Msfs2020*OpenXr ToolKit*Full guided tutorial FFR, Scaling & more! 30% more clarity & Perf. Any HMD! 

Thanks so much 🙏 glad you enjoyed it. 😉

Awesome thanks for the comment 👍

Very welcome thanks for the comment

Hey thanks for the comment glad the video helped you and yes you are right there is no perfect settings for everyone it's all a give and take so it's up to the simmer what you are willing to compromise.

Your welcome thanks for the comment .

Awesome thanks for the comment

Your welcome thank you for the comment

awesome i have also made a vr guide that may help you more the video is in the vr playlist on the main page .. Thanks for the comment

Hey Tony thanks so much for the sub 😀 I'm glad you dusted off the old g1 and brought her back to life . Im happy this helped you

@@2020fsers One year later, and my HP Reverb G1 (which had mostly sat idle due to death of elders in the family) is still the best headset I've ever had and kicking ass even harder with this tutorial. You're still earning subs off this video now. ;) Thanks much for all the fine work you've done, Sir!

@DatahawkAviation thank you 😊 🙏

@@2020fsers No, THANK YOU for all the work you've done. I'm going to look and see if you've done more current ones as well!

@DatahawkAviation oh yes i have done an ultimate vr guide

Hey thanks for the comment

Very welcome thank you for posting

Great thanks for the comment and your system specs it's always nice to see that so others can gauge their system.

Hey thank you for the comment your welcome 🙏

Your welcome my new vr guide will be out soon.

Hey thanks for the comment 😀 not sure about dcs but im.sure someone will chime in.

I've tried it and see no difference maybe with a higher res headset it makes a difference but not for me at least. I thought it could help with aliasing in the distance but I couldn't see a change . Thanks for sharing this info .

Very welcome glad it helped you 😀

Thank you after the new update I will redo the tutorial thanks for the comment 😀

Thank you 😊

hey thanks for the comment ... at the moment i dont think that you can adjust anything unless you are in vr .

Thanks for posting this info 👍

That's very good news thanks for posting

@@2020fsers No worries it really did help so why not mention it. Do you have another video that relates these settings to the settings in FS2020 (Low, Medium,High and Ultra)?

Yes if you haven't seen this one is good ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--q6ZJIUnoqg.html also check on our main page and go to the msfs2020 fixes playlist all of the fix videos are there

Thank you 😊

Hey thank for the comment . Yes this does work with quest 2 but I am not sure of the settings for the quest app but there are several people in the comments that have the quest 2 and have posted results and settings I suggest start there or shoot one of them a question . Sorry I can't be of better help. Thanks to the great community for sharing their info we can all be a little wiser 😀

Thanks im.in the process of making the new updated version and I have some new tweaks in there it should be good .

Hey thanks for the comment . Steam is used if you are using a steam headset like the valve index , pimax .

What about the Reverb G2? It is both wmr and steamvr so is it necessary to still set the steamvr resolution when launching under openxr? So many vr layers to maintain and keep track of

Ok if you have steam version of msfs and your openxr is set to steamvr in the developer options in steam then the wmr is not in play still set the wmr to 100 in case but it shouldn't affect it you only need to set steam to 100 resolution.

Hey yes that's the next video I am working on .. I don't use oculus so I can do much on that end .

Thanks for posting your results 👍

Thanks for posting your specs!

Thanks for the comment

Your welcome thanks for the comment

@@2020fsers you've mastered this, now here's one, what's the best/closest way to capture what we see through our headsets? I will be streaming VR and I hate the thought of viewers missing big chunks of what I see.. So far open VR capture on streamlabs using index 16:9 works well however, it does lose some of the full view

I'm not to sure I don't use vr to make vids and I've never recorded on it other than using the mirror but for some reason on mine the mirror is not good quality even if I change the settings in the wmr .

I thinknif you record vr viewers will always miss a little bit due to your field of view is much bigger in vr

@@2020fsers found a happy medium! Hopefully someday it'll be a possibility for viewers to see exactly what we do in the headset

Thank you 😊

No sorry I don't use dcs

Thank you 😊 I made a new video for all the new features if your interested ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-leD7pwMMFug.html

@@2020fsers Yes, shure, i wil have a look on that one to, i like the way you exsplain it, and how you make us understand this. Its pretty new for me with VR. So this save me much pain of tweaking alone. i seen many other films, that ends up in a distaster :)

Thanks I hope you like the other video

@@2020fsers i did, Thank you for this, i was realy lucky to day so found this stuf, and the colour change you showed, was incredible. stable frames at 35 even on heavy airports. So smoth, clear and wonderfull. I have aa RTX3080, but planing to upgrade to 4080TI in the summer. I just need change my budgetes a little bit. Its a insane exspencive hobby :P - glad im divorced... Other vice it would be much screaming from the wife LOL

Lol yeah i hear that 🤣 I'm happy it made a difference for you . I too think the new gpu prices are insane.

Ok make in the menu menu lol that you turn on the advanced setting or expert setting I forget what is says and that should open up the other settings for the . Thanks for the comment 👍

Yes it is still applicable in the varjo . I am putting together the new ultimate vr guide should be out in a couple days .

Are you also loaded into msfs ? If so check your modifiers in the companion app. Make sure it didn't get switched . Thanks for the comment

I have the exact same issue, I've never been able to see the menu since the original open xrkit.

@@user-zt1er1uj6ino problem resolved one day after Update 9. Not sure what I did !!

Sorry for theblate reply . The leap motion I have and I don't use it . To much of a headache it's mainly for developers. The quest 3 should have native had tracking .

I'm not sure about quest I know there may be more you need to do. You can email mat the dev of the openxr toolkit and maybe he can give you some options

I am using the g2.

Honestly, I try not to discourage anyone from trying things. Download it and try it I think it would be worth a try for you. You may like some of the other settings in there like post processing to where you can adjust a lot of your colors for individual games. But with a valve index, you're probably not going to use any of the fixed foviated rendering settings And that's where this application shines.

@@2020fsers Thanks a lot for the reply....! I like that you can disable it, so yeah, I'll give it a whirl - Thanks again! - Great turorial BTW - perfect blend of instruction withouth getting too deep in the weeds.. :)

I would say yes . I don't haveva quest but I assume it's the same .

@@2020fsers thanks, I think it must be.

Not a dumb question and the answer is no you do not.

It's not necessarily normal that your FPS drops that much. But it is normal that it draws a much bigger demand on the GP. U, because it's now gotta render your 3D space everything around you so you will see A G PU. Load increase and if your GPU isn't up to the task you will get a frame drop.

Ok the quest may need an additional code added to get openxr to recognize I'm not sure but that's what I've been told what you can do is email the developer and he should be able to direct you.

Thanks for the comment

Thanks for the reply. One other question do you need MS openxr mixed reality installed if your using steam Vr?

No you do not steam has its own openxr program running.

Ok thanks for the info unfortunately I don't think you can select a value in the toolkit.

No need to apologize .. Only for vr

No you do not leave it as steam for your openxr because that's what oculus runs on . Mixed reality in windows is only for mixed reality headsets like the hp reverb g2

Thanks for the comment

@@2020fsers Ah ok so now to figure it out how it works on oculus quest 2

Once you have the companion app downloaded it should say at the top if it's active

Thank you... Finaly I get msfs2020 in vr with 68 FPS. but my resolution is by 100% 1872x1888... how can I improve that? I've amd ryzen 9, RTX 3070TI 8gb, 16GB Internal memory.

Hey thanks for the comment I also have a pimax 8kx but unfortunately indid realize my ipd is smaller that the hmd can go so it's not as clear as it should be so I never use it but I can help you with the settings . Funny I was using the 8kx last night. Ok so here's the scoop 1st resolution any resolution I set in the pi tool and I use 1. On resolution then I also set to normal mode. If using small mode I go to 1.25 on the resolution. The box parallel projection is best for the sim.but uses more gpu or turn off and use the for hack setting in the openxr tool but it's not perfect I still think the image is better using the parallel projection.. you should not be using wmr at all with pimax. So saying that in the steam settings turn on advanced and then go down and make sure that steam is set as your openxr. If not select the button to make it the choice. Now your openxr runs through steam. Next don't touch the resolution in steam or in msfs. Also make sure any changes to the resolution in the pitool as well as for in pi tool to also restart steam. All scaling will be done in the openxrtoolkit inside the sim. For setting inthe openxrtoolkit leave on 100. If for some reason your resolution is too high the steam app will stall to enter the sim. That is a problem because you can't scale the resolution in the openxrtoolkit until in the sim so work around is turn down the resolution a lot in steam before entering vr then once in vr open the toolkit. Next sce the image down to 70 or 60% then exit vr. The go back to steam turn the resolution back to 100 reenter vr and now it should not freeze now you can adjust the scaling higher little by little exiting g vr on each change reenter and test until you get to the point of no return then scale it back again to the setting that was best and you are all set to go. Hope this helps please let me know and check-out the Facebook group

Thanks also for the sub sorry I got caught up in my response lol 😆

@@2020fsers thanks so much! How about the FOV setting? And do I run MSFS from within Steam or from Desktop (or pitools)?

Fov leave at 100. If you have the store version start msfs from desktop if steam version start in steam.

@@2020fsers excellent, thanks again. Do you have that patron thing?

Unfortunately I don't think therenisna setting to blanket the brightness setting. In the openxr toolkit you can adjust the brightness but only for supported games. Some games may need open composite to use the toolkit.

no all my settings stay when i load back in.

That's really strange so you are in the sim and you can see just fine in the headset but when you activate the tool menu you get a blue screen ? There may be an faq on the website about this not sure.

if you are using the steam version then yes steamvr but not sure if you need the oculus app running or not sorry

Without steam I have the store version

Solution: In Oculus debug tool under mobile ASW be sure to leave framerate Insurance default setting selected which is Auto. I guess I had decided to try it and had enabled framerate insurance very horrible experience I factory reset the quest trying to troubleshoot this and lost the ability to use it without being tied to Facebook.

Ok so are you using the steam version of msfs? Also are you using a g2? If so make sure you are using the wmr openxr and not steam. You can check this by going into steam menu turn on advanced options select developer and look right where it says openxr it should say wmr not steam if it says Steam change it when you open wmr for steam vr should populate a box that says fix this click that and it will change. Openxr developer you don't really need that open select latest open runtime at the top and you can select custom render scale and select 100 then close it . I find that closing the wmr for steam is best to Close each time you jump in and out of vr. This does take more time but seems to reset something . What are your system specs ?

@@2020fsers Thank you for your reply. When I Ctl-Tab in-game after changing settings, the DWM.exe process pegs the GPU to >90% so FPS gets hosed. I have a Legion Gaming Laptop with i7, RTX3060,16Gb. It's set to only use the Nvidia GPU w/latest driver. No hybrid mode. I stopped using the Steam VR because it CTDs constantly. Of all the combinations, my best results are just using WMR, no OpenXR and 70 render scaling. Might just be the best I can do with this system. I get about 25 FPS with the G2 Reverb.

Darn, well you tried . Maybe the limiting factor is that it's a laptop but i could be wrong.

@@2020fsers Actually, v1.1.3 just came out and that seems to have fixed the problem. I'm getting a solid 35 FPS now. Thanks!

Ok cool yes it just got release I still haven't downloaded yet

Yes you are correct

I also use a valve and works perfectly

Thanks for the comment what headset do you have

There is no experimental anymore .. go to the menu menu and turn on advanced settings .

The way you say this sounds like you are unable to hit the ctrl f2 when in vr ? Why can't you press the keyboard when you are in vr ? Or are you saying once in vr when you press ctrl f2 the menu doesn't open?

You don't need any apps open in vr other than the mixed reality app. I would contact them about the quest there may be something else you need to do for that headset so go to the website and send them an email they are pretty responsive.

are you getting stutters or screen tearing ? 2 different things

You need to go all the way over to the last menu, and then you can adjust the time out.

Great hey thanks for posting this I'm sure it will help out someone . 🙂

Hey! Tldr...do you Have you tried trouble shooting with the quest 2 by any chance? Do you think it will be similar results since I'm using link and not air and therfore using the oculus app? I find my vr performance really suffers anytime I inject this scaler in tandem with the mixed wr. I hVent tried the scaler by itself with the q2 but im going to try today if it will run. The oculus app does have its own run time priority setting that seems to cause issues when something else is set as the run time priority. And every time I try to use the mixed WR in conjuction with oculus and set is as priority it doesn't run right anyway.

In the menu option inside the toolkit you say you have the advanced menu turned on? That's strange

Sure as soon as it comes out. Of course I will need to do some testing .

Huh I wasn't aware of that issue send the dev a email and see what he says he gets back quickly

Ok you also need pimaxxr from guthub. I am actually editing now part 2 of the pimax series where I go over all the software and setup i known you don't want to wait so here is the link to the pimaxxr video.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z9hEx_wf-KU.html

Your pitool should also.be running the other 2 do not

If you're using the reverb G2 then turn the power off on the power unit and power it backup

@@2020fsers I'm using the HTC Vive Pro Eye headset, and figured out the Steam VR setting that was preventing MSFS from seeing the headset. I'm continuing with the video now, thanks!

Ok good 👌

Does it show active at the top of the companion app?

Ok they must be mixed reality games like msfs . Next pimax users I would contact the developer as he has some special tweaks for you as well as a code so you don't need to run steam to play msfs in vr if you have the store version.

What is vrs?

Steam vr is not used when using openxrtoolkit.

you need to open the companion application and make sure that dcs is checked in the boxes at the bottom.

The difference is the nis is a scaling tool to upscale and add sharpening the openxr developer tool does not do that it can only scale down or up the resolution.

@@2020fsers so NIS only sensefull over 100%? Less than 100% NIS means downscale? I did not get it. I play with both sliders but do not know what I am doing.

Lol it's OK so let me explain. You want msfs and openxr developer tool at 100 % full scale resolution. Then you will let the nis tool do the scaling for you but But in this scaling tool you can't go above 100% full scale resolution if you push this over 100 then you will notice the resolution scale going down on the same scale as if you go below 100. So it doesn't matter which way you go up or down either way it will down scale the resolution then add sharpening with the sharpening option. Hope that makes sense .

Ok the openxr toolkit companion app you can close and the mixed reality openxr you can close . You must be in msfs then try and open the toolkit.

@@2020fsers I’ll close windows open Xr. I have game running. Will try again thx

Make sure you didn't change your hot keys in the companion app.

@@2020fsers thx for the info, I've seen tutorials that they adjust openxr from the game home screen, i can only get openxr to show in my meta quest 3 once actual in the cockpit and its unusable as so magnified. I was going through various settings and it oculus told me that i needed to assigned steam vr as my openxr source is that right?

As far as oculus I'm not to sure as to run steamvr or oculus so I would email Matt the developer about that . His email should be on the github page or the webpage to contact him. You are right you should be able to enter the menu on the home screen.

Yes that is on the agenda I have I think 3 more videos to do and then the openxr and I'll specifically be going over vr in sim and in the toolkit and sharing all the info I have collected from people with different systems and the different options to start with on settings it should be pretty good .I hope 😆

Yes it does but contact the developer there are a couple other steps you need to take I believe.

Make sure experimental is check not sure if that needs to be done or not. If you still have the issue maybe uninstall and redownload and install. Worst case email the developer.

Is there a button in the openxr tools for windows that says fix this if so press it. What headset are you using?

@@2020fsers ok thank that fix it

The bigger number should always be on the right for the pimax 4312x5102 .

@@2020fsers i look pimax crystal with biggest number on the left. Same user, two different video. In first video biggest number onthe left, in second video (with same crystal) the biggest number is on the right

@andrealongobardi4294 not sure what to tell you I tried it myself all the way up to 8000 and still the same bigger number on right .

The only thing incan think of if they are using anamorphic scaling but I didn't think that was available on crystal.

I found it! it only appears in the headset.

Yes it does lol 😆 glad you got it

no it does not all the experimental features are now standard . here is the new video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m0E_-UesZX0.html

if your sim is on steam then you will be using the steam version of openxr so no need to use the windows version make sure to set your resolution in steam

@@2020fsers thanks, but on windows mix reality the menu does not open with F1. F2 keys . What is wrong , ...?

@@2020fsers i am using the sim from microsoft store

Ok so if in store version you don't need steam open . Make sure that the openxr developer is active by going to the app tab to make sure it's active . Then once the sim is running then ctrl +f2

Final question please, i have Oculus Quest 2. Does it work with OpenXr tool kit . . .? If not which oculus should i get to enjoy MSFS on VR? Thanks

The ffr needs to be turned on in the menu of the open xrtoolkit in vr turn on advanced settings .

Cool thanks 😊

@@2020fsers I hope I do not sound stupid, but i still can not see the advanced setting in the menu.....

It should be in the very right menu that says menu I think . And it may say expert settings or advanced settings

Hi thank you for responding. I switched to advanced settings in two different menu tabs. Unfortunately FFR is still not in the menu. Mystery.

Does your fps jump with ffr off ?

Sounds like you may have also turned on motion reprojection

Make sure that is set to off in the toolkit

Did you try and open the menu while in vr in msfs ? If that doesn't work then reach out to mat the oculus may need a tweak to get it to register.

@@2020fsers I tried there is no response. Under the troubleshooting it says if no apps display at the bottom of the companion app that you don't have any compatible apps, but I have several that should be compatible. Who is Mat?

He is the developer.

What issues are you having? And what headset ?

No it does not only openxr games. Also check the website and it will tell you what games its good for and also what games you need open composite to use the toolkit.

There isn't anymore this is an old video . Open the menu for the openxr toolkit in vr and go to the menu menu and turn on expert settings

@@2020fsers yeah, I was just looking for fixed goveated rendering and found it. I managed to reduce gpu usage by another 10% (on top of whatever open composite/bypassing steam vr was already doing. Which already felt like a 10-20% improvement). This was in dirt rally 2.0 with a Lenovo explorer wmr and rtx2070 super. So far I am super impressed with open composite and open xr toolkit. Amazing stuff. Essential for dirt rally 2.0 with its terrible optimization if not using an Oculus headset.

Inner ring is always 100% you can only change the middle and outer resolution.

Maybe something to do with the 4090 firmware idk.

Are you booted into msfs ? Before you try to enter the toolkit if not it won't work .

@@2020fsers So I figured it out it was a completely different window that needed to be opened I was able to get it to work thank you

Ok good to hear

Exit vr and re enter vr in msfs

@@2020fsers aaahhhh thanks!! I should get my VR tomorrow or Monday 😁👍

Awesome I bet you can't wait lol so now I need to ask what did you purchase ?

just a small upgrade from Rift S to Reverb G2. My Rift S is useless I always had issues with USB port connection in win 10 and everyday I had to reconnect him to my pc because "unrecognized device" BS!!! and since I get win 11 Rift S is a piece of junk and not working at all. So last time I used my VR was maybe 1 year ago. I hope now will be different with this HP.

Oh wow yes the reverb is like night and day for clarity you will love it . Make sure you are in a well lit room for decent tracking .

No you do not you can keep it closed

I also use a pimax and the same keys enter vr . If you open the companion app does it say it's activated?

@@2020fsers thanks for your reply. Yes it is Green and active. GA-1 (v1.1.0) is active

Ok so in steam turn on advanced options to go into developer tools section and make sure steam is set to openxr if it says windows openxr click the button there to change it to steam .

Oh also this may be a stupid question but are you in vr in msfs then hit control f2

@@2020fsers in the advanced option Steam VR is selected as my open XR runtime. Thing is I can’t even change it. There is no editing available for that button. I haven’t tried MSFS yet. Once I do I will see if I can get it up but may be software specific. I appreciate your responses and will let you know how it works out. Thanks again. I truly appreciate it!

Are you in the sim ? Sim need to be running .

@@2020fsers I don't have msfs..

Ok so if you open the application it will show the games that you have at the bottom that you can use this with makensure to check the box next to the game. This toolkit is only for mixed reality games and the menu is only available once the game is opened

@@2020fsers ooh I was playing ACC not sure about what other games?

Control+ tab .or The same way you enter vr so exit then re enter.

Check the video description and click on the reverb G2 picture setting video

@@2020fsers thanks!!

Your welcome