늘 생각하지만 정연 목소리는 애교롭지 않을뿐 아주 성숙하고 안정적이며 성량도 풍부함.... 일단 태도부터가 너무 예쁨. 정연 나연 지효 쯔위 이 네명은 항상 열심히인 태도가 너무 좋다... 쯔위는 잘하는 보컬은 아닌데 배운거 정석대로하려고 노력하는 느낌 물씬 남 정말로 예쁨.
ㅇㅈㅇㅈㅇㅈ본인 실력이 부족한 걸 알아도 자기 파트만큼은 어떻게든 열심히 부르려고 하는 쯔위 모습이 좋으니 응원하게 됨 심지어 모모도 못 부르고 욕까지 먹지만 어떻게든 부르려고 노력하잖아 어떻게 다른 맴버는 못 부른다고 아예 안부르기까지 하고 인사 및 딴짓만 하고 그러니 비난을 받을 수 밖에
5:26 보면 그래도 어떻게든 음은 올라감 듣기좋은 소린 아니지만 안빼고 부르긴하잖슴 열심히는 하는데 실력이 안따라주는건지 뭔지 일단 창법부터 뜯어고치면 좀 괜찮아질거같은데 밑에보면 데뷔 어케했냐는 사람들 있는데 다 아는것처럼 춤은 탑이고 식스틴때 보면 이렇게 심각한 노래실력은 아니였음 .. 그래서 뽑힐수있던거고 모모보단 자기파트도 빼고 안부르는 다현 채영이 더 문제같은데
5:26 모모 진짜 놀랐다... 생각해보면 모모가 라이브로 제일 까였던 이유는 '노래를 불렀는데 못 불러서 실력이 드러남'이었지 다현 같은 멤버처럼 아예 안 불러서 실력조차 알 수 없었던 게 아님... 애초에 모모랑 다현이 까이는 이유가 다름 모모는 불렀는데 못 불러서 다현은 트로피랑 공개 연애 중이어서 부를 여유가 없어서 지 솔직히 트와이스 랩 라인 멤버들 실력 잘 모르겠는 게 ㅠㅠ 다현이는 노래가 안 돼서 랩으로 온 것 같은데 랩을 잘하는 갓도 아님 채영이는 랩 그래 다현이만큼 못하는 건 아닌데 트와이스랑 색깔이 안 맞고 계속 안 어울리는 랩만 하다 보니까 실력이 퇴화되는 듯싶다 이때 모모 표정 진짜 예쁘다 스타일링도 예쁘고 원스는 아닌데 볼 때마다 참 안타까운 그룹임 모모야 그래도 계속 부르려고 하는 네 노력이 참 보기 좋아 다음 컴백 때는 이 영상 라이브처럼 웃으면서 노래 부르는 모습 보고 싶어
In summarization of the comment section International fans: *talks about ships and the group* Korean peps: *talks about dahyun and chaeyoung not trying to sing or doing their part, wants other member to have more vocal training, praises Momo Tzuyu and Jeongyeong for atleast doing their parts*
did the replies here even read the comment? or did yall even try google translate at least. the Korean comments at least talk about their singing n even appreciate those who tried. while yall always just blindly trashing knetz for everything.
@@maaaaaaandy6625 jihyo was not as consistent as jeongyeon in encores. She great in concerts, but in encores Jeongyeon really was the most consistently stable, clear, & pitch accurate compared
@@AM-ll4yr that’s cause jihyo gets the harder vocals to sing, jeongyeons lines is only in her comfort zone (mostly) a lot of jihyos notes are a lil harder to sing.. also check out their latest encore. I’m a jeongyeon bias but i admit jihyo is better in encores and concerts
@@maaaaaaandy6625Jihyo got harder parts because they actually give her those lines, if you're really a Jeongyeon bias as you claimed you would know. just because she doesn't get the lines doesn't automatically mean she's not capable of it. If Jihyo gets harder parts because she's more capable then she should have no problem being consistent with that capability. same with Nayeon. n if you're Jeongyeon bias you'd know how Jeongyeon got praised for nearly all of her stages in Sixteen for her singing. and yet in their debut she had just the first half of last chorus right at the place they would place the highnote adlibs from Jihyo/Nayeon. even other members who had been called out for having weak vocals are getting more lines than Jeongyeon. how do you know of Jeongyeon's ability to sing outside of her comfort zone or not when she hardly get a chance to sing? Jihyo n Nayeon get all the opportunities to improve their vocals with all the lines they got(even other member who received more criticism for her vocals like Tzuyu got more chances at vocally challenging parts n hence manage to improve) while Jeongyeon who received endless praises for her vocals during predebut is continuously stuck with tiny bit of lines that mostly don't show off her range. is that her fault? how does that prove her lack of ability when most of the members couldn't even sing their lines in most of the encore stages? cmon, let's not pretend to be Jeongyeon bias here.
@@hslpt3 because listening to jeongyeon, jihyo, and nayeon all in the recent concert it’s clear that jihyo and nayeon are more stable, jeongyeons voice was shaky at some parts in songs. there’s a reason why jihyo is the main vocalist don’t bash on other members. also why would i lie about being a jeongyeon bias? now ever since jihyos solo album came out i love both jihyo and jeongyeon, but you can’t deny that jihyos vocal power has gotten so much better whereas jeongyeons has stayed the same/gotten a little less stable (still love her) and her sixteen stages were great hence why everyone was a fan of her. stop acting like you know everything jus bc i didn’t mention it
Emily Becerra only if you could read 😔. I said Momo was stable here , didn’t really say she’s an amazing vocalist . We know she’s the main dancer. I don’t know why you’re so pressed? Maybe you have a degree on being pressed unnecessarily for no fucking reason
Irlanda Jauregui if only you could read 🤦🏻♀️. Read the last sentence again. I said they’re improving. When did I say Momo is an amazing vocalist? She’s the main dancer, sure. Jihyo Jeongyeon and Nayeon are on another level. 🤦🏻♀️ learn how to read first and then comment . Don’t make a fool out of yourself
After translating all the Korean comments I now understand why Korean fans are considered so toxic. It's sad that K-Pop idols have to endure so much hate everyday from toxic people. I not not generalizing all Korean people, I am giving my opinion based on the comments here.
@@Sammmm85 If I were Jihyo I would cry if I practiced for 10 yrs just to debut with guys like this. Dahyun pretends that the mic is broken everyday and doesn't sing. Most of the fans can sing it better. Members who can sing - Nayeon, Jeongyeon and Jihyo Members who can't sing but still try - Sana, Mina, Tzuyu, Momo, Chaeyoung How did you even debut - Dahyun At this point I hope that JYP realizes the seriousness of the situation and makes the kids practice properly. and many more....
@@Sammmm85 Coz they are stupid. If idols make the slightest mistakes then they directly come for their throats. They just want perfection everytime and don't want to understand the situation. This is also the reason why TWICE slays their live concerts but seem nervous at their encores bcoz at their concerts there are only true ONCE's who will support them even if they make slight mistakes so they are more free and confident there.
@@jovilynarana70 yeahhhhh filipino same hahaha hindi na daw kasya sa dorm nila hindi lang sa m count down pati iba pang award lalo na daesangs hahahaha
Jeongyeon did so well here hehe, just one cute little voice crack in the bridge :)) But listen to her singing the exact same line at 6:03 , she did it perfectly
@혜성특급 본인이 먼저 전소미스타성없다고 비하해놓고 내로남불오지고연~ 솔로라서 그룹보다 광고더 많이찍는게 당연하다고?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ트와는 개인활동안한다고? 쯔위는 혼자서 국민은행 광고찍고다녔는데?ㅋㅋ 미쓰에이 시절 수지나 블랙핑크제니는 그룹멤버인데 아이유를 제외한 국내대다수 솔로가수 이상으로 광고 수도 찍고다니는데 이건 어떻게 설명할래?ㅋㅋ
DS KK well, he isn’t gonna do that because Nayeon voice suits their concept the most. Explains why she gets a lot of lines. Plus, she was also apart of 3mix, he won’t let her go that easily..
@@user-vy8bq2ne4b 마이크가 안나오는걸 준거 어떡합니까 지금까지 라이브 많이 했는데 한번도 안봤나보네요 교차편집 영상도 라이브 목소리 쓴거니 찿아보세요 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xfpDKF00wN0.html 님이 말한 가만히 서서 하는 생라이브
Mnet plz provide them better mics. Except for Jihyo, Jeongyeon and Momo every mic had an issue. You can clearly see when Nayeon used Jeongyeon's mic the voice came out louder. Also in Mina's case the volume was almost non existent at the start but at the end when she sang her voice came out really well. Next time TWICE should bring their own mics to the stage.
이 사건의 시작: 1.모모 앵콜 논란 터짐. 2.다들 한 번보다가 트와이스 안티인 알고리즘이 계속 띄워줌. (다른 잘하는 걸그룹들 무대랑 번갈아 보여주는 건 뽀나쓰) 3.다현, 채영 태도 논란. 4.트와이스보다 트와이스 앵콜 무대가 더 유명해져서 이쪽으로 다들 몰려옴. 5.나연, 정연, 지효 빙의하고 급을 나눔.
모모: 콧소리의 여왕, 정말가끔씩 앵콜에서 ㅅㅌㅊ 사나: 의외로 열심히 부름, 눈치빠름 쯔위: 원래 노력파, 그 이유인지 가장 여론 좋음 미나: 질러보지만 성량, 자신감 부족으로 실패 채영: 랩은 또 느낌있게 함, 노래는 본인 음역에만 맞으면 또 잘함 정연: 목소리가 성숙, 소리가 풍부하고 꽉차있음. 가끔씩 3옥을 넘어가면 음이 잘 안올라가거나 째지는 경우가 있지만 보컬라인의 위엄을 보임 나연: 쌍두마차, 소녀시대라 하면 태연과 제시카라 할정도오 지효와 목소리 궁합이 좋음, 고음도 진성으로 잘지르고 댄스라이브도 출중, 그러나 가끔씩 고음 빼먹는 경우 있음 지효: 8명과는 벽이 다름. 기본적으로 소리가 트여있는 느낌이 나서 안에서 먹히는 느낌이 없고 시원하게 쭉쭉 뻗어나감. 춤추면서 라이브, 서서 라이브 둘다 ㅆㅅㅌㅊ 다현: 트로피 만지작거리는 독수리. 부연설명 필요없음
She always wanted to sing live, since people are judging them for lip-synching and vocals. She even cried during their concert and said that they are thankful for their vocal coach. Im just happy for their improvement. They are really craving for live singing. Just watch their bdz korean version. They even sang their with zero backtrack.
@@joelpolanco3147 nope when i said saver i really meant it. lately their encores got exposed, some of them wasn’t willing to sing as “dahyun, momo” some of them weren’t even able to hit the notes. Don’t get me wrong i know every twice song and i can’t stop listening them but they’re not the best vocalists out there
Please bring this confidence back :( i wanna see twiceu enjoy their encores especially Mina :( sad seeing them scared because of the haters. I wanna protect twice so much
JYP는 다현한테 뭐라고 할까..괜차나 소희도 노래못해도 뽑았어 원걸 잘만됐어 아이돌은 노래가 다가 아냐 내가 널 뽑은데는 이유가 있다라고 하려나 이유는 스타성인가... 진짜 진영박 아직까지 노래 춤 잘해서 너무 멋진데요 이런애들 뽑을거면 오디션프로에서 그런소리나 말든가 그런소리해댈거면 이런애들은 안뽑아야 했던거 아닙니까
@@user-qs1ds4ec5p it's okay at least she hit that note... It doesn't matter how she sounds like but for us she's still good and there's still more to improve.
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