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MSFS 2020 - How To Get Higher FPS + Minimal Lag - Flight Sim 2020 

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@alexpharoah
@alexpharoah 2 дня назад
Thanks for the video! I recently upgraded to a similar spec system minus the 48gb of ddr4 (I’ve got 16gb ddr5). I’ve been spending my time just messing with the settings, trying frame gen etc. I’ve found lossless scaling to do a much better job at frame gen than the native one in DX12. But I will definitely try these settings out!
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
@alexpharoah Thats Awesome ! Yeah it's really just a case of seeing what works for your system. I must say I need to try that lossless scaling out again. Everyone in the comments is mentioning it.
@bootstrapflyer
@bootstrapflyer 2 дня назад
Thanks for the informative video. My system is very aged with no immediate plans to upgrade at the moment. That being said, I recently got hold of lossscalling and what a difference that cheap piece of kit makes to FS2020, my settings have increased to high and ultra with LOD set at 200. Also regarding the Shadow Maps, I set mine to 4096 to sharpen up further the shadows in the cockpit with marginal loss of performance when using lossscalling, on my system LS increases my frames by at least 80% which is a god send for my system. Have a great day.
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
@bootstrapflyer Awesome !! Thanks for the reply, yeah let's hope MSFS2024 has some much better optimisations so we all don't have to waste half the game time getting the settings right 🤣
@nikosf3n
@nikosf3n 2 дня назад
I use lossscalling too. Have the game locked at 30fps. Using the 1660ti gpu i have managed to max most settings and still get almost double fps most of the time. This software is a game changer.
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
@nikosf3n Yeah i should try the loss scaling again, running at 30fps definitely helps with the solid frames and stutters
@bootstrapflyer
@bootstrapflyer День назад
@@Skyvation643 Loads of good info on YT that will help with the settings and just tweak them for your system, well worth the tinker for the smoother gameplay, especially in the more taxing areas, good luck!
@bootstrapflyer
@bootstrapflyer День назад
@@nikosf3n That's the way to go, locking the fps at 30. My F20200 experience has never been so good.
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 2 дня назад
For years, I played with all of these settings, and while they did buy me a few FPS, but all of them together did not really address the main problem I had, which was the game stuttering a lot. My BIG breakthrough occurred when I realized that the root cause of most of my game issues is that my RAM not servicing the CPU fast enough. I had 5200mhz ram, but one day I discovered that the RAM was only running at 4800mhz. I did not know that I had to go into the BIOS and turn on XMP and then pick an XMP profile. MY RAM also had a clock speed of CL38. I did not know the importance of that number, but the clock speed is how may times the clock has to tick to complete an operation. In other words, CL 38 means that the clock as to tick 38 times. If the RAM had been CL32, then it would take fewer cycles to complete an operation. When I enable the XMP and turned on an XMP profile, the result quite surprising. My frame rate went up a small amount, but the real benefit was that suddenly the number of stutters I was getting in busy or detailed location dropped dramatically! When the 2024 spec came out, I decided to get 64mb or RAM, but this time, I went with a 6000mhz ram with a CL30 clock speed. Once again, the improvement in FPS was small, but this time, flying even in the busiest areas became stutter free! Even when the FPS falls down in the low 30s, rather than have the jerk-jerk-jerk of the days when I was using 4800mhz RAM speed, flight remains very smooth. I won't say there is never a stutter, but I would say that it is rare to see one. My system is a 13900KF, a 4080, 6000mhz CL-30 RAM, and I run 4K. For the first time since playing flight simulators for 20 years, I can say that I am getting a truly wonderful experience. Here is my suggestion to readers. If you use the Debug FPS counter, look at the top graph. If you see an occasional single red spike, then your RAM is keeping up. If though, you see periods where there is a wide spike and you get stutter, my bet is that this is being caused by slow RAM. Next, look at your processor speed in Task Manager. Lets say it is 4800mhz. Now, look at the RAM in Task Manager. Lets say it is 3200mhz. This RAM is too slow for the speed of the processor and that is probably why you are getting stutters. Now, pull a RAM stick out and see what the RAM Speed and clock is. For example if it is 3600mhz, then the RAM is running at 3200mhz because the XMP is probably not enabled on the mother board. To check, boot to BIOS and see if "XMP Enabled" is turned on. If not, then it does not matter how fast the RAM is because it is not using an overclock profile. If it is 3200mhz CL-36 RAM, moving to a 3600mhz CL 32 RAM is probably going to make a big difference! Now besides Enabling XMP, you also have to select an overclock profile. This profile actually comes on the RAM stick and when you Enable XMP, there is likely an "Advanced" option in BIOS where you can select the overclock profile that comes on the RAM stick. This is for Intel, but AMD Stick call it something else, but for Intel, as I understand it, the XMP II profile only adjusts the clock speed. If there is an "Tweaked" profile, this one also might do some changes to some of the clock timing. This is more than I can cover here, but even if you only do the XMP II or XMP 1, the RAM will now be running at the higher speed. I know this is a long post, but I have been chasing all of these settings for years, and all of them together did not result in smooth flight. The putting in faster RAM and turning on the XMP with XMP profile was the solution to all of my problems with MSFS. It as smooth as a movie right down to 30FPS, even at LAX. I can fly literately down the streets of Manhattan in my Harrier and it is as smooth as can be. This is THE change that worked absolute wonders for me. Again, faster RAM does improve frame rate, but only a little. The real benefit of fast RAM is in the smoothness of the game. I hope this is of interest to you or to others, but looking at the top graph in the Debug FPS tool and seeing multiple red spikes ganged together in a red block is a symptom of RAM not servicing the CPU calls for data fast enough. One last point... You can go too fast on RAM for the Motherboard. I did research that suggested that even though I could buy 8000mhz RAM, I would likely not get much benefit from anything faster than 6000mhz if I was not overclocking the CPU, and 66000mhz if I was overclocking the CPU. I do not believe on overclocking the CPU because it is just something to worry about, but the XMP profiles are very safe overclocking because the MFR has put sufficent heat sink on the sticks to dissipate the slight increase in heat generated by the overclocking.
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
I am glad that worked for you !! there is for sure alot to learn about computer performance and RAM speeds ect !
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 2 дня назад
@@Skyvation643 It was an epiphany for me, and I hope you understand that my long post was not intended to be critical of your content, but rather to highlight something to everyone using MSFS, about a potential for greatly reducing stutters. I have come to believe that the fast majority of stuttering is simply caused by slow or not enough memory. If the GPU latency is much lower than the CPU latency and the Debug FPS counter is showing a lot of red multiple cycle blocks, then I would look at RAM vs Processor seed in Task Manager first.
@doltBmB
@doltBmB 2 дня назад
CL stands for Column-address-strobe Latency, not clock basically it's how long there is between a request is made and the data is stored or retrieved, in clock cycles so high frequency + low CL is faster, while low frequency + high CL is slower
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 2 дня назад
@@doltBmB Thanks for the clarification The main point was that enabling XMP and selecting an XMP profile in BIOS made a staggering improvement in 1% lows and smoothness. I can fly into busy airports and even though the FPS can fall to 30, the game remains smooth. I watch dozens of videos on NVIDA settings and none of them really made any difference other than LOD sliders and traffic, but these have more to do with CPU workload and much of that deals with calling in things from RAM, and that is when I think I was getting the stutters. MSFS is running buttery smooth for me for the first time and it was not the graphics settings that did it, it was the XMP RAM. I also don't think going to 6400mhz RAM would buy my anything unless I upgraded to the 14900KF, but I am so happy with the result now that I doubt that the extra couple of FPS would matter.
@Gryper-c3s
@Gryper-c3s День назад
I would mess up all of the above and fry my computer or be too stupid to fix it back. But I'll pay you to drop by and fix mine, lol.
@doltBmB
@doltBmB День назад
still getting 30 fps at the airport I guess that part is just cursed in msfs hopefully they will fix it in 2024
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 День назад
@doltBmB Yeah unfortunately airports are never great with FPS especially payware ones.
@sergioroleira1
@sergioroleira1 2 дня назад
i have a nvidia rtx 3060 16 gb, and I9 12400k, try this options.
@doltBmB
@doltBmB 2 дня назад
frame gen is for taking 60 fps to 120 it is not for taking 25 fps to 50
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
@doltBmB Yeah that's true hey. I must say once I get a G Sync monitor I reckon it will be the way to go. Uunfortunately it just gives me too many stutters for some reason.
@SIMRIG412
@SIMRIG412 День назад
Low fps is also due to not enough ram!
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 День назад
@SIMRIG412 Yes good Point ! I know the more Ram also helps with stutters to. I think I found Msfs to be using nearly 16gb before I upgraded.
@avmn6873
@avmn6873 2 дня назад
With DX12+ Frame gen - ON you can prob double your framerates tho
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
@avmn6873 Yeah 100% !! Unfortunately DX12 gives me stutters and I think it may be because I don't have a G Sync monitor. Hoping I can get one soon hey and try it out again because I do remember having alot more frames than my 40-60 now haha
@Gryper-c3s
@Gryper-c3s 2 дня назад
@@Skyvation643 Me too. I have a RTX2080 Super and DX12 is horrible.
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 2 дня назад
@Gryper-c3s Yeah ! I wonder if it's a lower graphics card thing. I'm not sure hey it's so system specific haha. I really hope Msfs2024 is better and we all don't have to waste our days chasing better performance.
@Gryper-c3s
@Gryper-c3s День назад
Nope. Made things worse for me. Thanks, though.
@Skyvation643
@Skyvation643 День назад
@Gryper-c3s Thats no good, definitely is a system specific. But just another one of the million things we can all try and see if it works or not 👌
@Gryper-c3s
@Gryper-c3s День назад
@@Skyvation643 I just went back and dialed everything in the sim down a notch and put antialiasing to 4x and it improved a lot. Better now. Also downloaded Bjans trees along with the new REX Atmos and it looks great now. I am getting stuttering quite a bit, but I believe this is all related to the cloud interface. - and I am not a huge fan of the cloud. I would rather have a dedicated external or otherwise hard drive and just save all the data on that.
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