MSATO Airsoft Tactical Applications Course

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MSATO Tactical Applications Course
held at The Citadel Airsoft in Worchester, MA
Feb. 13, 2010
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Certified Military and Law Enforcement Instructors.
Enhance Your Combat Efficiency In Close Encounter Environments.
Modern Training Concepts.
Take Airsoft to the Next Level!
MSATO Mobile Training Unit
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Course Description:
The TAC Course provides an elevated stress level of dynamic shooting on the move and force you to make rapid target discrimination.
The course will prepare you to effectively and comfortably assess, address and engage the variety of threats you will face.

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@chelloreis1 12 лет назад

Do not get tired of watching the videos you send. We need that here in Brazil. You're the best, congratulations for the initiative. Airsoft forever!!

@FortPolkAirsoft 14 лет назад

Props to you all, I run an Airsoft Basic and Advanced Operator Course as well. But my courses run a span of 2 days each with over 18 hours of instruction each. Keep up the fire gents........

@000terminator 13 лет назад

its good to see airsoft not only grow as a hobby or sport, but also as a form of training for law enforcement and military training. my uncle is campus pd down in san diego and they use airsoft as a cheap alternative to live rounds when training.

@jerredbrown3254 12 лет назад

Wow. I have done countless tactical training scenarios ranging from active shooter training, to high risk vehicle assaults. While you guys still had your many flaws just like everyone else, it was one of the highest quality videos i have seen on the web. Looks like the instructors got their stuff together (I am guessing either current or former LEOs or Military). All in all, I have to say well done. Keep working at it and you will go pretty far.

@RahRahRaharu 11 лет назад

Love this sper proffessional CQB school. I learned it in the Navy, but literally 3 people I have ever played airsoft with knew what they were doing when it came time to kick doors. Wish more people would train stuff like this. I think it would make airsoft more enjoyable for everyone, especially those cats who train harder than the others.

@FortPolkAirsoft 13 лет назад

And as for the guys who think training does not matter…..you are the master of your own destinies. When you get rolled up (And you will) by a team with better training and cohesion, hopefully you will take the subtle hint, do an azimuth check….and find out the true way to play the game. Regardless of the level of training or mistakes made…..improvements are measured by inches not miles. Lets give the instructors and students credit for trying to imporve themselves and others.

@MrNochas 10 лет назад

Very good, Hell of alot better than most videos on CQB training Ive seen, this was about the only one that was realistic and taught muzzle awareness, no one does that anymore, GREAT JOB!

@chelloreis1 12 лет назад

In my opinion you guys are simply the best in the world! Maybe one day we will find a world of airsoft to be shown new techniques and particularities of each team and each country?? I think we're moving towards that. Here in Brazil airsoft is growing a lot and fast. Send more videos of tactical actions. Thank you.

@SuperdestructveSheep 14 лет назад

Great job with this, looks like a really effective training session.

@tak40311 14 лет назад

Great to see my MILSIM brothers from GMR elevating the level of play. Nice job on the video too dandman! Tak TSOG

@TitsMcgee751 12 лет назад

I agree completely, and its a great way for Vets to deal with post traumatic stress issues.

@anon813 13 лет назад

gotta say, Im impressed. Besides a few flagging, spacing and corner digging issues, that was pretty darn good.

@TACADD 14 лет назад

Looks like a great course, I can definitely see why the Citadel is getting so popular.

@KanibaL1075 14 лет назад

@BloodLust41 I also am one of the instructors and former military. We don't use these "training" classes to get the people who attend them ready for combat. We use it to teach individuals and already established MilSim (Military Simulation) enthusiasts how to apply military tactics into airsoft. How they incorporate the "training" into their style of play is up to them. We developed MSATO with the sole purpose to increase the skill level of players/teams in airsoft.

@antikorper99 12 лет назад

These guys or the instructors are ex-military. Their CQB looks very tight. They move into the room in a very close group, so if the first guy doesn't tag you, the second guy is only a fraction of a second behind him, and he most definitely will. Plus, if you look at 0:40 you'll notice the strobe light on the weapon, which is made to disorient the target. So there's a few tricks that they have. I'm not military so I may be wrong, I just love learning about these things. :)

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

Cost is $40 per participant and included the field fee, some bbs, and a raffle ticket. The reason this course is different from a regular firearms training course, is that 1) it costs a whole lot less. and 2) these are real world tactics that have been applied to work effectively in airsoft; This is done in a fashion where one doesn't need to worry about actually being shot and dying such as in a real world gunfight.

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@dandman3039 these tend to work best at breach, or just before. It only takes a second off target zone for a distraction device to work, but once the bullets start flying all bets are off. Since the men are already in the door, the device might have limited use, as the opfor may already be firing on the team. Also notice the second in paused after the device hit the floor? I once watched Class II dealer/instructor toss a Surefire flashlight into a dark room on a breach. Worked a charm.

@TenaciousAces 11 лет назад

I think some can take it however they want. Some people think that it's some kind of crazy thing to train people not old enough to join up, so they will be ready to kill in the army. I think it's an exciting fast-paced sport with the intention to build teamwork and leadership within anyone who wants to play

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@dandman3039 no, I understand what you mean. I am talking specifically on semantics. A distraction device is an object like a flashbang, shotgun flare, etc used specifically at and during the breach. This is a training aid because it is utilized to aid during training and has no other use. It is possible however to use a distraction device as a training aid, similar to what is seen in MOUT courses with the "lite" bangers, etc. What was the object thrown anyways?

@jayjankovich 12 лет назад

You know... I'm a CQB instructor and yeah, I saw some things these kids were doing wrong- mostly horrible muzzle awareness and some decisions I would have made differently but I must say- for being so young and not being professionals at this, that was pretty decent. Good job kids.

@DaggerLead 12 лет назад

I have got to get my team into something like this, this is great

@crazyaznpower12 14 лет назад

Alot of gear, but something really important is to keep things LIGHT! The more weight, the less endurance you have and the more you are goiing to suck. Keep the important things and try to organize things so pouches dont interfere with your arm when you reach for your sidearm and also to make actions easy such as to pull a mag out into the dump puch and taking out a fresh mag.

@dandyairsoft 13 лет назад

@valkyrie321 you missed what I meant by that: the instructor was tossing in a distraction device when the students were entering the room to to try and build up a hesitation tolerance, like the pause they had when the device went in. in other words, the stack should not stop because of any loud noise or other movement, the focus should be space domination and the elimination of the threats in that room.

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

@dremelinskov this was already addressed. It was the training personnel tossing in a co2 powered distraction device to test the students' ability to react in stressful environments.

@alastairppcli 12 лет назад

as a reg force guy the drills actually look solid for the most part

@cobaltbluea2 14 лет назад

Guys/Gals all MSATO gunfighter and Tacapps threads clearly say that if you need gear to ask ahead of time so that you can borrow it. next class is TBA, they usually do one or two a year tops.

@TheBourbonWrench 13 лет назад

3:16 throws a grenade into a room two of his people are in already lol

@TheRx7sickness 12 лет назад

Different sizes of rooms is what depends on how many ppl are needed to clear a room. Smaller rooms only need 2 man breach, larger rooms might require a 3 or 4 man breach. All depends on the situation

@dandyairsoft 11 лет назад

I was just using a Trustfire 900lm 3-mode led flashlight on a ring mount to the RIS of the gun, and manually hitting the tailcap with my thumb. It is a good light for the price.

@ChristianWarrior76 11 лет назад

Good training!

@1PPPete 13 лет назад

It doesn´t have to be flashbang, but just only some grenade that makes really loud sound.And while it´s banging, they go in and clear the room.But most important is, that this is a COURSE for airsofters, who are NOT professionals.You can´t expect to do everything right right away like pros who train it for months and years.Only thing you can do is to critisize on the web.

@TheWolfslairairsoft 12 лет назад

Great muzzle discipline!

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@dandman3039 you should make a distinction between distraction device, and training aid. A typical distraction device is made specifically FOR the breaching team, in order for them to give the advantage during the breach. It is terminology. Semantics? Perhaps, but you must be clear with terminology so as there is no confusion in any OT scenario.

@austindock288 10 лет назад

where can i find these drills and techniques for my team to train with we are new to the team making process. it would be nice to know the drills and if anything else to know.

@NHFBL 12 лет назад

Love it!

@fallennate 11 лет назад

So many things that my team did differently like calling out windows you have to go in front of, different breaching technique tought by Marine CQB instructor (Donkey kick from standing behind the door frame so you're not caught in a fatal funnel when presented with shooters in the room), saw the entire stack get flashed a couple times but overall looked like a good course. I was definitely jealous of the area you got to use though.

@Artyom789 10 лет назад

i love these breach and clear moves @ivanovichrocks u got people that are way to serieus to realise that this is all done for fun ;) , because even when u join the military u wont have the same action in years,

@MsGnarkill12 12 лет назад

the instructors think they are the most badass thing to ever walk the earth

@JimexJimex 12 лет назад

For those who say it's a game for pussies: During one of the airsoft events in this location (Citadel Airsoft), I was lucky enough to have met 2 veterans from the 36th Engineer Brigade based in Fort Hood, TX. They were the most honorable and respectable men I've met. They NEVER said things like we the civilian players were pussies and should join the army. Everybody felt honored to play with them, and we had a great time. The level of maturity in these events is MUCH higher than you'd think.

@dandyairsoft 13 лет назад

@valkyrie321 they're called "Thunder B" grenades. The last scene in the video is a CTS trainer flashbang/ mini-bang

@ViperTacticalAirsoft 11 лет назад

This is a great video, Id like to get my team to some training like this. -Solo-

@USMartyrMachine119 14 лет назад

Im lovin this. You know if we ever get invaded it looks like alot of airsofters would have alot of other advantages than other civilians.

@supermido1995 13 лет назад

Omg awesome! Please come to Egypt xD

@TACADD 14 лет назад

I am going to have to get some more gear to compete here, looks like a blast. Plus, the Citadel is only 45 minutes from my house.

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@dandman3039 I'm curious. Did they teach slicing techniques? Techniques on room clearing with minimum exposure? A small example is that for a typical room, most of the room can be cleared by a single man not physically entering the room but by slicing. In this situation, a square example room, once cleared from the outside a member or two can commit while focusing on the remaining elements of the room not previously cleared, such as corners. It's not completely dynamic, but effective.

@davidhermidagrana 11 лет назад

the instructor is Ronin (A11) from Green Mountain Rangers (G.M.R.), he is the captain of the team and is a great player.

@Wardawg179 11 лет назад

It's in Worcester MA but now it's full of barriers and it kicks ass. But I still prefer their outdoor field in sutton MA. The outdoor place is called flashpoint

@jimmylindgren4908 9 лет назад

love the granade teamkill in the begining :D

@nyx9208 8 лет назад

Fucking silvers am I right

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

@modernairsoft its a combination of sound loops i mixed and tied together from garageband and soundsnap com

@chelloreis1 12 лет назад

shows an action tactic for us to DMR's. thank you.

@sockschappercat 12 лет назад

I believe Stirling airsoft is one of the few teams you can trust for training; they use ex-special forces instructors.

@Thiine56 11 лет назад

very nice !

@dirkaonetime 13 лет назад

and remember the ppl getting trained for the most part are not current mil, just regular airsoft players that enjoy there hobby and want to perform as well as possible on the field so we practice and train just like any other athletic activity

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

@Taskforceblack This course isn't for people looking to enlist, it's for people looking to help step up their game in airsoft. So of course they are going to make errors, they haven't put in the time to have the muscle memory to do the right thing every time yet. Room clearing is all bout repetition and adaption. This course was to try and bring up that level of preparedness as much as possible for each student, not make them ready for combat.

@bendevroy5822 11 лет назад

Gotta love Ronin. NO wonder why GMR is so good.

@antikorper99 12 лет назад

They're just training, so they don't really move at top speed very much at all, judging by the CQB training videos that I've seen. And also, I believe the group is supposed to disperse when entering the room. First guy moves along the far left or far right wall, depending on the layout of the room. Next guy moves along they opposite wall of the first guy. I'm not sure of the actual CQB tactics, but that's what I see a lot of.

@iggysface 14 лет назад

I would love to come take this course! when is the next one

@dirkaonetime 13 лет назад

hey, im in this video, lol, fckin rock on, and yes this is a airsoft training course, hosted before a national event to get us ready for the MOUT site, local N.E team GMR hosted this at the Citidel in Mass., which is and indoor airsoft field, GMR as a team is 80% current or ex military , and a few are prof. trainers for tactics, and its not a grenade at 1:46 its a thunder B and the trainers were throwing them at us to see if we could still focus while loud bangin was goin off next to us

@Ogrover08 12 лет назад

we do this in the seattle area. Tacoma Tactical (TacTac) does this. show interest and they will again

@redlingad 12 лет назад

i always been wondering the proper deployment of flashbang. what is more efficient? throw it at the same time you enter the room ( like in the sas videos) or throw it before you enter ( like in the delta videos).

@dirkaonetime 13 лет назад

The class was like $40 and was like 6 hours, and they have a couple other classes, like squad tactics, and a gunfighter course which is alot of single person shooting skills adapted over to airsoft

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

Incorrect, it was an instructor throwing a "Thunder-B" distraction device to test the students' ability under heightened stress.

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@Taskforceblack AMEN! When I used to spend time with Fairbanks SWAT working OPFOR at the Ft. Wainright MOUT course, I used to laugh at how often people didn't check their corners. They learn quickly using simunitions though. A little pain is a great detractor and instructor, especially when death is the alternative. I love watching some of these Airsoft geeks.

@dandyairsoft 13 лет назад

@valkyrie321 I just meant it in the sense that it was a device being used to distract the entry team. Hence: distraction device.

@4everUSNavy 14 лет назад

@dremelinskov it was meant to be like a stun grenade.. and yes some people do that in real steel operations.

@dirkaonetime 13 лет назад

they usually host these before national events too, to sharpen us up in the north east, and plan multi-squad movements together, bravo company here we come opp5

@TheRx7sickness 12 лет назад

I haven't seen much with SAS but I've practiced alot of CQB drills that I've seen

@jerredbrown3254 12 лет назад

Entering the room while throwing the flashbang or diversionary device is not at all uncommon. I am not entirely sure why you guys are arguing about specific units however it is not as bad as it seems. Doing this is called "chasing the bang" and can prove to be highly effective. I have been taught methods that involve chasing the bang and waiting for the detonation both have their merits. Flash bangs are not as media would make them seem and therefore are not as disorientating as they seem.

@tjdwarf 12 лет назад

depends on training but SAS way is more efficient. the surprise stun from the grenade is better used as fast as possible to get the full advantage of the grenade fractions of a second can get someone killed.

@chelloreis1 12 лет назад

I'd love to see you guys at Airsoft CQB City applying all the knowledge you guys have. Wow! would be too much, very good. Do you already think of that??

@peteypablo396 10 лет назад

That kid with the long rifle, the M16, must have been a pain all day trying to corner with that thing.

@bootsmyler97 13 лет назад

@THEQWERTY0218 you can, its called enlisting in the military

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

In response to you was I there question: Yes/Duh, I made the video, i put my name for the credit, I took all the footage. The instructors are from the Green Mountain Rangers, one of the top teams in the nation. check out their website for some more info on them: gmrangers(dot)org

@iluvmym4 11 лет назад

Nice!

@miraam1 12 лет назад

its not that the sas is used to the effects of flash bangs but becuase they use a specail glass on their masks which protects them from the effect

@ichewtoast111 14 лет назад

looks fun

@736928 12 лет назад

Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought that the last person should always "aim" at the back whenever they stack up !

@adanstunt 14 лет назад

YEah guys.. with DTS.. great!

@BobBlobOfFancyPants 13 лет назад

What is the music used in 0:00 to 0:58 or something cause it sounds so tactical!

@mehka1 12 лет назад

Pretty good for civilians. In my unit we cleaned rooms with 2 man teams and because of this sticking to our sectors was even more important, but it looked to me, that these guys took their sectors way too loosely.

@aidiemacc6360 12 лет назад

1st man is correct there actually in the room when the flashbang goes off if you want me to prove this type into RU-vid " SAS teaching cqb" then fast forward it to 1.47

@phenn777 13 лет назад

@GearHeadHeart They are using airsoft guns, it is a tactical course the military is using for battle training purposes, i dont think you would be allowed to have a strobe light on your gun in airsoft, the military uses airsoft and paintball in order to train for combat

@austinjerod4693 10 лет назад

My only thought is thatthe guy that breaches he was watching the door and not keeping security on the hallway.... do the last guy going in should tap his shoulder so he can watch the hall and also know when to go in

@dandyairsoft 13 лет назад

@valkyrie321 It was one of the instructors tossing in a distraction device.

@georgetreadwell7564 10 лет назад

Oh man these guys are pretty much Delta...looking cool without having to go to the two way shooting range

@cobaltbluea2 14 лет назад

@crazyaznpower12 While I agree, at least in response to IROPS- the desert-tiger striped team, we are preparing for Operation Pine Plains 4, which is a 24 hour event continuous event at Ft Drum- continuous means NO BREAKS, and as such we had to train as we would fight- with food water and all the ammo/gear necessary to sustain the fight for an entire day. Nothing we wore in the video was not essential. and average total loadout is about 40 lbs all inclusive.

@cobaltbluea2 14 лет назад

@xluckyxmotelx if you call making mad bills wasting your time, then yes. Several of the instructors are military trainers or law enforcement trainers themselves.

@USMC98100 11 лет назад

That was cool

@zgSH4DOW 12 лет назад

Oh yeah! Higher than they think? It's a ton more mature than they ever will be. There are so many points that effectively make any hater of airsoft an idiot.

@Kawateamman 9 лет назад

well done

@fallennate 11 лет назад

Wouldn't the room at 0:26 only require 2 shooters in the room and the other 2 in the hallway pulling rear and forward security?

@dandyairsoft 14 лет назад

@xluckyxmotelx Here in the North East, the community's focus is on making most our events and style of play more realistic. This whole ideal is summed up by Operation Pine Plains in Ft. Drum, NY where it has been molded into the most realistic and challenging game in the country. we still have run and gun days with basic game types, but we also have many objective based ops that face players to use negotiation skills, pre-planning, and squad tactics.

@WayneInteressierts22 13 лет назад

@Blackbrood401 this video shows you alot!

@kirerudk 13 лет назад

Sure it all looks good and whatever. Basic training and movement is always good. Build up a team understanding on how they should move. However, most of it doesnt apply to airsoft. In most games you dont sweep the room or corners. That just gets you shot faster. Most of these drills and tactics are for the element of surprise. In airsoft, when a camper camps. He covers that door, has the finger on the trigger.... and shoots off his 300 round hi-capa mag. Thats about 2-3 kills in a row

@aidiemacc6360 12 лет назад

true but SAS only do it with 2 men on counter terrorism situations because they only work in fire teams and if you don't know what a fire team is its a 4 man team but you should know that because you sound like you know your stuff about CQB and about other things but in other situations like urban combat yes they would need a 3 to 4 man breach.

@aucifer1970 11 лет назад

Nice video

@FallenToHome 14 лет назад

This is awesome, where did you go to do this??

@LIPPETT4EVER 14 лет назад

do u guys do this for army training or is this just for the joy of airsoft

@valkyrie321 13 лет назад

@theairsoftbeast37 1:36, second man in the door didn't check corner. First man through, dead. Just a small example. They are pretending to breach, but not tactically training. I see mistakes with slicing, peels, committal issues, etc.