and the best course of action is the colour of the arc in most cases

@Torque Test Channel bringing new meaning to the phrase *"Torture Test"*

I think most of these, if held to someone for longer then a second or two will probably deter someone. I have a friend that works in the law enforcement and I asked if he works stun me. He had a genuine taser x26. He couldn't use the cartridge to shoot me some be could have gotten in trouble for that, but he did hold it against my arm the several seconds until I basically started to kneel. If he had only held it to my skin for about a second like in your video, I feel my reaction was about the same as you had with these. Time increases effectiveness with these products. If you've ever seen someone get tasered with the projectile probes, you know the officer has to hold the button for a bit until people fall over.

Way to take one for the team TTC. I suffer from Atrial fibrillation and I can tell you unless it's leaving blisters it's not hurting. The treatment for such is a shock from a Defibrillator. That hurts

I've seen this video in my feed for a few weeks now, it didn't look that interesting. I'm glad I finally watched it. I was laughing out loud the whole time, great video!

Talk about commitment! Ouch! Great job again.

I can’t believe you’re lighting yourself up with these. What a stud!

This is very entertaining to watch! I love the data sets. Bring on the beans!

The problem with the phone one is it may actually attract an aggressor that wants to steal your phone.

Hitting yourself with the a stun gun to get us a review! Thats diligence! Much respect, and thanks!

Those numbers are wild and made me wheeze 😹😹😹😹

Great video as always. I would love to see you guys do videos on LED lights for video production. Looking at lumen/lux, color retention, CRI-TLCI, noise with active cooling, and so on.

“Yes 3 lumens, 3 of them” Oh man 😂😂

Others have suggested testing pepper spray products. You can test those on patches of skin instead of your eyes for comparison purposes

Props on the dedication to thorough testing.

😅I'm so thankful you checked these out. Thank you for your bravery 🤗

This was actually quite interesting. Thanks for putting this together.

Youve more than earned a like from everyone who watches this. Testing on yourself was extremely dedicated and informative. Thank you. Though i'm disappointed in the devices themselves. I expected more "disorientation" from the shocks. But now i know better than to rely on one for self defense

The SLOWER the frequency of the stun gun, the more effective it is in ‘stunning’ an assailant. These high frequency toys just cause minor discomfort.

Talk about dedication lol i stunned myself one time with one that came from a gun shop and man never again. Luckily i was sitting down when i did it

Bro those fly zappers are no joke. That's a 1?? And a paintball is a 5?? Id take a paintball to the back or gut over a fly zapper every day of the week. Props to you having the balls to repeatedly shock yourself with different products just to have an objective comparison, that is not easy or fun. Id say the pain paid off, you made a great video

Oh man, by far the funniest review you have done.

Well different from anything I've come to expect from torque test. Thanks for actually zapping yourself and showing that these things aren''t actually the magic they show on TV where people pass out and fall down.

"The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand!" *clicklicklicklicklick*

You compared the pain to various other injuries - hitting your finger with a hammer, paintball on bare skin, etc. To be truly sciencey, you really need to make a video with those comparisons. I look forward to watching it.

i would venture to say that the friphone looks like a phone so it won't be considered a weapon. like if an attacker makes you give them your phone, you can whip this one out, pretend it's a phone you're giving them and zap them at the last moment in a complete surprise. surprise is always an edge.