Wassup Ave, great video as always.... time to go next level. Next time sample your kick and snare into the MPC 3K... and when you do make sure to drive the inputs, the secret MPC 90's sauce was that you can distort into the 3K in a pleasant way. Sample at least your kick and snares several times at different input levels and hit those input converters hard. Then make beats on it and use those damn filters too... the 3K's will fatten up kick and snare like crazy and fast for that classic Dre, Timbo, and Outkast sound. Also get the modern card kits to replace that old azz 3.5 floppy, lol. FWIW Akai started using wav files in the MPC 2000 XL forward. My 4000 would convert internal SND file to wav via USB export. Hit me up via email to catch up, and as always stay blessed.
Your obviously trying to trigger or mock EA again Ave, saying converters got nothing to do with sound and then putting a Dre vinyl above the 3000. You know EA and Dre have been in the same room many times and produce for some of the most successful Rappers ever right?
@@AveMcree I'm waiting impatiently for this. I'm pro 3000 so this is of special interest to me. Record the sounds in via the audio inputs hot and at normal levels so we can hear the difference please, and record and compare the X SE the same way. If possible connect up two synths via MIDI and use the internal sequencer to control the synths and sync to the beat. Record audio from the MPC via the eight outputs and the synths outputs into your DAW then mix in the DAW.
my first ever experience on a drum machine was a 3000. the guy that taught david banner how to use a 3000 is a family friend and in my dads old band and he let me use it to play around on. its a great experience, if for nothing else, exposing yourself to different levels of production.
Load sounds?!? We sampled everything back in the day from records vhs dvd cd and Nintendo or anything that had an output... And what about the midi functions? It took me forever to figure out midi don't send audio. 😂 Really though I'm just giving you a hard time. This is a cool video 🔥
@CVLT.45 But what if the sounds loaded on a disk has already been ran through analog gear & a Tape Machine. I still have to sample it for it to sound good? That makes no sense
Sampling through the input is literally how to utilise the analog to digital converters. You would still get some colour on the way out in the digital to analog process. It's a pretty straight forward concept. Call it horse shit or whatever, but it is a sampler at the end of the day.
The real magic of the MPC-3000 is when you record your samples directly into the MPC-3000 from your source, converting samples from another file is not doing any service to you. You don't got a turntable and a DJ mixer or a CD player, or a cassette deck?
Question...If you sample something, do you want the sample to sound beefed up right after its sampled, or do you want the sample to sound exactly like you heard it from the record? I would want it exactly like I heard it from the record & then I can tweak the sample how I want it myself. The 3000 is fire, but it's old technology. You can easily make your drums hit in these modern MPCs. You don't have to sample the drums to make them sound good. You can easily make a thin kick or snare drum hit hard & beefed up in the modern MPCs
@@DaMixWizard Let me answer your question by explaining that I own several hardware samplers. Some are modern like my MPC X/MPC Live II and Isla Instruments S2400/Rossum SP-1200, and some are vintage like my ASR-10, ASR-X Pro, Akai S900, and Emu SP-1200. Why do I own so many samplers, because I want the original and unique sound of these samplers. None of these samplers with the exception of the MPC X and MPC Live II sound alike. Sampling in an MPC-3000 will always be superior to sampling in an MPC X and the better you get the original sampling source the better the end processing is. When I sample to my MPC X, I use my modified Behhringer T-Series rack, Handsome Audio Zulu which is a passive analog tape emulator which uses four magnetic tape heads, and my DJ mixer which is attached to my turntable so that I can get that beefed up warmth from the get go and then I do further processing with my SSL XL-9000 K-Series console emulation and whatever other emulations I want in the tracking process.
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@@river718do you need a DJ mixer to sample direct into the 3000
A DJ mixer (which is basically a preamp with benefits) or a phono amp, or a preamp, or in some cases a stereo reciever with aux outs , line outs, or tape outs would be prefered.
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@@river718 so you cannot direct sample from a radio with 1/4 adapter to RCA cable that's 1.5 mm?
So the converters has “nothing” to do with the sound quality? It’s coming from the floppy disk? I’ve heard it all, now i see what Ea-ski talking about when he says guys out here giving out bad information
The first question is...are you going to sample your drums each time you make a beat? 2nd question is...are you going to export your tracks through the 8 outputs? That's where they say the sound quality comes at. If someone give you sounds on a Floppy, you have to load them in. The MPC3000 doesn't read WAV. & MP3 files. It has to be a SND. file. So if u have 500gb of fire WAV. files, you can't load them in the MPC3000, you have to turn them into SND. files. But u can load WAV files in the modern MPCs
The 3000 was such a beast for synchronizing keyboards and tape machines. keeping everything in midi till the end to keep the final quality at the highest. great way to cheat more tracks in the 24 track days
That’s right Rev! The fame of the 3000 came from how it could control the entire studio or stage. It was a midi beast . (SMPTE time code for film and tape machines too) Then after ridiculous hit records the sound became the thing.
One of my all time favourite joints I still have my MPC 3000LE 006. Ave sample them drums into the MPC instead of loading stuff you have a whole different appreciation for the 3000 . I know the new joints function are are a lot better but they aint touching the sound of the 3000 .
The reason why the 60 and the 3000 swing more is because you are editing a numerical value rather than a wave form… In a wave form, you cut the sound right up to the start of the loud sounds, but any numerical value it’s harder to necessarily decipher all the time, so that’s why sometimes there’s a little bit of a swing the hat may be a little bit delayed, or this near may be slightly delayed, and together that causes the swing of the entire track
The 44 to 22 thing is also what happens when you sample at double speed then drop it back, or resample at double speed in a daw (repitch mode) for anyone that wants that immediate lofi sound
best results are when sampling directly through audio input slightly hotter to compress the signal in a crunchy way instead of loading snd files without recording.
That's a great video! It's amazing to see how a modern-day producer can pick up a 30-year-old MPC, feel completely at home, and start cooking up cool beat right away. The MPC workflow has really stood the test of time. Can’t wait for comparison to modern MPC video!
The MPC2000 has track mutes and can read WAV files on the later OS versions. The MPC2000XL was much more adept at reading .WAV files as the file system on that machine switched to FAT16.
Hey don’t sleep on that 3000!!!!!! Yes you can do way more with what’s out now but having all of those midi channels, punch and that MPc swing was a mother in the early 90’s! I was bless by a old drug dealer who had it in his closet and told me to come and get it! Had it for 3 months and then found out how to get 16 different sounds out of my Roland XP 50, I literally start making records and going into the studio with artist! I was recording at out in VA Beach at Mastersounds, watching Chad, Pharrell skateboarding in the circle! Mpc 3000 changed my life!!!!
MPC3000, SND files and floppy disks! You really transported me back like 25+ years there bro. I grew up early MIDI, LINN Drum, MPC60, etc., days. I would go on to own a used MPC60 and bought the 3000XL and 200XL. The 3000XL, which I bought on tour in Japan, was probably my favorite. Maxed it out with memory, i/o's and a Zip drive expansion. Today, I'm pretty much ITB. I'll use the MPC software and MPD controller, for a "close enough" MPC experience and I need to switch things up a bit. Anyway, you'll do just fine with you previous MPC knowledge to learn the 3000. You already know it. Just grab the manual for the details. Have fun bro!
Great video Ave. I enjoyed it. Good analysis too. The same way you just picked up the 3000, pressed a few buttons to see what was what, and then you could use it, was how it was for me when I got mine. I was up and running without having to read a manual or look for tutorials. For me it's a joy to work with. I'm looking forward to more videos from you with the 3000. Show us the scientific analysis of the sound comparison with the X SE and the 3000. Keep up the good work
The MPC 3000 does have track mutes. It's right there on the bottom of the screen. You chose to put your kick, snare, and hi hat on the same track, and the horns on a different track. So, you can only mute the kick, snare, and hi hat together, and the horns on it's own. You would have been better off giving everything it's own track so that you can mute them individually.
But that's the good thing about today's modern MPCs. You can put all your drums on one track and still mute each sound. And you can also explode all your sounds on that 1 track onto their on tracks. Them vintage MPCs can't do that
@@DaMixWizard Yes you believe you can do that on modern MPCs but loading and exploding sounds compared to recording samples is what makes the vintage MPCs have their own sound and maybe why the sound quality of the new MPCs might not be as warm
the track mutes are on the last OS by LINN and the aftermarket one that came out 10 yrs ago. For best result get a $200 mixer and use the 8 outs I usually have a premade program with outputs already assigned by what is on the pad so A139 and 13 is out 1 and kiks 26 10 14 snares on 2 B group was samples chopped with one character c a nother assorted sounds. It was a preprocess for me that loaded up everytime I started the machine. The 2k and 4 had some more conviences built in but you had to buy effects 8nouts seperate plus the 2 k just had 2in and 2out and if you were using a daw that was just 1 in and out. Either way Im just as quick on old MPCs as new Maschines I have probably quicker because of the Focus.
Nice. Just some corrections: SND files in a MPC 3000 is the same 16 bit/44.1 like subsequent MPCs. MPC 3000 and 2000 do have track mutes. If you want to mute a particular sound in a track, you need to assign each sound to its own track. Otherwise, multiple sounds on a track will mute multiple sounds only. Also, MPC 2000 is the first MPC to write and read .wav files. The eldest factory Akai 1.0 OS to the latest factory Akai 3.72 OS allow you to load .wav files. However, only factory Akai 3.72 OS will allow you to save as .wav file. 3.72 OS came out in 1999 and is the latest OS for MPC 2000
@@Xsynth well you can't say "it not the converters" as a fact what is actually an opinion. He should say "I think it is not the converters because I have a theory about the Wav convertor. But then before you publish your theory you should do so research first. As formal journalist and newspaper owner these are golden rules that must be followed.
@@gwsound Exactly. This is the point E-A-Ski was trying to convey. People having platforms and spreading misinformation and half truths. Misguiding thousands of people eager to learn. Shameful behavior.
I've never heard a MPC 3000 in person, but I've heard beats on songs, that were mixed and mastered, and I heard people use them on RU-vid. I do notice on comparison videos, that the 3000 has more bottom end, than other MPC's, but I feel like the hype, is bigger than the sound. I get that the new MPC's, are basically a DAW, but there's a lot of ways to make the new MPC's sound better than a 3000. For example, you can always get a class compliant interface, or converter, that you can use to bypass the MPC converters. There's also gear like the Analog Heat, and all kinds of premium pedals. On top of that, a lot of these old school guys complaining, may have been hit makers back in the day, but when I hear the music they make, it's cool, but there's kids using FL studio, that could chew them easily, in a battle. I'm not going to name names, because I know it's somehow blasphemous, to say anything negative, about a dude that made hits in the 90's, but the loudest dude, has a bunch of meat jackers stroking him, but every beat I hear him make, is mid. So he probably needs all of the best sounding gear he can get, just to make a beat standout. If he made the same beats on FL, he wouldn't have any motion.
Am I sure I want these problems? I am sure I don't. But. thank you for putting your money where your mouth is and giving the 3000 an honest shake and not rely on hearsay to form opinions.
I would be so mad if I was someone impressionable who just got into using hardware and took the advice of someone else telling me “convert” .wav files into .snd files via a separate device just to get sounds in the machine. It’s not that complicated. Just sample from your interface into the machine. And it sounds better. Mind blowing.
I got a SCSI Hard drive (old apple drive) and the load time is not an issue- also the floppy drive thumb drive thing is good too - just make sure you ground your drive or you’ll get a noise in your headset
This was great bro. Beat was NiCE and the fact you got it down fundamentally was exciting for me. And fun to watch you not trying to step on anyone’s toes 😂 thanks bro and can’t wait for that comparison video
I used to be very efficient on the 3000, but I do not miss dealing with the 3.5” disk in the early days. A decent sized project would sometimes have to be saved across 3 or 4 disk, and it was a slow process.
I had a su700 that was the same. Depending on the beat I would need anywhere from 2 to 6 disks. Markers and rubber bands were essentials because if you get disks mixed up you’ll catch fits
Love the content my brother! But echoing everyone else's comments are definitely sample into the machine but looking forward to you're comparison videos. My question is knowing you have a technically better mpc and with all the converter convos would you just sell the 3000 or keep it as a collectors piece?
That’s the first MPC I learned yeah the timing would always throw me off just takes some practice but as far as the sound goes I think it’s when sampling directly into it but yeah I regret getting rid of my 3000
Ave bout to start World War Converter Wars 3 😅😅😅 Hopefully that Roger Linn interview will drop to help settle the MPC Wars 😂🎉 Looking forward to your comparison video 😊
dude that 22 sample rate thing was hell of a technique to use... it really gave whole another vibe to my sounds even almost all of akai rack samplers have this option in the machine itself to change the sample rate within the the machine so it really is a genuine technique of akai sounds if you have some relation to mpc people just share it to them to put it on sample edit where you normalize and change bit rate and things, and it's really an easy digital programing. I still can do it from my pc but it would be so great if I had it on my mpc one without any other thing... this really could be that vintage wizardry people really talk for years and if it's not it still is an absolute great thing to have
what are talkin bout bruh? of course it has track mutes ! thats one of the great features about it! where you think all the other MPC's get it from ? its in the soft key command section
Bravo, very informative. I just installed a new pad sensor on my 40000 plus. I wanted it operational and also to compliment my MPC X. At the end of the day, it's just another mindset. Thanks for sharing. Definitely over priced. I bought the 4k for about $1000 ten years ago. Just like any classic soon as you unload the price soars.
Not a whole lot of interest in Mpc hardware but still here and still loved the video. Entertaining and nicely done, was a pleasure to sit back and enjoy this one. For those of us that can just barely remember those disks laying around it is eye opening to what we got that we complain of.
*looks at her K5000S with its floppy drive, and nods sagely* Floppies sound the best. lol thanks for sharing! A stereo 44.1kHz file should be 22.5kHz, iirc. That hihat deliciously crispy either way. Nice beat! Once upon a time I almost bought an MPC 5000 I saw at Guitar Center...
Coming from the MPC2000 background, great video!!! I almost forgot how minimalist that screen was as I dropped the MPC to move on with Reason, FL and other DAWs back in the early 2000’s. I love the process of making beats on those machines, but it is such a pain in the ass when it’s time to save, transferring everything to the cpu to edit and record vocal. I’m jealous of your 3000 big time, but for myself it would be a luxury and I would need a lot of extra time to go back to those classic MPCs
Great video DJ Ave! Ahh, for me, I appreciate the workflow of the newer MPCs. Though I love the music that was produced on older MPCs, I don't desire to go backwards when so much is at hand to create a similar sound. Plus, connectivity options abound now.
I totally agree. If I had a 3000 I would midi it to my mpc x so to get the sound of the 3k but trigger and sequence in the X. Workflow and classic sound combo for the win
Track Mutes was implemented with the MPC 2000 Classic which was the next MPC after the 3000. Much respect for giving the MPC 3000 a go. If you have any questions on the 3000 I most likely can help you out. Peace!
I appreciate the video. A lot of us was looking forward to this. You got me curious about floppy disk theory. You’re the first person I heard notice that. The only way to get proof on that is to manually convert the sounds from 44.1kHz to 22kHz 16bit (without the MPC 3000 being involved) and test it out on the newer MPCs as wav files
Oh! The joy of Midi Time Code and SMPTE, and taking hours to track your song, especially if your drums and samples are in Stereo 😑 Don't miss that workflow, AT ALL. For its time, it was the best in the industry tho 🔥
Instead of paying the asking price for a 3k I would rather spend the same money for external (8)500 series 1073 or API style pres and run the outputs and sample in thru those into the X and get that sound then still be able to use those mic pres on other duties. To me that the value. Great video by the way
Dope! Crazy that you got the Limited Edition as well. I love the look and sound of the 3k, but the way you chop samples seems daunting. Almost like the eps but worse.
It's chopping by numbers. You use your ears instead of your eyes and a bit of intelligence too. A short sound set record to 0.5 and record your kick, snare, hihat, 1.0 for longer sounding drums and count the seconds of the loops you want to sample and set your record time with say 1.0 to that and record it. Once you have your sounds in you shave them down by numbers using your ears and the scroll wheel.
@@AveMcreeTruth hurts I get it. You literally made this video because E-A Ski is the story of the music industry right now. You will do anything for views. Also stop being passive aggressive and just be a man and say his name. We all know who you are talking about. This video is a full representation of a little boy.
Damn even just importing the sounds sound good. Yeah the older mpcs u might think ur pad sensors are broke but they are just way more sensitive to the touch than the new gen mpcs. Especially on full level! So try not to double trigger u can actually double tap way easier so be more precise with your hits.
I have had every Mpc from Akai I made a living on drum programming been in the game for 30 years lol I had that one you were working on. See you can hear the sound is thick trust lol get a Zip drive from Forat you know in the valley
Bruce Forat or GhostinMPC are two that I know of that deal specifically with the older MPCs. Your other options are to get the parts from MPC Stuff and DIY or find a local tech that can put the parts in for you.
You should be able to find replacement LCD/LED screens on eBay or just the back light by itself. A little pricey depending on which way you go but it’s easy to do it yourself in all honesty and save yourself some money.
Thank you for the video. I feel much better about my recent purchase of an MPC 1000. It needs a few of the buttons replaced but just the short time spent testing it and menu diving, Yea this is going to be rewarding. The people I got it from claimed "it does not work, we get no sound" was the initial challenge and when I got that first Kick sound that was already in it......Boy oh Boy. I want to thank you again for introducing me to the MPC eco system with MPC Beats when it was released because I was never able to take the dive at the price point of entry (prior to MPC Beats).
Alot of inconsistencies in this video and misinformation I would just cut your losses on this one and delete it bro. This is critique by the way and not a diss or in any way intended to be disrespectful. Just an opinion from the big wide world 🌎
