Stems doesn't work the way you think. Stems has been invented decades ago. Its basically the father of karaoke. The only enemy of karaoke and stems is when the sampled song is a song that's heavily processed with choruses or other similar processors. That's why newer songs bleed. Stems works perfect with older songs that's not heavily processed like today's music. It has NOTHING to do with the MPC in standalone vs controller mode. Its the type of song you initial sample which is the issue. Sample a soul track from the 60's or 70's and you will see stems works blindblowingly perfect. But go ahead and sample some kinda newer song with all types of processors in it or autotune and you will see that the stem will bleed into other portions of the stem. Just a FYI. I was doing this years ago, it was a little secret of mine. I used to run samples through Cubase's Karaoke plugin and then sample in my MPC 2000. People was always asking me how i took the vocals out of my sample. They were scratching their heads for years how i was doing it. Now 20 years later now they know. 😂
A lot of people are about to use some muddy reverb filled records and complain the quality of the stems are trash … it’s not the stems fam it’s the record
@shaquilleruss1668 Naw bro, the ram is soldered on to the motherboard. The only way to do it is to have a tech soldier in a new larger memory ram. But it has never been done so far and I don't know if it would mess with the firmware. Also there are many motherboards that can only do a certain size ram no matter how large it is, it will only read what the motherboard can handle. I think that's the case due to the fact that it's soldered in. So if it's a 2 gig max motherboard, even if you solder in a 1 TB chip, the board will only read 2 gigs because that's all it's made to handle. A soldered in ram is a hint that the motherboard cannot handle more than 2 gigs and will stay that way no matter what size ram you may wanna solder in.
Maybe in the next generation of Akai MPCs, Akai may switch away from the Rockchip RK3288 quad-core to using the Rockchip RK3588 octa-core CPU instead, being that is a 64-bit architecture we could at least have 32GiB easily. Plus, more horsepower to support better effects, more polyphony, plugins and features, simultaneously.
I've noticed that any sample that's buried in reverb is difficult for Stem Separation, and rightfully so. However, Akai has done a great job with such difficult samples. Nice video. Stay Blessed 🙌
I think its dope that they came out with this. Especially for stand alone units. I have found websites that can seperate stems but if you arent near a computer, or dont want to have to save the file, run it through the website, then resample, etc. its perfect. It definitely would come in handy Rocking an MPC Live on battery power in the middle of nowhere... Like I do..... Sometimes..... A lot..... 😂
Definitely depends on the sample you’re working with! I’ve tried multiple samples today and some came out great while others were good enough to decent. But even the ones that didn’t stem out to great I can work with especially with some effects
Bolo. The splice samples are way too clean for this to be the ultimate test. Now pick out a vinyl record with multiple part s. Chop a section and show us how that works. 🙏🏼
@@BoloDaProducer Ahh . Gotchu. If you try vinyl on your own pls let us know how the stem sounds. I use Neuralmix 2.0 which is pretty good & RX11 has stem sep. Thx 🤟🏼 @BoloDaProducer
I bet if you had a clean sample with clearly defined musical parts, the stem separation would've been a lot better, next time try with a clean sample with better separation and definition of parts. The vocals came out pretty clean and the melody guitar and keys were pretty clean also. Samples with a lot of reverberation usually don't work very well, no matter what program you use for stem separation, and also the stereo image is very important when it comes to stem separation the more the define the stereo image the better the separation no matter what separation program you use.
I'm more or a fl user but I just purchased the mpc one+.. I definitely will be downloading the stem separation for the mpc as soon as I home..thx for the update bolo..💪🏾
i can live with making stems on the mac. I would rather love to see the BLEASS Arpeggiator for the MPC or something as good. And more Midi Mangling tools which let you make variations of midi files. What also would be nice is the groove extractor from ableton. So i could throw in audio of some famous drummer for example, they get analyzed and i can then use that groove for my beats. Oh: and i would LOVE to see the STOLPERBEATS J DILLA Eurorack Module ported to the MPC ! (and btw stems for the mac is really good. As is Delay Pro and Flavor Pro!)
Having the stems in standalone is cool. I'm glad it is finally available. However, why is it so freaking hard to find a new MPC Key 37 in stock at my local Guitar Center? In ATL? Or Fayetteville? I want to get one, but I also want to trade in some stuff, including my MPC One, to make it easier on the wallet. That thing has been out for what, 5 months now? And it is still not in stock? You have to have them order one from either another store location or their warehouse. This is CRAZY!!!! Oh, and the worst part is, Guitar Center have used MPC Key 37 units that cost as much or more than a new one in some other store locations!!! That's wild!!! Did Akai stop production of these for some reason? Or are they just selling so fast that Akai can't produce enough of them to keep up with demand? I'll worry about stems once I get my MPC Key 37! I don't want to order one of these online and have to deal with shipping (porch pirates do exist!) when I should be able to just walk into a store and buy one locally. Then again, maybe I should just wait. I'm not saying this is gonna happen, but I would not be surprised if Akai discontinue this version re-release the MPC Key 37 as an mkII model in an all-black or all-beige color scheme with 4 GB of RAM with all the plugins of the MPC Key 61 as standard and bump the price up to $1299.
I'm first a NI/Komplete user. Serrato in NI and stem separation with Akai software and MPC One. I might forget to eat cause I use them both along with instruments. Someone give me a call and remind me to eat and sleep. Thanks in advance.
Make sure you use lossless as source, else the artifacts are going to be magnified. Not sure if the RAM or CPU would be the bottleneck. If RAM, then use FLAC/ALAC. If CPU, then use WAV.
Now I have to decide which of my MPCs to install it on because you can buy plug-ins and multiple pieces of hardware from Akai, but you are limited to installing your plugins on gear that you've paid for. This is how Akai takes care of their loyalist. I'm done spending money on Akai gear until they fix this
Can you do a tutorial on how to install stems for standalone mpc one? not as a controller can't find anything on the net to show just a straightforward install.
How wrong was I? I was convinced this wasnt possible because my iMac takes about a minute to process the stems and it has 16 gb of ram. Im downloading this in the morning, cant wait to see how my mpcs handle this
I have an Akai Force and a Denon DJ Prime 4+..... So basically iNMusic is telling me 'take it with no vaseline and make sure to grip the balls' when I ask what's going on with Stems for products I own.
Speaking of the MPC software how do y’all like using it for those who use it? I’ve never used it since I bought my X last year. I have Studio One but I been thinking about using the MPC software and see what’s up. I like using audio tracks and I know the software allows me to use way more than 8 if the need arises.
i only like it because you can use the keyboard and mouse, i hate typing on mpc for files etc . i can use mouse to grab a whole section and shift over real fast . q links and +- do everything the knob can do
They didn't do it. Yeah, sure, you can now get separations on standalone, but unusable poor quality ones. I had my doubts it would be good on standalone and now they are validated. Back to the drawing board Akai. I give these Akai stem separations a 2.5 out of 10 and that is being generous.
I tried MPC the “Newest MPCs “ and I don’t really get it to slow and the technology is to advanced now days to not be as fast the Maschine where I can drag drop in a file put it in a Daw and beats done ✅
Hope they can be able to tweak and update the algorithm in the future, because the standalone stem separation, as it is right now, sounds and performs pretty weakly. But people gotta understand that the processing power of these MPC's just doesn't compare to that of your Mac or other PC's. I don't know if you can update an algorithm to deal with slower processing speeds to get a better quality of function and sound...anybody got an educated opinion on that? Would love to hear it from the community. Can it be done? If it can, I'm sure the team at AKAI will figure it out. But for now, it just doesn't compare to the functionality and sound of the software version as far as I can hear. Comments...
Still algorithms can be improved and implementations optimized. Thus it is definitely possible to improve it in the future on current hardware. But hard to tell to which degree.
My guy BOOOOOLOOOOOO PLZ tell where you getting these cool samples on splice from you got a modded splice account I can never find anything thing good on mines plz tell me the hack bro 😂😂😂 thanks & keep up the good job your definitely an inspiration to us all bro
Hey Boloooooo. I am a multi-instrumental improvisation musician. Got a whole room of toys. Anyways I own both the Keys 61 and the Akai force. Do you think it’s coming to the force?
@1:10 - I would imagine that once the process is over, it gives back your RAM, and you’re left w/ just samples. you could do your stems first, then get into building the track. Sounds like soft-boiled ass, tho. 😂 I just do my stems in Serato Studio, and export to the Push 3, which also kicks Akai’s ass RE: timestretch / warp.
Yo B it is trash the algorithm is terrible compared to the desktop the wave files are totally different and I have plenty of ram in my live 2 plus an internal SSD with nothing in it they need to work on this big time
@@BoloDaProducer I would love to see a review on it. I seen the company explain it but I believe watching you show us how to use it will be awesome. I watch a lot of your videos and you’ve taught me everything I know about the mpc, I also want to thank you for all the advice and valuable information you spread on your channel !
