So true!! I can tell! The not knowing and just vanishing like that, something did happen to him, but whatever that did happen, remains completely unknown, it would bother me too, even you know if I married and moved on happily, it would still have that haunting affect on me on some degree
@@ELEKTRA_LUXXX I totally agree with both of you ! I have watched this a few times while searching for other stores on Brian and I can see the look on her face after 10 years for that interview she did that it looked like she was still very upset about his disappearance even though she has moved on to a brand new life getting married , kids and her practice even moving to another town ! I can tell she wanted to cry if she could ! She was very strong not too ! Anyways your right ! The unknown is hard ! Because you are always wondering what could have happened that night ? God bless her and her family ! Now it has been 15 long years and still no answers and unsolved ! 🙏🙏😢😢
this story sounds similar to an employee of a supermarket that went missing about 12 years ago in Iowa and his body was found in 2019 behind some freezers
i went to high school with someone who has been missing since 2005. It was always sad driving past his home seeing several missing signs in his front yard with his photo on it. His sister worked at the fred meyer in town and you could always tell how sad she was
So horribly sad but great to see how well Alexis is doing with her little family now. And despite this, she still made this film which was a really great thing to do. She moved on, yes, but she didn't forget Brian. The True Crime Garage did a 2 part podcast on Brian's story and it's well worth a listen. Good luck, Alexis and let's hope for Derek's sake too that the mystery is one day solved X
No. It's not "baffling". This case has simply (obviously) been deliberately manipulated. The party responsible is well connected in a significant way in regards to this investigation. It very well may never be "solved" & it's pretty obvious someone(s) who matters wants it that way.
After I read of the tragic Brian Shaffer case I found myself kinda obsessively googling to try and find out what happened to Brian (sadly no news, tho I was horrified to learn of his fathers bizarre death from a falling tree and that his mother had passed away from cancer a month before Brisn vanished into the thin air of the unfortunately named Ugly Tuna Saloona) but mainly I wished to know if Alexis had found love and become a doctor...happily yes! My fiance unexpectedly and mysteriously died in his sleep at 42 so I could relate to the heartbreaking change in the direction of your life. Very glad to see Alexis is s happy mom and doctor! Happy Mother's Day Alexis and my heart goes out to Brian's brother and family, may we find Brian!
same here! barely found out about this and became a bit obssesed wanting know what did happen to him. really glad tho at least Alexis is doing good in life. with what happened to his dad and mom I hope his brother is doing fine.
It'd be nice to hear more from Clint about what happened that night. Especially after he walked Meredith to her car. C'mon man! What are you so afraid of if you're completely innocent. You don't need mommy and daddy to hold your hand. Be a man! Proclaim your innocence so we can put a part of this to rest.
If someone was going to leave for a new life, they wouldn't do it: 1. drunk at 2 am on a Saturday morning, 2. two days before a trip already paid for. 3. after studying like crazy to pass school tests
Brian Shaffer's disappearance is just so haunting; it's one of the rare missing person cases that has stayed with me for years. Anyway, Alexis says that she's had the chance to step away and not have Brian's disappearance be the focus of her life; which I don't begrudge her (though getting married 3 years after his disappearance seems rather quick to move on). The one I really feel sorry for is Brian's brother Derek. This poor man lost his mother, brother, and father in rather quick succession and is the only one left of that family. Alexis may feel like what happened is all in her past and she no longer thinks about it, but Derek will probably never be able to detach his emotions so easily.
Do you hear yourself ??? 3 years is a long time .... what did you want her to do wait 10 ? she found happiness and that’s all that matters. She had to move on for her. Not to impress the likes of y’all.
I initially thought it was rather fast as well but it took me 5 years to get over my ex I haven't met anyone yet though. But yeah I think what happened was she had her life planned out and wanted certain things at certain periods and marriage is what she wanted in 2009 she wanted it to be brian but unfortunately that happened I see some denial in her that she's completely separated from this part of her life I think she has stuffed part of the emotion in thats how she copes so it feels like almost real but its not so I think counseling would help but I guess that's just how she wants to deal with it i also see her saying "why did he leave me" so she chose to only believe he's still out there and left not the alternative that would be incredibly painful I think that was less painful for her and helped her move on fast too. She misses him a lot more than she'd like to admit but worked her whole life to get where she is and didn't want anything getting in the way especially grief.
I don’t think it’s quick at all. They weren’t married, they were together less than a year. Thank goodness she is in a happy place with a loving family.
This case is so sad. Brian's family was struck with some seriously *_BAD_* luck. First his beloved mother dies from some freaky rare disease, then Brian vanishes into thin air, then his father gets killed by a falling tree, of all things. Now, the only fam he has left is his brother. And of course his girlfriend, Alexis seen here. I definitely believe his "drinking buddy" of that night, Clint Florence, is responsible for his death. In a situation like this, the odds of the culprit being the very same person that was last seen with the victim is extremely high. I think it's over 90%. Meaning that roughly 9 out of 10 times, the pwrson they are last seen with is the cold-blooded killer. I also believe that Brian's death was an accident of sorts. I think that Clint Florence had hurt him, maybe they got into a drunken fistfight (which is not uncommon), and Florence ended up killing him by accident and panicking. Making him dispose of the body. Probably in the nearby river. Im not a psychic or anything crazy like that. I've nust done a lot of research on this case, and that's nust my opinion. Florence also flat out refused to take a lie detector/polygraph test. And still does, to this day. Weird, if you ask me. He's definitely hiding something.
i think it happened in the construction site and clint (or whoever) put his body in a hole or place where the construction would be built on top of his body, never able to be found. thats how you have to look at this, where on earth does it make sense, considering all the facts, could he end up where he would never be discovered and imo it would be the construction site. the answer remains the same if one put self in a killers mindset in respect to where to get rid of the body without having to leave the building, construction site.. it should be dug up and combed imo as im confident hes there :(
William Savary Yeah Clint Florence clearly must’ve had something to do with Brian’s disappearance. He refused to take a lie detector test. He knows what happened to Brian. I wonder why the police haven’t charged him with anything or question him again. Innocent people don’t behave like this.
I'm sure they had dogs sniffing the whole area and whatever else to see if that was the case. Sad that this case has not been solved. Glad to see his old GF moving on and happy, but i am sure she still has the hopes that one day it will be solved.
Clint was seen on camera leaving down the escalator though.. So how would he have gone back and disposed of the body? Its almost impossible. On top of that, its a busy bar at closing time, someone would have seen it happen.
Investigators brought in cadaver dogs that would have easily found him. According to all of the shows on ID Discovery, a decomposing body is supposed to be horrific and detectable from a great distance. The dogs would have found him if he somehow ended up behind a wall.
I heard the bar is a rumored trafficking hub for young men. They probably weren't aware of what kind of danger they were in. I think it's possible that he was targeted somehow and trafficked.
Es una historia muy triste y yo no creo que ella siga enamorada de Brian pero es muy generosa al seguir buscándolo, ella y su marido y familia. Porque si no fuera por ella quien lo buscaría? Brian ha perdido a sus padres que murieron y el hermano no le he visto por internet ni en ningún vídeo buscándolo, supongo que todos entonces haríamos lo mismo que Alexis o por lo menos yo si. Mi consciencia no me permitiría vivir sin buscar a cualquier persona cercana a mí o no que no tiene a nadie que luche ya no por encontrarle vivo o no, sino para saber que pasó.
Police checked the site right after he went missing when they couldn't find him on the surveillance camera at the front door. The back exit was a clear sight for other buildings surveillance camera & they couldn't see Brian leaving the back door either. Honestly - I think he got lost in the crowd that's how nobody can pick him up on the cameras. Instead of the 2 girls, he met up with some bigger guys with the same height as him & that's why its harder for him to be recognized. He did get into a fight with his friend that night.. its possible he just hung out with strangers the whole night
So glad she is happy. What a traumatic thing to go through. Hope they find out what happened to Brian and if there was foul play - we still want justice.
That is one strong woman. To continue at medical school and also be trying to find her boyfriend. I hope she has a wonderful life. She deserves it. Personally I think Brian is deceased. I don't know what happened to him, but I hope he is watching over her and his brother.
I feel bad or her. She is still haunted by the event. I am glad she moved on and has a great life but there is a part of her that will always remember he has never been found.
After seeing this I further believe he was murdered by someone that drew him into an area of that complex outside the bar right after he re entered. How many people left the bar at 2am? His friends were in that crowd and he supposedly put on a disguise and walked passed them being 6’2”? He would have stood out no matter what he put on.
Of course she just so happens to have the most inadvertently confusing use of language at the most critical part in the conversation, so it's just as much of a mystery what she's saying as the mystery itself. She says "when it first happened, like how could somebody leave and how could he do that to me and obviously that's impossible so something horrible must have happened, but now with a lot of distance and a lot of time and now I I mean II think I probably have less of.... it feels like it happened to somebody else." The first time I heard it I interpreted as though she suspects he left and started a new life, but now I think it could go either way. I'm literally 50/50 in reference to this just coming out wrong or if she's insinuating that she thinks he started a new life. How irritating!
She is a doctor. I believe they have their own way of discussing highly emotional situations. They are trained to always keep a certain level of detachment. That is how I interpret it, anyway. Thank you.
She seems lovely and it's so nice she really moved on. You have to. Concerning Brain himself - I've always said he absolutely must still be on that site. They were able to identify every single person leaving that bar, expect him. That can only mean he's still there. I have a feeling bones will be found there one day.
Probably killed or abducted on the way home around the Wendy’s restaurant (camera wasn’t working) after slipping out of a back door of the bar to avoid his friends. Search dogs apparently tracked his scent from the alternative bar exit up to the Wendy’s area. Possibly a robbery or drunken fight gone too far. Doubt we’ll ever know.
Its said theres a service entrance located relatively close to the only entrance into the bar where he was last seen. Theres also a roof access point on the second level within the Gateway building. The bar relocated some years ago.
I looked up Alexis due to being a new patient with her at her practice and not having met her yet. She is an incredibly strong woman and i cannot wait for my appointment. I wont be bring this up but im happy she positively got through something that couldve easily broke her.
Are you still her patient? If so, I'd like to tell her what happened to Brian, she probably would like to know. I didn't want to contact her directly, but maybe if you're still a patient of hers you could pass along what I said. She could respond here and I'll get it. Thanks, and if you think it's inappropriate that's fine, I understand.
@@seriouslynothingmakesanyse6418 Shame on you. Why do you insult a stranger? You have no idea who I am, yet you know this. How? You shouldn't be so negative. It doesn't help.
@@MrMarco855 what do you mean ? Do you know something that happened to him you should go to the authorities if you are serious and really know something
@@miranda13c yeah champ where did I say it was a conspiracy theory??? 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ You don’t have to agree that he looks similar so pack up your crayons 🖍 and run along . Thank you
I can still see the pain within for sure but glad she’s moved on. I am Brian’s same age this year. I’m baffled by this very much so also. I do have a very bad unexplained vision that he was somehow trafficked that night outside of the state. Then resisted & unfortunately that’s how he went out.
I just don’t get it though. Disappearing willingly having been at a bar on camera, surrounded by tons of people all night. Where could he go to continuously avoid detection. The only way it’s feasible is if he’d planned it with someone to shelter him somewhere. I think taking his own life is more likely than running away. Especially if he’d just had a big argument with Clint as is speculated. He’d had an awful time with his mother passing and might have been one push away from doing it…… but even then, where’s the body? It’s one crazy case that’s for sure.
So now even the woman who loved him has largely put him out of her mind. This isn't unusual, and it's certainly not wrong on her part. It is, though, a melancholy comment on what becomes of all of us aside from the exceedingly rare William Shakespeare or Abraham Lincoln. It reminds me of the scene in the movie TROY in which Achilles' mother tells him that, if he doesn't go to the war, he'll remain an admired Greek warrior, and he'll have children and grandchildren who love him, but, after that, even he'll be forgotten.
She certainly needed to move on but to hear that she's removed from it and I've also read other articles in which she said there's no emotion around it. I think is pretty heartless and cold. It sounds like she really does think that he abandoned her and there's a bit of anger there. But I think that's ridiculous....somebody's who's going to take off from their life is not going to buy tickets to go on vacation.
sunshine91671 It probably sounds heartless and cold because its been more than a decade, and she has learned to compartmentalize his disappearance in order to cope with it and move on in her life. This isn't unique. This is what thousands of families do to handle life while a loved one is missing for years.
She didn't forget him, she just realised that he won't be coming back and had to move on. Her agreeing to do this interview clearly shows that she sill cares, just not to the extent of ruining her own life .
its sad but glad you have moved on, probably she couldnt get over it because she didnt have closure and only by having her own family that she finally can focus on somebody else..
I’m sorry but maybe it’s just me what if his best friend, Clint was involved in his disappearance? I read somewhere they were giving lie detector tests to everyone but him? Why is that? What can he possibly know about Brian? Brian’s family needs closure.
I think he started a new life. I once saw someone that looked like him. At the time of the encounter I knew nothing of who he was, it was later that I ran across a video here on RU-vid about him. Do I think it was him?? Anything is possible.
Was human trafficking never looked at ? Plus he has nothing that could show he had the vilify to disappear without anyone noticing him but to hear his friend refuses to cooperate any further really looks bad. This kid had a secret or was killed.
I’m not sure what you mean by you saw it with your own eyes. If you are sure you have solved the case then tell me and I will go to Derek myself. I live near him and have no problem if I’m convinced with approaching him.
If Derek wants to hear what happened, I'm easy to contact. I don't need you to filter the information. It's that easy; Derek needs to be serious and attentive, the story isn't what anyone has ever mentioned. He has to be open minded, not with an attitude as if doing me a favor. That's what it takes, and that's all I ask.
@Steve Kane......I waited many months hoping to tell Derek what I discovered but he never gave me the chance. If you want to discuss this, maybe by email but we probably shouldn't say anything here.
@Richard StarnerYou've gotten yourself in some trouble, just wait and read my last response. What in the hell are you talking about a 50 year old man about? You're a real evil and ignorant Person. I've worked with 3 FBI agents recently, and I'm going to my attorney. If you own anything I'll take it in a slander lawsuit. I'm 64 years old and I'm not playing with you junior. You have run your face far too much, you should listen to me and stay quiet now. I can prove every word I've said, and I can prove you slandered my name. When I talk with my lawyer, you'll have to explain your actions, I have n o fear whatsoever, but you should because you're not a clean person and the dirt will be exposed. By the way, it's personal that you made sure to expose my name. Anyone can find it, I never hide anything because I have no shame, I feel no guilt. But it's still a personal thing that you put my name out, I'm involved in many cases where murder was committed. You've endangeredme, but more importantly my wife and grandson, and for that I'm boiling over. You should pray that I don't lose control, and if my wife or grandson were to get hurt, nowhere on this earth could you hide. I'm telling you straight, I'm not playing any more, you've violated the safety of my family, If you say another word to me, I'll consider it a threat to my household. Do you hear me boy, don't address me again.
@@Delilah513 You can move on without already getting married with kids by 2009. Sheesh. I still haven't even gotten a new relationship since my last messy breakup in 2017, nor have I pursued one.
I once saw a case of a young woman who went out on a date and surveillance cameras see her out with her date and detectives then track them going into a hotel but she never comes out They continue to check the hotel cameras hours later and nothing. But what they do see is a man coming out with a suit case and it looked as if he was struggling to pull it They looked into it and sure enough he had murdered the young lady and dismembered her body and put her in the suit case I can’t stop to think if with the Brian Shaffer case if they continued to look at surveillance videos hours or even days after
Got married 3 years after her boyfrined vanished, that's way moving on, and she's also way over it like she said "it feels like it happened to someone else" so I guess she realy believes that he ran off
Something happened to him at the construction site, imo..I think he probably got stuck there for 3 or 4 days and died of dehydration. He had too much going on to just run off like that and he had no enemies to kill him..He was also in a good part of town where people don't just get murdered over a dollar or two. It was an accident..had to be.
This kind of reminds me of the Craig Frear missing person case in New York State. Very haunting, because the victim seems to have a stable, happy life, and then boom: - they have vanished.
I wonder if Brian came back and explained to her what happened. Would she be able to forgive him? I'm happy that she was able to move on. Although someone like me would neve really be able to move on from something like this.
This is too heartbreaking. Chances are Brian isn’t alive and probably fell into a river and drowned or entered into an elevator that leads to a hazardous construction site by mistake and it killed him because he was drunk. I hope I’m wrong, but that could be the reason why he was never seen on camera leaving the bar. Usually when someone is missing this long chances aren’t very good in finding them alive...but miracles do happen you know...hopefully and hopefully is the main word here that he’s still out there alive somewhere just waiting to be found.
Sucha stupid theory. He just "fell into the river". Not a chance. First off the Scioto is a hike from the Tuna. Second the river has literally been drained few years back. I think they were involved in drugs. In fact I k ow they were. Im from columbus and was apart of that whole scene back then.
@@SpinningbacKFisT she doesn't seem to be the type. And they were boyfriend and girlfriend. Usually, they would have something like that in common. He seemed like a good guy... First time I've heard of the "drugs" thing.
@@musicisgoodforthesoul999 I assure you Clint and Brian were involved in cocaine. I can say 100% for a time Clint was selling it. Don't really care what you've heard before. I knoW before soo...
@@musicisgoodforthesoul999 it really is. I remember when it happened. I was living near campus at the time. I was like 19. The family has been plagued with tragedy.
I watched some paranormal guy on RU-vid"communicating" with the dead on some device. The man asked where Brian is..The spirit answered.."Seattle"...The band Brian went back to talk to comes from Seattle...lol.
NOSSA ESSE CARA PARECE SER O BRIAN! SÓ QUE AGORA ELE ESTÁ MAIS FORTE, SERÁ QUE ELES PLANEJARAM TUDO ISSO, E ESTAO JUNTOS PORQUE BRIAN NAO QUIS MAIS SER IDENTIFICADO? NEM PELOS PROPRIOS FAMILIARES? SERÁ QUE É ELE? FOI A UNICA MANEIRA QUE ELE CONSEGUIU RECOMEÇAR E SE LIVRAR DO PASSADO RUIM?
On the podcast released last week with the title ‘Brian Schaffer Interview ////// 770’ the former lead detective said that he asked Brian’s ex-girlfriend Shelly if Brian was gay/bisexual - she said that Brian had experimented with men. The detective then went on to say that another person said ‘yeah, that happened’. The host of the podcast then stated that ‘there was speculation that he was gay - would that be enough of a reason to run away and start a new life?’. The detective replied ‘yeah, yeah and that was discussed with the unit and a couple of our superiors who were over at the (FBI) at the time, and that was discussed and maybe he had run off at the time and maybe he had run off and started a new life and if you don’t use your name, social security number and date of birth, you could do that. It’s not impossible but it’s not the easiest thing to do either’. Later in the podcast, the host said that he heard Clint and Brian had more than a friendship relationship and said he questions what Clint was hiding. He said he wonders if at some point their friendship had become romantic - the detective’s response? ‘It could have been, yep. Ummm…we interviewed some roommates of Clint’s…and Clint and Brian roommated for a bit and then Brian moved out and them umm we interviewed the two roommates Clint had after that and their opinion, they made statements to us that they felt they (Brian and Clint) were a little too touchy-feely, more than what guys normally would do’. The host asks ‘do you think that’s why Clint doesn’t want to talk, he doesn’t want that out?’ The detective replied ‘it could be, you know that he doesn’t want that to get out. That was one of the things we did discuss in the unit, you know, one of the possibilities here. So yeah, that’s one of the questions that we’d like to find out.’
